SOFTAIL 114 STAGE 2 DYNO RUNS - BIG POWER ?

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@mattfarren1205
@mattfarren1205 2 жыл бұрын
John I went 475 with khromewerks on my streetglide based off your videos. My mechanic also installed the s&s polished intake manifold from fuel moto. He called Dave, which he said was one of the most professional people he’s ever talked to, and gave him great guidance on that set up. My guy is a Harley master tech from Mmi. A few other places told him it was a terrible combo. I trusted your videos and Dave’s knowledge I’ve seen in the videos. What a beast that bike is! I’m glad I stuck to my guns on what I wanted. 129hp 143lb/ft and I’ve got the dyno chart
@osu3221
@osu3221 2 жыл бұрын
That guy needs a KZfaq channel Thanks for introducing the biker world to him. Always good to see a master mechanic and not a hack.
@andybyrne3542
@andybyrne3542 2 жыл бұрын
It does suck that I’ll have to spend so much more money to get my twin cam to make this power, but it is what it is I guess. Keeping my Dyna.
@robertmacdonald2735
@robertmacdonald2735 2 жыл бұрын
I'm getting sound....that 475 power comes on smooth and steady....no dips...kudos to Dave, great informative content.
@DeBa1226
@DeBa1226 2 жыл бұрын
Brother, I couldn’t wait to catch this piece, I’ll watch it later tonight. BUT! First a couple questions, I went back and watched Diamond Dave (he is a Diamond in the rough man!) install and explain the “whys” around the Man O War Compensator in Secretariat… I mean Silverback. Lol. Man you got the two greatest race horses ever tied into your engine!! 🤣 I could not have imagined being so glued to an install of a compensator, but his explanation as to what allows for maximum performance, where guys miss it, in a way I could clearly understand, was genius….those guys nodding off in a MMI class have no idea what they’re missing out on! Question: What do you or Dave like better in the Man O War versus a Baker Compensator, if anything? And second question: I love the set up… Upgraded Compensator and Rekluse Torque Clutch (bullet proofing the bike as you said in an earlier vid)…. Did you also upgrade the transmission or still running stock? I’ve seen some recent vids on beefed up Compensator & Clutch, big hp & torque, wreaking havoc on stock transmission (maybe just for those really hot rodding. Sorry so long winded bro, could take notes fast enough, but had to run those Q’s by you. Can’t tell you how important and valuable this content you and Diamond Dave can share is, around these set-ups! Screw the Grammy’s last night bro! I’m too locked into your content! 🤣
@chrisyuhas1371
@chrisyuhas1371 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video showing the comparisons man I love it ! Looking forward to the next video !
@nickangione947
@nickangione947 2 жыл бұрын
You and Dyno Dave are awesome! I have a 124 build for my 19 slim scheduled in May with Dave and I am so pumped. Thank you for helping me find a good place to spend my money! Haha
@smitty655
@smitty655 2 жыл бұрын
Love your channel, been following you for about 6 months.... keep up the great content!!
@robertfagan8833
@robertfagan8833 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video.. love all the possibilities and numbers.. definitely would like to see the redshift 468 thrown into the mix also.. one thing for sure we know the 475 cam is incredible.. thanks looking forward to seeing the outcome
@jasonkimble8926
@jasonkimble8926 2 жыл бұрын
John, not playing around with this bike! 👍 . I enjoy videos like this, with comparing different cams.
@tommiller8714
@tommiller8714 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video with great technical noteworthy comments from Dave. To get the most, best numbers (and Curves)...The Cam choice has gotta match, be compatible with the Compression Ratio; and the Exhaust System has gotta match the combination of Cam & C.R. I ordered a complete S&S 465c Cam Chest Kit for my 2021RGS, 114 (Stage-1 now w/S&S 2-1 and Fuel Moto # FM3956 Air Cleaner; Dynojet Fuel Moto Map). Reason for 465 cam was desire for big low end torque. Now I'm considering the 475c cam. Hmmmm?
@freewheeler7232
@freewheeler7232 2 жыл бұрын
The bike sounds tough. It's a lot of great information. It really helped me understand a little more about how different cams work. Thanks brother for a great video. 👍
@kodyhalo2
@kodyhalo2 2 жыл бұрын
love the vids man i have a 2022 vivid black street bob and did a custom Whiplash Speed Company Slipstream seat and bassani ripper road rage 2 into 1 black exhaust. the ripper exhaust is not in yet but im looking forward to seeing how they sound . keep doing your thing man!
@steveghee4205
@steveghee4205 2 жыл бұрын
Great Info John! Nice Job.
@danielbates211
@danielbates211 2 жыл бұрын
Another great & informative video. Badass
@HOLYSHIFT
@HOLYSHIFT 2 жыл бұрын
Great video brother
@josephmirigliano8728
@josephmirigliano8728 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome John I can’t wait to see when it’s all done ride safe and enjoy ride safe and enjoy
@scottbeaston4631
@scottbeaston4631 2 жыл бұрын
Cool vid 😈 helps me narrow down the cam choice
@ocglide2566
@ocglide2566 2 жыл бұрын
It really is amazing how a cam change can make such an improvement on the M8. I put the Zippers Red Shift 468 in mine but I am using a Fuel Moto map with several autotune runs on the Power Vision bike runs great and has good power but I don't know my numbers. I had a 2007 Street Glide spent $3k on a big bore kit and tune to get to 102 HP, The bang for the buck really is great on the M8.
@B702K
@B702K 2 жыл бұрын
That 475 just thumps! Still going through break in on my 114, but when I go stage 2 it’s gotta be that S&S 475!
@davidmatias6239
@davidmatias6239 2 жыл бұрын
I guess you can’t never go wrong with the 475
@stephenuffindell
@stephenuffindell 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@MRrandory
@MRrandory 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a street bob 114 with a 475 cam with s&s slip ons and it’s loud, very solid and plenty of down low torque and top end power
@FLYANDRIDE15
@FLYANDRIDE15 2 жыл бұрын
Dave is the master! 💯🔥
@stephenuffindell
@stephenuffindell 2 жыл бұрын
Greet video thanks for sharing.
@Doomstrader
@Doomstrader 2 жыл бұрын
John, because of you I put this exact exhaust on my 2018 Softail slim, I always hated the Vance and Hines slip on it came with. Not only does it look amazing in Chrome as well it sounds amazing and really woke the bike up after tune! Thanks as always for the recommendations. Hope to see you at a bike and breakfast soon. Any chance your making a trip to Long Island again?
@Jim_Berry
@Jim_Berry 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic to see all of the comparisons. Could you ask Dave to give his thoughts on the Redshift 468? I’d really like to know how it compares to the S&S 475. Thanks!
@lococubaa
@lococubaa 2 жыл бұрын
Brother, you guys should check out the Wood 22xd. The idle chops like the 475 and its very strong on the mid to high rpm range. Love the videos!
@painsrides3616
@painsrides3616 2 жыл бұрын
LOL.. I knew in the beginning of the video you weren't going to be able to stick with the Woods 777 cam with those Hp \ Tg #'s ... especially knowing how much power is possible from the 114ci. I'm looking forward to how this turns out.
@mikelagrasta1507
@mikelagrasta1507 2 жыл бұрын
I am loving the bike in the start of the video!😘 lol
@hectorsantiago321
@hectorsantiago321 2 жыл бұрын
Both bikes sound good. Dam love the second bike sounds like a killer. 👍👍👍👍
@Zugzog69
@Zugzog69 2 жыл бұрын
Bro Love the bike!!!
@SteveTheGasMan
@SteveTheGasMan 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting he said he has to do more work with the 468 cam. Always heard it was a decent all around cam
@everette818
@everette818 2 жыл бұрын
I just had a 22XE put in my 19 slim. No dyno yet just a tune, but it pulls
@hanzyg5920
@hanzyg5920 Жыл бұрын
Great video,,from australia,,,im learning so much,,,im glad you are the one testing,,so we dont waste our money on rubbish,,great video,,i want to buy 114 breakout,,so 114 is ok,very hard and costly to get good bikes in australia,,you pay for it,,i like the 2022 breakout
@richardrussell500
@richardrussell500 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds great... but I am getting older and like the stock sound. With that said, enjoy :-)
@andrzejkierzkowski5082
@andrzejkierzkowski5082 2 жыл бұрын
Looks good .
@tylerchurchill197
@tylerchurchill197 2 жыл бұрын
Try the wood 22-xd cam! Get a little more power than the woods xe
@brianfargher1336
@brianfargher1336 2 жыл бұрын
I was wondering about that cam. The 22xe will be much better for that engine. But thank you for letting us know.
@adambulfinch5414
@adambulfinch5414 2 жыл бұрын
If you could I would try a rs 472 in. I put it in my 19 SGS with fuel moto stainless head pipes and S&S grand nationals and oh boy it moves and is a tq monster!
@blackedoutbandit
@blackedoutbandit 2 жыл бұрын
I have the fuel moto jackpot head pipe and Rinehart 4.5in slipons with fuel moto tuning baffles
@canttalk
@canttalk 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see the difference between that street Bob 475 cam and my breakout 475 cam. Dave says tire makes a difference well mine has the 240 tire I don't know what's on the street Bob. But I have same exhaust different air filter kit and probably different tuner since I have the powervison tuner and target tune.
@MRrandory
@MRrandory 2 жыл бұрын
Over here everyone is raving about the CR483 cam , seems to be a bolt in cam that works very well
@lylelurz6912
@lylelurz6912 2 жыл бұрын
What is the seat brand and model on the blue bike? Looks like great lower back support.
@vShowTime
@vShowTime 2 жыл бұрын
that s&s sounded beastly
@tank7358
@tank7358 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, I have a 2019 road glide 107, K&N cold air charger, Vance power dual head pipe and Rush racing 4.5 mufflers, I’m curious if I go with the 475 cam, do I need to beef up any other components?
@arthurnava4518
@arthurnava4518 2 жыл бұрын
That's bike should have 5 gallons tanks 😎
@user-qw3zt9vl4n
@user-qw3zt9vl4n 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like the stage 2 is the way to go for a good mid range upgrade on any motor. John what's the cost to do a stage 2 with tuning from Dyno Dave?
@EBT2arch
@EBT2arch 2 жыл бұрын
That sounds AWESOME!! On long trips with the Street Bob 3.5 gal tank, will you miss the larger tank of Silverback or does it not really matter because of how often you stop?
@arthurnava4518
@arthurnava4518 2 жыл бұрын
Should have been 5 gallon on that bike 😎
@stevencorry5790
@stevencorry5790 2 жыл бұрын
As a Kentucky boy....I'm a little cornfused....20(ish)HP gain but nothing if not a loss on Torque for the 777?
@johnsoto7511
@johnsoto7511 2 жыл бұрын
John what tuner are you using
@1247jcbs
@1247jcbs 2 жыл бұрын
Question: recently bought a street bob and thinking of doing a stage one upgrade full exhaust. Now, do I need to buy a tuner or I can just go to a Harley dealer for a dyno run?
@larryford9732
@larryford9732 2 жыл бұрын
Do you need a dyno tune when you go stage 2? I heard some dealers can't crack into the ecu on the new bikes?
@joesainato8051
@joesainato8051 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video and comparison. I’m guessing the 22XE sits rt on the 475s graph. It was close with the V&H that is inferior for power numbers..
@AmericanPatriot-cw9xe
@AmericanPatriot-cw9xe 2 жыл бұрын
but you gotta admit with the Vance n Hines the bike sound is amazing !
@joesainato8051
@joesainato8051 2 жыл бұрын
@@AmericanPatriot-cw9xe honestly I think there are several other exhaust systems that sound better. But that’s why there are so many options cuz everyone has there own personal preference
@lRaf_1
@lRaf_1 2 жыл бұрын
My 128ci street bob at the dyno is 130HP and 147TQ
@kersakjoci
@kersakjoci 2 жыл бұрын
What is the exact type of the seat, please?
@ejdtm
@ejdtm 2 жыл бұрын
What’s the intake close on the Woods 777?
@mrharleyuk7
@mrharleyuk7 2 жыл бұрын
John, did you run this dyno with a baffle installed? Or was the exhaust completely free flowing?
@CodyMcDonald89
@CodyMcDonald89 2 жыл бұрын
Well I enjoyed my ultra for 3 days lol has to go back to Harley one o ring on the push rod is leaking so have to redo that pushrod
@fourftr
@fourftr 2 жыл бұрын
Bummer I just watched a Harley Tech do a stage 2. He talked about that o ring on the push rod two ways of doing it. He puts it on the bottom rather than up top. When you put it up top you can easily pinch the oil ring.
@CodyMcDonald89
@CodyMcDonald89 2 жыл бұрын
@@fourftr hoping they can fix that one day I’m calling them tomorrow it’s a 90 mile ride for me so we’ll call and find ont
@davidcolby6661
@davidcolby6661 2 жыл бұрын
What’s with the giant dip
@darrenlingerfelt5879
@darrenlingerfelt5879 2 жыл бұрын
👍👍
@RobAshton44
@RobAshton44 2 жыл бұрын
Bro, I love what you did here!! their is no better explanation and demo then this on the internet today! I have the 475c cam with the 119 and love it but also wondered myself on what cam would work better. So far I made a great choice . Also can you ask Dave how he feels about power duals with svt boneshakers? I would love his opinion because I'm thinking of switching it up. Right now I have 123hp 133tq. Thanks brotha great great videi
@josephmiddleton8584
@josephmiddleton8584 2 жыл бұрын
Have the S&S 475 paired with the fullsac header and Rinehart 4.5. The power improvement is great.
@AmericanPatriot-cw9xe
@AmericanPatriot-cw9xe 2 жыл бұрын
I bet your sound on that bike is amazing !
@josephmiddleton8584
@josephmiddleton8584 2 жыл бұрын
@@AmericanPatriot-cw9xe It does. 😎 I love the way it sounds
@spoom937
@spoom937 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not getting any sound... maybe I'm too early lol
@user-fx4mq8kj4t
@user-fx4mq8kj4t 2 жыл бұрын
ЧУДО !СШЮ!
@stevencorry5790
@stevencorry5790 2 жыл бұрын
And another question since you were talking about people that may just want a small bump in numbers. Will the 475 make it so that other components will need upgraded?Springs,clutch,etc...? Looking to spice up my 114 Heritage but don't want to go crazy changing this..then this..then have to change more.
@canttalk
@canttalk 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2019 breakout m8 114 with the 475c cam kit and dk customs outlaw 578 air filter kit bassani 2-1 exhaust. I haven't done anything to the springs or anything like that I do have a powervison tuner and target tune. Got the tune emailed to me from dynojet themselves and it's fun to ride and I'm getting 51 mpg. Hopefully this helps you.
@stevencorry5790
@stevencorry5790 2 жыл бұрын
@@canttalk Appreciate the reply
@canttalk
@canttalk 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevencorry5790 you're welcome sir hope it helps.
@stevencorry5790
@stevencorry5790 2 жыл бұрын
@@canttalk 51mpg....that's impressive.Mine is stock(Reinhart slipons) and I haven't run any numbers but I figure I'm getting 35 ish. Not sure why but she does smell very rich...not sure if it's anything to do with it...or the problem with my right hand :-)
@canttalk
@canttalk 2 жыл бұрын
@@stevencorry5790 for some reason I can't post a picture of the mpg on here. But that's what my power vison screen is saying almost 52 mpg
@dr.h9309
@dr.h9309 2 жыл бұрын
That exhaust is mean
@johnburk5748
@johnburk5748 2 жыл бұрын
Going to paint those hand guards blue also?
@HOLYSHIFT
@HOLYSHIFT 2 жыл бұрын
Haha- I told him that too !
@johnburk5748
@johnburk5748 2 жыл бұрын
@@HOLYSHIFT Great minds, lol
@crvzer
@crvzer 2 жыл бұрын
Why on earth anyone purposefully mis-cam and engine knowing ahead of time the results will not be optimal? "I want to spend the money for a stage-2, but I just don't want that extra 10-15 HP and Torque!" - said literally no-one, ever.
@reggilbert8828
@reggilbert8828 2 жыл бұрын
😇👍🇬🇧
@user-qw3zt9vl4n
@user-qw3zt9vl4n 2 жыл бұрын
John did the name the blue bike yet?
@bradleylynn511
@bradleylynn511 2 жыл бұрын
@@CYCLEFANATIX the bike is fastback blue.. which reminds me of a mustang .. then you got the song mustang sally… so.. sally the street bob lol
@user-qw3zt9vl4n
@user-qw3zt9vl4n 2 жыл бұрын
@@bradleylynn511 Like those names Fast-Back
@user-qw3zt9vl4n
@user-qw3zt9vl4n 2 жыл бұрын
@@CYCLEFANATIX Blue Thumper because of the cam / Blue Thunder / Or just BLUE. Bradley has some good names.. Fast Back works 👍👍
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