SOLIDWORKS SHEET METAL - What is K-FACTOR?

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Too Tall Toby

Too Tall Toby

Күн бұрын

In today's power moves #tootalltoby shares a #sheet #metal #tutorial on what #bend #deduction #bend #allowance and #k-factor all do - and how these tools can help you calculate a sheet metal flat pattern length.
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0:00 What is BEND DEFORMATION in sheet metal?
2:45 SolidWorks Training with Toby
3:50 Bend Deduction in SOLIDWORKS
5:45 Bend Allowance in SOLIDWORKS
7:27 What is K-FACTOR in sheet metal?
10:32 Is Bend Deduction better than K-Factor?
11:56 Final Thoughts and Advice
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@TooTallToby
@TooTallToby 4 күн бұрын
Here's a comment I got on Reddit with regards to this video. This guy shares some great insights about how the team on the other end (the manufacturing/shop team) might prefer to receive sheet metal designs, from CAD designers/engineers. These are some GREAT POINTS and the TLDR point here is: Always work with (or talk to) the manufacturing team and find out what works best for them - it can save you a TON of time, since you won't have to waste time coming up with a good flat pattern - just let them do it (if that's what they want) 🙂 ======================================================= REDDIT COMMENT from Joaquin2071 I think this is a very good explanation for beginners going into sheet metal, however, if you are engineering and not actually manufacturing, it’s important to know that you shouldn’t be messing with these as it is up to the engineers at the manufacturer to determine the bend deduction based on their machines and their dies, especially when air forming. As someone who is an engineer in manufacturing, my job is a lot easier when the customer does not give a flat pattern and even better when they don’t dimension off of a flat pattern because 99% of the time, whatever k-factor/bd they are using is going to be way different than what we use. As far as the way I see k-factor, as someone who works directly with the brake department and has a gigantic table of bend deductions for all sorts of material and thicknesses, I see k-factor as a dependent variable that is found after doing live bend tests, finding the bend deduction by solving for how much the material shrunk. then, when plugged into the formula for bend deduction, you solve for the k-factor. That k-factor can then be used for that material, thickness, and radius to solve for non 90deg angles. The only time I ever use k-factor built into solidworks is for hems, and from there we proof the flat to show a bend deduction and then that is given to the brake operator. Just my little 2 cents from working in mfg for almost 5 years now (learning from old heads lol). P.s. A tried and true k-factor that is used a lot though that will almost always work is .4469. Especially for aluminum when air forming. That’ll get you pretty dang close P.p.s always dimension to the virtual exterior tangents, thank you :)
@amoplantalexei
@amoplantalexei 3 күн бұрын
Excellent explanation and much much better format in 12 mins, then in shorts. Not too long (20- mins), not too short (1- min).
@TooTallToby
@TooTallToby 2 күн бұрын
Nice thanks Mr Alex! Great feedback!
@zbigniewalejster7337
@zbigniewalejster7337 Күн бұрын
This is probably the simplest and best explanation of the "K factor" I've seen so far! Thanks! Well done!
@TooTallToby
@TooTallToby Күн бұрын
Awesome! So glad this helps!
@KaushalPrajapati-ku6bi
@KaushalPrajapati-ku6bi 4 күн бұрын
Finally, I understood the concept of K factor. Thanks for sharing.
@TooTallToby
@TooTallToby 2 күн бұрын
Awesome very glad this helps!
@MrRick76
@MrRick76 3 күн бұрын
Default K-Factor in most software is 0.440 If you use this number you are going to be very close. A larger K-factor increases material & a lower number reduces material. Example. Stainless Steel 1.5mm Standard Pressbrake Tooling V12-30 Bend Allowance = 3.10mm Internal Rad =2.50 External Rad=4.0 K-Factor=0.413 A great utility is available online called Bendworks V1.1 from 2003! but it works fine on Win11. You can reverse the k-factor by doing a bend test & measuring it. Cut a blank 100x100 bend it to 90 degrees & measure it accurately. Good tutorial Toby, I work in sheet metal & some of the customers need more training! Cheers
@MarkSummersCAD
@MarkSummersCAD 2 күн бұрын
Agree with the Bendworks program comments. The app is very handy and the attached PDF (The Fine Art of Sheetmetal Bending) is a great reference with topics I teach in my Manufacturing Engineering classes at ACC and TXST.
@TooTallToby
@TooTallToby 2 күн бұрын
thanks Mr Rick these are some great insights and the community very much appreciates them!
@TooTallToby
@TooTallToby 2 күн бұрын
Awesome thanks Mark!
@kalvinglennsaul873
@kalvinglennsaul873 4 күн бұрын
For someone don't have the knowledge in sheet metal just like me this is a great lesson, Thank you
@TooTallToby
@TooTallToby 2 күн бұрын
Awesome glad this helped!
@chrisrobinson2172
@chrisrobinson2172 2 күн бұрын
Great explanation. What finally really helped me was to understand that the K-Factor is a percentage of the thickness of the material. In other words, the total thickness of the material is 100%. A K-Factor of .4 then is for all intent purposes 40% of the material thickness; your offset basically.
@TooTallToby
@TooTallToby 2 күн бұрын
Awesome thanks chris and glad this helped!
@akashrathod6134
@akashrathod6134 14 сағат бұрын
Visual explanation really helped to understand concepts.
@TooTallToby
@TooTallToby 11 сағат бұрын
Awesome glad this helped!
@JernD
@JernD 4 күн бұрын
Wow great video and shout out to the other commenters sharing their time tested wisdom!
@TooTallToby
@TooTallToby 2 күн бұрын
YEah what a great community!
@franklaurent80
@franklaurent80 4 күн бұрын
Awesome , this is the best explanation I've ever heard for bend allowance, Thank you
@TooTallToby
@TooTallToby 2 күн бұрын
Thanks Frank!
@EduardoSantosf5Gwx
@EduardoSantosf5Gwx 3 күн бұрын
That was new to me too! Home run!
@TooTallToby
@TooTallToby 2 күн бұрын
Awesome thanks Eduardo! Glad this helped!
@Ryohgantz
@Ryohgantz 3 күн бұрын
Thank you for the lesson
@TooTallToby
@TooTallToby 2 күн бұрын
My pleasure and glad this helps!
@asif.a15
@asif.a15 4 күн бұрын
This is well explained Toby!
@TooTallToby
@TooTallToby 2 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@adrinelu3977
@adrinelu3977 4 күн бұрын
Well explained, thank you!
@TooTallToby
@TooTallToby 2 күн бұрын
Awesome glad this helped!
@amirshay
@amirshay 4 күн бұрын
Excellent, thanks!
@TooTallToby
@TooTallToby 2 күн бұрын
Thanks Amir!
@bjh9501
@bjh9501 4 күн бұрын
great explanation
@TooTallToby
@TooTallToby 2 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@jelasukmawan2359
@jelasukmawan2359 2 күн бұрын
Hello, I have been looking for a video about unbend / flatness for determining blank size dies for a long time. I want to ask how to make blank sizes from neutral format parts such as STP, x.t, etc. Apart from using logopress and autoform If the solidwork format such as sldprt can still be unbend using the sheet metal feature,
@TooTallToby
@TooTallToby Күн бұрын
Sure I can make a video on this - the short answer is: use INSERT>SHEET METAL>INSERT BENDS or use INSERT>SHEET METAL>CONVERT TO SHEET METAL
@Chimney_bbx
@Chimney_bbx 4 күн бұрын
They had us writing pages worth of reports on this shit. Im saying you spend 12+ hours grinding and they give you the report back at C- or D+ on a good day. Those engineers dont mess around.
@TooTallToby
@TooTallToby 2 күн бұрын
lol for reals! FLAT-LENGTH off by 0.5mm across 2m? NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!
@garramiro
@garramiro 4 күн бұрын
it used to be a line of Wilson tennis racquets
@TooTallToby
@TooTallToby 2 күн бұрын
The K-Factor generation has four main components (K)arophite Black, (K)onnector, (K)ontour Yoke, and (K)ompact Center. Nice
@jamesjefferson8916
@jamesjefferson8916 3 күн бұрын
Where did the 0.35 K-factor come from?
@TooTallToby
@TooTallToby 2 күн бұрын
The correct K-factor value is determined by a variety of things: Material, Thickness, Bending process, Bend Radius, and trial and error (working with the shop floor). If you are completely unsure, you can use a value between 0.35 and 0.5, and you'll usually be pretty close, but you'll want to make sure you discuss with the manufacturing team before proceeding.
@jamesjefferson8916
@jamesjefferson8916 3 күн бұрын
So the Q number in the table is bend deduction, isn’t it?
@TooTallToby
@TooTallToby 2 күн бұрын
Yeah that would be used with the BEND DEDUCTION option in SolidWorks, since you're measuring to the virtual sharp
@MrMemusashi
@MrMemusashi 4 күн бұрын
I completely understand what k factor is and I use it almost all the time. However I do not understand how to know what is the correct k factor or how to go about figuring out what the correct k factor should be. I just always use .5 since I almost never use metal thicker than 14 GA. I can't be that far off. But I would like to know how to figure out the right k factor for me.
@MarkSummersCAD
@MarkSummersCAD 2 күн бұрын
K-factor is a function of several items, such as material alloy and condition, type of bend (air, bottom, etc.), bend radius, ambient temperature, etc. The best way to determine the K-factor is to do a test bend with known parameters and reverse calculate the K-factor. For most aluminum alloys and thin steel sheets, K-factor of .44 will get you pretty close. Look into Bendworks application for some good reference material.
@TooTallToby
@TooTallToby 2 күн бұрын
Excellent answer thanks Mark!
@MrMemusashi
@MrMemusashi 2 күн бұрын
@MarkSummersCAD thank you. What is "bend works application"? Is this a website? Or an app?
@MarkSummersCAD
@MarkSummersCAD 2 күн бұрын
​@@MrMemusashi​, it is a downloadable app for Windows. Just google "BendWorks_V1-1_Setup.zip"
@MrMemusashi
@MrMemusashi 2 күн бұрын
@@MarkSummersCAD thanks again.
@DRIFTMOTIVE
@DRIFTMOTIVE 4 күн бұрын
so how is kfactor calculated for different thickness and radius?
@bjh9501
@bjh9501 4 күн бұрын
I believe it is found by practical experiments using test pieces in the workshop.
@TooTallToby
@TooTallToby 2 күн бұрын
The correct K-factor value is determined by a variety of things: Material, Thickness, Bending process, Bend Radius, and trial and error (working with the shop floor). If you are completely unsure, you can use a value between 0.35 and 0.5, and you'll usually be pretty close, but you'll want to make sure you discuss with the manufacturing team before proceeding.
@BobPhelpsRRIowa
@BobPhelpsRRIowa 4 күн бұрын
Spot on but you didn't explain that K-Factor is just the percentage of the material thickness. The line/depth that doesn't change length throughout the bend. All the material on the inside of this line gets compressed and all the material on the outside of this line gets stretched. In the real world with steel and aluminum a K-Factor of .4 is a good baseline until you run samples or prototypes. And your shear size is smaller than the outside bend flanges combined.
@TooTallToby
@TooTallToby 2 күн бұрын
Nice thanks for the feedback Bob - Great stuff!
@maz1988
@maz1988 4 күн бұрын
If bend radius is greater than 3x material thickness, k-factor would usually be 0.5
@TooTallToby
@TooTallToby 2 күн бұрын
Nice - great insight - thanks!
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