So you want to be a knife maker

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5 жыл бұрын

I often am asked about the business side of knife making. Here are a few quick yet very important things to thing about.
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@EkimKnives 5 жыл бұрын

Full time knife maker = Tool rich and money poor lol

@Simplelittlelife 5 жыл бұрын

You got that right buddy! 😆👍

@Veilside8090 5 жыл бұрын

A rare Ekim Knives appears on youtube?.... must be a glitch

@justinwilliams4212 4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! I’ve been lucky enough to get a bunch of commissions recently - but that cash is now earmarked for a Paragon kiln. I have to view this as a funded hobby

@micgalovic 4 жыл бұрын

Ekim is alive! Man, I love your content.

@LomoPlateAldo 4 жыл бұрын

remember Ekim Knives? ... he's back! ...in pog form!

@beastlymetaldrummer 5 жыл бұрын

The easiest way to retire early as a knife make? Retire before you start making knives!

@Simplelittlelife 5 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha! That’s exactly right! 😆👍

@jr602908 4 жыл бұрын

@@Simplelittlelife I count some of the best knifemakers in the US as friends of mine, Johnny Stout, Harvey Dean, Luke Swenson, Bill Ruple, etc, one thing they have in common is that they are retired with multiple pensions. Even Harvey Dean (Chairman of the A.B.S.) who makes knives that cost well over 10k, he's not living the high life, very salt of the earth guy. I started smithing in 2015, won Forged in Fire in 2017, featured in multiple magazines, but I'm only just now seeing a profit from my work. BUT I enjoy my office day job, healthcare is pretty nice lol.

@PNG4x4 4 жыл бұрын

That’s me... 29 years in Law Enforcement and now its time to start hammering and grinding!

@yacobshelelshaddai4543 3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@glenpaul3606 Жыл бұрын

I wish I could find a way to connect with other knife makers. I started making knives 6 months ago and have had to teach myself. Some of the you tube stuff helps, but most of these guys have top notch equipment. I can't afford or justify $2500 for a 2x72 belt sander or $1500-2000 for an oven, etc. I'm going to be 75 in a month and knife making and leather sheath making are fun new hobbies that take a lot of time. It would be nice to talk and make friends with others having similar interests. Tried to connect with a couple you tube knife makers, but they aren't interested regardless of saying they are open to talking with viewers. Likely because they are trying to run a business and don't have time to be sociable to non-customers.

@BenRowland 5 жыл бұрын

Insane coincidence. I was JUST talking about this very thing with a buddy last night. We're a couple of middle aged guys who are still trying to figure out what we want to be when we grow up, and every thing you discussed in this video was something we touched on in our chat. The thing is, my father-in-law is going to be liquidating his metal fab shop in a couple years, so I'll have access to a LOT of good gear to get a knife shop started, but I've still got to figure out if this is what I want to do for a living. I've got a couple years to figure it out, but that's not much time when it comes to putting together a not insignificant amount of capital to invest in gear all at once. I really appreciate your video, it's given me some new things to consider and a new podcast to listen to as well. Thanks!

@kmshyamsundar 7 ай бұрын

So how did your plan turn out after 4 years, i am curious to know

@sierrasix5479 3 жыл бұрын

This is fantastic information. I currently work at a maximum security prison and picked up blacksmithing and knife making as a hobby. My current job is fairly miserable and I am considering resigning and making knives full time. I really enjoyed this video. Inspiring and terrifying at the same time. Lots to consider.

@brodyromano3397 3 жыл бұрын

Just set up my makeshift knife making shop in my parents shed. Wish me luck

@RIVERAEDGE 3 жыл бұрын

*Good luck man!*

@carolandpaulm 4 жыл бұрын

I’m a knife maker on the threshold of selling my knives. You addressed a ton of my concerns. Thank you,

@Simplelittlelife 4 жыл бұрын

Right on. Glad it helped 👍

@medevack1 2 жыл бұрын

Great Video thank you for all the Info, I'm about 2 yrs from retirering from the Federal Government and I'm glad I watched your video because I want to go full time knife making soon after retirement.

@glenpaul3606 Жыл бұрын

Being retired and a new hobbyist knife maker, I think trying to turn it into a business would take the fun out of it. When you have to worry about advertising, taxes, insurance, schedules, book keeping, sales, costs, etc...that would take the fun out of it.

@dom8420 5 жыл бұрын

You should do more of these business topic vids I found them super helpful thanks🤘

@dougwatson6880 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. Not negative at all. I have been making knives for 2 years and I am taking the plunge. Quitting a full-time IT job, seeking part-time employment in community affairs, the other half of my week ( plus weekends) will be knife making. SUPER STOKED!

@Simplelittlelife 2 жыл бұрын

Right on! Thank you👍

@thesendits8750 2 жыл бұрын

I’m making my first knife at the moment and I’m so excited. I’m only 12 but my dad has taught me to use so many tools😂

@michaelcall4962 5 жыл бұрын

This goes to say for ANY maker... not just knife making. Cheers for the needed info! Time to MAKE stuff!

@aaronfrasco5797 5 жыл бұрын

100%. I am a woodworker that continually struggles with pricing products.

@neilyeag 5 жыл бұрын

Concise and spot on insight. Thanks.

@evaderknives 5 жыл бұрын

The business/marketing side is definitely my weakest point... I had a huge misconception that I get a following on KZfaq/Instagram & my knives will sell themselves... The thing i do when looking at a knife to sell, I ask myself "would I buy this knife" if the answer is no, back to the grinder... The guy that got me into knife making is the one that really got my butt in gear... I would think I had "the perfect" knife & he would tear it apart... It stung & I would make excuses, but then get to fixing everything... Thanks for all this... have a great day... take it easy...

@intothewild3349 2 жыл бұрын

Me too ... it really is discouraging when you put so much time and effort into learning a skill and then all you have to show for it is a pile of knives lol . I feel like part of the problem is how flooded the market is with sub par knives .I didnt try to sell until I was 110% confident in my work but there are ALOT and I mean alot of guys out there that go out buy a grinder and forge and think they can jump right into selling , then potential customers buy said knife from novice maker and then from that point forward won't see the point of buying a hand made knife because their mora or other walmart knife is better and they paid less .

@omarsedano4301 5 жыл бұрын

This video put it all into perspective thank you so much for the help.

@markdonovan6161 Жыл бұрын

Great post! Love it.

@connorcooper9392 5 жыл бұрын

By far my favorite channel on KZfaq. Your channel has inspired me to start making knives and taught me many things along the way. Thank you

@matthew2000tx 3 жыл бұрын

I ran a photography company for about 8 years. What you said is so true I would add quality control over prints so many potential clients just wanted a CD with photos I wouldn’t do that because of quality control my editing computer was professionally lab calibrated to the pro lab I was using so I could make measure color profiles were as close to the print as possible while editing. I had to explain to a man that Walmart doesn’t care about crop or color.

@thesuperzfamilyvlog6607 5 жыл бұрын

I started making knives for the same reason. There are so many I love, and want, and They're pretty expensive. So I started making my own, and really enjoy it. I don't sell them (I just don't think they're good enough), but I really enjoy making them.

@shlomobredstein5945 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome video. Thank you!

@ed.sol.crafts 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for video! Super helpful!

@RusticByNature 4 жыл бұрын

Great info, thanks for sharing.

@zakfinley 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you Jeremy! Most Excellent video👍

@KnippenbergKnives 2 ай бұрын

Great video with a lot of interesting insights. Thanks for Sharing!

@Simplelittlelife 2 ай бұрын

Thank you! I’m glad you’ve found it useful. Cheers👍

@richardbohlingsr3490 5 жыл бұрын

Well said and to the point. It's never as easy as you think it will be. Once, it's a business you have to run it like it's a business. It's all about finding your niche and making it profitable.

@elijahweaver2282 5 жыл бұрын

I really REALLY needed this video

@willey28 5 жыл бұрын

Great video. Thanks!

@mrbrown9659 5 жыл бұрын

Very inspiring, thank you

@lukesticklen6955 5 жыл бұрын

Good advise Jeremy. I live in Australia and have thought about doing it full time. Trouble is it costs me approximately 100 dollars per knife before I even make the thing. Steel, quality handle material, pins, abrasives, power, glue, leather for the pouch. It all adds up for what a knife that takes you a day at the least to sell it competitively at 300 dollars. You do the math it's just not worth it here. People are doing it but I don't know how. Personally I do my full time job and make knifes as a cash sale on the side. I find I get more satisfaction turning in a perfect piece and asking 350 to 400 dollars is more rewarding. Alot of money for some people but if you are willing to sit on your work till it sells the right person will eventually come along. Cheers

@X1Falcon 5 жыл бұрын

Wow. Just another awesome informative video as always. Thanks brother.

@benterbieten9540 Жыл бұрын

Very, very informative video. Lots of food for thought. Thanks.

@jeraimie 5 жыл бұрын

Great tips! A lot of the questions about knife making I had you just answered.

@nvdwalt 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome vid. Thank you

@frazerhicks9004 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for all the information good sir, as always you are very honest and informative

@flord7178 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this video and these valuable tips

@frankbusuttil2572 5 жыл бұрын

How to retire early by working your butt off. Love your work J.

@jessesanchez9529 5 жыл бұрын

Lots of points you made that I’m struggling with right now. Great vid great info.

@hardrock1826 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent advice. And I do know what you are talking about regarding the Photography business. Always enjoy and learn a lot from your videos.

@honzakmenz7064 5 жыл бұрын

This is an absolutley fabulous video, i needed these tips for a long time, thanks!

@NuManXplore 5 жыл бұрын

Good tips my friend!! Thanks for sharing.

@waderobinson9179 5 жыл бұрын

Hey! I heard you on knife talk a while ago letting Geoff win the quiz! Also, I managed to sell a knife for the second time last week for $300aud. You've been a large influence on me and my knife making. Thanks for your videos and for giving us all your knowledge.

@samdahlandsonsforge 3 ай бұрын

Great video. So many truths in that statement. I think ideally so many people need to just answer one question: are you so passionate about this that it will consume all of your extra time and money. If the answer is unsureness, then maybe make a knife or so with basic tools and see if the juice is worth the squeeze. Otherwise, you could be way more into this than you expected with not enough return. Expectation management is always where the rubber meets the road.

@morgancampbell5349 3 жыл бұрын

I feel the best thing to do if you want to start knife making as a profession with the intention to make money is start off small. Neck knives, friction folders, simple bushcraft/hunting blades, things that arent super time consuming or complex so that you can sell them for ~$60-$100 without it being unsustainable. It allows you to learn as well as getting your name and your work out there before investing large chunks of time and money into making quality chefs knives, daggers, bowies, or choppers. Marketing is also 90% of the game in terms of business. Leveraging social media as well as word of mouth through customers and even wearing your work when out and about to catch potential customer's eyes are all solid ways to market your work.

@gregoryaul2005 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jeremy I'll really think about it

@dg4e 4 жыл бұрын

Cheers for this, info and encouragement/discouragement is brilliant, thanks for passing on the wisdom 👍🏻

@Simplelittlelife 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you. 👍

@westparkguy1104 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome video! Great info and Thanks for the podcast recommendation!!

@Simplelittlelife 5 жыл бұрын

Right on. Thank you and you’re welcome 👍

@medevack1 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome Video im about to retire for the 2nd time and I cant wait to go full time knife making thank you again for the ideas!!!!!!!

@stancoironworks 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome advice! I have been a pro photog since 2010 and started knives about 2 years ago. spot on!

@LifeinFarmland 5 жыл бұрын

Great video and topic!

@JoshuaBernhart 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so mich for the helpfull video, i'm a student right now and start making knives as a side hustle. Love your content 👍🏼

@scotmetcalf2745 5 жыл бұрын

I know allot of people that have been fantastic at a particular hobby and after making it a business lost interest. I’m a Big fan of yours and really respect you honesty instead of pumping BS out there. Some day hope I can be able to purchase one of your masterpieces.

@axelalfredsson4219 5 жыл бұрын

Great tips Jeremy. Keep up the good work!

@TheSpyker666 Жыл бұрын

I'm a bit late to the party. I started as a full time knife maker after losing my job. I am a creative and love working with my hands. It's all I know really. I am a goldsmith, so the transition to knife making was quite easy for me. Nevertheless, trying to sell knives at a good price is always a problem. It was a problem in the jewellery industry too for me. Your video helped me out a lot. Thank you for that. I think marketing myself or my business is the way to go.

@Simplelittlelife Жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing your journey with me. Every man’s time on earth is limited. We do right to appreciate our own worth and price the value of work we create accordingly. I with you much success my friend. 👍

@mrtank1967 5 жыл бұрын

Good advice thank you.

@jamescurtis9915 4 жыл бұрын

Good Video. You are on point, I totally agree.

@Simplelittlelife 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much.

@sagebrushhillbilly4655 6 ай бұрын

You really give straightforward outstanding information. I appreciate your honesty and the effort you put I to your content. Thank you!

@backyardblades1010 5 жыл бұрын

I liked that I started knife making cause I love knives I wanting certain knives and can always afford them so just start making them. And it’s been such a fun hobby learning and creating something. And having a badass knife at the end.

@anthonymorle5944 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for taking the time to make this video, it help me a lot.

@Simplelittlelife 4 жыл бұрын

Right on, that’s great to hear. Thank you. 👍

@jurrian644 5 ай бұрын

Tknx Jeremy! Great video and all so true. Love your videos!

@Simplelittlelife 5 ай бұрын

Thank you so much! I really appreciate that. Cheers 👍

@dobbin0 5 жыл бұрын

No negative remarks at all I think this is a very frank and honest look into what goes into following a passion

@kkkastro123 Жыл бұрын

I love your advice...word of mouth is more than enough for me. I grind one day a week due to full time job. Also don't be afraid to turn people away if your schedule is busy unless they're willing to wait.

@ryanpearson3337 5 жыл бұрын

Great video 👌. As always allot of useful information!

@abdrazak6963 4 жыл бұрын

Very good advice and great tips. Really appreciate you making this video.

@Simplelittlelife 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much.

@bensondrums 3 жыл бұрын

great video, love your channel!

@trainwon5699 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome thanks

@heyimamaker 4 жыл бұрын

A lot of this is great advice for any self-employed entrepreneur.

@jamesbarisitz4794 5 жыл бұрын

Great information here Jeremy. 👍

@canadawoodcraft9722 2 жыл бұрын

Love your photography bit!! Coming from a full time photographer who just started grinding.

@MrSoloun 5 жыл бұрын

Good vid and great advice as always.

@leppicknives9830 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video, just quit my dayjob (14 years at same job) and started my own business. My plan is to do same shit that i used to do with my own company for 75 % of time and 25% new things (knife making and photography). Not sure how its going to work but i felt that i needed to do something different with my life. Good advices in this video, Knife talk rocks. Keimo from Finland

@SmossyYT 2 жыл бұрын

Literally a perfect video.

@mattwyeth3156 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome content thanks

@alwayshungry5371 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this. I feel like a padawan in training and you're the jedi. Hope to show you my handmade knife one day. Keep it up!

@lynchburgsky3025 3 жыл бұрын

thanks a lot for this tips.just found this video ,cheers

@futurefunds9353 4 жыл бұрын

great video... thx

@michailatanasius 2 жыл бұрын

Very useful and nice video, thank you for that! Everything is said very true and correct! Everyone to think and make the right decision for themselves! Thank you that there are people like you who "OPEN THE EYES" of other people thanks to your personal experience! Including for me! thank you💯👍

@randomamerican471 Жыл бұрын

I'm just getting started and have done a couple knives. The one I'm on now has taken a year on and off. It's for me and I'm in no rush obviously. I honestly didn't have the tools/supplies to do what I wanted to when I started this knife. I'm a perfectionist and maybe I'm too afraid to screw things up while learning, hehe. Right now I'm practicing spline file work on scrap. But I'm not confident enough to do the blade I'm working on yet. Filming it just seems like it would add a lot of time and effort. But what you are saying makes sense. And I appreciate the effort you put into this video. Merry Christmas to you and yours!

@bmw2002usa 5 жыл бұрын

Very nice vídeo. Thank you for your sharing

@adrianhernandez974 3 жыл бұрын

Que buen video amigo, no lo había visto pero tus consejos se me hacen muy atinados y muy útiles. Gracias !!! Un abrazo desde Ecatepec, México 🇲🇽

@houseknives5737 5 жыл бұрын

Just what I needed to hear..been doing this for 18 years an I really under sell myself

@wmcutlery54 Жыл бұрын

Love the knife you made👍

@Simplelittlelife Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@sttonep242 2 жыл бұрын

Great video! Something important I would like to add to this: Just because you like doing something, doesn't mean you gonna like it as a job. It's good to remember that hobbies are mainly done for your own enjoyment and you do it for YOURSELF. But when you turn your hobby into a full time job, a lot more responsibility and time schedules are introduced, meaning now you do it for OTHERS. There's a risk that will kill your original passion.

@dougwatson6880 2 жыл бұрын

I think that is a great point. One that I have considered for myself. Personally, I am up for it. But I get what you are saying. We all need to give that a thought before making life changes.

@kaskristensen 5 жыл бұрын

That was A great video 🙏🏻 Thanks for sharing J! #knifemaker

@PNG4x4 4 жыл бұрын

Great information, thank you. Just retired and no have the freedom to pursue my dream of being a full time knife maker, an building on my shop right now. The business part is the most intimidating of the process, hell, I don’t even have a PayPal account.

@Simplelittlelife 4 жыл бұрын

Right on. I hope you have a blast and find great success in it 👍

@londiniumarmoury7037 5 жыл бұрын

As a new Bladesmith living in London I just want to say, here in the UK the government and society as a whole looks down on knife makers. I have had many many people say to me after finding out I make blades. "So what if criminals stab people with your knives does that bother you? I wish I lived in America.

@ats440you 2 жыл бұрын

I guess some Brits may look down on Nike because the company makes running shoes that are popular with some purse snatchers. 😂

@str8jenn.nochaser 2 жыл бұрын

Keep doing bro.. move across the pond of anything

@KKirmaci 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for making this video. You have encouraged me to pursue my passion :)

@Simplelittlelife 4 жыл бұрын

Right on! 👍

@griffithshandmade-knives 5 жыл бұрын

On your journey of becoming a knife maker, my advice is simple and an old adage, ‘Don’t give up your day job (just yet lol)!’ KZfaq and Instagram have inspired an exponential rise in ‘New Knife-makers,’ in the last ten years, myself included. I am very proud of the community, the way it supports makers, the free sharing of information within it and how it inspires people to make their ‘first knives,’ but it does romanticize the prospect of, ‘this is what I am going to do now for the rest of my life!’ Fact is, this may or may not happen for you, and it’s best not to put that kind of pressure on yourself, enjoy the journey of learning to make knives, enjoy the different aspects, both those that reward and frustrate you, it’s challenging in a good way. So if after all that, during your journey, you are lucky enough to find a customer base and sell your knives, well that’s gravy. Keep yourself passionate about it and you’ll always love it. Turn it into a 9-5 grind (pun intended) before you are ready and you may start to hate it.

@glenpaul3606 Жыл бұрын

Good advice

@jaspertipper9649 5 жыл бұрын

I’m 12 I could work 12 hours on a knife a sell it for $90 and be happy with that “profit” Btw the steel cost $40 aus.

@e.t.preppin7084 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jeremy, very informative for myself who as a lifelong wood worker have found a passion in knife making and am considering making this a career when my skills warrant. I’ve had my own business most of my life but am coming to a point where I wanna work from a shop at home. I’m tired of traveling daily,setting up shop on site and then having to pack it up every day and go home. I could dedicate much more time working at my home shop. Thanks so much for hitting on the basics of these necessary topics to consider the change in careers. Off topic. What motor did you switch to for your buffing wheel. Thanks

@samuelswihart4285 5 жыл бұрын

I started a business with my bestfriend and I have to agree with you Jeremy, the actual business end of things is a necessary evil. Bookkeeping sucks but we've got to do it. Taxes suck. Insurance is a pain at times but I'm glad to do it all for the life we want to live.

@jjppres 5 жыл бұрын

Great video. Truth is tough to hear sometimes but you told it. I see on social media how all these new young people are going to become full time knifemakers. Then they post pictures of thier knives and I think "Oh man hope you didn't quit your job yet". Your right it has to be a terribly hard business. Especially at this point in time with a the hupla and fanfair toward making knives. It is a totally saturated market. Hell, everyone is doing it. I find it kind of neat that you and I got into it for the exact same reasons. I have been collecting knives since I was a kid. I have boxes and bags of knives. I wanted to make some of my own. Totally a hobby for me. I own my own business and am 2 years from retirement. Last thing in the world I want to do is start another business. I know better. Been doing it 25 years. I enjoy the hobby. I'm a little obcessed with it to be honest. I do sell a few knives when I'm asked or when I just have to many. I don't push them though. I don't market them at all. I enjoy it just the way it is. If I were 30 years younger, maybe but for now I'll just keep my hobby that I love and sell a few here and there.

@ashtonfoy5450 2 жыл бұрын

Great video dude

@BiP00 4 жыл бұрын

So I stumbled on your channel because of the Makita lc1230 review video, and sai to myself, "this dude looks neat, let's check what else he has on his channel", man I came looking for copper and found gold hahahaha. I'm starting on woodworking right now, I think I'm lucky because I found something that I love with all of my heart, and really makes me feel proud. Also my learning skills are pretty good, so I'm advancing really fast on this and decided to make it my fulltime job(have another one to be able to pay the bills while I get a steady income). Anyway, I really think your approach on this applies to literally anything one wants to do. As a side note, the first jobs that I have made, have been mostly for familly, so I decided than I wouldn't charge them, I think that I rather give something away and be patient, than selling my stuff cheap and spoil the clients. A good idea as well, might be to create different companies, like one for cheap stuff that give you a steady and fast income, and the one that goes along your current skills, and one to make and sell your masterpieces, I know is a pain to manage all that, but always remember that some people are willing to pay millions on useless stuff, why not my stuff? Thanks for the video and the job, I'm glad to know that there is people out there that has got a grasp on what life is really about. Hope the best for you and your familly, I'll be seeing you on your next videos!

@Simplelittlelife 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! I appreciate your comment. I wish you much enjoyment and great success with your new future endeavours 👍

@dynabob369 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks bro!

@Simplelittlelife 4 жыл бұрын

👍

@Keith_the_knife_freak 5 жыл бұрын

I love making knives.. but only as a hobby.. 👍👍👍👍

@simonhopkins3867 5 жыл бұрын

Great points mate. I never went full time in my hobby because I enjoy it too much. Getting up knowing I've got to produce X by 3pm so I can post it. That's not enjoyable.

@stevec1586 4 жыл бұрын

How about a video on all the different attachments for your 2 x 72 belt grinder? I'm gathering parts to build one and would love to see the options.

@simonbragg5888 2 жыл бұрын

Whether you are selling knives, decorating services, artwork, woodwork or otherwise, the selling price should reflect the end product. So when it comes to knives, if you have a good product, price it accordingly. For some knife makers it may take 20 hours to produce a functional piece of junk, but for others that 20 hours may produce a tool that is a thing of beauty that will last a lifetime. Ultimately the knife buying public will determine what they wish to spend their money on. 😉

@elijahweaver2282 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you