So you want to start tarp camping - Watch this first

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Kane Does Outdoors

Kane Does Outdoors

2 жыл бұрын

After 15 years of using tarps for ultralight backpacking, I've learned a few things the hard way. These aren't deal breakers for me, but things to keep in mind if you are thinking about using a tarp on your next trip.
Some of my favourite gear:
Durston X-mid 1P Solid tent (FLY ONLY AS A TARP!) durstongear.com/products/x-mi...
Thermarest Vesper -6C/20F quilt geni.us/qczmi
Thermarest NeoAir XLite NXT MAX mattress geni.us/vOvE90S
La Spotiva TX3 approach shoes geni.us/6zX5r
Fenix HM50R headlamp geni.us/gKkl6c
Check out my 10 reasons for using a tarp for ultralight backpacking:
• 10 Reasons to use a Ta...
Check out my first impressions of the Thermarest Parsec 20ºF sleeping bag:
• Thermarest Parsec 20F ...
My recent traverse of the front range in the Canadian Rocky Mountains in mixed conditions:
• Camping in Winter Cond...
Check out my sub 20 pound late season/early winter ultralight gear list:
• Early Winter Ultraligh...
Check out my cold wet weather backpacking footwear and boot system:
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@KaneDoesOutdoors
@KaneDoesOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the great discussion! If you found the video useful consider giving it a thumbs up or check out my latest trip video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hM6Xd9WG0N_Xn58.html
@HobbiesHobo
@HobbiesHobo 12 күн бұрын
I started out with tarps decades ago, then went to tents, then a hammock, now I'm back to tarps. I like my 10x10 heavy duty. Almost exclusively use ridgeline set ups. Only because I carry a rifle or bow, so no hiking sticks for me. Thanks for sharing. Mike.
@neemancallender9092
@neemancallender9092 Жыл бұрын
For years I used a US army surplus poncho It was an excellent tarp and dirt cheap and fairly lightweight Used a groundsheet and ensolite pad Used an army surplus blanket instead of a sleeping bad Worked just fine This was before they invented the concept of ultralight
@RevolverRabbit
@RevolverRabbit Жыл бұрын
Before camping cost a fortune.
@michaellorenzen8200
@michaellorenzen8200 6 ай бұрын
​@@RevolverRabbitbefore camping "hipsters" and Dyneema
@mhmpotatoes5373
@mhmpotatoes5373 2 ай бұрын
​@@RevolverRabbit bro you can still do this same stuff. camping isnt more expensive, theres just more high end gear
@RevolverRabbit
@RevolverRabbit 2 ай бұрын
@@mhmpotatoes5373 oh i do, ive been camping at least once a month my whole life since birth. I just watch shii like this for fun.
@thomasferris3750
@thomasferris3750 Жыл бұрын
A bigger tarp allowes for more stable structures, eliminating wind concerns, temp concerns, and overall is a more versatile tool for ur bag even when considering weight, Papa Hiker has some awesome designs for almost any situation
@MrScreaney
@MrScreaney 11 ай бұрын
Agreed. Papa Hiker's videos on the DD10x10 and the seemingly limitless configurations are what inspired me to convert to being only a tarper. I recommend those interested also to check out Papa's designs.
@svanteuller7928
@svanteuller7928 15 күн бұрын
Can not agree more.
@jeffreyking3807
@jeffreyking3807 6 ай бұрын
Good solid honest pro tips right there. Great job .
@dobrofool
@dobrofool Жыл бұрын
Just stumbled on your channel with this video. I’ve been camping out in my backyard for a solid year now with just tarp tents. I started with utility tarps last Feb. End of summer I picked up a 10x12 Red Camp lightweight tarp. But I’m still fairly partial to a standard 1000D utility tarp.. they are STRONG and impervious to all weather conditions! I use tarp clips for improved stake down strength. My go to pitches are a quick setup Holden open front with a walking pole, but my favorite is the hexamid A-frame based on Papahiker’s design. I always put a 5x7 standard 1000D dropcloth down. As far as heavy wind, heavy rains, and considerable snow.. I have modified Papahikers design by wrapping guylines around the top of each walking pole at the end of the tent, and tying them off to the same stakes for the door/end flaps. Then I add an inner ridgeline between the two walking poles using a bowlne to a truckers hitch nice and firm… With this set up tension from each pole is going down directly to a stake in the ground, but then tension is also being pulled in the opposite direction with the ridge line. Those poles aren’t going anywhere. I’ve been in super heavy winds, super heavy rains, and I can tell you they go nowhere. PlusI gain the added advantage of place to hang a light, etc. The interiorheight of the tent is the typical 54 inches of a full open Walking-pole. As for bugs, my 5 x 7 ground tarp is pre-treated with permethrin during the warm months. This year, I’m planning to either make my own, or purchase an enclosed bug net that’ll fit inside the tent. I really didn’t have problems with the flying insects last summer, but once I get out into the woods, I know that’s gonna be an issue. I’ve been practicing for a year out in my backyard to get down all the nuances, learning batoning and fire starting, etc. all the good stuff. I have my cooking systems down with alcohol/gas/open fire options. Next on my list is learning to use a compass and reading topographical maps. I can’t wait to get out there this year and do some real camping with my tarp. I love the ease, simplicity, and flexibility gained with tarp pitches, but I feel I want that little extra security against snakes and things by adding a closed-in net. Plus, I think it will help with the condensation as now it will be a form of a double wall system! Going to sub your channel! Edit: And oh yeah.. sleep system dialed in too. In fact, I sleep on it in the house on a reg basis so I’m real used to it even more! Lol
@KaneDoesOutdoors
@KaneDoesOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Practicing is definitely important - not enough people do it. I think your ready - get out there!
@outdoorslifesurvivecraft5078
@outdoorslifesurvivecraft5078 9 ай бұрын
Best tarp I have found is the DD Tarp 3mx3m. It works great in all weather. My favorite setup is the plow point, but you can set this thing up all kinds of ways. As for bugs, I just throw a mosquito net over it. You still get some bugs, but it's not to bad. You didn't mention bigger animals. Raccoons, possums, porcupines, mice, snakes, I've even had coyote up under my tarp with me. Winter tarp camping is the best!! I love camping in the winter, it is so peaceful!!
@KaneDoesOutdoors
@KaneDoesOutdoors 9 ай бұрын
For winter I normally go with pyramid variations. Often I’ll leave it open but having the option to lock everything down is nice.
@natscat4752
@natscat4752 5 ай бұрын
A coyote!!! 😮
@outdoorslifesurvivecraft5078
@outdoorslifesurvivecraft5078 5 ай бұрын
@@KaneDoesOutdoorsYeah, the plow point has gotten me a couple times. The wind will change and then I have to scramble to save myself.
@desperadodeluxe2292
@desperadodeluxe2292 10 ай бұрын
I just ordered a floorless bug net. Also got one of those cheapo arctersomething rather reflecto tarp. Cardboard is great. It absorbs moisture instead of collecting up on it.
@rajibjoshi9647
@rajibjoshi9647 10 ай бұрын
takes time to learn...looking back if I had to choose again my tarp would be 8' × 8' canvas ( cloth with wax) and maybe 2nd one ( 6' × 6' ) as extra for ground I really like the modified 'A' frame type which looks like 'leen to' with slight overhang on top
@lamarwilliams185
@lamarwilliams185 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your time putting up this video. I did know about using a tarp. It is nice to hear from someone with experience!!!
@meYogii_
@meYogii_ Жыл бұрын
You can put a smaller tarp on the ground under the hanging tarp to protect your gear, you can hang the bag in a tree. To prevent the wind from catching the tarp you can look on youtube to "build" a tent.
@denisestarr2314
@denisestarr2314 9 ай бұрын
I have always tent camped . I'm trying tarp , been doing daycamps with hammock and tarp . Useing a 10x10 , I think is a perfect size , Haveing fun .
@nedanother9382
@nedanother9382 Жыл бұрын
good stuff, thanks
@LampWaters
@LampWaters Жыл бұрын
Beautiful countryside
@crispinleslie
@crispinleslie Жыл бұрын
Tarp and hammock is a great combination- nice high tarp for entry, bug net on the hammock…hang well off the ground in the shelter of tarp. It’s my favourite.
@KaneDoesOutdoors
@KaneDoesOutdoors Жыл бұрын
I have a Warbonnet Blackbird XLC. Best setup for trips in the northeast with high humidity in the summer, bugs, at impacted sites. My go to for the Adirondacks.
@corleyoutdoors2887
@corleyoutdoors2887 2 жыл бұрын
Informative and beneficial video
@AndreFavron
@AndreFavron 3 ай бұрын
I have a "storm" tarp (10X16 CLEAR/see-through) that I love to use when the weather is bad OVER my regular tarp (5X7 camo/mylar) that I use to sleep under. I set it up high so that I can walk under it and have my table and chair protected from the rain while I am awake during a storm.
@berniebower7891
@berniebower7891 3 ай бұрын
I’m old. I like a 10x10 tarp pitched as high as weather permits and being able to get out of bed at 2:00 and relieve myself. I like to set up off the beaten path leaving no trace except for perhaps a cat hole, under my tarp!
@outdoorsandthings2521
@outdoorsandthings2521 2 жыл бұрын
You can never go wrong with a tarp man
@KaneDoesOutdoors
@KaneDoesOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
What’s your setup?
@outdoorsandthings2521
@outdoorsandthings2521 2 жыл бұрын
@@KaneDoesOutdoors I'm going out the door right now to shoot a video so hopefully something different lol but I usually use a hot tent all year round with a tarp over it or just a tarp and bug net
@user-cp1kk1rv4h
@user-cp1kk1rv4h 9 ай бұрын
I feel I found tarps to keep our water far better than a tent. Even the $300+ ones would leak. Think if you're tent camping expect wet and colder conditions. As you mentioned, raising and lowering the tarp may be your best bet. Or build a shelter and wrap the tarp around it.
@Gamerhog2022
@Gamerhog2022 2 жыл бұрын
3m*3m tarp and a bugnet for the South Texas creepy crawlers. UL80 with 2 sleep bag liners for my summer setup. You can catch me with my tarp or tipi tent.
@KaneDoesOutdoors
@KaneDoesOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
What kind of bug net are you using?
@Gamerhog2022
@Gamerhog2022 2 жыл бұрын
The tipi meesh tent that came with my tipi tent. I don't really do different setups mainly plow or A frame
@JamesPliny
@JamesPliny 9 ай бұрын
I have used tarps extensively in the Pacific Northwest where it rains occasionally. The arrangement I now use is 9' x 9' Rei cantilevered sil nyon tarp that weighs just 1.5 pounds. Mosquitoes are sometimes a problem when I camp but I am blessed somehow. Mosquitos don't bite me very often. They do buzz in my ears at night, just to irritate me. It is roomy, even when lowered down, and my friends all want to join me for dinner when it rains. There is easily room for 4 people sitting.
@KaneDoesOutdoors
@KaneDoesOutdoors 9 ай бұрын
Funny how most people ask about how tarps handle rain - generally better than a tent.
@daltonfury_
@daltonfury_ Жыл бұрын
like the vids!!! i'm new to tarps. removed all the line locks and attached directly to the loops. i felt like this would give me more flexibility with the guy lines. I would like to see your guy line setup, knots used, additional cordage and lengths of cordage you take with you to alternate pitches etc... again thanks for the vids I really enjoy them.
@KaneDoesOutdoors
@KaneDoesOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! Honestly I flip back and forth on whether I like linelocks or not. I've added them to my Oware mid for a very specific winter application. They make adjustments really quick. That being said I use a trucker's hitch pretty often also, along with a few other setups. I'll see what kind of video I can put together on the topic. Kane
@JamiedoesWildBikepacking
@JamiedoesWildBikepacking 2 жыл бұрын
Hey mate, great vid. I love to tarp camp, summer, winter all good. I always sleep better than in a tent and feel closer to my surroundings. I use a citronella candle to keep bugs at bay, with additional bug spray on my skin. If it’s real bag I use a head net also. ATB mate. Subbed 👍🏕
@KaneDoesOutdoors
@KaneDoesOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I hadn't thought about a candle before!
@JamiedoesWildBikepacking
@JamiedoesWildBikepacking Жыл бұрын
@@KaneDoesOutdoors Sometimes I make a beer can candle, keep the bugs away and the candle burn longer
@karlk9316
@karlk9316 7 ай бұрын
Ray Jardine and his wife Jenny address each of these challenges in their book Trail Life and prior books.
@KaneDoesOutdoors
@KaneDoesOutdoors 7 ай бұрын
Yes I have several of his books and have made a few of his tarp and quilt kits.
@LampWaters
@LampWaters Жыл бұрын
We go mountain biking and I'd love to take my son on am over night trip.
@Mike-vd2qt
@Mike-vd2qt 2 ай бұрын
SoCal desert and tarantula migration, last time I used a tarp.
@freeze1975
@freeze1975 Жыл бұрын
Hi man! I want to start sleeping under a tarp but am wondering how to protect my down sleeping bag from condensation, or if it is better to have a synthetic sleeping bag... or a sleeping bag cover. Thank you 😊
@KaneDoesOutdoors
@KaneDoesOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Do you mean condensation or rain/splatter coming in? If there’s any condensation or dew, it accumulates on the tarp, not your bag. Tarps are 100% the best way to reduce condensation because of all the airflow. If you do get condensation using a tarp it would only be worse with a more enclosed shelter. The only time I’ve had to deal with condensation on my sleeping bag was when I experimented with lightweight breathable covers/bivies. They would trap just enough air to create a warm/cold surface and trigger an accumulation of moisture on the inside of the cover. I’m not a fan of bivy bags at all, except for a mesh bug bivy. For rain coming in sideways when you camp in exposed/windy areas, a fully enclosed tarp or a mid is probably the way to go (x-mid, Yama Cirriform or any MLD or similar pyramid). Flat tarps are best in fairly protected areas. Regardless, all my sleeping bags are down now. The hydrophobic down treatments and dwr shells are amazing and handle a few slashes pretty well. Kane
@svanteuller7928
@svanteuller7928 15 күн бұрын
You also have to consider your own hight. A 10 x 10 feet or 3 x 3 m gives you very few set up possibilies when you like me is 2 m unless you prefer to get wet in rain and wind. I need at least 12 x 12 feet or 3.5 x 3.5 m but better is 13 x 13 feet or 4 x4 m or 10 x 13 feet or 3 x 4 m if I don't want to do a lean to or A frame. I think focusing on weight is to lose sight of useability.
@ahilbilyredneksopinion
@ahilbilyredneksopinion Жыл бұрын
Ima hammock camper,so essentially ima tarp camper as well,i just stay off the ground and i just wanted ta tell u injoyed yer vid.good job.but ill stay suspended above the ground under my tarp.....😊
@jackbusiere5286
@jackbusiere5286 Жыл бұрын
I wish I knew this now because I actually got stranded in the dix mountain wilderness right in the Adirondacks for a whole night and day and simply survived the night by napping on rocks and logs. I couldn't nap longer than a half hour or you could tell the very early stages of hypothermia were starting to begin so I just kept hiking the whole night down elevation to stay warm until I think it was like 4 AM I just said fuck it and started a big bonfire to rest comfortably and dry off. I bring a tarp in my bag now.
@dylanagli1577
@dylanagli1577 Жыл бұрын
I had a couple questions for ya, do you use a bivy or ground sheet? I am concerned about splash back getting my bag wet. What do you prefer?
@KaneDoesOutdoors
@KaneDoesOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Hi Dylan, I use either a tyvek groundsheet or a mesh top / silnylon bottom bug bivy. A full waterproof bivy would pretty much negate the advantages of tarp camping (weight, moisture management etc). I’ve tried a waterproof bottom - breathable top bivy and even that accumulated a lot of condensation. The top material was similar to what they make down jackets out of, but it was enough for the dew point to be in my sleep system - not good! For splashing I pin the edges of the tarp to the ground in heavy rain, and pick where I camp carefully. If you’re on compacted hard ground, it won’t be fun. If you’re on soft ground with lots of forest debris it’s not a problem. A tarp with a long ridgeline helps a lot as well. 11 ft is my preference.
@rockytopwrangler2069
@rockytopwrangler2069 9 ай бұрын
.. Good reason for the 3x4 mm tarps for use ,, many set-ups to fold 25% of tarp folded inside for ground cloth .. lots of video's online to view the how to's ..
@LampWaters
@LampWaters Жыл бұрын
I'd be interested in family tarp camping videos
@KaneDoesOutdoors
@KaneDoesOutdoors Жыл бұрын
When I'm out with my boys it's just car camping right now so we use a big 6 person tent.
@donnydread7631
@donnydread7631 2 жыл бұрын
🙏🏻 🙏🏻 🙏🏻
@bonpecheur4565
@bonpecheur4565 2 жыл бұрын
Malgré que je possède une demi douzaine de tarp je ne les ai jamais utilisées à ce jour pour dormir mais plutôt comme protection contre la pluie. J'aimerais bien m'essayer à l'automne et tes conseils sont très intéressants . Tu n'apportes pas un bivy pour ton sac de couchage ? Ça garde trop l'humidité probablement. Merci pour la vidéo
@KaneDoesOutdoors
@KaneDoesOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
J’ai déjà utilisé un bivy en toile nylon tres respirant mais meme avec ca j’ai eu de la condensation… Maintenant j’ai un bivy nylon-silicone avec une toile moustiquaire. J’utilise ca depuis dix ans sans probleme!
@davidjpeacock
@davidjpeacock 3 ай бұрын
Hey there great video thanks. 😊 Looking to get my first tarp for camping and am split on size. I'm thinking 10x10 for solo adventuring. Square seems to be best for configuration variability. Reasonable to you?
@KaneDoesOutdoors
@KaneDoesOutdoors 3 ай бұрын
10x10 is the most versatile for a variety of pitches. It’s what I’m using in this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nrqVkr1j0drWdp8.html The downside is that it catches a lot of wind in an A frame pitch, which is what I use 95% of the time. For that 8X10 is probably better if you expect to be using the same set up all the time.
@davidjpeacock
@davidjpeacock 3 ай бұрын
@@KaneDoesOutdoors Nice! Wasn't expecting a reply within a week on a year old video, let alone within 15 minutes! Awesome. Thank you! Love your channel.
@Doesch
@Doesch Жыл бұрын
I like tarps! Still not having a hang of setting it up quickly and efficiently so it doesn't fly away in a heavy weather situation like rain and stormy wind. Also i dont like it when mist comes around.. it makes for a wet cold expertas everything both inside and outside gets wet in a tarp with mist! The mist just goes everywhere even if I'd close off the ends of the tarp. Another thing is.. sagging of the ridge line. Oh well i guess i need to practice in some stable sunny conditions!
@KaneDoesOutdoors
@KaneDoesOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Is it your cord that is stretching and causing the ridgeline to sag?? I’ve never had that problem…
@LampWaters
@LampWaters Жыл бұрын
Want to do this but we moved and there's so many snakes and ants everywhere.
@FgtRtd
@FgtRtd 2 жыл бұрын
Oh wow I've spent my whole life in the adirondacks! From Saratoga myself
@KaneDoesOutdoors
@KaneDoesOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
I was originally from Montreal so the High Peaks were less than two hours away. In western Canada now - different scale of mountains! That being said the Adirondacks can be pretty brutal. I’ve always found my daily mileage to be lower out east compared to out west. Also can be challenging to find spots to camp since to forest is so dense.
@FgtRtd
@FgtRtd 2 жыл бұрын
@@KaneDoesOutdoors I think it's mostly the lack of switchbacks here and the need to just trudge through the bush instead of neat trails like out west or even on the AT lol it is beautiful though out here when you're not being devoured by black flies
@KaneDoesOutdoors
@KaneDoesOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
@@FgtRtd Yup, all straight up and down - while stepping from rock to rock or pulling roots. One of my favorites is the last section of Dix Mtn - that's a rough climb. Lost count of how many times I've done that trail.
@turtlewolfpack6061
@turtlewolfpack6061 Жыл бұрын
The biggest tarp I use is my old DD Hammocks 3x3m tarp and usually I pitch it in tent configuration. Haven't used it much in the last couple years but still love it. Definitely wouldn't go larger!
@KaneDoesOutdoors
@KaneDoesOutdoors Жыл бұрын
3x3 is a versatile tarp!
@stuartsteele9984
@stuartsteele9984 Жыл бұрын
You have bear spray, good. However, animals have exceptional adrenalin. A bear could be on you in a matter of seconds. You need to access it far swifter than where you presently store it. I keep mine on my belt horizontally positioned in a mesh sack with cord lock lightly held in place for swift removal. You might want to reconsider the location and speed of access of your bear spray as well.
@cameronchicken8439
@cameronchicken8439 Жыл бұрын
i have a really nice three bellied three ft snake whip which is easy to carry and incredibly easy to crack. just a bit louder than a .22 but it is good for letting bears know ahead of time that you are in the area, similar to an air horn but i like the whip better. it is so the bears have time to move out of the way and so they have less of an immediate fight or flight reaction. i think bear spray is a must as well though. i think it’s a shame when people only produce a lethal reaction instead of planning ahead
@ULperformance
@ULperformance Жыл бұрын
@@cameronchicken8439 You have an interesting solution. However, your response time may prove to be well too late based on their potential attack speed vs your awareness and response speed.
@anonymous_friend
@anonymous_friend Жыл бұрын
You don't see many guys quick drawing from their neck line do you? 😂
@ULperformance
@ULperformance Жыл бұрын
@@anonymous_friend Address the issue. You disregarded my comment. You would be far swifter retrieving it horizontally than vertically. If you’re a righty, placed on your right side, you slip your finger into the hole and pull otherwise you have an awkward side horizontal pull.
@Sophisticlesenergy
@Sophisticlesenergy 7 ай бұрын
Guys you are arguing about quickdrawing bear spray 😂 when the obvious solution is train with a firearm. That being said bad spot to draw anything fast.
@andycjohnston
@andycjohnston Жыл бұрын
These are great vids, just watched your tarp vids and the Solo hike vid. All are excellent! Thank you! I've started backpacking and bikepacking recently. I'm 50, but used to climb for years and always used a tent. But the weight alone seemed to be too good an advantage for tarp camping. So I got a DD 10 x 10 which is definitely the size (and price point) I'd recommend to anyone starting out. Really versatile and has given me heaps of different pitching styles which I've tried. Ironically I've come full circle and mostly use an A Frame / Plough wherever I can. But in AU the trees are not always the best for it, so I use trekking poles too. I've also started making my own gear, and just finished my first groundsheet project, which is only 80g including the stuff sack. Making things is incredibly satisfying, like you said. What are some of the dimensions of the tarps you have made? Did you try any with wings? I am thinking of a 7 x 9 UL for bikepacking. On the bike it's ironically less about the weight to me than the small packed size as the storage on the bike is less than my pack.
@KaneDoesOutdoors
@KaneDoesOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Hi Andrew! Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated. Funny that you mention the A frame pitch. It is pretty much the only way I camp whether I'm using a shaped or square/flat tarp. I find the A frame holds up best in wind and is easier to adjust if the conditions change. For the tarp in this video it's just over 10' long, 9 ' wide at the head end and 6' wide at the foot and weighs just under a pound (14 oz). The tapered cut gives me a good amount of height at the head end, with a small opening at the foot. I pitch it biased slightly with the foot end into the wind and means rain can't make it in too far. For wings, the first tarp I made was a Ray Jardine kit that has small "beaks" on both ends. These aren'y exactly "wings", but I used that tarp exclusively for years! They are surprisingly effective at keeping rain out. The only drawback is that they limit the pitch to A frame, which honestly isn't a problem. Like you say, one of the huge advantages is the small packed size. Combined with a minimalist bug bivy the tarp in this video packs to about the size of a nalgene bottle. The UL DCF tents from Z packs etc can't even compare - they are huge!
@andycjohnston
@andycjohnston Жыл бұрын
@@KaneDoesOutdoors Great! Thanks for the dimensions, I hadn't even thought of doing a lengthwise taper, but that makes tons of sense from a practical and weight perspective too. 14oz is sort of the area I'm aiming for also. Much appreciated. I have been thinking of making a diamond also to fit to the wind end similar to the Slingfin Splitwing Vestibule. I figure if you had an attachment point on the ridgeline just under and inside the tarp then a diamond would block rain while still allowing for a lot of ventilation, and could be left behind when the weather is better. It would also not impede headroom.
@KaneDoesOutdoors
@KaneDoesOutdoors Жыл бұрын
I played with those add-on ends for rain protection a few years ago. I found it easier to use a pyramid or other fully enclosed shelter instead. For example i have a 2 person yama mountain gear Cirriform that I will be using this week. Fully enclosed and weighs 18 ounces. It’s a very storm worth shelter!
@andycjohnston
@andycjohnston Жыл бұрын
@@KaneDoesOutdoors Yeah, that's a good point when you keep adding things it does hit that value point. Thanks for all the tips and info too. I'll let you know how my first build goes when the fabric gets here.
@hhslf
@hhslf 10 ай бұрын
One benefit is that other hikers will give you props for having such a small and lightweight pack haha
@chrishatton1176
@chrishatton1176 4 ай бұрын
For wind protection under a tarp, why not use an ultralight bivy bag?
@KaneDoesOutdoors
@KaneDoesOutdoors 4 ай бұрын
I tried those many years ago and found it led to condensation problems.
@mr.titanicon747
@mr.titanicon747 Жыл бұрын
What are the wildlife dangers of tarping?
@KaneDoesOutdoors
@KaneDoesOutdoors Жыл бұрын
I guess it depends on the local wildlife. Around here the concern is grizzlies. The difference between tents and tarps is mostly psychological in terms of protection. It takes some time getting used to being so exposed, but I actually like the fact that I could get out from any direction of a tarp vs a tent. If I was somewhere with nasty crawling bugs or snakes, a tarp and hammock setup would be a great option. I have a warbonnet blackbird setup which is amazing but not ideal for the alpine environment in the rockies. Nothing is perfect!
@ChrisWilliams-hm1nx
@ChrisWilliams-hm1nx Жыл бұрын
I'm thinking about a 7'x7' Tent Smith's oilcloth tarp. It's 3.2lbs. Does this sound good for backpacking/tarp camping? I'm not sure 5x8 is big enough. And as you said, it limits options.
@KaneDoesOutdoors
@KaneDoesOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Personally 7x9 would be the smallest I would go for a flat tarp.
@yaroslavbozhkov1567
@yaroslavbozhkov1567 10 ай бұрын
@@KaneDoesOutdoorsAgree. 9x7 is the most universal size for different conditions. I use 3x2 m.
@indianacreekwalker4474
@indianacreekwalker4474 Жыл бұрын
take one large trash bag to protect your gear. Its a good call and low weight
@indianacreekwalker4474
@indianacreekwalker4474 Жыл бұрын
also doubles as a pillow when you put leaves in it
@dylanthomas3140
@dylanthomas3140 11 ай бұрын
Worried about snakes and spiders. A little worried about the tarp leaving me in a storm too
@KaneDoesOutdoors
@KaneDoesOutdoors 9 ай бұрын
I guess it depends where you are camping - those aren't an issue where I am!
@keatonjorgensen8793
@keatonjorgensen8793 Жыл бұрын
Mice are always in season and will come eat your stuff when your trying to sleep
@KaneDoesOutdoors
@KaneDoesOutdoors Жыл бұрын
I’ve only witnessed problems with small rodents at highly impacted campsites. Tent or tarp they will chew into your gear looking for food. Where I am the grizzly bears are the main concern so food needs to be stored accordingly.
@user-sf6mo3ih9o
@user-sf6mo3ih9o 2 ай бұрын
To address the gear on the ground issue from my experience. Minimise your "on ground gear" and put it in...a waterproof bag or a dry sack. Get a length of long cordage and find yourself a nice big chunky stick. Then tie it on and throw it over a nearby tree branch. Try and get it a couple of feet away from the tree trunk and pull it up into the air and stake it down. *also* a great way to store food/drink, valuables, tech ect our of sight. Of animals bugs ect.
@kayakcobber524
@kayakcobber524 8 ай бұрын
Did many long-distance walking projects months in a row and always use tarps. Sometimes combined with bivy or hammock or Aframe Mesh tent depends on the environment. Did desert as well arctic, so often harsh weather conditions. Problem with hammock in winter is windchill or get a bigger tarp that goes to the ground...so winter is more poor man's bed for me, meaning on the floor. Good thing you never know how camp will look that night with a tarp!! Use DDHAMMOCKS gear for many years, cheap and bombproof.
@vinhnguyenmanh6874
@vinhnguyenmanh6874 Жыл бұрын
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@colinlavery625
@colinlavery625 Жыл бұрын
ON NO ACCOUNT ATTEMPT TARP CAMPING IN SCOTLAND .... in mid-summer. When they find your bloated body they will know you have committed suicide by means of midge bites. Our midges are twin engine jobs. A horrible way to go !!!!!
@KaneDoesOutdoors
@KaneDoesOutdoors Жыл бұрын
I’ve heard they are pretty terrible 😂
@natscat4752
@natscat4752 5 ай бұрын
😂 yeah they even crowd around a tiny gap in your car window like a crazed mob don’t they!
@MattScottMusic
@MattScottMusic 5 ай бұрын
What?
@johnbwill
@johnbwill Жыл бұрын
Buy a ultralightweight tent ... I just don't get it. I use a tarptent ... weighs 2lbs. But, who cares? And extra 1lb ... for comfort, security, insect protection ...
@KaneDoesOutdoors
@KaneDoesOutdoors Жыл бұрын
I understand what you’re saying. With the products that are currently available, a person who can only own one three season shelter would probably do best with one of the many great ul tents and not deal with the challenges of a tarp. The Lanshan 1 Pro is a great example, even if you’re on a budget. For myself, using different shelters is part of the experience that I enjoy. I match my gear to the trip and season, including a variety of tents that I’ve bought over the years. I find myself taking the tarp more than any tent though. It’s very satisfying to sleep outside with such a simple piece of gear.
@gadblatz4841
@gadblatz4841 Жыл бұрын
@@KaneDoesOutdoors Well said ^ There's something about a tarp I really enjoy. I have a few options for shelters, and I enjoy them all for different reasons. It's all about what's enjoyable and works well for somebody.
@niesaforster9945
@niesaforster9945 Жыл бұрын
So buy a bugnet with boat bottom like OneTigris or DD tarps. Same weight, but able to build in multiple variations.
@bobd3089
@bobd3089 Жыл бұрын
Just use a tent
@dylanthomas3140
@dylanthomas3140 11 ай бұрын
People claim to be woodsman, but can’t be out there without their glamping gear
@KaneDoesOutdoors
@KaneDoesOutdoors 9 ай бұрын
Sometimes I do!
@RC-qf3mp
@RC-qf3mp Жыл бұрын
Great content but it would be more helpful to illustrate what you’re talking about rather than just showing video of you walking. It’s like somebody called you up for a video chat, while disturbing your hike, and you’re explaining tarps reluctantly without even stopping. But otherwise informative.
@KaneDoesOutdoors
@KaneDoesOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Glad you found some useful information. I like experimenting with different video formats, but film the vast majority on real trips. For example this video was recorded towards the end of a 20+ km day. They were just some thoughts that crossed my mind that I decided to record. Completely off the cuff, unplanned, and unscripted.
@bobd3089
@bobd3089 Жыл бұрын
He's out of breath from just walking
@KaneDoesOutdoors
@KaneDoesOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Then come for a nice long walk with me in the mountains. It’ll be fun
@MASTURBIKER
@MASTURBIKER 9 ай бұрын
Some ground sheets pack up tiny, and i always have at least one soare dry bag with me to keep items dry, also my pack is lined by 2 large dry bags...
@KaneDoesOutdoors
@KaneDoesOutdoors 9 ай бұрын
Yep I use a piece of thin tyvek from a kite store as a ground sheet. I think it weights 2.5 oz.
@MASTURBIKER
@MASTURBIKER 9 ай бұрын
@@KaneDoesOutdoors i have one of those reflective sheets for winter camping to keep my body warmth ...
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