Ehhhhhhhhh..... I played it a bit again recently and the movement and camera controls are very stiff, awkward and generally unresponsive compared to most or all of the later games. That's hardly a Kingdom Hearts 2 exclusive issue, though. Most or all games made back then have these issues because game developers were still figuring these things out. I think overall the Osaka Games have much better analog movement. PS2/GameCube/Xbox games in general just don't have very good feeling movement and camera controls. Going back to KH2 after playing KH3 for so long when KH3 has overall much more fluid and responsive analog controls just makes KH2's analog controls just... not feel right.

@@boyishdude1234what? gameplay is fine it doesn’t feel stiff I don’t know what you’re talking about?

@@boyishdude1234The camera and movement is great, the only issue with the camera is that it doesn’t do a great job tracking locked on targets and there’s a certain boss with camera issues due to the arena. Though overall the movement and camera in particular is better than alot of modern games even (the camera is definitely better than the one in fromsoft games).

@@boyishdude1234 thats because you suck

I’m playing it right now at the start i preferred one because of fire change and no roll but now it’s way better

Hopefully I don’t make you feel old, but I remember Christmas Day being 4 years old playing this game and ever since then I was overwhelmingly hooked to the game adoring it in every aspect, it still is one of my favorite games and hell I think I beat it again like 5 months ago

@@CostFrost nah, my son was about 4 years old when this game released, so if anything you're just bringing back more memories. Thank you for that.

I love KH, but there's SO MANY more games that are superior to it.

@@ASTR0TALKSPHILOSOPHYHe just said his favorite in the series lol

@@ASTR0TALKSPHILOSOPHY Like what? Persona? What else?

Back when dev studios used to go above and beyond, god gaming was so damn good back then!!

It honestly didn't have to be a trilogy. The KH series could've ended at KH2 and that would've been just fine. I would even go as far as to say perfection.

@@C3IAM KH1, Chain of Memories, and KH2 is the trilogy I'm referring to. :)

@@IfYouSeekCaveman Haha! Sounds good to me!

@@IfYouSeekCaveman You forgot BBS that game was amazing. KH 3 was fine but lackluster. I’m still hopeful for 4. I have a feeling it will be better than 3

Yea man as a kid I hated this part because I spent like 4-6 hours on it not knowing where to go but once I replayed it as an adult I absolutely loved the intro. It hits way harder once roxas says “guess my summer vacation is over”.

Not going to lie, The setting of Twilight Town use to give me this craving for butter pecan ice cream. Haha!

People who complain about Roxas are idiots

​@@MrWashed_the reward of fighting someone you played as always hits different.

That’s one of my favorite parts of the series, but I can understand why some don’t like it there’s alot of cutscenes.

Critical is sooo much fun I remembering lingering will it took me so long to learn all his attack patterns

This is beyond cap critical is not easier than proud they buff your damage because of how impossible it would be to beat without the buff

@@LimitedEye most attacks that one-3 shot you on proud would do the same on critical anyway

​@@LimitedEye"impossible" Have you seen lvl 1 crit runs....

@@loogiemusmaximusoftides8540 Sure, but a lot of attacks that wouldn't one-shot in Proud CAN one-shot in Crit (damage received in both modes is the same, but you have half the HP on Crit). And yeah you may deal more damage, but just 25% more. This means both you and the enemy die quicker, but you die much quicker than the enemy. EDIT: also,since you have half HP and can go down to empty real quick real frequently, you can't use Cure as a crutch anymore. If you don't learn to block and dodge, you're not getting very far.

Those were the days right

Played it for the first time last week and I adored it~~

@@humanstuff7798 Very lucky! I have payed it in middle school with my friends

I get to finally play this with the English patched ps2 version. I have both English patched ps2 games on the Steam deck. I don't think I will ever get around to playing the third game. I watched it on KZfaq.

@@hardyjoe4278 im getting a steam deck soon and kh 2 is on the list. Should i emulate the ps2 version?

@@guutenks2498 No, play the PC version.

​@@guutenks2498 buy the game on PC and get the refixed mods

@@rigby117 does that only apply to kh2?

Omfgg i thought so too!!!! 😢😢😢😢🎉😂 thought it was just me..bbs i didnt like that much sure it was tragic but i prefer kh2..it feels WAYYYY better than bbd combat system...

The fact that people are still believing that the non numbered titles aren't important is baffling to me. Are they really KH fans if they only played the numeral titles and don't play the other titles?

Wait im confused is actual khIII not considered "true third entry"? (Guessung its a joke)

@@sollumi3014 kh2 is just leagues above all the other ones

@@qdakid7776 Is it though? It's easily the worst RPG in the series if you look at the RPG elements it offers compared to the others, and I think whether or not it has the best combat in the series is rather debatable. I've found from my own playing of these games that DDD HD (not the original 3DS version) and KH3 (even pre-ReMind) have comparable combat depth and quality in practical gameplay. I think the people who say that KH2 is the best in the series are looking only or mostly at its combat system, cherry picking its best aspects and then ignoring everything else about the game aside from its story and music. When looked at as an overall game I think its one of the most flawed games in the series; it was clearly not finished, even in the Final Mix release.

@@boyishdude1234no way you just said ddd and kh3 are better which are half assed games at best that latter game needs patches for it to be decent.

​@@moncay3238 I did in fact say that, and I'm not incorrect, unless you can make a good argument for why I'm wrong, which I highly doubt given your attitude. 2FM is incredibly overrated, and vanilla KH2 is unquestionably the most unfinished and unpolished game in the series if we don't count the original 3DS release of DDD (you can tell that it was rushed out the door, it didn't even have the boss fight with Roxas that was clearly intended to be in the game, and despite popular belief it had no post-game content to speak of, as all of its optional content could be completed before beating the final boss, including Sephiroth and the Paradox Cups). It isn't leagues above either KH3 (which didn't need patches to be decent) or the HD remake of DDD as an overall game by any means, and I say that as someone who has 100% completed 2FM on Critical Mode multiple times and completed its "Level 1" challenge more than once, as well as done the same in DDD between both of its versions and done it the most in KH3 (mostly before the DLC came out). Every single Kingdom Hearts game is mediocre, half-assed slop with lots of issues. Name one hugely positive aspect about 2FM's gameplay that _isn't_ specifically its semi-decent combat system? Even Dark Souls 3 is better in comparison, and that game is the worst entry in its respective series by far. An Action RPG with truly great gameplay has more to offer than only a decent combat system. There needs to be a good *_RPG_* there as well, not just competent action. Likewise, there needs to be good *_action_* there too, not just competent RPG elements; this was the problem with Birth by Sleep and 358, and to a much lesser extent DDD (far more so the original 3DS version). KH1/1FM, ReCoded, DDD HD and KH3 (excluding all ReMind content) are the closest the series has gotten to correctly striking that balance, and all of them have their fair share of problems. They're not masterpieces by any means. None of the Kingdom Hearts games are. Just because _you_ don't think KH3 or DDD are fun to play, that doesn't they're bad games. Quality is not a matter of opinion, and I've yet to see a single compelling argument for why KH3 and DDD HD are "horrible games" despite the fact that I have no reason to disagree with a good argument because I also think they're flawed. Granted, I've been called a "Birth by Sleep fanboy" in the past just for defending that game from criticisms I believed to either be false, poorly argued or made in bad faith, even when said defenses either came after or came with me explicitly mentioning more than once that I don't like the game very much and have no reason to protect it from any and all criticism, or even that I agree with a given conclusion about its quality and that I merely disagree with the presented argument (or lack thereof), so the possibility that you'll just accuse me of being some kind of "fanboy" for no other reason than that I disagree with you about KH3 and DDD is not lost on me. Kingdom Hearts fans, especially 2FM fans, have consistently shown me over the past roughly five years that they have very little ability to communicate with other people, to think critically or to process any kind of nuance, instead opting to go for surface level dogma, confirmation bias, groupthink and abuse of who they deem to be ideological dissidents, to the point that they'll ban people from their KZfaq comments that they've deemed to be "hugely problematic" then publicly speak about it on Twitter to shame them in the public square behind their backs. That may sound pretentious, but that's just the fact of the matter, and to be frank, I'm including you in that negative assessment. If you believe that mocking me for what you deem to be "wrongthink" is going to make me get on all fours and kiss your starfish, think again. I will not change my mind no matter what you say, not because I don't believe each of the Kingdom Hearts games have flaws, but because you simply aren't up to the task of making good arguments. Rather, you're entirely incapable of making them.

Interesting. You learn something new everyday!

That's generally true - In Critical fights just don't last as long as in proud, one way or another. That and the 3x Lucky Lucky you receive on Crit is a massive help while grinding.

I think this was an exploit. I did something like this in Port Royal, at the entrance of the cave where the final fight with Barbossa takes place. I just go back to the ship and the drive refilled itself. I think it only worked on maps, one map away from any camp where you can speak to Donald and goofy.

I have only ever seen this with Xaldin, and that Heartless in the ball room in the same world.