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Soldering for the First Time | Ask This Old House
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6 жыл бұрынWEB EXCLUSIVE: In a recent episode of Ask This Old House, plumbing and heating expert Richard Trethewey helped landscape designer Jenn Nawada hook up a fridge with an icemaker. While he was there, he offered Jenn a crash course on soldering.
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Time: 1 hour
Cost: $50
Skill Level: Moderate
Tools List for Soldering:
Measuring tape
Pipe cutter
Blow torch
Bucket
Shopping List:
Pipe cleaner
Solder
Flux
Pipes
Fittings
Rags
Steps:
1. Shut the water off to the pipes being soldered.
2. Measure and cut the pipes to length using the pipe cutter. Have a bucket ready to catch any water left over in the pipe.
3. Let the pipes dry before soldering or the connection won’t take.
4. Use a pipe cleaner to clean the outside of the pipes and the insides of the fittings.
5. Generously apply flux to the cleaned ends of the pipes and fittings and fit the pieces together.
6. Hold the blow torch on the opposite side of where you plan to apply to solder. Wait a few minutes to allow the pipe to heat up, and then gently touch the pipe with the solder. If it quickly wraps around the entire connection, then it took properly. If it did not, continue to heat the pipe up and try again.
7. Wipe down the excess solder on the pipe with a rag.
8. Turn the water back on.
Resources:
All the materials required for soldering - solder, flux, blow torch, pipes, and fittings - are available at home centers and plumbing supply houses.
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@rawbacon 4 жыл бұрын
TOH taught me to solder over 30 years ago and I'm glad to report the 1" copper I soldered as a kid all those years ago in my Mom's house is still working fine.
@c430 3 жыл бұрын
That's awesome
@eliascruz9757 2 жыл бұрын
Let teach you how to plumbing deep plumbing lol
@WisKrisKar 3 жыл бұрын
Taking a class, any class, from This Old House would be a dream come true!! I love these guys
@michaelfisher7835 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot to deburr the inside of the cut pipe. Very important.
@youngrav2311 2 жыл бұрын
A d forgot to start soldering from the bottom up
@danielmarquardt4341 2 жыл бұрын
ream inside and out
@michaelfisher7835 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielmarquardt4341 I just thought that was a given.
@alexscott730 2 жыл бұрын
3:52...The tool he's using deburs and brushes the inside and edge of the cut.
@michaelfisher7835 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexscott730 I reviewed the video and saw no such tool. Using a brush does nothing to debur the tubing.
@WisKrisKar 3 жыл бұрын
I have to comment again; I am loving this gal with her torch and enthusiasm. So great!
@johnmack1185 4 жыл бұрын
They both did great. My old boss would say " Soldering is not something I can teach you, its something you have to learn". He was right. I learned more by my mistakes and watching others than anything instruction. Good first attempt though.
@nickaschenbecker9882 6 ай бұрын
Your old boss obviously didn't understand the difference between tacit and explicit knowledge. You can teach anyone the theory and practice of anything. No dumb questions; only dumb teachers. Hopefully you didn't cause any structure fires learning what NOT to do the hard way.
@bjornjoseph 3 жыл бұрын
I learned plumbing and electrical thanks to this old house. Moved my washer: new water lines and electrical including a 220
@bdr420i 6 жыл бұрын
great student with great teacher 👏😁 this is awesome
@nickg1307 4 жыл бұрын
My first time soldering I was surprised how easy it was. I'm sure larger pipe 1 1/2" and above is a different story
@alexbailey256 4 жыл бұрын
How about ask this TX master plumber... It's best to apply a bit of heat to the pipe right next to the fitting first. And don't leave the heat in one spot like that again! For one, you'll burn up the fitting and make it weak. For 2, move the heat around the fitting, the solder follows the heat. For 3, if you're only soldering 2 sides of a tee, put a dummy piece in the side you aren't sweating, otherwise, you might have a hard time getting the pipe to fit correctly once you are ready to sweat it.
@forresttaylor2757 Жыл бұрын
Tips like this are extremely helpful especially to a beginner like myself. Thanks for the insight.
@damannoa 6 жыл бұрын
I've learned how to solder thanks to these types of videos on youtube. She did a pretty good job for her first time. It's far from perfect but we all start somewhere. The best thing to do is to buy a couple of 1", 3/4" and 3/8" pipes and fitting, flux, wire, blowtorch and practice at home. The more you practice the better you get. I practice in my garage on my vice. The hardest part is getting the proper heat on the pipes and knowing when to lay down the solder. It gets messy but after letting it cool and sanding down the solder it comes out decent. This was a very helpful and informative video. Keep em coming TOH!
@nunyabusiness1790 4 жыл бұрын
damannoa solder from the bottom up to reduce dripping
@texasflood1295 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Unfortunately, every time I have needed to solder copper pipe, I have been on my back under the house with all kinds of obstructions preventing me from getting in a good position.
@ammisudipto 6 жыл бұрын
You guys are like an uncle teaching me stuff around the house. Thank you.
@xXAnchormonXx 5 жыл бұрын
She did quite well, it only gets better with time.
@stevennolin5871 2 жыл бұрын
It bothers me that didn't ream the inside of the pipe
@wholeNwon 4 жыл бұрын
Looks very easy but takes a little practice. Lots of people comment on deburring. I'd suggest MAP gas and moving the flame over one side of the fitting. Tinning flux is probably a better choice for most. It usually takes a length of solder about equal to the pipe diameter, so I bend the rod at 1/2" for 1/2" pipe as a guide. Apply the solder opposite the heat source and lower on the fitting so that, when you see the solder on the heated side, you know that capillary action has filled the joint rather than gravity moving it over flux. Then wipe it down. Where permitted, use 50-50 lead solder since it has a lower melting point and is therefore easier to use. Obviously must not be used on pipes for potable water. Pex, compression fittings, etc. are very popular for good reasons.
@Bill.L.Carroll 6 жыл бұрын
That's one Crème Brûlée I wouldn't want for desert. Good job on the solder 👍
@lichub 4 жыл бұрын
Gobi or Mojave?
@papercut1987 3 жыл бұрын
4:48 "this is awesome!" "focus lady, stop talking, focus!"
@aznibas 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for wonderful demonstration.
@indycustommade3568 6 жыл бұрын
These are so helpful. Starting a library of useful info. These videos help keep up to speed on everything home stuff. Easy to follow and explains in detail. Great stuff. Oh by the way say hello to the best "Mr. Yankee" Norm. Great guy.
@lovera3878 2 жыл бұрын
Does the solder go all the way around or do you have to bring the wire around. I want to tackle my bathroom and I do not want to use pex or shakrbite behind the wall. I suppose practice makes perfect.
@anthonymonah7116 3 ай бұрын
Its amazing that he is a licensed plumber. First heat the pipe then move the flame to the fitting.
@fiscalwarrior7002 6 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@charleswilson4598 5 жыл бұрын
This lady has some muscles!
@scottslotterbeck3796 4 жыл бұрын
I know. Nothing like a physically-fit woman.
@donb5794 6 жыл бұрын
These are great videos loving this channel
@codythelee573 6 жыл бұрын
I love these videos...many are so easy and explanatory even if its something I already know..
@portaadonai 6 жыл бұрын
I would appreciate seeing the pro demonstrate as well, instead of only seeing the amature lady's attempt
@ericzigler9295 6 жыл бұрын
Where is the drop cloth? Nothing like having molten solder or flux on nice wood floors.
@axtra92 6 жыл бұрын
Eric Zigler its on the floor?
@bmx4158 5 жыл бұрын
@Mike M if you over solder it can cause leaks, if you use a tin and copper alloy atleast
@angelvega3892 4 жыл бұрын
TheOtherWhiteBread0 it’s her first time bro!!
@RileyNA 3 жыл бұрын
I actually use molten solder as grout when I'm doing tile floors
@grigorharutyunyan9934 5 жыл бұрын
This is the best KZfaq Chanel ever keep on coming guys!!
@lichub 4 жыл бұрын
Chanel #5
@guzman9011 2 жыл бұрын
Best how to video! So clear and concise!
@TomsLife9 7 ай бұрын
That jar of flux looks like it’s from the Eisenhower administration, probably time for a new one lol
@dariuszzyskowski2765 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Very helpful.
@polamomo7109 6 жыл бұрын
Keep going guys you awesome!
@mitchellkappler9724 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t you need to debur the inside?
@elnicadrums 4 жыл бұрын
You forgot to ream the pipe. next time put a drop cloth or something so you wont mess up that nice floor.. and one more thing the pipe was too hot to wipe down making your joint weak. other than that good video👍
@scottslotterbeck3796 4 жыл бұрын
Wiping with dry cloth is fine.
@pavelnesterov5554 6 жыл бұрын
Fail , what about deburring copper pipe after cutting.
@tempesttube 4 жыл бұрын
1:42
@streamsniperrty 3 жыл бұрын
He used the steel brush to clean the inside.
@robertsteich7362 6 жыл бұрын
Here's a short lesson for you plumbing teachers out there... Put the practice pipe in a vise so the student can't turn the pipe, but rather the pipe cutter. This will give the student an idea of the real world of pipe cutting. It will teach them how to turn the cutter around the pipe, rather than "stepping it" down the pipe.
@illinoisismycity166 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, that's a great explanation. Makes sense since in the real world you cannot turn the so called pipe around the pipe cutter.
@AStanton1966 3 жыл бұрын
A better way, if you have the room, is to use those new self-cutting tube cutters. You just snap it around the pipe and turn in the direction of the arrow. Easy peasy.
@he-got-a-new-mommy 3 жыл бұрын
You did not deburr the inside of the pipe once it was cut, that is an important step you missed
@HaloGTMaster94 Жыл бұрын
Nice 👍
@dust09100 4 жыл бұрын
Richard looks like he's teaching her while sleeping... he's a pro
@oldtwinsna8347 Жыл бұрын
Richard is an expert in soldering copper pipes.
@brianszanyi5538 2 жыл бұрын
All you guys are great confidence makers rich is great I always use the shark bites I wish I knew if he used them ever on a job
@johnsmith-qe2fd 6 жыл бұрын
Finally something I can learn from
@achag9273 2 жыл бұрын
Great education. Please zoom in when working so we get a better view of work. Thanks
@N3VADAN 4 жыл бұрын
Stay in the groove baby
@tonymanero5544 3 жыл бұрын
Also to debur the pipe wall at the cut area.
@urban9659 6 жыл бұрын
Much better video
@danielmiller2977 6 жыл бұрын
I love this channel!
@kleung347 6 жыл бұрын
i think he should of placed the open end of thhe tee facing upwards in case she added too much solder it doesnt risk being spilled over to that area. you can see that there was already a pool of flux in that area.
@minnesotanice369 3 жыл бұрын
omg I been using this tool to clean battery terminals
@ekaterinas.1330 2 жыл бұрын
So, what's brazing if this is soldering?
@japan-e9j 6 жыл бұрын
Good job
@joshcowart2446 5 жыл бұрын
No reaming plus I was taught to always solder every side of a fitting at the same time. It’s so you don’t draw the solder out of another joint when heating up the cold side. This only really matters on smaller sizes. At least 1” and smaller
@mrp8488 3 жыл бұрын
The brush won't remove burrs, so doesn't the cut pipe have to be deburred first?
@tonymanero5544 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Although the inside pipe cleaner brush could do done deburring.
@edwardvotel9793 4 жыл бұрын
And this old ask never had that segment again lol
@TheOtherBill 6 жыл бұрын
Too bad we can't get MAPP (methylacetylene/propadiene) gas anymore. The MAPP Pro gas now available is hotter than propane but not as hot as the real MAPP was. I wish I'd stocked up in 2008!
@scottslotterbeck3796 4 жыл бұрын
Damned do-gooders.
@GaryYoung-eq1ph Жыл бұрын
How to unsolder flex hose attached to a gate valve without destroying rubber gasket?
@dallasmandy 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this
@keithbettencourt7569 6 жыл бұрын
How do we search all your videos for a specific topic?
@PatrickSteil 3 жыл бұрын
I had a really hard time today getting my solder to melt. Please make sure there is no water in your pipes when you try to do this soldering! :-) It should only take between 30 seconds and one minute to get the copper to the right temperature before the solder melts. I sat there for 10 minutes heating up the pipe and it never melted because I had some water in the pipe.
@stacktier8257 3 жыл бұрын
Ty. Curious about that prep table and solder on the floor?
@VCGConstruction 6 жыл бұрын
Very awesome!!
@haroldmccarthy8382 6 жыл бұрын
generation next! looks like some of our old guys are retiring soon
@neosmith80 6 жыл бұрын
what about deburring?
@EclecticBuddha 6 жыл бұрын
I've never seen copper tube that needed deburred. Cutting small stainless lines for compression fittings I have but never residential copper.
@Brian-Burke 6 жыл бұрын
I do that as well. Also, did it seem like an eternity for that first connection to bubble? Did she have the heat on the most optimal spot?
@nickrutter6875 6 жыл бұрын
It needs to be deburred for sure. If you don’t the tiniest little burr will catch deposits in the water and they will spin around in a vortex while water is flowing and erode the pipe until it is spraying out a little
@2aminitials 6 жыл бұрын
The inside of the copper needs to be deburred. There is a tool with a hook end that makes deburring easy. She should of had the flame closer, and MAPP gas would have worked better than propane.
@nickrutter6875 6 жыл бұрын
2 AM totally agree. Needs to be deburred. Mapp gas works way better than propane
@basildraws 2 жыл бұрын
Flux is not a catalyst. Soldering doesn’t require a catalyst. Flux is an acid which improves on the mechanical cleaning by ‘eating’ any remaining oxides.
@Ilyana2015 6 жыл бұрын
Wow amazing
@adamfpv8294 6 жыл бұрын
Nice but you don’t mention to use lead free solder, which is very important am I right?
@acman0926 6 жыл бұрын
Adam FPV I dont think you can buy leaded solder on a foll anymore
@caribbeaninthehouse5620 6 жыл бұрын
Adam FPV I have never seen Lead solder for plumbing on only on Electronics
@SadUncleTed 5 жыл бұрын
@@acman0926rolls of 50/50 lead solder are still sold for non-potable and DWV applications
@cfwproductions 6 жыл бұрын
Toh is awesome
@dillonphillips313 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta ream the cut pipe, Richard! You know better.
@Soxruleyanksdrool 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to learn how to sodder (sotter?).
@mvnorsel6354 Жыл бұрын
No matter how long I leave the heat on the join, can't melt the solder. How many gas bottles for 1 join ?
@LatinMaximus Жыл бұрын
It's important to remember two things: (1) always turn your torch to the max. It can't be on the low end. (2) for bigger diameter pipes you can't use small torch head.
@gabrielgonzales8163 5 жыл бұрын
buenos videos plomeria work#1
@michael1275toby 4 жыл бұрын
Would be nice to see it up close
@theblogofsingh 3 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't you preheat the fittings first? Just asking
@ncooty Жыл бұрын
Debur!
@clenclen 3 жыл бұрын
no deburring ?????
@06ssingh 6 жыл бұрын
In the UK we have pipe slices which cut the pipe in half the time.
@gregsplace.greecenewyork2744 6 жыл бұрын
Sukh Singh This kind of pipe cutter is best.
@scottslotterbeck3796 4 жыл бұрын
Well good for you.
@06ssingh 4 жыл бұрын
@@scottslotterbeck3796 it is
@Homepros888 6 жыл бұрын
Turn the cutter around the pipe! you don't turn the pipe in the cutter.
@DXSUCKIT1990 6 жыл бұрын
Homepros NYC it is her first time
@acman0926 6 жыл бұрын
Id bett a hundred bucks it cuts the same
@Homepros888 6 жыл бұрын
He is teaching her, so he should have told her how to cut the pipe correctly
@Felisargyle 6 жыл бұрын
The pipe is short so it’s easier to turn the pipe
@Brian17177 5 жыл бұрын
Why does it matter
@EitriBrokkr 6 жыл бұрын
you forgot to deburr it
@revampgarage8341 5 жыл бұрын
When soldering you want to do all 3 sides of the tee. In this case when soldering the 3rd side the solder might let loose on the other side and leak, please check out the vids i made on plumbing
@801D012 5 жыл бұрын
LimitzHd Solder all 3 sides of the tee at the same time. Of course you do. But it wouldn't be any fun watching a "This Old House" video if they did.
@mae2759 6 жыл бұрын
My dad has an old soldering "gun" - is that too weak for this application in lieu of the blowtorch?
@alexandergusho8342 5 жыл бұрын
That's only good for soldering electric work
@mae2759 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys.
@scottslotterbeck3796 4 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@Odin029 4 жыл бұрын
I just came to see if her first solder joint is as bad as mine was. I had dabs of solder and burnt flux all over the place
@acman0926 6 жыл бұрын
No flux after the solder? Man it cleans up nicely
@Guardducks 6 жыл бұрын
Aww Richard the great. She must have sent Rich an E mail . Ha ha
@axtra92 6 жыл бұрын
guardduck25 ?
@Guardducks 6 жыл бұрын
axtra92 axtra92?
@cristianmunoz2480 6 жыл бұрын
Better to put heat all around the fitting so that the solder goes in all the way around other than that it's ok
@EclecticBuddha 6 жыл бұрын
Cristian Munoz he showed the right way. Heating on one side and feeding solder on the other guarantees thorough heating. Copper is an excellent heat conductor.
@cristianmunoz2480 6 жыл бұрын
EclecticBuddha not really because if you put heat on just one side you can burn the flux and risk the solder not going in the whole fitting.
@axtra92 6 жыл бұрын
Cristian Munoz and you have never done this.. just watched videos about it
@cristianmunoz2480 6 жыл бұрын
axtra92 lol well since im a plumber I do it a lot
@axtra92 6 жыл бұрын
Cristian Munoz dont think so
@RBsLikeArbys 6 жыл бұрын
1:23 "Here is your 6" piece"
@azizbah555 6 жыл бұрын
عملكم متقن اتمنى لكم الحياة السعيدة
@microphonixvirtualstudio1634 4 жыл бұрын
Flux is designed to prevent oxidatin.
@zaheerjabbar5304 6 жыл бұрын
" Now make a groove." " I have my groove on!" " Now stay in your groove. Eh, eh, eh, eh." " keep twisting!"
@billnye5600 5 жыл бұрын
Great now you have solder on the floor
@ashrafkarjiker6888 Жыл бұрын
Should use latex gloves when applying flux
@zino6661 2 жыл бұрын
deburring steps???
@construction-productscemen4935 6 жыл бұрын
Get more information from the video. Thank you for sharing.
@alemgas 3 жыл бұрын
Not
@alemgas 3 жыл бұрын
Why do you pronounce solder without the L and why do you not use loaded Solder fittings, cheers from Scotland
@alemgas 3 жыл бұрын
You never put flux on the inside of the fitting this can cause internal pipe corrosion even after flushing, amateurs ,soLder has a L
@king49334 5 жыл бұрын
Move the torch around for even heat distribution
@scottslotterbeck3796 4 жыл бұрын
No. He's doing it right.
@abenzuoo 6 жыл бұрын
Dont touch it!
@prpunk187 6 жыл бұрын
For real looked like he was about to grab the pipe
@matth5309 3 жыл бұрын
That was the nastiest container of flux I’ve ever seen. I think it was more crap than flux
@jasonweir1444 6 жыл бұрын
Why does he never use a pipe slice
@MrGatoka 3 жыл бұрын
Did I miss the part where they debur the pipe?
@juliosilva1671 2 жыл бұрын
Please teach me 😃
@YoureASquidYoureAKid 6 жыл бұрын
Anyone else dances for the intro music?
@TheHobbyShopFilms 6 жыл бұрын
Forgot to deburr the inside of the pipe.
@brokentombot 5 жыл бұрын
And clean off the copper particles they made. Unreamed and unclean!
@KenpachiZarakiX 5 жыл бұрын
Like creme broooleeee!
@stevenheinemann4576 4 жыл бұрын
Never inside the fitting!!!
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