You are 100% right. Unless you can get your story out to the right place, you get answers then. Shouldn't take that to get a answers. How is this happening

the govt wants us all to be homeless and give us just enough not to starve to death .

I'd add a third thing: They knew they were wrong.

Because they don't want an investigation of this scam. The whole place is run like Dominion voting machines.

@@marleonetti7 That’s pretty much what SS was intended for when it was implemented: prevent abject poverty and destitution. It wasn’t intended to provide a middle class lifestyle upon retirement. ☹️

Hundred of billions too to every country on Earth! Our hard earned money being squandered by foreign governments. When we collapse economically, who will come to our aid? I think we all know the answer to that one!

That and not properly taxing the rich.

​@@AyeohxExactly 👍🏾

This is the thing: It's not about the money "going overseas," it's the government allowing the wealthy and super rich to NOT pay a dime.

​@@carlettesouthern-robert2992 Those who make around $168,000 a year pay nothing towards FICA but when they retire receives social security if they meet todays requirements. The richest and the wealthiest who pay nothing should pay, and a higher amount, towards social security and every year. WTH is Capitol Hill doing to stop social security from being depleted because there's no excuse for it to possibly happen.

@@JP-te7kdyet the point is that his leg won’t grow back and it’s unlikely that this kind of disability will change

Smh!

More than ridiculous! It is a slap to your brother-in-law. Do they expect his leg to regenerate? So sad for him.

There is a lot of fraud that’s why.

Traumatic brain injury here. I have to go in every year and prove I haven’t grown a new brain.

Social Security is fictional. You rely on waste marketed as social security to do what?

You are not alone my friend. I’m 34 and absolutely terrified about how things will be in my future for so many things and this is a huge one. I’m also so scared of overpayment, it’s so hard to know what exactly they’re doing so there’s no peace. About two years ago they actually sent me a letter saying they were cutting me from SSI. (Which, of course, was utterly devastating and took a huge toll of my mental health). Thankfully I got lucky. I was able to get into touch with a lawyer whose agency helps people with cases like mine. If you don’t win, you don’t pay them. If you do win and money was held back in the interim then you pay them some amount out of that money. For me they were able to win before my payments stopped so I payed nothing and was saved. (And of course this was not an overpayment situation. Somehow I was luckier that they were gonna to abandon me then I would’ve been if I’d gotten overpaid. That’s insane.) I will always be grateful for the help and guidance this lawyer gave me. I’m also hugely lucky to have a support network, so many people on Social Security have very few or no people who can help them deal with these things. When it’s one or two (sick or elderly) individuals against a government agency, they have every bit of the power and you’re just trying to claw your way forward. It’s atrocious.

Don't worry about it; these sort of mistakes are quite rare.

@@barneyronnie since this comment, a few weeks ago they sent me a letter that I have been overpaid by 3k and they will be taking all of my Social Security survivor benefits for myself and my daughter until it is paid back. I am absolutely devastated

@@barneyronnie I too, know someone this happened to. Not that rare.😥

Why did they spend money that wasnt theirs? This isnt that hard.

@@Getitstraightyo DBAG Alert....troll

@@Getitstraightyo Exactly...the victimhood (real and fake) in America is appalling.

Yep. And they sent numerous letters demanding money

@@michaelclark2144 no the dbags are the crooks who kept something they knew didn’t belong to them. Old farts are some of the most dishonest scumbags out there.

I unfortunately agreed to be an "alternate payee" on behalf of my niece, who was getting SS as a minor bc her father passed away and her mother was not able to do it. Well, just after I got the initial (large - several months' worth) payment, I purchased a savings bond to hold for her until she turned 18. Then the child made her friend's mother the payee, and they came after me for that $5k+. Meanwhile, they sent that amount to the new payee!! Luckily, I kept the proof and sent it in (3 times!), and eventually, they clawed it back from the new payee. However, a year went by, and they sent me another notice to pay, so I had to send it all in again! It's in their own pamphlet titled "what to do with overpayments" that a savings bond is one of the options. Now been about 8 years, and I still have all the evidence, which will go to my kids when I'm gone in case they ever try to come after them or my estate! It sucks so bad - NEVER be an "alternate payee" for a family member or for a friend, if at all possible!!

Lol

This happens alot. I'd suggest the IRS was using Common Core Math long before they tried shoving it down our children's throats.🤔

Contact your Congressional Representative and share your story with him or her. They need to know about this!!

@@DragonNinja4680yes 🙏♥️🕊🤲it’s citizen abuse .. social security wastes time’n$ ..do not consent .. Article IV Section 4 cites government must protect citizens fm domestic abuse not cause it ..unconstitutional esp4 low income people .

This whole country is going down the drain... the evidence is overwhelming! 😮

As should people who take money that doesn’t belong to them.

​@@elizabethlibero1878Many of them did not realize that they were being overpaid. I am sure that many people do not review their statements regularly, especially financial statements like investment statements, Social Security statements, bank statements, credit card statements, paystubs, etc. This is why you should regularly review that information because many institutions that issue those statements can make mistakes.

@@elizabethlibero1878 but these people don’t know they’re being overpaid

Democrat thieves . Did they report earning income on SSN federal income? And any person that says they should keep money is a thief>four years of taxpayer money they stole.

@@sandblast5636 Just saw a Congressional hearing where Senator Mark Rubio is grilling Mayorkatis as to why we are giving monthly SSI payment, food stamps and free medical. He said they were fleeing Cuba and were political refugees. Rubio gave evidence that some of these same people were actually going back to Cuba for vacation staying 2-3 months. They are using our tax dollars to live free here and go back to supposedly a country they fear for their lives. I am livid. Our government is completely corrupt.

What we need to do….all people who have suffered this…what correspondence do you retain? They say they can’t provide recap information…no kidding, it was never provided. If this is expunged or the slate wiped clean…do we have documents? Banks don’t go back that far, if they do, it’s substantial fees. Some people have everything saved. Find out. Rest assured, plenty of people paid and gave up. Many too embarrassed, or didn’t know how to complain. Local news had human interest On Your Side segments. It’s no longer a common feature. What I say to powers that be….look, some people have to go on the bus and hope the copier is working, If I tell you a reference number, you shouldn’t need a copy from me. I’ve spent a small fortune on certified mail already.

​@sandblast5636 what makes you think this is purely one party?

I am one who has been paying them back for 3 years for a few random overpayments. Of course I was never able to defend myself against those overpayments to show that I didn't owe the amount they claimed. They've had me living on less than $750 a month for the last 3 years Try buying food and paying your bills with that kind of money. Every time I call to see how much I have left to pay they only tell me the total amount I owed them in the beginning. Each time I explain I've been paying for 3 years so I shouldn't owe that total amount and they say we'll notify the payment department who will get in touch with you. Give them a month. Month rolls around haven't heard anything and call them back and hear the same thing again. That month rolls around and I hear nothing. It's a lot of stress and usually if you're on social security you definitely don't need additional stress. It's an endless cycle with no endpoint. I can understand why this woman has that look in her eye. It's a look of defeat.

And only for the specific individuals in this story. Millions of others remain on the hook. Despicable.

Well it is government.... I don't expect anything less from those crooks

It wasn't a good conscience that ssi waved the payments, it was definitely the heat the media brought on due to this exposure.

It too easy for government workers to pass the buck

SSA shouldn't have waived the payments. The couple should have been forced to pay ALL of it back because they OWED it.

I would use the word disgusting.

contempt is the wrong word. But as someone that works in a government social service system( CPS), employees do learn to remove emotion from decision making or else everyone gets approved. I've had many cases that have been denied due to policy reasons and CRIED LIKE A BABY AFTER! If I had a magic wand I would fix everything in child services but I can't and that's why I'm logical and emotionless in my job. I'm sure SSA workers feel the same way.

If it SS fault they should have to eat it. We don't figure the amount we get...they do. So that is their fault.

Does anyone KNOW? I heard for years the Federal Government and Federal employees CAN'T BE SUED? ? Soc. Sec. Office/Admin and ***Postal employees who steal Federal checks all the time

It only benefits those shown on 60mins. How will this 60mins short documentary benefit the millions of people caught in this web of poor calculations bad documentations of SS payments?

@@4evertrue830 that's a great question. Most television stations won't air this. We have to do better by our citizens.

Excellent work Anderson! Always proud of you! Keep on doing God's work! Bless you!

This is why we need factual journalism in our world!

realize media causes the problem, they promote the problem. all the report is, is a lesson in ego.

pretty sure ss "made a mistake" on that too, because children in america are not responsible for their parents' debts- especially when the 'debt' was incurred when the child was actually a child. can you imagine any other entity trying to make an adult child pay for their deceased parents' debt? i can. some time after my father died, a collection agency called me and said i owed his hospital bills. i told them i was hanging up and reporting them to each and every agency i could think of. they never called again.

He should payback! He appears to feed him and that mutt thousands in McDs and wendys every month, so he can afford to cutback and payback who financed him to walk instead of roll

When there is over a million mistakes in one year social security is incompetent.

That's some Lloyd's of London inherited debt right there!

this happened to me with my VA compensatin lol, took me 5 years to repay overpayments.

Was hoping to get away with it obviously

Yes SS has a statement showing your earnings and an estimate of what your benefit will be. The closer to retirement age you get the more accurate the estimated is. I don't believe she didn't know it was wrong. But SS should have caught it earlier not 4 years later!

They knew

She should've seen and known it was too much money. Their yearly raise is like 1%!! I call. BS on her claim...really? Even still working, i know what each paycheck will be!!

She wasn't taking anyone else's payments. They were giving her the amount they decided on by calculating the benefits for 4 people instead of just her - the one person. But nobody else's benefits were affected by that mistake. They just overpaid her.

That is horrible , I hope you are ok

I too, have 2 letters from different parts of SSI, from 2 different cities, that contradict each other. One says I get benefits, the other says I owe. Guess which one they went with?

Are you on SSI?

SS pro-rates benefits based on any other source of income. It's as if we never paid into the system to ensure a retirement benefit.

You don’t get “kicked off “ SS.. you’re allowed to earn a certain amount of income, and once you go over that amount, they deduct $1 dollar for every $2 dollars you earn.. but you don’t actually lose that money.. once you stop earning above the li It, they reinstate your prior income…

Democrat thives

I feel horrible for e everybody else that had/have nobody to represent them.

@@sm5130ThankyouGod Oh my poor liberals feel so horrible for people who steal from the taxpayers of America.

They were over paid and they b ew they were should have sead something wen it started .not wait 4 years.

Is 60 minutes prepared to advocate for each of us? SOMEBODY SHOULD.

So am I. I leave the office in tears every time I go. They asked for documents. I brought them. They can't find them. But it's my fault. The customer rep shut the window IN MY FACE WHILE I WAS TALKING!

​@@sunnypsych27I'm so sorry you're also dealing with this nightmare. I submitted everything for an appeal over a month ago. They say the process could take months, and although they've reinstated my benefits during the appeal process, they are adding interest to the $50k they claim I owe. You can contact your local senator or congressman for help. They're there to help with these types of situations.

​@@sunnypsych27I just won my appeal. If you haven't appealed, please do.

Me too. I'm having panic attacks. This stress is killing me.

In November I received a letter from SSA saying I owed over $50,000 and they were going to discontinue my benefits immediately. I appealed their decision. Last week, I received a letter saying I WON my appeal! Based on this 20/20 story, I thought it would take years to resolve. Don't give up. If you need help please call your local Congressman or Senator. This is the type of help they offer their constituents. I hope you win your appeal.

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Where are the protests for this and healthcare. :/

You nailed the issue that EVERY American citizen should care about. How is our tax money being doled out by the billions to help foreign countries when the workers PAYING into these aid packages aren’t being taken care of first? Our communities must demand better from Our Government.

The elderly neglects the elderly with who they vote for. I’m sorry but it’s true and needs to be said. Social Security is a socialist ideal, it is socialism in its truest form. The capitalist agenda values retired, non-working folks far less than those who are employed and working. In 2020, when COVID took place here - multiple conservatives stated they didn’t care about the impact on the elderly population because they didn’t contribute to society. As someone living in Florida, I can safely say these folks vote against their own best interest constantly. Florida being a red state is incredibly ironic, especially as cuts to programs like SS and Medicare are so often threatened. I only have sympathy towards seniors who understand this and are caught in the middle of it.

All you have said is the truth about how we as elderly Americans are forced to live. We need our own representatives in this vile corrupt government. We should not help other countries UNTIL OUR CITIZENS living our best lives, I do not mean extreme wealth. Just to have jobs so we can support our families and live happy lives which does not mean being a millionaire.

They probably only had minimum wage jobs during their entire lives, which is why they are getting so little from Social Security.

I used a guy dog too but got 2 years for that one. Just kidding I love you from one disabled person with too much time on their hands to another

You can pay less than that. Matter of fact you should pay less than that.

Your story is exactly my story, these terrorists are putting me through their ringer for the last three years.

@@user-wh7kt5oz3r read the room dude, that's not a good joke and this isn't the place for it. Even with the 'just kidding love you', that comment is awful. In any case, I hope OP gets some relief somehow.

They technically can't get anymore. If they take you to court, you need fight any and all action. I assume you're not sitting on a pile of money and if you own your house, most states have unlimited homestead protection exemption.

This is the program that helped Congress pass the WEP way back in the early 1980s because of a false report about "double dipping." What happened with the WEP is that it was the LOWER wage workers who did not have a lifetime of a career in the public sector who got shafted. I had a mere five years in Nevada public employment, yet because I don't have 30 years of "substantial earnings" in Social Security-covered work, I get cheated out of 120 bucks a month. Combine this with Medicare, and I am short 300 bucks a month. I don't even get 900 a month net for all the years i worked, and I had to take SS early. Never-marred women especially are penalized as it is; the WEP makes it worse. I have to work until I die.

It's hard to run a poniz

It is not a "Ponzi scheme." Quit believing the lies of Koch-backed "libertarian" outfits whose motives are merely that the corporations Koch owns don't want to pay the employer share of FICA.

That’s big government.

Lmao it's government. Don't hold your breath because it be the last one you ever take if you think the United States government going to do any thing to make it right for the people that are forced tax withholdings .

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​@@Lida-sh6ee6667The Meeks shall inherit the earth😮!

Yeah one big thing. The fact that they have been so bias towards a Democratic party especially when Trump was in office is disgusting. The one lady who interviewed him who said she knew nothing about the Joe Biden laptop Hunter Biden lie shows nobody can trust these people. It's all about power

Right! Our "fourth" branch of government! It's in jeopardy though...voting blue is our only chance to save it for ppl like trump, who like all authoritarian governments, try to vilify the media and journalists and want to silence them.

This is MANIPULATION FOR VIEWS!!!!

I think that's why they do it. Not only to put stress on people ( heart attacks/ strokes) and just out of GREED.

Personal responsibility is FREEDOM. Playing victim is not. This is why they teach people to be helpless. Much easier to milk and rule over. All of us need to be aware of every gd penny flowing thru our lives. Understand there is no FREE anything. No perfect system. Life is a chit salad and one's best defense is always be on Offense. Not playing like a 3 years old who had their cookie stolen.

It is VERY RARE to talk to or go in an office and meet with a Soc Sec worker who cares, knows their job, or is grateful to be healthy and able to work. They ABOSOLUTELY LOVE TO CRAP ON PEOPLE WITH DISABLED CHILDREN! They want you to be DIRT POOR and a dollar away from being homeless. Anyone who has been a live-in caregiver for a relative/love one with a chronic illness knows how expensive things are and how much is not covered by any insurance. So you need money to help keep a sick and disabled love one HOME and not in the hospital. 1st...How ARE YOU GOING TO BE 2 PLACES AT 1 TIME? What do you do qhen you dont have help and are alone and no one else can take off work OR CARES??? So many medical needs/supplies are not covered. Most people sincerely use Soc Sec for Medical needs. Gas in the car Special diets all kinds of small medical supplies to Copays. Larger utility bills...WATER... ELECT. I wash EVERY DAY! I Have to keep ac on during peek hours. Someone aka Me must always with my son. He cant be left alone So no break in a hot state. Im driving a very expensive vehicle because I have to put a wheelchair in it! I would never have bought it if there was no need. When you trade PERSONAL FREEDOM & FINANCIAL GROWTH & SECURITY ...For Your Child Soc Sec sits perched like a vulture waiting for a "GOTCHA" moment. Dare you try to work and pay bills and keep a good credit score? Ohhh Hell No! You child better be UNDER 18...Yep the healthiest time of A parent's life. Why the FINANCIAL punishment? Im 66 No Obama care until my son was 38. I was/ have treated like POOP for 42years he has been sick and disabled! I paid my way thru college, but if I worked to try to pay for his meds/2800month when he was 7...Then I was cheating Soc Sec! Even after I informed them I was working. Back then about 1986 He was getting 340 dollars a month. It helped but it sure didn't make us RICH. I reported my income. Next thing I know Im in COURT! for 3400.00 overpayment/10 months. I took my paystubs into local Soc Sec office sat with a lady and she Made COPIES and wrote down everything in a FILE. Then I got my surprise! Court for 3400 dollars, Not 34k, not 340k. I did tell the judge I was insulted that the Government thought Id steal 340$ a month. I told Judge if Soc Sec mistakenly sent 3.4million at 1 time and that check cleared...Now Id catch a case for that amount...but the Feds would have to out what country we moved to find us 1st. lol He laughed and dismissed the case. This insanity has to STOP! Where do they think people get money from with a sick and disabled person at home? If you are doing right by them YOU WILL BE BROKE! Barely Living CHECK TO CHECK. I made Flower pens to afford gas and parking at the hospital/our 2nd home. 1 month we had 17 ER visits. Praise God my son is still here but Im a PANIC STRICKEN WRECK from school and government and Now GREEDILY RUN CORPORATE Run HOSPITALS. I have been TRAUMATIZED for 42years! My sick child DIDN'T CAUSE ANY OF THE TRAUMA!

The judge was right.

​@@IP0Monsturdthe judge touched you

I’m so sorry this happened to her. Hope she is doing well now. Sounds absolutely awful 😞

@@PraveenSriram Actually, she passed a few years ago, not all that long after fighting this battle with SS. I'm telling you, it affected her health. I did all I could to help her and it caused me a lot of stress too. They made her last 5 years horrible.

That is awful! I’m so sorry she had to endure that! May she rest in peace. Our country and the world continue to spiral out of control. My our Lord come soon 🙏🏽

Sorry she had to suffer so much in her last years.

People need to teach Americans not to be s weak and wimpy when it comes to their shtty government.

Oh my god, I'm sorry. Crazy.

You should not have even been sent a bill if you ware a minor at the time. Congress keeps giving itself raises, great health insurance, great income, income and health insurance after leaving office, Yet, they bill a person who was a minor when they received extra money from the government. Republicans even want to eliminate social security, Yet, some people keep voting republican. Who should we blame? @@marygoff3332

Democrat thieves

Where is our justice system !! This is the government stealing from the elderly !! At the rate of over a million per year !!

Sad to say the person he hates (Trump) is probably the only person that would fix this🤷🏾‍♂️

This is what the news should be, not shoving a political agenda down peoples throats and making enemies of half the American people.

@@leonardtarver149 you be right Bro

Dang! The system is so ..........MESSED UP !!!! Hope & Wish you all the best in your future .

@@DavidJones-ib3zy 👍

Well I think you gotta write SSA & tell them to put you on a payment plan I mean you can’t just say i can keep the money because the government made a mistake; but on the other hand, you can’t penalize them and you have to let them pay it back. Let them pay back slowly and maybe they could take out a loan pay it back and then pay on their loan. If SSA all of sudden gives u a big increase call & ask

@@kareyrose Oh, you can get put on a payment plan through SSA. The stupidest thing you could do is take out another loan to pay it back cuz SSA doesn't charge you interest

@@kareyrose "If SSA all of a sudden gives you a big raise, call and ask." That should be in big letters across every piece of paper they send you! They don't just give you a big raise, they send you paperwork saying they are giving you a raise and the reasons they are doing so. They actually convince you this is right, then 3 years later or whatever it is when they say you owe them thousands of dollars, then they say you should have called

You should have had some kind Of disability insurance.

@@johnp139 It was work related, therefore Work Comp was involved....After a 3.5 year battle in court

You should send a tweet to your state rep state senator CNN and Social Security and a news organization these stories need to get out This is unacceptable unbelievable

Right, so these recipients shouldn’t get MORE MONEY FROM MY DEDUCTIONS because of an error!!!

Ponzi scheme!!

They say said I owed 1,100 dollars from when they overpaid me 47 years ago.

How would YOU NOT KNOW that you were getting $1,000 a month MORE than you were supposed to get???

I wonder if Ukraine got any overpayment

you had no idea?

As long as they keep blaming the people, I don't see this changing.

I saw in the video, the head of SS is a woman. Now that right there speaks a lot about accountability. Smh.

Yes it is ok. It is their fault. They got 3 years of payments. They knew. They just kept collecting. And you get big handouts so you can’t complain either.

I am currently paying back an overpayment. Been doing it since 2014 and the entire ordeal started in late 2010. I still have several years to go before it's all paid off.

@@dcg590 so, you weren't actually watching the video..... k

To be honest, if you knew, you should have put the extra money in a savings account so you could pay it back when needed. If you did not know it's a different story.

@@mensmans9241 I didn’t know the amount of the difference. Besides, my husband died of ALS and there was so much medical expenses I had to take care of. There was no way I could have saved money.

​@@mensmans9241no one knows if, or when, they are going to come back to you.

If an agency can't do its job you don't solve the problem by cutting their money. Congress keeps agency stupid by resisting refusing to face up to the needs of the agencies. The fact is Congress is not paying agencies enough to hire enough competent employees. So politicians can continue to campaign on ignorance.

​@@mensmans9241 Good advice!

Right!! we HAVE to provide proper documentation of whatever they need upon filing and reviews, and if THEY can't provide any documentation on this case from so many years ago and as the young man said "they did not have anything anymore".....then WHERE did they find the exact amount owing??

The US govt still uses Cobol computer systems. LOL! People need to educate themselves and revolt. The wealthy' , aka Republicans, don't want to spend the money to upgrade. Because, it is no concern, nor benefits them. The govt has your life in their hands Wake up people!

@@chrisfry436Great Question!!

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Thank you Joe Biden !

Wait until you realize what young people are going thru. We never got ahead to begin with but the system still hurts us the same. At least you had something to lose.

Yes. HOW do we know the calculation IS CORRECT?

Note sure if this helps, but the Social Security Administration provides a calculator: www.ssa.gov/OACT/quickcalc/ After entering your figures, you can change their assumptions. You need to have kept good tax records for many years to figure it.

I dont know, budgeting for 3 minutes?

Perhaps they would actually look at their social security STATEMENTS!!!!!!

@@johnp139 Yeah you would think the people sending them out would also.

Exactly. Lol

Social Security fault, Social Security phone Social Security fault they gave it out right their fault they need take responsibility and sick tired of people like you covering for them

I know, like that lady that was the school cafeteria worker and was getting benefits from 4 other people and she acted like she was unaware something was up. I think she thought she could get away with it, because did you notice her husband didn't speak at all. He had to know too and they probably used that money to pay off their house.

EXACTLY!!! They should be CHARGED with FRAUD!!! NOT BE ALLOWED TO KEEP OVERPAYMENTS!!!

Oh yes it IS their fault if they are collecting SS and getting disability and shouldn't be getting it. The rules are strict.

@@ValleyoftheRogue true for some but not all. I know that as a fact 🤷🏾‍♀️

Dude was working and earning more than federal minimum wage. They knew they weren’t supposed to get as much as they did. They’re just mad because their privilege cards were revoked. Should’ve bet that money on derivatives and fattened their nest egg on the interest. No-they’re upset because the spigot was stopped. Boo hoo!

Not your fault. It's the stupid government that has such a small amount of ssa employees handling such a large program.

​@@VoltairesRevengeAmerica: thieves, slaves and opportunists...😊

It is the taxpayers' money.

Per policy it’s supposed to be based off of income, not a set amount based on overpayment.

Congress doesn't give a s***.

@@stevenstrain283 Yup, they could never blame themselves now could they? That would mean, as an agency, they would have to "stifle" their pride issues.

Over a million times a year as well. Plus a lot of the people they do it to are vets and disabled people. The US government is pathetic.

it called the law.

​@@RichieRich-pn3ggso we need to change the law.

So do the recipients.

My cousin's wife is like that. She's never worked and was getting SSI , but I'm not sure if she still does. She's always gotten free medical. It makes me mad too because I've always had to work, but since she doesn't she could sit up at a public hospital or free clinic all day until they finally got around to seeing her. I wouldn't be able to take off work to do that.

I have a family member whose disability was stopped because he was working fulltime. He cut back his hours so he could get back on benefits. If you can work fulltime you do not need to be on SS. He is only in his early 40s. Yet, I am having a hard time with my mobility and after working 40 years I am having a hard time getting benefits that I paid for.

Victims? You are trying to keep something that doesn’t belong to you. More like crooks.

@@IP0Monsturd They(e.g. family) and millions of other Americans paid Social Security taxes and now they owe the Social Security department for over payment of benefits. The Government should stop raiding the Social Security Trust to fund wars that we never win (e.g. Afghanistan, Iraq) etc. that would help the so-called “lower contribution” due to less US child births. The government can print money (billions) to support countries all over the world(e.g. Pakistan, Israel,Ukraine) but can’t forgive Social Security “over payments” recipients. SMH

Unfortunately, no one can sue the Federal Government (any agency) unless they agree to allow it. Do you think they are going to allow it? I would not bet on it.

Unfortunately, that would be a waste of money and time.

@@IP0Monsturdmaybe this will happen to you some day, and you will sing a different tune.

Irrelevant

Obviously social security didn't read people on disability CAN make a certain amount per month and still receive disability!! Smh

But who will know about this precedent? If agents are freewheeling these debt letters based upon NOTHING, what will stop them going forward?!!!

that’s what happens in America when you have no protections or rights as a consumer.

@@Milk-rn5uqThat's not true

@@joycem5967 It's effectively true enough when people don't have the resources or knowhow to use those protections.

@@scarpfish if you want to get information, there are free internet services ( especially in libraries ) , there are also volunteer lawyers in US, you need first try to help yourself, as a consumer, you collect evidence and get a lawyer, if you choose to keep it in the dark, then that's what you're getting.

@@joycem5967 Come on man, you're the one in the dark as you clearly didn't watch the stories in the 60 minutes piece -- these three played by the rules (one even with fax receipts of the paystubs they had sent to SSI) and SSI claims they never received them and in the case of the man who was a boy at the time -- as his mother (caregiver) who's long been dead -- filed for a few years on his behalf because he had cerebral palsy. An 11 year-old would never have such documentation. And SSI doesn't have it either...yet are putting the onus on the customers to "prove their innocence" for something years if not decades after the fact.

He started back part time and eventually full time. He called them with every raise and was not given a chart as to how much he can make. The only paychart he received was when the disability started and we were told that changes every year. The letter he received said he can work and get disability for 5 years. That's why when the 5 years was coming up we knew it would be stopped. Instead a letter arrives saying he's been overpaid for the last 3 1/2 years. We are not stupid people. Innocent - yes.

Act like an American.

The people who kept something that didn’t belong to them are the thieves in this situation.

If you get and keep 4 times the benefits you expect, you’re a thief. Period.

​@@IP0MonsturdHow could they have known they were overpaid? Is there a way for them to calculate benefits and not rely on the SS?

​@@VoltairesRevengeSocial security benefits is NOT a loan borrowed that should be paid back. It is a debt the govt owes you in the future and in due time. The right thing SS should have done, is to withhold future payments due to the beneficiary to offset the overpaid benefits and not to request money paid to be returned. That solves the problem.😉

I’m so sorry

@@Ididntwantayoutubehandl Thank you. I feel very sorry for the people who get these letters. In my case, I was told in writing that I was allowed to make $300 a month and still get my benefits. But any month I made $1 more than that, even if there were months I made nothing, the entire benefit was taken away and had to be repaid. There’s no doubt in my mind suicides have resulted from this. The rate of suicide for the veterans of our armed forces is already too high.

You were overpaid. That money never belonged to you. Of course, no lawyer will take that stupid case.

How did you end up owing I am on SSDI and have no way of finding out if I’m being overpaid. I have a my social security account and there is nothing on there to indicate if I get over paid.

Regarding receiving SSDI..SS reviews work income every 2-3 yrs to insure you are not earning more than accepted limit, if there is 1 mo you earned too much, you are to notify them at which pt they consider you are no longer eligible for SSDI.. to avoid, you need to contact SS to determine how they calculate the Work amt.then you need to monitor it yourself. This is to insure avoid what happened to me. I was told I earned 1 month $100 over limit 3 years prior. Resulted in their stopping SSDI and Medicare, I my owing over $50,000. Negotiated and now they withhold from my SS(now retired)check over $200/mo for 20 yrs..in my case I'll be 84 when overpayment paid back...

You aren’t being punished, you weren’t entitled to that money. Period.

@@dcg590 Yeah, but they have to live off of that money, it's not sitting around making interest, so the idea that the government can make a miscalculation FOR YEARS and then suddenly demand the money back is harsh. Like if your job overpaid you for ten years and then gave you a bill for &15,000 because of their error, you'd be upset too.

We need more information. There are clearly written rules about notifying Social Security FOR ANY CHANGE IN INCOME! It falls to the recipient. You have to sign that you have read and understood the rules when before you get SSD & SSI. For my state's benefits, I think it is 6 weeks after the income increases. Which means, when the "disabled" guy got surgery and became fit to work--he was obligated to contact SS regarding any employment. The guy who got SSD--when he went back to work--was supposed to notify SS as soon as he began working again. SSD and SSI can still be received, if the wages are still less because of inability to work more. They adjust the benefit. But if you are able to work, they absolutely require that you do and that you notify them. I am sure that in every state it is no more than 3 months after the income increase. No one should be making more with wages and SSD or SSI combined than they did while they were fully employed. And if you have no clue, all you have to do is call the SS office. They will make an appointment for a phone consult. They will explain the rules and will review all the income. As often as needed. I know this, because I called them for an appointment. You don't even have to leave your home.

​@@PixieTheRabbitOne of the couples were reporting their income in a timely and regular bases and they still didn't adjust payments. SMH! SS has a responsibility to send out information needed to avoid this as well. The story about the guy receiving a letter for something when he was 11yrs. old, 20 years ago, is crazy and irresponsible on the part of the SS Administration.

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It is all part of their plan

They got paid more than they should have, from a govt program that shouldnt even exist. They spent the money. They owe it back.

​@@Getitstraightyo You sir, are derp. Please explain to us what the US would look like without SS. Explain how we would take care of elderly Americans. Because, I guarantee we'd take care of them before not taxing you 80% or more if necessary.

IT’S NOT THEIR MONEY!!!! It belongs to the rest of the people who are CONTRIBUTING!!!

they wont stop until we are all homeless .

I was overpaid 500 when husband died..they sent a small form..I said, not to take..box, not my fault..they took it anyway...

if you own anything becareful they may own it

I saw that story in the headlines recently. That is insane. Everyone on here needs to copy the link to the story and send it in a tweet and include CNN, Anderson Cooper, the White House, news media, Congress senators people's own state rep and state senator. This is an agency running rogue and unaccountable to any check and balances. This is frightening

I applied to get benefits cause I have low vision so I’m almost blind, I would think in this instance you’d get automatic benefits. I stopped doing my application process though awhile back. I’m like ‘You expect me to work I don’t think so, I don’t know how to drive, and I can barely see’. It’s a process though.

Not normal Americans just our Corrupt Government.

Don't worry by the time they get to arrange a meeting your grandkids might not be alive

Why should tax payers have to pay for your decisions? You should have saved money to retire. You shouldnt have cashed the checks that you knew were more than you were supposed to get. We should have legal recourse against you. The entitlement is insane

😲@@Getitstraightyo

What makes you think people knew it was more than they were supposed to get?

@@Getitstraightyo Go take a pill!

False…..the rich pay the majority of the tax load.

What does the rich and tax breaks have to do with the SSA making these big mistakes?

I think they are referring to the Social Security Tax Limit, if you make more than $160,200 you no longer pay Social Security Tax. So yes, rich people don't need Social Security and don't pay into Social Security, THIS IS A HUGE PROBLEM!!!!

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Well if the BANK accidentally puts 10,000 in our checking acct and you spend it, you have to pay that back. I dont get how someine could got $70,000 in over payments like that woman did who was getting benefits meant for FOUR other people, and not know something was wrong!! I always get SS statements once a year telling me what my benefir check will BE at various ages between now and age 66/10 which is my full retirement. From that I already know what my check will be, let's just for example say it would be $1800/mo at that age, if I suddenly started getting checks for like even $2500 I'd be contacting SS to find out why that number doesnt match up with the annual STATEMENTS they sent me each year showing me exactly what the amount would be at various ages and if my income remains what it is, I cant fathom someone getting like from the sounds of it maybe $3,000 a month for 2-3 years and not question it!

@@HobbyOrganist Unfortunately, unless it happens to you it's not that simple. They bombard you with letters and ignore you when you call, don't respond to waivers, or ALJ requests and wait years before they tell you, OOPS our fault pay it anyway. I hope this doesn't happen to anyone but it primarily does to the elderly and disabled.

If they shorted your daughter 9k you would be shooting your big mouth off all over the place. So what is the difference? Your daughter kept something that didn’t belong to her. Obviously, you failed her as a parent.

⁠@@HobbyOrganist The. How is it that they are making the mistakes.. thru are the ones that send the statements. Young your special little SS# , to see how much you have paid in , in order to calculate those figures on that statement! . So do tell how they keep making mistakes for DECADES!!!

@@HobbyOrganist The maximum 2023 federal monthly benefit of $943 as an individual, or $1,415 for couples. If this was over a duration of 9 years then they were overpaid about $648 a month. This means they were supposed to be getting $767 a month. $1415 a month isn’t a lot of money and most wouldn’t question it. It’s reasonable to think that if you paid into a system for 45+ years for retirement that would be a fair payment. I’m just speculating as well. I don’t know what they actually took home per month or paid in. Just wanted to point out it may not be that obvious.

Same. It makes me sick to my stomach with stress. It's not comfortable owing money, let alone to the government. It's not like you're aloud to save money. They can even have all payments stopped for 6 months if you sell your broken down vehicle that you can't afford to fix, if the amount you sell if for is less than they think you should get for it. So much more that I won't get into. They get you anyway they can.

@@mommabear2544 The most that you can get from a sick child is 6-9 hundred dollars a month. If you are getting close to 9 hundred dollars a month, called SSI and make sure the amount is correct.

Same here