Solar Powered Nissan Leaf - Connecting Solar Directly to EV Battery

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Innovative Sustainable Solutions

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3 жыл бұрын

Solar Powered Nissan Leaf - Connecting Solar Directly to EV Battery
In this video I expand on the different challenges involved with connecting the solar panels directly to the main car battery, which is something I am working towards.
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@realsolarcars
@realsolarcars 3 жыл бұрын
20:50 When a battery cell is replaced the voltage must match to keep the battery balanced. The battery voltage could change due to temperature or other factors, but in that case the voltage of all cells would change together. Thanks for the support.
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions 3 жыл бұрын
That makes sense about the module replacement. You deserve recognition, although it my motives are not entirely altruistic, lol. I need your talent and knowledge to help me take this project where we want it to go: Cars with frickin solar panels attached to them.
@BiblecrusaderGaming-ob7fr
@BiblecrusaderGaming-ob7fr 4 ай бұрын
So if i were able to get a generator and a inverter to output the correct voltage, I could use an adapter like mentioned in the video and so long as i shut off the generator before the car gets shut off it would work?
@pmacgowan
@pmacgowan 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it be nice if the manufacture's provided a low power DC charge port for < 2kw
@Turboactive
@Turboactive 3 жыл бұрын
Love it! The reason shade impacts solar panels so much is because the individual solar cells are all connected in series so the voltage drop of one has a large impact on the whole string.
@BeanieBots
@BeanieBots 8 ай бұрын
Fascinating experiment! You may be shaping the future of EVs
@rickinhawaii
@rickinhawaii 9 ай бұрын
This is the video I've been needing to watch. Very educational thanks
@harmanx.
@harmanx. 3 жыл бұрын
This video answered a few nagging questions -- thank you! I don't (yet) want to attach solar panels to my car -- but have often wished that I could buy a few (hopefully inexpensive) solar panels and wire them straight to my EV so that I could get a few extra miles of charge while it's just sitting there on a sunny day, doing nothing else for long stretches.
@greggg4011
@greggg4011 2 ай бұрын
There's a way you can do that, kind of talked about in the video. You can buy yourself a Sungzu or Yeti which stores about 1/15 of the battery power, and plug that into to main J1772 or whatever, on a not rainy day, and let it discharge. Problem is the older ones had an 800 cycles life, the new Li4s have 2000 to 6000 cycles. The cost? ~$550 per KW. ~800 for the 1500, and the Yeti 3000 was 1500 at Home Depot a few years ago but that wasn't Li4 yet. Charge the power stations from either your solar or your house outlet. The Sungzu is 33 lbs. The Yeti is 60. I almost did this experiment with the 1000 model in 2017 and a Honda Clarity with a 8KW battery. Would have required 8 back and forths from the apartment or solar.
@CampGareth
@CampGareth 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for running through the options. I'm looking at adding solar panels to a Citroen Ami since it's an ideal candidate. It's intended for short trips and gets 8 miles per kwh due to a low top speed so adding even 0.5kwh per day would be useful. It's also running off 48V so significantly safer to work with. My only concern is manufacturer warranty, I don't really want to cut holes in the battery pack within the warranty period.
@HappyGreenerWorld
@HappyGreenerWorld 3 жыл бұрын
Great video with facts and correct path to Solar charging ! Thanks for sharing !
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions 3 жыл бұрын
It's been a long road, but we are making some progress towards a version of this that is very cost effective ($1,000 price point is the goal), and will add range and viability to older EVs like the Leaf.
@ScrapKing73
@ScrapKing73 Жыл бұрын
Great video, and answered a lot of questions for me. One thing to note, some cars are designed for direct solar. For example, some versions of the Hyundai Ioniq 5 come with a solar roof, and I've seen videos showing it trickle-charging the high-voltage battery on cloudy days. The Leaf is not a candidate for a solar cell array being plugged right into the high voltage battery, but some cars are.
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions Жыл бұрын
True. Which also means there is already a convenient tie into the HV battery on the Ioniq that a vehicle moder could probably tap into without too much trouble. Given how cheap solar cells are, I really think they should be incorporated in every EV in some way
@ScrapKing73
@ScrapKing73 Жыл бұрын
@@InnovativeSustainableSolutions I totally agree. Hell, there's a role for solar cells to help keep the 12v battery topped-up in ICE cars, for that matter. So I'd incorporate them into *EVERY* car, if I had my way. :)
@paulkennett
@paulkennett 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! That's a good find. Jame's system looks very promising.
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions 3 жыл бұрын
It does! I kinda wanted this video to be a story of progress towards the goal of accessing the Leaf battery and expanding the capacity. Each chapter/clip was another brilliant tinkerer's progress towards this goal. I had to leave a few stories out for time sake, like this dude in New Zealand who made some cool looking Powerboots about a year back. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sKeefMmSp5Peg3k.html. think we as a group can come up with the tools needed to give these low end EVs the range neccessary to make them usable for people without much of a budget.
@paulkennett
@paulkennett 3 жыл бұрын
@@InnovativeSustainableSolutions Yeah - my project is basically a minor update to Leaf X-Pack system, so I think you got the threshold for inclusion about right. :)
@GEOsustainable
@GEOsustainable 6 ай бұрын
Tons of good info. I have lots of solutions for these common problems. Your efforts have helped me confirm.
@mrofnocnon
@mrofnocnon 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, thanks.
@nmosfet5797
@nmosfet5797 2 жыл бұрын
The EV already contains all the necessary electronics in the regenerative braking system for spurious charging of the main battery! The vehicle maker providing a solar DC IN port seems like a simple add-on for the EV electronics, compared to Solar->AC inverter->Charge controller->Car->DC converter->Battery way of doing it.
@adamharris5355
@adamharris5355 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great video, thanks for all of your work. Question (forgive me if you have answered this elsewhere): is there any benefit it installing a solar panel of around 160w (for e.g. a semi-flexible panel that can bond onto the roof) purely to charge the 12v battery under the bonnet / hood. will that in any way decrease the load on the traction battery due to air con use etc? thanks.
@doolittleranch8302
@doolittleranch8302 3 жыл бұрын
Great video!!!
@showme360
@showme360 3 жыл бұрын
The 2014 leaf on is bidirectional system so it’s a power wall on wheels, we aim to keep two leafs to allow us to optimise this approach! Your ideal would better used on a van or truck with a trailer which folds out into a solar array!
@JohnEnergy2012
@JohnEnergy2012 23 күн бұрын
Pre-charge resistor is to stop massive rush in currents due to a a bunch of inductive loads. Energize these components through a risistor saves the contractors from sparks ruining them.
@mac1abram
@mac1abram Жыл бұрын
Love the content. Why not trickle charge through the regen brake system. Thanks
@Dswagz
@Dswagz 11 ай бұрын
great video great ideas!
@marklundegren
@marklundegren 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the overview of porting roof panels to an EV battery. With electric vans and RVs coming to market, capable of supporting relatively large solar arrays, demand for vehicle solar self-charging should soar.
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions 3 жыл бұрын
I think it will too. Especially as prices continue to fall and cell efficiencies rise past 30%.
@NicholasLittlejohn
@NicholasLittlejohn 3 жыл бұрын
There is a solar 53 foot trailer, maybe a reefer, out there that a couple did.
@NicholasLittlejohn
@NicholasLittlejohn 3 жыл бұрын
@@InnovativeSustainableSolutions There are a bunch of used panels coming up for sale at $50 a panel or so. I'm near Austin if you'd like to do a group buy on a pallet.
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions 3 жыл бұрын
@@NicholasLittlejohn I might be able to jump in on that deal. Can you e-mail me the specifics? Lonestarezev at gmail.com
@acidburnforever
@acidburnforever 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Lots of information 👍. I have several ideas that I've been contemplating for a while, being that I bought the full traction battery of a BMW sold by battery hookup, I was going to the battery extender pack like you mentioned, by connecting it after the precharger directly to the main battery. After a lot of thinking I've decided to make a trailer solar charging station with the BMW battery and take my LEAF to a battery makeover and add potentially 11 or 12 bars at ace hybrids in los Angeles CA. Or I could buy a better LEAF and swap the battery? That doesn't make sense, maybe, but I like my car a lot. Okay... I still don't know what to do, I guess. Excellent video my friend!
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! First off check your battery from battery hookup. They definitely overpromised me on some batteries, and were completely unapologetic when I pointed this out to them. See my "Leaf Module Capacity Test" for the story on that. I'll check out Ace Hybrids, that sounds very interesting and maybe your best option depending on price. About 2 dozen people have independently asked me about the solar trailer, but I can't find evidence that anyone has ever built one. I'm hoping to change that. I'm working on plans for a 3 battery (degraded 24kwh batts on the aftermarket), 800 watts of solar, mobile powerwall on wheels in a small utility trailer that connects to the Leaf. Aiming for 150 miles of range. That video should be out in the next month. If you get started first please share your progress here.
@acidburnforever
@acidburnforever 3 жыл бұрын
Innovative Sustainable Solutions I purchased 2 whole batteries and they are up to par to what they were advertising on the website (thankfully). One I'm using for an DIY EV 96v nominal. The other one is the one I want to use in the solar charging trailer 48v with 8000w split phase mppt off grid 4- 300w solar panels. I'm able to make 7 packs of 48v. I'll have 9- 3s 2p packs left for something else. I'm thinking on using 30a Dali bms. Should be enough, no? Still learning. Hopping for a 26 or 27kw if my math is not wrong 😁. Are you on any fb group? I'll be posting on diy evs group once I'm done.
@unclespider314
@unclespider314 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, I admire your spirit. Real good job on this project. Thanks very much for the link to James! You might also consider powering the "climate control" while parked out on hot days. Keep up the good work. Looking forward to your next installment. "Bonus question": how many watts, measured at the battery terminals is required to move a Leaf at about 5mph on level road, no wind?
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks bud, appreciate it. Very few watts regarding your question. I'd guess around 600 for the electric motor, 250 in passive draw for the vehicle's carious cpu's and electronics. Still the draw would be higher than the amount of power you could probably produce using on board solar.
@DalasEVRepair
@DalasEVRepair 3 жыл бұрын
Love the suneater! If you ever decide to get a replacement battery, hit me up for a free CAN-bridge, that way you can upgrade to a newer 24/30/40/62kWh battery!
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions 3 жыл бұрын
I have a new 11 bar 24 kwh battery in a Leaf parked out back right now :) @38:28. I do have an upcoming project that I may need your expertise for though. It will be crazy, (if I can get funding) 3 Leaf batteries in parallel, in a solar powerwall on wheels, connected to the battery in the car using Shonoiki's open pack method. It would be awesome if we can get some software/hardware that would get the cars computer to accurately predict vehicle range for multiple batteries connected behind the Junction Block. I am getting the build images rendered currently, hopefully have a video out on this in the next 3 weeks.
@DalasEVRepair
@DalasEVRepair 3 жыл бұрын
@@InnovativeSustainableSolutions I wrote the comment before watching the whole vid, congrats on the new Leaf! I actually experimented with adding more capacity to a LEAF battery, I have some simple code that makes the GOM behave a bit better: github.com/dalathegreat/Nissan-Leaf-Bruteforce-Upgrade/ Some people have improved on this, but ultimately you need another current sensor to count the energy going into the extender battery, so that you can accurately get the correct miles to the GOM. Some things though, I tend to shy away from extender batteries, since there are many risks involved. I live in a place with tight safety regulations, so extender batteries automatically become a big no-no. Even though I'm an electrical engineer, I wouldn't count on myself to be able to make a safe enough system. When you add extender batteries outside the battery, you modify the isolation resistance measurement, and can trigger a fault code this way. Also if you add extra batteries, you 100% need a second set of contactors. The system needs to be able to cut power at both sides original/extender in the event of a failure. I could ramble on about all the things you need to make it safer, but a short youtube comment isn't enough. Send me a message if this project becomes serious!
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions 3 жыл бұрын
@@DalasEVRepair I just binged your last 5 videos. Very neat stuff, and you're good at explaining it. I will definitely be a customer and showcase your work at some point. Not a whole lot of safety regulations in Texas, it's kinda a free-for-all here. Do you not believe a 200A fuse at both terminals of the extender battery would suffice for safety?
@joshseal2000
@joshseal2000 3 жыл бұрын
This video was so informative! I had an idea last night to create a solar carport for my Mini Cooper SE and I'd trying to figure out the most simple way to do it. I'd really like to avoid needing a battery buffer like you have, but I also don't want to dig into the vehicles battery electronics. Because I could potentially add 600 watts of solar to the roof of the carport I'm hoping I could reduce the size of the battery buffer needed, but I hadn't thought about the wear and tear that could be caused by starting and stopping charging - as you described in this video. Really helpful! I'll have to keep thinking about a viable solution here and welcome any thoughts you have in regards to a system that could have many more solar panels.
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Josh, I'm glad this video helped steer you in the right direction. Unfortunately, at this time, I can't see a way to achieve sustained off grid EV charging without a decent sized battery bank. Keep in mind that a properly cooled battery bank can last 1000s of cycles, and it will be a life saver if the grid goes down for a few days. It can also be built up 1 battery at a time, in parallel, over months or years, as you can afford it, and become an investment that will offer years of value and security to you. I will be doing some videos on building a $100/kwh safe powerwalls in the nearish future.
@ROGERWALDMAN
@ROGERWALDMAN 2 жыл бұрын
great video !
@farmerbold1144
@farmerbold1144 2 жыл бұрын
"Necessity is the mother of invention." :-)
@bocadelcieloplaya3852
@bocadelcieloplaya3852 3 жыл бұрын
You using the secondary battery to charge the main battery at intervals is along the lines of what I was thinking of trying.
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions 3 жыл бұрын
It is the fastest, easiest way to accomplish portable solar charging. I'm not giving up on building a circuit board/component for myself and others that will eliminate the need for aux batteries/charge controller/inverter. But until we get that figured out, this system will do.
@Foxtrotwilconiner1969
@Foxtrotwilconiner1969 3 жыл бұрын
@@InnovativeSustainableSolutions trailers with back up power stations located close by
@NicholasLittlejohn
@NicholasLittlejohn 3 жыл бұрын
The black LEAF is likely like mine, a 2011 that got the Lizard pack upgrade after 2015 or so 👏🏼. Did you get the pack swapped and did it need CAN communication adjustment to recognize it? I'm working on the same thing here.
@bui340
@bui340 2 жыл бұрын
What do you think about connecting solar via mppt to the 12 volt start battery and then let that charge the high voltage battery via an added inverter and a j1772 cabel? I'm aware of the losses from things like cables and inverters (both the chargingcables' inverter aswell as the extra external inverter Im thinking about adding). Will the losses be too much? If the original starter battery is not sufficient then maybe that can be replaced by an agm deep cycle battery?
@Joeycombss
@Joeycombss 2 жыл бұрын
What would you think about doing something like this on a plug in hybrid like the ford cmax energi? It has full ev mode for about 20 miles on a secondary battery located in the trunk of the car, and has a normal hybrid setup under the hood? I believe ford even had a cmax solar energi concept car as well.
@nerys71
@nerys71 9 ай бұрын
You can generate something more power than those solar panels are collecting those flexible panels are some of the least efficient panels around if you were to hard mount to 400 watt panels up there you could probably get 6 or 700 w out of two panels. I got to say though those slide out wings are freaking awesome
@phillippinter7518
@phillippinter7518 Жыл бұрын
Any updates on creating this system you talked about at the end? This one you speak of that gets a few miles a day?
@IrinaJerrett-js9bs
@IrinaJerrett-js9bs 2 ай бұрын
Just bought a flex solar panel which will give a total of 32000 watts (4 panels). I will be going to put on my Nissan Leaf directly to the battery I will be glad to see a detailed video on how to do it. your video did not provide it .can you do another video with details thank you
@ProppFish
@ProppFish 2 ай бұрын
You could have a front slide out panel that also shades most of the windscreen as an added bonus
@jonesbjj
@jonesbjj Ай бұрын
Add a tilt to the extended panels to make direct contact with the setting of the sun to increase efficiency.
@zygmuntkuzminski8312
@zygmuntkuzminski8312 2 жыл бұрын
nice video
@ezeJeff
@ezeJeff 5 ай бұрын
Have you tried an EcoFlow as a buffer to charge your car
@rhmagalhaes
@rhmagalhaes 3 жыл бұрын
1) Canada is leading in EV hacking, there are a few companies that already have their own boards and do battery swaps from the old leaf with the new leaf batteries. Pretty cool. 2) When adding solar panels to the doors, make sure to protect them against dents caused by other doors or shopping carts :( 3) If you lose 2 more bars on your battery, it will be the time to DIY the battery swap and hacking. Awesome job as usual. Great interview. Thank you!
@rhmagalhaes
@rhmagalhaes 3 жыл бұрын
LOL. I wrote befor watching the deals... Congrats on your new buddy.
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions 3 жыл бұрын
Canada IS rockin the EV hacking. I skimmed an article about a shop up there that had figured out how to unlock Performance mode on people's Teslas. It was hacking the car and "stealing" the software upgrade and underbidding Tesla and selling it to people. Very interesting stuff. It's wierd to watch Tesla go from being the underdog you were rooting for to "The Man" sueing little indie hacker shops.
@mjk8019
@mjk8019 3 жыл бұрын
@@InnovativeSustainableSolutions I am working on a different solution with cooperation with muxsan. The goal is to hack the Leaf BMS to charge at low current. The current then is matched to the solar output current. So you need just a small battery to for the initial handshake until Leaf BMS will reduce the current. But your solution seems even better. Keep up the great work! Haven't missed a video!
@chandlerhomes2475
@chandlerhomes2475 Жыл бұрын
How is this project going?
@tinujatinpatel
@tinujatinpatel 2 жыл бұрын
Have you considered the chademo connector. It's dc fast charging. All we need is the chademo charger supplied by solar dc.
@alanrobinson2229
@alanrobinson2229 2 жыл бұрын
Can you charge direct from solar panel array in garden? Batter is DC,so no inverter needed?
@miketiong8441
@miketiong8441 10 ай бұрын
Diy ideas sometimes have merits, but need knowledge to the internal of the car requirement too
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely correct. That was definitely my shortcoming
@jestronixhanderson9898
@jestronixhanderson9898 3 жыл бұрын
Best I’ve come up with is taking care of the 12v system on the leaf. I think 100- 200w going into a large 12v bank for all 12v ancillaries could save a heap from the main pack during normal use. Every time I look at leaf spy it’s chewing 200 to 400w etc while the car is on. Also losses caused by aerodynamic impact of roof racks etc makes me think surface mount panels are the way to go. I also want to think of a way of cooling the car when it’s not in use and in the sun, this could be by way of fan vents etc, saves energy on the Ac when you return to the car and have to cool the air down etc. all these savings can easy be offset though, inverters , panels , modifications all cost money. So far for me , charging during the day off our house solar seems to be winning.
@jestronixhanderson9898
@jestronixhanderson9898 3 жыл бұрын
Looking at this further, the issue is the leaf wants to charge and run all the accessories when it’s on. I’m looking for a way to trick the leaf into thinking the 12v battery is full and doesn’t need charge. This way you could ensure it pulls power from the solar and the 12v batteries, I’m guessing fans , pumps, accessories pull a fair hit of power per drive. Maybe a kWh or more per drive ?
@SaSaaVirus
@SaSaaVirus Жыл бұрын
Im using a ecoflow mini, to charge my smart fortwo ev. Dont have a solar panel(s) tho. Since the car roof is so small. Even have a cable to charge the ecoflow at the charging station while charging my car Edit: I bougth a 240v 6a charger and I have solar panels on my shed now.
@jimgallagher6215
@jimgallagher6215 9 ай бұрын
I have 3000 watts generated from a portable solar carpet but cannot run directly into EV charter using 1772 or CCS. What did you use to get the power to recognize power at 720 watts. You pushed a button to engage charger… what was that?
@aftonline
@aftonline Жыл бұрын
It seems to me that if you connected enough solar cells in series to get up to 400V that would be the simplest way to trickle charge an EV through the DC port. I don't know if anyone has tried this, but that's what I'd be looking at.
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions Жыл бұрын
The voltage of pretty much all solar cells is .57 volts. So you would need somewhere around 700 to get up to 400v. You usually want to aim a little higher than the max voltage of the battery because it is the difference in voltage that charges. So 430v would be a good number to shoot for. I believe the Lightyear, and Aptera EVs do this
@theyearofvision
@theyearofvision 3 жыл бұрын
Hi can I hook up a car alternater from a 12 v charge to the battery with a electric motor .?
@007fbi7
@007fbi7 6 ай бұрын
Roof folding solar panels, are they the future of cars? After unfolding, it can achieve 1500-2000 watts of solar charging power, with an average daily replenishment range of 30-50 miles.
@Tore_Lund
@Tore_Lund 3 жыл бұрын
Now we are talking. This is the way to go. Solar> batteries > Inverter is heavy and wasteful! However running high voltage solar is also tricky: Having 700 cells in series, require that they all get irradiated equally, or your voltage drops off. Individual lower voltage panels are more resilient to partial shading. Ideally you want as high voltage as practically possible. Then use an industrial efficient boost DC/DC converter, which is much more efficient than household inverters. You can possibly do without a MPPT too, because the vehicle battery pack only has a 30V or so difference between 10% and 100% SOC, so your panels will be kept in the sweet spot easily by the DC/DC, and don't use a bank of lead acid batteries (why would you need batteries to charge batteries?). For controlling the charging, bypass the vehicle charger, it easily uses 250W just to be turned on, but use some glue logic and a seperate small precharge and contactor circuit to connect to the battery directly, i.e. Arduino, to cut charging when you reach the end of the CC phase, so the charging stops when you are at around 80% SOC. That way you'll get 85-90% of the power in the panels into your battery. (you are not required to buy special gloves! That only applies to certified electricians working professionally. A pair of leather or heavy duty Nitrile gloves are just as insulating as a $100 pair of gloves with the right stamps.)
@user-hg2tk3xj9y
@user-hg2tk3xj9y 5 ай бұрын
When they actually make an EV that I can just plug into an array of panels with none of that AC/DC conversion loss....I will consider buying one.
@user-hg2tk3xj9y
@user-hg2tk3xj9y 5 ай бұрын
Took 100yrs, but Edison was right...DC is the way to go....we need to rethink Tesla AC out of the equation.
@birdiewolf3497
@birdiewolf3497 11 ай бұрын
What about the panels to batteries to charging skipping the inverter for dc fast charging?
@user-vk5ws3jl1l
@user-vk5ws3jl1l 21 күн бұрын
Nice setup man. Is it possible to put a mppt solar regulator between your EV main battery, the solar panels and backup battery.? That would be a great solution.
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions 13 күн бұрын
There are some people that have pulled it off. They didn't leave much of a how-to manual though
@TomHaws
@TomHaws 2 жыл бұрын
This was very helpful. James' web presence seems a bit sketchy. Is there somebody I could pay to set me up with a solar charging system for Nissan Leaf? I am a civil engineer in AZ at an apartment and I don't drive much. So I think a solar system could be good for me.
@matthewcanavan8275
@matthewcanavan8275 2 жыл бұрын
id like to see How you wired this to the drive battery and how you ran the wires
@johnycash8291
@johnycash8291 8 ай бұрын
You need to get 700w, 144 cell panels. Size 1.3 meter x 2.4 meter. You can put 3 x 700 w = 2100W. One permanent, 2 slides out. That should be enough to directly charge your EV.
@ps7549
@ps7549 11 ай бұрын
Hello! Any progress on this project?
@chucknutbraker
@chucknutbraker 2 жыл бұрын
Can you charge your battery as the same time as charging your car?
@xboxice2005
@xboxice2005 Жыл бұрын
where do you get the things for the wheels?
@mayflowerlash11
@mayflowerlash11 3 жыл бұрын
By attaching leads into the battery pack behind the resistor don't you by-pass the resistor which is designed to be another safety device. If the resistor fuse is blown there is another route that the high voltage can electrify the car outside the battery. Causeing the risk of electrocution.
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. You would HAVE to have fuses at some point on the leads from the HV pack so that in the event of a short, power from the pack is cut.
@humstrumbangtwang
@humstrumbangtwang Жыл бұрын
I’m in the U.K. I’d love to charge my Nissan Leaf with mobile solar panels. Why not put a small wind turbine on the roof also?
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions Жыл бұрын
I thought a bit about that. The biggest hurdle is the need for rapid removal and installation. I dont think you want to drive around at highway speeds with a wind turbine on top of the vehicle. That's gonna come with a whole host of problems. So you need a turbine with decent surface area that can fold up quickly and compactly for storage, but also be mounted quickly and very securely for high wind days. It would compliment the solar beautifully, but definitely does present some engineering challanges
@DalasEVRepair
@DalasEVRepair 3 жыл бұрын
I've experimented with modifying the CAN-messages going to the charger, it is possible to run 500W as a minimum level (not that it helps much). The LEAF itself draws about 300W when the coolant pumps are on and inverter/charger is active, so it pays off to charge the car with as high amperage as possible to increase efficiency (16>10>6)
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions 3 жыл бұрын
Thats incredible. I really need to learn more about the computer language of the Leaf for some future projects I want to tackle. Please let me know if there is a good starting point for learning how to work with it. I lean toward a lower amperage for solar charging as it reduces the cycling of the buffer battery (matching charging amperage as close as possible to solar input wattage). But the information on the 300watt syphon is very handy.
@DalasEVRepair
@DalasEVRepair 3 жыл бұрын
@@InnovativeSustainableSolutions I still think it is better if you switch to a faster charger as soon as the system allows for it. Here is some quick math on the two extremes 120V 12A = 77.5% efficient (Charge Power in: 1.451kW Power to Leaf Battery: 1.125kW Total Power Lost: 326w) 240V 16A = 90.9% efficient (Charge Power in: 3.756kW Power to Leaf Battery: 3.414kW Total Power Lost: 342w) As you can see, a huge amount of power is lost by L1 charging instead of L2 charging. Even a smidge faster L1 charger will do better. But I do understand that you need to match the solar input and don't deplete the batteries. You can learn more about the messages that are travelling on the EV-CAN of the leaf, by checking out this database that I compiled github.com/dalathegreat/leaf_can_bus_messages Best way to learn and try out new things with the leaf, is to get a CAN-bridge and start playing with modifying data and seeing what happens. The Leaf is very fault resistant, so it isn't really possible to damage it this way.
@alfan8252
@alfan8252 2 жыл бұрын
How many miles do you loose in drag?
@DarkslayerNinja
@DarkslayerNinja 3 жыл бұрын
Is it possible that you can convert Nissan murano?
@JohnEnergy2012
@JohnEnergy2012 Жыл бұрын
Contractors are fine bruh... there is also a precharche proces w. a 3rd smaller contactor, the main contractors never spark and the mechanical wear is neglect able.
@michaelchownyk5255
@michaelchownyk5255 2 жыл бұрын
I love the idea but if you short out 400 hundred volts DC you’ll get a giant arc and possibly severely burned or killed from high-voltage electrocution shock. A shock like that will cauterize the blood inside your arteries and it won’t be a good outcome. I have a solar powered electric car and My 20 kw array is sitting in my backyard. I have a 2007 Uplander and the alternator burned out so instead I put a 230 watt solar module on the roof with a secondary battery and it works pretty good .
@Foxtrotwilconiner1969
@Foxtrotwilconiner1969 3 жыл бұрын
I have always wondered about a light trailer that you could pick up with batteries that would extend vechile
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions 3 жыл бұрын
Here's a link to a video I did on exactly that. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nJuAirqUya7FYYE.html
@Foxtrotwilconiner1969
@Foxtrotwilconiner1969 3 жыл бұрын
@@InnovativeSustainableSolutions Yes it’s a shame Nissan will not try to work with you to extend these cars life.We have become a throw away society.We had washing machine for twenty years and fringe for twenty years. 7-10 years if your lucky now
@katydid5088
@katydid5088 Жыл бұрын
​@@Foxtrotwilconiner1969 Half of this is that the kids don't generally work on their own stuff anymore. (Not to say that I wouldn't like more things to be durable) but reuse and repair are the biggest 2 solutions to excessive waste that no one seems to talk about. People give fridges away or dump them because they can't repair them or the parts and hours are as exspensive as a new one. I'm not into paying skilled tradesmen less than their worth, anymore than I like the idea of throwing something away needlessly.
@douglasalanthompson
@douglasalanthompson 3 жыл бұрын
Please work together to create a kit. I was looking into the rockpals 300wh packpack/inverter with its foldable solar panels, but it doesn't have enough amperage to start the j1772. Too bad, as it would have been. Sub $500 way to solar charge a leaf (we have 2 Leaf Pluses and used to have 2013 Leaf). Looking forward to your 2nd Leaf projects.
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, 300wh wont cover it, even with a 600 watt panel array. You just rip through the battery to quick and then run into the contactor rapid open/close issue. I know Emile @ Power Electronics Blog, has already figured out how to manipulate the contactors as needed. Now we just need an easier access than cracking open the battery. I think a combo of Emile and Leaf Xpack's methods would be the ticket. No HV splicing needed. Just plug and charge.
@mjk8019
@mjk8019 3 жыл бұрын
@@InnovativeSustainableSolutions Hehe, everyone knows Emile nowadays :D
@thebigmann81
@thebigmann81 Жыл бұрын
What is the name of company that does custom solar panels??
@Draco_Arcane
@Draco_Arcane 2 жыл бұрын
I don't drive very much average is a few miles a week. I am very interested in in mounting solar panels to an EV
@joeabad5908
@joeabad5908 3 жыл бұрын
New Sub here... I like your content, it will help me with my EV coversion project..
@dragonlover1
@dragonlover1 2 жыл бұрын
So does it charge the batteries while the car is in use? Or is it that you have to turn the car off for it to charge? The reason I ask is I commute for 3 hours 2 1/2 of that is sitting or barely rolling on the high way it would be nice if you can keep your batteries up while just sitting.
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions 2 жыл бұрын
It only charges while the car is parked. In order to charge while driving, you have to open the battery pack and connect 400v lines directly to the battery, behind the vehicle contactors. This is a tricky procedure, but can be done
@dragonlover1
@dragonlover1 2 жыл бұрын
@@InnovativeSustainableSolutions ok. I just wasn't sure if it was even possible or safe.
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions 2 жыл бұрын
@@dragonlover1 If your going to work around 400VDC power you have to have some experience working with electrical systems, and be VERY mindful of safety precautions, or it is not safe. But it can, and has successfully been done by several people that I know of. I may try it someday, but for now the approach I use is much more easy, beginner friendly, and safe.
@TheBlairHouseProject
@TheBlairHouseProject Жыл бұрын
Re: discussion of contactors 16 minutes in.. if your system is barely making 500W max (an more often much less) then the arcing damage to a heavy duty contactor will be minimal. The contactors are only really eaten up by the electric arc if they are shut off under high load (heavy amperage draw). Zero to five amps of this discussion will have very little effect.
@chadellett4696
@chadellett4696 3 жыл бұрын
do you have Diodes installed on each panel because you running in parallel, not series?
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions 3 жыл бұрын
My understanding is that the junction boxes of the panels have diodes in them to prevent current backflow.
@MatthewEng2593
@MatthewEng2593 3 жыл бұрын
i've always thought that nissan have missed a trick, not putting a socket in the boot, to charge from a genny or solar.
@zer0nix
@zer0nix 2 жыл бұрын
Why didnt you have the rack open up towards the front and back to shade the windshield instead of the sides?
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions 2 жыл бұрын
The slides would have to be very long. This creates several problems. (1) A 50" extender slide is a rare, and therefore expensive. (2) When wind blows on these panels it exerts a lift force. This torque is proportionate to the length of the slide from the attachment point. A longer slide = a longer lever arm = a greater chance that a windstorm will bend the slides.
@ZachariaZuehlke
@ZachariaZuehlke 3 жыл бұрын
You make me feel lucky to have 8/12 bars lol. My gasser has been in the shop and got delayed even more so I’m doing everything I can to do as many instacart batches in my leaf as I can in a day. Keeping it simple for now by removing the “mud flaps” and airing up the tires to 45 psi etc. anyone know any other cheap and easy mods that increase efficiency for leafs?
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions 3 жыл бұрын
Aerowheels, may add .1-.2 miles/kwh. Increase your following distance, drive without having to use your brakes. Set your charger to run for the last 20 minutes to full right before you depart. That helps a lot. Sell the gasser and buy some batteries and an inverter, lol. People like you are why I started this channel. There are 300k + Leafs out there that will wind getting retired by people who can't afford Tesla's, if we don't solve this battery problem.
@ZachariaZuehlke
@ZachariaZuehlke 3 жыл бұрын
@@InnovativeSustainableSolutions I've been able to tame my lead foot and maintain 4.5+ mi/kwh around town even with some occasional 55mph highway driving, but I've already noticed the difference of maybe .2 mi/kwh. I think I'll keep my old Focus ZX3 though I'd miss my shifty boi and nobody would really give me enough money to justify selling it tbh. It's been a reliable car it's just that some idiot who drove it blew out one of the brake lines about an hour and a half from my house so it's at a repair shop that's really busy and really far away lol. The other problem with your solution is that I kinda need the trunk space since I'm using it for grocery delivery and when I'm not working it's carting around a family of 4 including our dog lol.
@ZachariaZuehlke
@ZachariaZuehlke 3 жыл бұрын
@@InnovativeSustainableSolutions but I've been wanting to do the aerowheels for sure just don't have a 3d printer handy lol
@ZachariaZuehlke
@ZachariaZuehlke 3 жыл бұрын
@@InnovativeSustainableSolutions also, I'm glad that the aftermarket is taking solid steps towards making battery replacements/upgrades cheaper and less expensive.. We just got our leaf avout a month ago since a dealer relatively close to us was willing to sell it for 5k out the door and we jumped at the chance to own a ev because it's perfect for an around town car for my wife and I save a lot of money using it for the vast majority of my trips for work. Where I live, it's nice to have a dino juice burner as a backup since we only have L1 charging from the garage and L2 and L3 is non-existent unless you wanna drive 30-50 miles to the next town lol.
@NicholasLittlejohn
@NicholasLittlejohn 3 жыл бұрын
@@InnovativeSustainableSolutions can 3D print wheel covers now
@master09ace
@master09ace 3 жыл бұрын
What is the total range you get from your battery setup. I have a spark ev and would love to get a few more miles.
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions 3 жыл бұрын
I love these 12v Valence batteries. They have incredible longevity, safety, and resale value. New they have a capacity of 1.7 kwh, that's normally around 1.2-1.5 used. Your spark gets at least 3.6 miles/kwh (over 4 if you drive chill) so each valence battery would give you an extra 4.68 miles MINIMUM. I would recommend a bank of three or four for you. My battery setup would give your Spark around 20 extra miles of range/day without any solar -just from the batteries.
@matthewzizzo4586
@matthewzizzo4586 3 жыл бұрын
@@InnovativeSustainableSolutions Brilliant .
@mathiaspettersen3966
@mathiaspettersen3966 2 жыл бұрын
hey how can i find the wire that will charge the 12v battery in the leaf becuse im thinking to instal 100w solar into the 12v battery becuse i think i will gain miles by doing only this
@panorama4962
@panorama4962 Ай бұрын
Not that many miles though, because after you're done driving there's nothing consuming power out of 12V battery. And while you are driving, the 12V battery is charged from the traction battery anyway.
@tictac9367
@tictac9367 Жыл бұрын
I didnt watch the full video yet but how much did all that cost
@lynleysanders6713
@lynleysanders6713 Жыл бұрын
Do you help people convert their cars? I need help.
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions Жыл бұрын
Yes, but my knowledge ends at how to use on board solar and batteries to generate power. If youre talking about doing a full ICE to EV conversion, that's outside of my area of expertise
@discoverkenya
@discoverkenya 6 ай бұрын
Oh cool, finally! A fitting car for the name Nissan Sunny 😂
@benjaminhanke79
@benjaminhanke79 7 ай бұрын
If only one of these solar hardware manufacturers would build a DC charger thats powered by one of their power stations and has a chademo or CCS outlet that would be the best solution.
@lennieadi
@lennieadi 3 жыл бұрын
So is it possible for a wiz kid to build a dc fast charger from solar that a ev would recognise. Basically copying the fast chargers at the mall but diy version from a generator or solar system.
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Your problem would be getting enough panels to power the fast charger. Lv 2 fast chargers supply power at anywhere from 3kw to 8kw. Thats a LOT of solar panels. For reference the array on my solar car is 0.75kw.
@lennieadi
@lennieadi 3 жыл бұрын
@ Innovative Sustainable Solutions. Ok. Thanks for reply. Could a wind turbine be hooked up with Dc step down rectifier with a safety system cut off in place DIRECT TO EV in an off grid situation? Would love to see this experiment.
@collenmakore6273
@collenmakore6273 2 жыл бұрын
awosome I need this type of car please
@o.s.m.7957
@o.s.m.7957 2 жыл бұрын
If I plug solar panel directly into 12V outlet (cig lighter outlet), will that charge the battery? Please don’t laugh… I am learning. I have a Kia Soul EV 2017. I want to mount 2 small 50W sunpower units simply to trickle add juice basically. Sunpower units have charge controller built-in.
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions 2 жыл бұрын
That's not a stupid question. I don't know if plugging the panel into the cig lighter will charge the 12v. I know it won't if the vehicle is not turned on. A better way to do this is to run the +/- of the panel straight to the +/- of the 12v battery under the hood. You just need to check the voltage output of the panel with a multimeter and make sure it doesn't go over 15v or so with the 12v fully charged. Either will unfortunately be of limited effectiveness. The DC-DC converter has a tendency to push current into the 12v with such gusto, there just isn't a lot of time or discharged capacity for the solar panel on the hood to charge the battery. I know people have done this though. Here's a link to stories of people who have done something comparable www.lensunsolar.com/blog/
@ollyomm
@ollyomm 3 жыл бұрын
Can you double check the link to James channel? Seems to be incorrect
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions 3 жыл бұрын
Its working for me. 'Real Solar Cars' is the YT channel name.
@SnowingNapalm
@SnowingNapalm 10 ай бұрын
Solar power wall on wheels sounds suspiciously like an average solar trailer 😂 but don't let that stop you, doit just DO IT ❤
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely just a solar trailer, with a largeish 400v battery bank. Not crazy complicated, I would have had so much fun with this build! Total honesty though, I have sold my Leaf, and will probably never get around to doing this unless someone wants help building thier own. The most ambitious build Ill be doing in the next few years is a DIY off grid solar power system for a house. Prob 48v like hundreds of other KZfaqrs have done. 🫤
@gregstafford2155
@gregstafford2155 2 жыл бұрын
A better simple efficient way is solar direct to battery using a DC voltage booster and one big diode on the positive terminal of the battery. This should not interrupt the car std charge system
@bui340
@bui340 2 жыл бұрын
What do you think about the Prius?
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions 2 жыл бұрын
Great car. You used to be able to get a used one for around $4k, before covid sent vehicle prices through the roof. I prefer all electric, just because it's simpler. A hybrid is a half-measure, but not having a range-restriction obviously has merit. Sad to see Toyota abdicate it's EV program.
@bui340
@bui340 2 жыл бұрын
@@InnovativeSustainableSolutions Pros that I think of: Low gasmilage "AC-sleepmode" Stealthy overnighter Thanks for charing your knowledge. I'm planing to put solar on my Prius as well. Would be nice to be able to burn as little gas as possible while traveling.
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions 2 жыл бұрын
@@bui340 You will not be the first person to do a sleeper/vanlife project with a Prius. I know a guy who made his Leaf into a sleeper. He plugs it into a free public charging station at night. It tops off the battery and then runs climate control w/out cycling the battery. The problem with climate control in an ICE car is the engine idle time trashes the engine. 6 to 8 hours a night of just idling is not what they were built for. Consider going full project car, and putting a window unit (and battery bank) in her so you can kill the engine at night.
@bui340
@bui340 2 жыл бұрын
@@InnovativeSustainableSolutions I've got the plug in version. Hopefully it wont idle that many times per night. Yes a heat pump in the window is an option. It could be kind of stealthy using black mesh to hide it from people outside the car.
@ezeJeff
@ezeJeff 5 ай бұрын
I don't know if you do but don't fast charge older Leafs
@Alex-vz2jz
@Alex-vz2jz 6 ай бұрын
Remove and replace parts with carbon fiber or fiberglass 😂 I want to buy a leaf and remove the motor and swap it into my car. Since i like modified cars it'll be as light as possible for maximum efficiency 😅 For now it's an idea since I've found out i can run my manual transmission no problem. No clutch but still its a manual
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions 5 ай бұрын
If you search you can find videos of people who have completely separated the drive train and battery from the car, and the whole system still runs fine. The Leaf is definitely the best choice for a modder, because they didnt load the damn thing down with 1000 tampering sensors like Tesla did. Its hackable
@tarassu
@tarassu 8 ай бұрын
Solar panel creates massive drag that steals more than gives.
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions 8 ай бұрын
What equation for drag are you using in your calculations? What cross sectional area are you inputting for the panels? Do you thick the panels I used are? (.2 inch). I observed a 5% loss in overall effeciency of the vehicle, and I demonstrated up to a 25 mile (50%) increase in range
@danielbell230
@danielbell230 Жыл бұрын
Here’s the 2023 version kzfaq.infoAYMa95lZtb4?feature=share
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions Жыл бұрын
Love it! You can drape a 175watter across the windshield too very easily and tie it into your existing setup using a 3-1 parallel connector. The roof rack works even better but is several hours of work to install and perfect. Nice work dude
@slicedbread9486
@slicedbread9486 3 жыл бұрын
Would you mind if you can toast me, Sam?
@JohnArmstrongPhotography
@JohnArmstrongPhotography 2 жыл бұрын
A couple questions, it’s not a criticism and I have no personal experience with EVs. But aren’t those panels on the roof of your car, and even more panels, better off on the roof of your home that charge large capacity batteries throughout the day at home. Then instead of adding additional batteries feeding of the car roof solar in the back of your car, rather install larger capacity batteries directly connected to the other EV batteries in series to extend your range. Then when at home, the large capacity batteries charge your vehicle and extend its range with its additional capacity? You then save on electricity and you extend range? Second, and you may have touched on this in the video, apologies if you did, but can you not arrange more aspects of your EV to run off the 12v car battery, I’m not sure which parts do, like AC, power steering, brake pressure, coolant pump, all the usual stuff, then have the roof solar panel charge the 12v car battery, freeing up your EV batteries a bit from charging the 12v. And if your 12v car battery drops in volts by a certain amount, the EV kicks on the DC-DC charger to top it up. Just wandering.
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions 2 жыл бұрын
Okay that's a lot of questions. I'll try and take them from the top. The original problem I was trying to solve was an aging fleet of approx 400k Nissan Leafs, for whom replacement batteries are impossible or not cost effective. If you had access to a large (cost effective) battery for your house or EV, than yes solar would be much more effective. A large battery bank for your house (40kwh, 3 Tesla Powerwalls) can cost $50k, and new battery for your Leaf can cost $15k. My portable charging station can add up to 25 miles/day of range to my Leaf and cost about $3500. My hope was to create a commuter EV option for people who (like me) cannot afford a Tesla. Additionally I tried to divorce all of the 12v systems in the car from the DC-DC converter (and hence also from the HV battery). There is a weird close circuit detect across the 12v circuit from the DC-DC converter that has frustrated my efforts to separate all these parasitic loads. I am working on this still but it is trickier than you would think.
@JohnArmstrongPhotography
@JohnArmstrongPhotography 2 жыл бұрын
@@InnovativeSustainableSolutions thanks for your reply, all makes sense. It’s a pity it’s so difficult to obtain a leaf battery, with 400k old leafs running around, you would imagine someone would be willing to come up with a battery solution. Obviously Nissan wants new cars sold. I know It still doesn’t extend range of your car in your case, but you could probably build a home battery system with 30-40kw for a “reasonable” amount, like using the 3.2v 280ah lifepo4 batteries. 32 of those give you around 27kw at a “reasonable price”. If you could figure out how to work the 12v car battery dependant items without the dc-dc charger, that’s a winner in my opinion. It’s almost as if it’s easier to convert an old car from ICE to EV, to do what you want, then try and work to extend or customise old EVs. Thanks and good luck.
@desertdan100
@desertdan100 Жыл бұрын
Why don't you just hack the Chademo charge connection ? Wouldn't that be more efficient and keep all of the safety controls involved? It would be safer to hook up and remove. I built a Solar generator that I can tow down the road on a small trailer behind my RV to my hunt camp. I installed and built all of the complicated systems onboard. I went the route of installing a regular campground RV plug box onto my trailer. My connection to my RV is easy and all other 120v outlets are also there for accessories. I have Solar panels mounted on it that keeps the battery pack charged up and maintained constantly. I built it 12 years ago. My battery bank is built out of 8 - LC 16 heavy built Deep Cycle batteries wired Series Parallel. They are driving a high end 3500 KW inverter that can handle an inrush of 5800 watts for 25 seconds. I have charged EV s off of it like an emergency bank to get them down the road or over to a near 240 outlet. I have direct connection that I have welded off of and have connected portable gas powered generators onto in order to charge up the battery bank quickly and run power to the camp. Many areas will not let you run a generator after 9:00 p.m. and this was my solution. I can use my gas generator to top them up quick or hook jumper cables off of my truck and juice them at a high rate of speed. 130 amp alternator. I believe in thinking outside the box like you do. Guys in the Army used to call me MacGyver.
@teemum.9023
@teemum.9023 Жыл бұрын
I don't think the guy at 32:20 has placed solar panels 😅
@icemanb4539
@icemanb4539 Жыл бұрын
i think the sulfur from the batteries emitting would burn a hole in your lungs if the battery is inside the vehicle.
@vroom385
@vroom385 2 жыл бұрын
take a plunger to that dent
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions 2 жыл бұрын
lol. It's a project/hobby car for sure. But I popped it out finally
@redman8574
@redman8574 2 жыл бұрын
Why you think they made it so hard to do this?
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions Жыл бұрын
Because they didn't want people like me messing with it, lol
@redman8574
@redman8574 Жыл бұрын
@@InnovativeSustainableSolutions that's what i was thinking too.......
@surenbono6063
@surenbono6063 10 ай бұрын
..pyrofuse hacks
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