SOLVED After 16-Years.. (Final Episode) Donnie Messier

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(Part 3 of 3) After successfully identifying and confirming Donnie Messier’s Red 1997 Ford F-150 pickup truck in the Winooski river, Vermont state officials arrive to begin recovery efforts.
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Returning to this case with a fresh set of eyes along with new information from local volunteer and Norwich University Graduate Northfield, VT and NSW Candidate Mentor William McIntosh - AWP team members Nick Rinn and guest “Down Under” Dan Prichard revisit Donnie Messier’s 16-year-old case after a 2021 search effort made by AWP founder Jared Leisek and team lead Doug Bishop.
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CASE NOTES
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Donnie Messier
Missing Since: October 5th, 2006
Missing From: Waitsfield, Vermont
Sex: Male Height: Unknown Weight: Unknown
Race: White
Age: 34 years old
Case Description:
Messier was last seen at a party in Waitsfield, Vermont at 2:00 a.m. on October 15, 2006. He left the gathering driving his red 1997 Ford F-150 dual cab pickup truck and has never been heard from again.
The vehicle has the Vermont license plate number BGG890, a dual exhaust, a moon visor, a black tonneau cover, and the NASCAR numbers 27, 07 and 08 displayed in the rear window. A photograph of it is posted with this case summary. Since his disappearance, Messier's bank accounts, credit cards and cellular phone have been inactive.
Messier was reported missing on October 18, three days after he was last seen, after he missed two days of work at Green Mountain Coffee Roasters without calling in. His family described him as a hard worker and a "homeboy" who rarely traveled anywhere. The only out-of-state trip he had ever taken was in the fifth grade, when his father's work briefly took the family to Florida.
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@johnmichael580 Жыл бұрын

So frustrating that a lot of police departments won’t even let awp help or even talk about things together and see how it should be done. No reason that truck shoulda been pulled out upside down

@sayno2globalism Жыл бұрын

I agree with you word for word. Truck was right side up underwater. It was nearly barbaric the way the truck was treated. Wish teams would talk to AWP when creating strategy. More learning opportunity for the local team.

@PhoenixWA80 Жыл бұрын

Out of that patch of bank from which they could have gotten an angle on it, they had to pull it THROUGH the ONE TREE in that stretch. Lots of space on either side of the tree, and a skinny young one at that, and they pull the truck up through it.

@whodey3198 Жыл бұрын

Another job well done..prayers to the family..

@genevievegroult9079 Жыл бұрын

@@PhoenixWA80 fully scrubbed the car clean with that tree.. sigh

@RileyCullen1 Жыл бұрын

Not sure what state your from but I am from Vermont. The police are really good about coming fast when called. And they usually let you off on a ticket. But not all of the Middlesex Barracks are bright or care. I do know 2 personally but they are the exception & didn’t work on this case. I knew Donnie (not well but I did email AWP about his case). Anyways, I think the Vermont State Police dropped the ball from the beginning. There was some reason why they pulled it the way they did (an issue with the rotator & then having to get a tow truck instead). The tow guy got injured. He’s good from what I last heard. They also had VSP dive team search that part of the river from what I heard. They probably didn’t want to look bad & that’s why they took over & didn’t want help. I personally don’t think they did enough or even cared after a few months. His family are great people & Im glad they kept fighting to find him. I hope they do. This case has bothered me from the beginning. I just started the video & paused it to comment. So I don’t know yet what this video shows.

@coleedm5987 Жыл бұрын

The way both the diver and her boss were laughing/smiling at 15:28 until the boss looked to the right and remembered she was being filmed. I would love to know what they found so humorous while discussing recovering the remains of a missing person.

@elizekunz4781 Жыл бұрын

I agree with you! Her behaviour is absolutely disgusting!! She is a disgrace to her department and her uniform!! I hope she gets to see these comments!!

@martinahenderson2657 Жыл бұрын

God she really got to me with her smirking face,so inconsiderate

@peterthrupp1542 Жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing Colee. What was so funny at that time. Just so pathetic and egotistical.

@defletcher2902 Жыл бұрын

#VermontStatePoliceDiveTeamFail

@Unearthed53 Жыл бұрын

I think she was laughing about him breaking the tailgate off but they was trying to get the tag so that they would have proof and the police would actually come and then they pulled it out upside down so they don't need to be laughing at anyone but there self for what poor job they done

@elmhaven 8 ай бұрын

Shame on law enforcement for the total mishandling of this recovery. I am utterly embarrassed for them!!!

@TheZbierman 4 ай бұрын

Shame on law enforcement is becoming more and more common. Its a lackluster, ego fueled, job for kids that got picked on in high school and that is unfortunate for the few good ones.

@GeeB1 3 ай бұрын

At 32:25, just watch as that Vermont State Police trooper spits on the ground. HOW DISRESPECTFUL! And, the VSP dive team member that was laughing as Nick was trying to give his briefing! OMG!!! So unprofessional and disrespectful! Vermont State Police is an agency of 99% racist white cops that are USELESS! VSP troopers are constantly in the local news about being fired for DOMESTIC ABUSE, VIOLATING PEOPLE'S CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, HARASSMENT, LYING ON AFFIDAVITS and EXCESSIVE FORCE. VSP is an agency of poorly trained, uncaring, racist white cops! VSP ARE USELESS!

@j00p136 10 ай бұрын

I’m broken for this family. The truck was found, handled in a disrespectful way to then find there were no remains inside. Well with the way they dragged the truck out what did they expect? Despicable. Well done to AWP, you did more to help in a number of days than those idiots ever did in 16yrs. RIP Donnie, I hope they’ll be able to find him

@GeeB1 3 ай бұрын

@garycurry4600 Жыл бұрын

I am not a diver, but when I saw the truck come out upside down, my heart sank. My deepest sympathy to the family and friends. Officers, leave your ego’s back at the station, and take advantage of what others have to offer. I knew there was a problem when the reporter said “police have found”…no, police did NOT find…AWP found.

@ronhall3686 Жыл бұрын

That comment also made my blood boil.

@sueydakillaboo Жыл бұрын

Yeah that’s just disgusting they all should be ashamed for life about this terrible, TERRIBLE police work. Do better guys I hope someone from the department sees all these for real, this cannot go unheard. Complete garbage.

@faithreturns333 Жыл бұрын

THE MOMENT I saw it was WOMEN in charge of this dive and recovery I knew they would screw it all up! OH AND I AM A WOMAN!! My point here is they should have let the SEARCH TEAM help them like other locations have done and they would not look so stupid right now

@brendawatt2762 Жыл бұрын

İt was all going well until the police showed up they were offered but their ego wouldn't allow AWP to recover the car what a mistake. I've never seen anything like it that recovery should have taken a couple of hours but they made it more difficult for themselves that pure guys family having to witness the car being dragged out and upside down then the news reporter had the nerve to say the police recovered it! İt must be so frustrating for the AWP guys but at the end of the day we all know who done the hard work I only hope they can find him now x

@meghandalaba7720 Жыл бұрын

Omg ya, when I heard that I was like what!?!?! Police didn't find shit! 😒 My heart broke for that family to see how that truck was pulled out. Even his coworker who I'm sure has no experience with diving or car towing/recovery was like they should be asking their help. They have all this amazing equipment and they would have pulled that vehicle out right side up

@joanniesoucy9440 Жыл бұрын

Watching how they pulled the truck out broke my heart to pieces...I can't imagine how the family felt seeing it being dragged that way. I hope they can now begin to heal from this. Thank you so much AWP for everything you do, and everyone you bring back home. God bless you and take good care of yourselves.💜

@kathylavoie3105 Жыл бұрын

I want to know why they didn’t bring it up tires down right side up maybe there would’ve been something in there that would’ve said yes he was in the vehicle

@blueice011 Жыл бұрын

Devastatingly disrespectful and unsympathetic. Imagine if they've missed evidence underwater and dragging that truck upside down without any protection to it's content could have result with evidence rolling out of it while pulling. All those parents need are their son's remains rolling around. What a bunch of nobs. Sorry.

@tiffyyorkshire6124 Жыл бұрын

I agree. I would hope that the LE person(s) responsible for decisions in this recovery receive constructive advice from it's own members at least. Throughout the whole 'dragging of the car' I wondered if the divers would return to the water with collection bags. I feel that crime scene was severely compromised and it made me feel sick!

@maz3555 Жыл бұрын

the sound it made brought tears to my eyes, i feel for the family , may the family now have some closure .

@defletcher2902 Жыл бұрын

I think LE should treat vehicles with the utmost respect. Have some awareness of the family watching. Another case where they act like they don't care and just want to drag some hunk of metal out. #VermontStatePoliceFail

@gerrys3356 Жыл бұрын

After watching AWP for so long and how much they care about getting the remains secured. It was absolutely DISGUSTING to see how this LE Agency did so much to LOSE Donnie's remains. So sad for the family.

@cetamillington Жыл бұрын

I thought exactly the same thing,it was devastating to see how they basically just tipped the vehicle upside down to empty the contents just to make it lighter for the little wrecker that couldn’t,so much for the officer initiated stating how they want to preserve the contents and remains,not to mention the disrespect of the officers laughing whilst nick was briefing them over the footage,how they could do this pisspoor recovery effort whilst the worlds best experts with every conceivable equipment needed were on scene offering free assistance is beyond me,Vermont PD should be ashamed,I’ve seen remote PD’s with no dive teams etc pull together with AWP and recovered vehicle and loved ones respectfully and intact,I hope lessons were learned here although that’s not going to bring Donnie home 😢🙏 RIP Donnie 🙏🙏🙏 I’m so sorry you and your loved ones were let down in this way 😢😔

@RobNC-OG 10 ай бұрын

They didn't give a hoot about the guy's remains. I also detected attitude with the state "scuba team" like they thought it was funny. Heartless.

@GlennDowney 10 ай бұрын

Typical authority think they know best don't want to listen to the real people.Such a sad way to see it end like that.100% there would of been something in there before they f it up

@999fine4 9 ай бұрын

LE only concern is closing out a case. They could care less about the families. Sad. They should be ashamed.

@gayle8153 8 ай бұрын

Wow…I was gonna watch this recovery, but not sure I want to now, according to the comments, if local officers were that bad….😔

@Cbtrainnut Жыл бұрын

So sad when the authorities have such big egos that they won’t let the experts do their thing and help. RIP Donnie.

@julicooke4266 3 ай бұрын

fragile inflated egos that will burst like a soap bubble when challenged

@KSUGA-mo6se Жыл бұрын

"Tonight...police find the missing truck." Unreal! I cant believe credit went to the police in the earlier news cast. Bravo, AWP and friends. We know who the real heroes are here. My deepest condolences to this young man's family.

@Dept_Of_Ducks Жыл бұрын

I caught myself audibly scoffing at the screen when I heard that line.

@carolbrown6971 Жыл бұрын

I agree. I made the same comment on episode two.

@mikaa4366 Жыл бұрын

Well, police found the missing truck... after AWP kindly told them where to find it...

@prettybrowneyez3338 Жыл бұрын

I'll be looking into their web page, if they have one, and remind them they need to be transparent and thank the people that did the REAL WORK....

@tThisNThat Жыл бұрын

I know..News can't be trusted...EVER! again they prove that fact.

@flyingcasablancasons Жыл бұрын

Let me get this straight: Jared ensured LE knew the truck must be kept level as it came out and that AWP could do that for them. LE took a pass on *free help from the most experienced recovery team in the world,* did the second-worst possible thing, then the worst possible thing, topping it off by using a tree to scrub out anything left. We watched with our mouths hanging open, expecting them to bypass the flatbed altogether at that point and just drag the truck down the highway behind the rotator like honeymoon cans. Kudos to AWP and Downunder Dan Diving, who did a beautiful job. *Sincere condolences* to the family. Massive side eye to LE.

@EmilyJBunny Жыл бұрын

Sounds like you summed that up pretty perfectly! My teeth actually hurt right now cause of how hard I was clenching them trying to watch this and not yell at the TV since some people are sleeping around here. Just mind boggling.

@wandanicely7607 Жыл бұрын

The family should have a say in who pulls the vehicle out

@s.m.fveritas4931 Жыл бұрын

For real. So sad.

@kristyeaton7865 Жыл бұрын

@@wandanicely7607 exactly. AWP found it and the police just took over. They should have worked with AWP and let them pull the truck and remains. I feel so bad everytime I see this happen to them. Being in the families shoes, I'd insist that Jared's team pulled it; they found it. Police could have supervised as they pulled it.

@forjo7307 Жыл бұрын

Right over a tree?

@laurinwilhelm3116 Жыл бұрын

I remember AWP saying, " We need to remove these 2 trees right here", the officer asked where, they said, " Here, so they can pull the truck with nothing in its way"! Of course, they didn't cut the 2 trees, the same trees that the truck got hung up on! This isn't about who's man part is bigger, this was about bringing home a young man to his family, to give them closure, peace of mind, and to show their Final Act of Love by laying Him to Rest! They say it takes a village to raise a child, then why cut off that village on the very last time you will raise him!? Thank you AWP for everything you do!! ❤

@GeeB1 3 ай бұрын

Vermont State Police are racist white morons, poorly trained idiots and uneducated imbeciles.

@_mojojojeaux Жыл бұрын

Seeing that truck come out upside down broke my heart. At that point, LE should’ve scrapped looking inside of the vehicle altogether. Watching them not even bother to cut that tree which scraped whatever evidence was inside infuriated me. They did a disservice to the family. I’m angry that Donnie’s family, including his parents, had to watch them disgrace the last peace of hope that they had to lay their son to rest. There was no regard for that. They just wanted credit for pulling it out of the water. My heart is broke for this family. Shame on LE and that dive team for this.

@blueboy450 Жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly! I thought why didn’t they cut the tree down? I appreciate LE, but they done a poor job there!

@cynthiawitthopkins1401 Жыл бұрын

It breaks my heart that this team didn’t pull this truck out upright. So much could have been lost turning it upside down. This poor family has suffered enough. Maybe the police should watch your videos and learn!

@ApoIIo95 Жыл бұрын

Or just not have ego's and let AWP use their expertise and experience. Another example of poor leadership in Law Enforcement. Grrrrrrrr. Makes me angry. Oh well, I should shut up and stay in my lane. I am judging from behind my office desk and shouldn't. Just frustrated.

@RileyCullen1 Жыл бұрын

Well said

@xminusone1 Жыл бұрын

The truck didn't have a top anymore. It's quite possible there was no remains to found at all. But they could have used a crane. Maybe they thought that there was nothing to save but we never know. I don't know if it was possible for a crane to be set near the river. It needs a very stable ground to operate safely. But as I said, we never know.

@MicrowaveCheese33 Жыл бұрын

@@roseyrosita Yeah there's some ego issues for sure. Even 16 years later they have the best at hand but no we have much less experienced to finish the recovery! Had this team not located the vehicle LE would still not have found it even 1600 years later. Sometimes common sense never prevails thankfully not all LE is like this. Some have common sense.

@elizagrogan9454 Жыл бұрын

@@ApoIIo95 Well said. If they would just be open to AWP advice, they could have retrieved more body parts. It would also have saved them a lot of money. I believe it is egos getting in the way of doing the job right. Its frustrating to watch.

@cdubyuh4512 Жыл бұрын

The AWP gang can't say it publicly so we're doing it for you. Utterly heartbreaking to watch the woeful handling of recovering Donnie's truck. People who loved him stood there watching "authorities" blow any chance of finding remains. And WTH with that reporter crediting police with finding the truck?! As always, AWP focused on doing right by the missing person and his family. You are true heroes!

@markchamplin8163 Жыл бұрын

The police most likely called reporters and told them they found it. That pissed me off when I heard it too. Total bulls#!t.

@hummingbird275 Жыл бұрын

@@markchamplin8163 It’s no wonder people have lost respect for LE officers. They have brought it on themselves for being horses azzez

@Kaz_TVx Жыл бұрын

Welcome to Vermont this is how it is here.... its a joke...

@MissLilyputt Жыл бұрын

Didn’t they go through the truck and use the hose to get stuff out of the interior or the truck before the pulled it out?

@jefferyscism2276 Жыл бұрын

I suspect that whoever was the scene Commander at that time came to it in his head it all he cared about was getting the truck itself out. I didn't see any concern about remains during this recovery. They dumped the truck over they flipped it upside down and drug it 100 ft upside down. Of course it was going to be empty when they got the shore.

@christsciple Жыл бұрын

I work with police in a civilian capacity, my company works in digital forensics and we partner with everyone from local LE to federal agents including the FBI and DoD. And the police here were grossly incompetent and arrogant. Nearly all LE we work with are incompetent in some fashion or another but to treat the vehicle the way they did in this particular situation is upsetting.

@GeeB1 3 ай бұрын

Vermont State Police are poorly trained idiots, uneducated morons, arrogant pigs and racists.

@ScottRPriester Жыл бұрын

The more I watch these programs, the more I respect this team, and the more faith I lose in law enforcement

@adamrouse16 5 ай бұрын

For real, our money would be better spent on teams like these people. Someone would at least come find us.

@janetg14 Жыл бұрын

This is infuriating. Doesn’t take someone with experience to know that you want to try to contain anything inside the vehicle as your pulling it out. The incompetence of law enforcement is incredible. So heartbreaking for this family. Condolences to them ❤

@tiktok11150 Жыл бұрын

I have a feeling it was the City Manager who had something to do with the poor decision making. Some are only concerned with what is the cheapest way and not the best way.

@PaddyMcMe Жыл бұрын

I just want to know what the rationale was behind flipping the truck? A child could tell you that's a terrible idea so how did that become their plan?

@judithburke1539 Жыл бұрын

Even people know that who aren't in law enforcement!

@TinkletitsMcGee Жыл бұрын

It’s just insane watching the cops mess up the evidence time after time.

@unsheepled Жыл бұрын

Almost like they want to on purpose :( No containment , dragging upside down, the brush that should have been cut .. SLOPPY

@m.e.c.1007 Жыл бұрын

Inexperienced and political protocol are the problems, as well as funding for such teams. I would hope they would have asked AWPs advice, as we've seen other agencies do, but not surprisingly they didn't.

@laurajean7384 Жыл бұрын

@@m.e.c.1007 That's always everyone's hope that they would take their help since they have all the gear there or at least ask for advice or what their plan was especially since AWP Always tells multiple people they planned for removing the vehicle safely & for keeping any evidence or property in place for the investigators & family. It's heart breaking watching the videos when something goes wrong knowing AWP is right there & could have done it better. Plus the family wants them helping which is why they are there but sadly they don't get that choice. If that was my family member honestly I would have been losing my sh*t on them watching how they dumped out & then dragged the vehicle like that. They destroyed any shred of evidence or property they could have possibly gotten.

@crystalfarmer4074 Жыл бұрын

@@unsheepled thats what I said. It's almost like they didn't wanna deal with sifting through the silt and debris.

@billwell9266 Жыл бұрын

could tell in the trailer they weren't serious about it

@lindseymorris7764 Жыл бұрын

I am not one to comment, but watching this episode absolutely broke my heart. The way the AWP team took such time and care when identifying and then preserving this site to then have to stand back and watch law enforcement and inexperienced divers disrespect what is considered the victims gravesite is heart wrenching. At the end of the episode when it said no remains were recovered, I am certain it was due to the disrespect at the scene. God bless his family and know so many of us hurt right along with you when seeing how this story was brought to an end.

@emmmeocacatoo6749 Жыл бұрын

"Training'' is something that happens BEFORE a grieving family is watching you recover their loved one's remains, it's unforgivable that this police department did not avail themselves of AWP's expertise in this recovery. Shame on them. This inexperience reminds me of the recovery of Kiely Rodni's car and remains, where the vehicle was flipped, and contents were strewn about and out of the car. These are gravesites and sacred places, and as much respect as possible is needed with these situations.

@GeeB1 3 ай бұрын

Vermont State Police are poorly trained idiots, uneducated morons, arrogant pigs and racists.

@chevysttruck Жыл бұрын

I've operated wreckers for over 15 years, including for a police dept for 5 years. The way they handled this recovery in my opinion was not only sloppy but incredibly unprofessional. Wrecker position was wrong, the divers didn't stop the pull when the vehicle started to tip, a medium duty wrecker was used which was entirely under powered for this kind of recovery. I'm honestly speechless as to why people who have a certificate think themselves more qualified than those with experience. There would be no remains left to find after they dumped the entire contents of the truck into the moving water. The family are the ones who have to suffer with this kind of incompetence. Shame on this dept for destroying the work you did to bring this family peace.

@grumpynothappy Жыл бұрын

My brother operates a big rotator also and he watched this he said" NO...even upside down in water that truck could have been secured and slowly brought to a side...once secured rest it on tires then inch it to the bank...that tree nor hill should have never touched that truck" I can promise y'all this he is pissed off

@kristinagentry2290 Жыл бұрын

My jaw dropped seeing how they retrieved Donnie's vehicle! It's devastating watching it all go wrong when we all know AWP would have done it correctly! It's a shame that the police don't just accept the help. Donnie's coworker said it best... I hope the family is able to find his remains and finally get the chance to heal 💞

@user-ef4jj7nr1z 5 ай бұрын

I totally agree,

@stephenieervin1726 Жыл бұрын

I am sick to my stomach watching how carelessly they brought the truck in. They had awp right there, it never makes you look dumb to ask for help, it makes you look dumb when it's right there and DON'T ask! My heart and prayers go out to the family. I pray yall are able to get the peace yall so desperately deserve. RIP Donnie.

@5954ldydi Жыл бұрын

Agree wholeheartedly. And yes RIP Donnie and prayers to his family and friends. ❤️

@tracykrol83 Жыл бұрын

I live in massachusetts and law enforcement aren't very kind it's called blue states which most of the north

@elizabethmasseythesouthern6969 Жыл бұрын

Heartbreaking and gut wrenching to watch this recovery💔🥺 Law enforcement really need to utilize AWP’s experience with recovery so families don’t have to experience anymore trauma because this was extremely unacceptable and disrespectful.

@noahhyde8769 Жыл бұрын

I know -- the way they basically just dragged that truck upside-down (spilling out whatever's left inside) RIGHT...THROUGH...A...TREE, at the end, there. It took AWP to find it after all these years...and then it gets delayed again and mistreated at the very, very end by those who couldn't find it in the first place. That's really bad -- and sad. They just had to involve themselves SOMEWHERE in the recovery -- and totally messed it up, in the process.

@acecarne8988 10 ай бұрын

I'm a licensed SCUBA diver and I was utterly appalled to watch how the ego's of law enforcement completely fucked up the recovery. AWP are the world class recovery experts, second to none... and they were relegated to standing 100 feet away... and could only watch it all fall apart. I was utterly devastated to see the truck come up, upside down... that's why the remains were lost. AWP would have brought it up as a nice tight secure bundle, right way up.

@honniehiggins1003 Жыл бұрын

Wow - this one really hurt to watch. Seeing that vehicle being recovered like that was heartbreaking. All I could think of was Donny’s family. To the AWP team, and all the people who work together with them, you are amazing. It’s never a competition, you always focus 100% on the family. You are professional, respectful, compassionate, always maintain the highest level of integrity and most of all, always humble no matter the situation.

@jeanrolfe7242 Жыл бұрын

Well said

@sandymj3w633 Жыл бұрын

Agree whole heartedly. I dislike saying anything against women who have made their way to the top, but ladies there is no 'I' in team & many hands make the work light. Obviously they have never heard of AWP & the care they take to do it right the 1st time. Like the other comments- it made me heart sick as his remains could of been there, but we will never know. 💔 Condolences to Donnie's family.

@pampeoples Жыл бұрын

As heartbreaking as it is for us as viewers to see Donnie's truck pulled in that manner, I can only imagine how the AWP team was feeling, having to stand on the sideline knowing it could have been recovered right side up with any contents still intact. IMO, I think AWP's videos should be used as a teaching resource for search and recovery dive teams all across the country. Thank you Jared, Doug, Nick and all the AWP members for what you do! You guys are amazing!!!

@amandawathey631 Жыл бұрын

I think one member if each police forces dive team should be trained by AWP. They would learn how to do a recovery properly and also learn to ask for help from those who know more and have more experience x

@stevie-ray2020 Жыл бұрын

Totally agree! It's always far better to learn from the experiences of others, than from your own mistakes!

@Dan-hk3ge Жыл бұрын

Agree with all that was said, unfortunately people (bureaucrats) need to feel important and reassured of there worth. Ultimately, our gratitude is always towards AWP.🤗❤️

@kimab65 Жыл бұрын

These guys found it after 16 years and their keystone cops should have stepped aside while AWP did it the right way. RIDICULOUS

@jerrywilcox9890 Жыл бұрын

Doesn't matter how awp feels.

@ratumelimatanatoto2488 7 ай бұрын

The total disregard showed incompetence

@cameroncollins2125 Жыл бұрын

If I were the family of this man, the state and others involved in this recovery would have a lawsuit on their hands. Extremely barbaric the way they handled the situation. Especially with professionals on scene wanting to help. Ridiculous! Thanks AWP for your work.

@mojo7808 Жыл бұрын

When the media says first the police found him? Wow. You guys deserve all the credit in the world. Good work. RIP Donnie.

@roddie1124ify Жыл бұрын

This was hard to watch. Why? That was the worst recovery I've ever seen. I just pray that they were able to dredge all important evidence before this craziness. My heart hurts for the family. I know watching this had to be hard and frustrating. My prayers are with you all ❤️ Thank you AWP for all you do. I know you all would have recovered that truck right side up, contained and intact. You are all heroes in my book ❤️

@hummingbird275 Жыл бұрын

Robin Well stated I LOVE AWP♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️🙏🏼 They da@@ sure know what they are doing ❗️👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

@adampeterson5689 Жыл бұрын

This vehicle recovery is absolutely gutting and infuriating. I can't imagine how Donnie's friends and family must have felt. I hope those responsible for this atrocity have received or will receive appropriate punishment. RIP Donnie, my thoughts are with you and your friends and family.

@teresalinker3772 11 ай бұрын

He told them from the beginning to remove those couple of trees. I am literally speechless at the way this was handled. Rest in Peace Sir! I'm sorry to the family that they had to bare witness to such disrespect! Thank you AWP, for always putting the individual and their family first!

@kristalrogers6827 Жыл бұрын

Thank you AWP for giving answers to my family. ❤️ I hope many many more families get these answers as well. Thank you will never be enough words. You’re all incredible.

@juliao1255 Жыл бұрын

May you and your family find healing and peace, now that Donnie's been found. God bless you.

@TheAndrao Жыл бұрын

Many prayers for you and your family during this extremely difficult time. ❤️❤️❤️

@sidhepro Жыл бұрын

I hope your family can find peace.

@kathydemartino362 Жыл бұрын

Sorry for your loss may god bless your family

@cathyann8827 Жыл бұрын

Love and prayers to you and your family. I'm so glad they were able to bring some type of closure to you all.

@Thegiggy-5678 Жыл бұрын

It’s truly awful how LE handled the truck removal. Not to mention the giggling moment while watching your video. I hope this helps them realize they need to do things better. Once again you guys were amazing and found his vehicle and I hope this helps the family find answers as to what happened. 🙏🏻 RIP Donnie.

@abl89 Жыл бұрын

I literally thought I missed something and had to go back because I was like WHY is she giggling?! But nope, missed nothing. They were just highly inappropriate.

@Thegiggy-5678 Жыл бұрын

@@abl89 Agree

@tracymetivier9247 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely and utterly unprofessional of those two females to giggle like children during the video!

@vickitrapane4400 Жыл бұрын

I noticed the giggling also, and was wondering what was so funny. Nothing funny about any of it!

@Melissa-kp9tc Жыл бұрын

I agree first thing I noticed was how rude that blonde was laughing at finding someone's truck that had been missing 16 years but yet Family were grieving right outside!!!!

@katieprindle4793 Жыл бұрын

Watching the truck come out upside down made my heart absolutely drop. AWP could have done so much better if they were able to assist. I hope Donnie can rest in paradise and the family can begin to heal.

@_HONDISSAN_ Жыл бұрын

There is absolutely no excuse for the way PD handled that recovery.

@kmsichmeller Жыл бұрын

Watching how they removed Donnie's truck and knowing how y'all would have done it was heartbreaking. I mean absolutely no disrespect to LE at all but, having a team on site that is known specifically for underwater recovery and not taking the opportunity to learn from them is such a waste. I'm grateful that Donnie's family was able to have some closure and I pray that they are able to find his remains.

@BostrsBoy Жыл бұрын

It's alright to disrespect LE. They deserve it in this case.

@stacymirba1433 Жыл бұрын

We can disrespect law "enforcement." They aren't angels and they aren't very smart.

@bhilyer Жыл бұрын

There absolutely should be intended to be disrespectful towards LE. They deserve it in this case....

@AmericanGal_69 Жыл бұрын

That was just the most horrifying, disrespectful recovery ever!! They didn't give a crap about him or the family. That was his grave for 16 years and the way they treated it and him is beyond words. Rest in peace buddy🍻

@brianedward6417 Жыл бұрын

If that was his final resting place, maybe they should've left the truck in the river!!!🤦

@AmericanGal_69 Жыл бұрын

@@brianedward6417 once he was found, he deserved to be treated with dignity. They should've let AWP do what they do.

@jaybarclay1656 Жыл бұрын

Thank VT

@mirandaheisler2838 Жыл бұрын

@@AmericanGal_69 you are exactly right

@norfolkngood8960 Жыл бұрын

@@brianedward6417 you could say that about almost every AWP video

@rogue_one87 Жыл бұрын

Watched the entire recovery with my jaw down in shock. The team was kinder with their comments than I would’ve been.

@LP-km7gj Жыл бұрын

Thank you for coming to our state and community and giving the family answers. I lived in Waterbury when Donnie went missing. I only met him a couple times but his dad was a regular at the store I worked at and was so kind and funny. With all the rumors that went around, I am glad the family has some answers now. The way that truck was pulled out looked so unnecessary and unprofessional. Definitely some big egos on our state police force.

@aubreyjackson9770 Жыл бұрын

I can't believe that there is still a police dive team that hasn't heard about your recovery skills by now! It's just a shame they didn't listen, but like you said maybe they will be able to look at this fail and learn something valuable for the next recovery operation. I'm sure they've watched you videos NOW and are cringing at all of their mistakes. Once again AWP was gracious and patient and stood by just in case they were needed. Thank you for always being so professional ❤️ Love you guys!

@moonbeamsmagic Жыл бұрын

And they changed their name to A recovery team and not just a scuba team..... what a joke!

@connieadams607 Жыл бұрын

Cops live under rocks

@karensinclair4189 Жыл бұрын

For them it’s all about claiming and protecting their turf.

@eva32675 Жыл бұрын

AWS finds lost ones, because they have the willingness and care as if they were family. I think police might think, oh no, another one.

@nightbird4747 Жыл бұрын

It's so obvious this team has no clue on how to recover a vehicle under water. What a shame!

@Lynnstar9192 Жыл бұрын

Watching that recovery hurt me. Seeing cases like Samantha Hopper( and her daughter) , James Amible , and Ralph Brown treated with care while these guys pull Donnies truck through a tree without care kills me. I'm so sorry for the family and I hope they are able to find Donnies remains.

@kphelps5431 6 ай бұрын

I worked law enforcement. And after how I seen how the divers handled this. WOW! Id be beyond ashamed and honestly when you have someone who's had many years experience combined. And expertise in this area. Put your pride away. Ask questions, not just use of there equipment. Devise a real plan and beyond anything else do the job right. There actions showed they didnt treat it as a crime scene. But wanted to show off there skills. There work was an embarrassment. My heart goes out to the family. Instead of closing this chapter for the family, they left them with many more unanswered questions. .All due to pride.

@julicooke4266 3 ай бұрын

pride goes before a fall and fall theyy did

@KHarmonTCC Жыл бұрын

It’s heart wrenching the way the locals handled the recovery of that truck. They literally had the TOP EXPERTS in underwater vehicle recovery right there and didn’t use them. I’ve been involved in law enforcement for many years and can guarantee that any agency I have ever worked for would have never ignored resources like that.

@conservativethought1460 Жыл бұрын

It’s all about pride and credit. It’s disgusting

@kimspringer9518 Жыл бұрын

I agree 💯 percent

@DirtyRock Жыл бұрын

They are terrible at their jobs here....a bunch of them got caught faking vaccination cards a year ago even.

@amberhubbard8501 Жыл бұрын

I read an article with local law enforcement talking about how they never give up on cold cases, and that's how this was solved. They literally did give up and this was solved by AWP!

@Miss_Fancyness Жыл бұрын

Yup! They show no respect after AWP makes such large sacrifices to bring some of the missing home. I know most people on East Coast are Rude but there’s also allot of good ones, I’m just saying, that of all the souls LE shouldn’t be so rude when AWP has offered help. I bet LE probably never checked waterways for their missing people. We Live in such an ungrateful world these days but I thank Jared and his team because they have heart and no matter what, they continue pushing forward. May each and everyone of them stay healthy, safe and Blessed

@christydowns783 Жыл бұрын

I hope someone from the family talks to the PD about this recovery because the family deserved better. They had so much experience just sitting on that hill watching and they didn't ask for help or advice. That recovery was a complete balls up and it made me so angry to see how they brought Donnie's truck up onto the bank. Thank you AWP, for always putting the family first

@bonnierakes9393 Жыл бұрын

We should contact them and tell them what a cluster fk they created here.

@teenieneenie630 Жыл бұрын

It wasn't PD, it was State Troopers tripping all over their egos!

@lesliehawkes2504 Жыл бұрын

As always Police screwed up!! Donnie your home now,RIP!

@PlatinumIrishrose Жыл бұрын

we could write to the chief of police and let him know what we think of his officers actions and his decisions. And who exactly they had who could have done the job professionally. I'm writing. Sick of the way awp gets treated sometimes.

@osumbuckeyenut Жыл бұрын

Yeah I'd say they pretty much screwed the pooch on that one... Well done idiots 🤦

@davidmcadams5542 Жыл бұрын

Out of all your videos that you have posted none of them had pissed me off so much as this one I cannot believe how the law just butchered this entire job people need to control their arrogance and let professional help do what they're intended to do God be with you all

@AmandaBrown-dr8jo 5 ай бұрын

I’m so heartbroken for the family and friends as well as AWP having to watch the recovery of the vehicle handled so poorly. There was absolutely no reason why they couldn’t use AWP to retrieve the vehicle. It’s utterly disrespectful and unprofessional to watch how the police handled it. There was no reason why the truck had to be flipped as everything in the vehicle was tipped out and potentially buried back in the river bed. I feel so much for everyone involved for finding him. So sad and heartbreaking for all. And it must’ve been so painful for AWP to watch them destroy the way they tried to protect his vehicle with respect.

@tommychew6544 Жыл бұрын

Unless that VT state dive team were able to completely dredge out the cab of the truck, the way they pulled it out was just heartbreaking. It's sad that some state agencies don't allow you guys to show them how it should be done. You have a heck of a lot more experience than they apparently had.

@lineprestkvrn9014 Жыл бұрын

As no human remains were found, lets hope LE learned how NOT to do things! Experts were at hand ready to assist, but they would rather clumsy around for themselves. They would have done better with a little less pride and a whole lot more desire to learn for the future. After having seen how AWP have developed their skills through time, it was gut wrenching to see how LE went about it. Totally disregarding all advice. 😢

@tommychew6544 Жыл бұрын

@@beanybabii1219 I agree 100%, I know they need to learn how to do it but, if they won't listen to people who have done it before?

@timsmothers8740 Жыл бұрын

What a complete FUBAR Of what would've been a much smoother, and respectful, and a 1000% better job of preserving any remains of Donnie to bring a more complete Closure to His Family, and Friends. The Only Good that could possibly come This From a LE perspective, would Be To Make a "How Not" to remove a submerged vehicle from The Water Training Video and Then move onto Team AWP Demonstrating The way That They have done The Recovery. Because The Vermont State Police should be,throughly ashamed of the outcome of this particular incident and especially after Milking The Likely Overtime Cow and The Totally desecration of Their supposed Crime Scene . Team AWP Told Them what type of Recovery Vehicle they were going to need, but instead They show up with their truck that probably has the license plate reader that they drive around apartment complex and Walmart parking lots in search of vehicles to Repossess . So how many Hours were wasted on that. And As For The AWP Team I,can only imagine what Your True Feelings are Compared to What You really Feel, and say on camera and Maintaining your professional Composure. You need another Channel, a place where You can vent your true inner Feelings, which I, imagine that you do inside The Motor home, in your own post Recovery debriefing. Keep up your Spirits, and doing The Great work that You do. There Now I, feel better now that I've Vented a bit. And if you're ever near Globe Arizona I,would Love to see you do some scanning on Roosevelt Lake and see how many vehicles you would find in That Body of Water. Another Job well done, and boy was I,shocked when Carson did The Original dive and I, saw The Color Red appear. Great Work again Team AWP and that includes The Wives and Girlfriend's and all of the significant others that allow You The Time away to do The Great work That You do !

@dawnkeener9836 Жыл бұрын

@@timsmothers8740 if they did do another channel venting about what should have could have happened.... They would not get the the respect that they receive now. When they first started they were showed no respect at all. They truly need to keep it professional if they want to keep advancing in this feild. Hopefully more LE and agencies will get on board with them. As it is sad to see they sit helplessly to the side knowing exactly what to do in these cases. I really do respect them for keeping their "cool" and whits about them in a time like this.

@kathylavoie3105 Жыл бұрын

I agree with you 110%

@alyssagreer1738 Жыл бұрын

It's heartbreaking to see LE not to utilize your knowledge and equipment to recover Donnie and his truck. News articles say when asked, LE said that they were working with AWP throughout the process to recover properly. Of course we know better. Hopefully his parents aren't familiar with your channel so that they don't know that there could have been a better way to preserve it. Thank you so much for all you guys do!

@Cythan Жыл бұрын

And they seemed eager to blame Irene ignoring awps knowledge for recovery and evidence completely

@anneboyd541 Жыл бұрын

21:04 Erinn said it best. I rarely comment but this is heartbreaking to watch. The pain this family must feel watching the local’s desecrate the resting place (for the past 16 years) of their loved on must be overwhelming. Makes you wonder if remains would have been found if this had been handled professionally & with respect. Sad. Prayers to this family. Thank you AWP for always putting the loved one & their family first & treating them with respect.

@elizabethparga6181 Жыл бұрын

I honestly feel like their was some sort of remain like bones and all but the car been upside down because of them they probably fell out witch is very upsetting and frustraiting

@sofyuchiha9 Жыл бұрын

She did. I hate when these kind of law enforcements treat such devastating and sensitive things like its a freaking pissing contest. This is a matter of closure and what's most important is helping the families who suffered through these tragic events. what the whole point of having law enforcement when you botch the moment that matters most. just mind boggling

@ashleyy613 Жыл бұрын

All ego.. they were terrible with that recovery. Should have let AWP take lead.

@maryscott8929 Жыл бұрын

Why can a family not insist that AWP DO THE RECOVERY, So it can be done at the very least correctly. This one made me cry. As a mom who has lost a son in a car accident, I couldn’t even imagine the horror of seeing that scene knowing that they shook him out by turning it inverted. 😢 very sad indeed

@CarmenDL1 Жыл бұрын

Oh Lord, how awful for Donnie's family (and us) to see that LE not only flipped the truck over while still in the water with it's contents, but to do it AGAIN after being brought out is unconscionable! My condolences to the family. And thanks once again to the terrific AWP teams

@cassiemerrick5803 Жыл бұрын

I feel the same way. This was truly heartbreaking. Maybe they would found traces of him if AWP had handled this recovery. Praying for the family, I am just 30 minutes from the location the truck was found. This happened the year I graduated high-school, it's been a long time. 🙏 I pray he is found!!

@CarmenDL1 Жыл бұрын

@@cassiemerrick5803 AWP would have floated that truck to the surface without flipping it. We've seen them in action time and time again

@tinam2506 Жыл бұрын

Having served in LE for 28 years, this was a horrific vehicle recovery. Clearly they had little to no experience doing this type of crime scene underwater recovery. To have really had a chance for unprecedented training, they should have worked along side with AWP. To the family, I’m so sorry for your loss.

@GeeB1 Жыл бұрын

It's clear they did more than the Vermont State Police would do. VSP is an agency of 99% racist white cops that are USELESS! VSP troopers are always in the news for unjustified shootings, violating people's constitutional rights, harassment or excessive force. VSP IS USELESS!

@jasonwatson8375 Жыл бұрын

The only difference here is they don't run the vehicle through a tree it was in intact until they started rolling the vehicle. But yes in both instances better judgment should have been used. Of course we don't know what kind of limitations they had on that case.

@Valerie_Dawn Жыл бұрын

@@murraychadwick9362 I can tell you. LEO is only interested in solving crimes or literally charging crimes that earn them money. Like traffic tickets. When the driver dies, there is little push to find answers. Same with theft and property damage crimes. No income to the departments. For DUI’s, they get $$$ for each charge. So they try to get drivers to create probable suspicion with standard roadside tests that are designed to fail if the tested person doesn’t know what they are looking for. Raised arm, “Clue”. Dropped foot, “Clue” Three “clues”, your assumed drunk. And they get $ from the federal government.

@judd0112 Жыл бұрын

@@Valerie_Dawn this is Vermont don’t forget. There isn’t many jobs besides you local stuff. There’s no big insurance companies employing 100’s-1000’s of people. They all were growing marijuana indoors and out. When you wonder how someone who hasn’t worked for years has built his own beautiful house. Has 3 cars 2 snowmobiles 3 dirt bikes and big screen tv and u name it. It’s pretty obvious. And they can’t stand people that are not from Vermont yet they need people from out of state to come ski/snowboard spend money buy their ridiculously overpriced weed. But now they’re in a pickle with weed being legalized in all the states surrounding them except theirs go figure. So their green isn’t so sought after anymore. And they can’t sell it to each other lol. Karma. Shows the cops level of investigation ability and common sense. But they will sit right across the street from the local bar and wait for a car with outta state plates to pull out and you know what comes next. I’ve seen it 1ST hand.

@luciewallace9081 Жыл бұрын

@@judd0112 this was a terrible recovery, I've watched too many on here with Doug,and Awp bringing the vehicles out carefully saving the contents to bring the person home. They TURNED this truck upside down for goodness sakes. Poor police and recovery team work.

@danmcentire6925 6 ай бұрын

I have no words. The disrespect!!!! My heart goes out to the family that witnessed this disrespect.

@shannonkollinger1001 Жыл бұрын

I’m in tears at the lack of respect for the family they had!!! How this was handled is so sad and even more heartbreaking!!! Prayers to the family!!

@sarah_snorlax734 Жыл бұрын

I can't believe how badly the cops and the city/county dive team messed the recovery up. I sincerely hope that the family is able to get some answers.. thank AWP for putting so much effort into finding lost loved ones!!!

@lisaforte1575 Жыл бұрын

It wasn't only the cops that showed lack of experience. One of the wrecker operators injured himself as well. AWP was discreet not to show that, but it was in the local news reports.

@lisaforte1575 Жыл бұрын

@@markfoden765 God sure does know how to humble the proud and give grace to the humble!

@deanie3246 Жыл бұрын

I can’t imagine how the family felt watching the truck being ripped violently up the bank. It just seemed to make it so much sadder.

@DenaDeniseRush Жыл бұрын

The AWP team is so careful and and loving and respectful when they pull up the vehicles. And they use tarps. So glad they found him. But how the law enforcement team brought the truck up made me cry. You described it perfectly.

@roseofazure Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Watching this video had me gritting my teeth, seeing the truck just dragged out of the water, upside-down. AWP has the experience and know-how to have safely gotten the truck out, with contents as intact as possible. I don't know why the State Police felt they had to remove the contents from the vehicle first. 😢

@emilyparavicini2065 Жыл бұрын

I wholeheartedly agree. Just sad.

@candylh3440 Жыл бұрын

What baffles me is how they (LE) says they need to treat it as a potential crime scene and then rip it out when AWP would have potentially save much more evidence (and trauma to the family). To be devil’s advocate tho, it was buried. Just let AWP do this LE, they are experts at this at this point!! Much love to AWP team. (Edit: I also commend AWP in how they respond to LE and how they comment on the process. Also Nick, why am I looking at Woody Harelson the whole time)

@annerdee Жыл бұрын

@@CoachKarin They did not find his remains in the truck.The family said they were going to start searching along river banks.

@JoannePughessenceforabundance 11 ай бұрын

First off, my deepest condolences to the family and friends who had to experience this loss for 16 years and then witness this retrieval of your loved one. 💜 On the police dive team, get the hell out of the water, you have no clue what you're doing! Jared told you to cut get longer hose, set up propely on shore to sift through the scrreening for remains and cut those 2 trees down to extract the vehicle. The news crew who reported on this absolutely gave their viewers false informarion because the incompetent police team did NOT find this man's watery grave AWP found him at the request of the family to intervene and find him and AWP did exactly that. This was infuriating to watch and heartbreaking to learn the family still has to conduct further searches on their own for the remains of their family member. Everything about this was just wrong on so many levels.

@Trekkie_Gal Жыл бұрын

Unbelievable that the police didn't bother to ask AWP for advice about how to pull the vehicle out correctly. They should be ashamed. I hope other law enforcement agencies see this and understand that when you have access to experts who have done this kind of thing dozens of times, you don't try to muddle through a recovery like this without help. Great job once again to the AWP team, and condolences to Donnie's family.

@TallTales100 Жыл бұрын

The way the cops handled the recovery made this one of the most heartbreaking yet. I bet the AWP guys were fit to be tied. To have to stand by and watch this happen would have been almost unbearable. Nick said this might be a learning experience for the scuba team. I hope it taught them they don't know what they are doing.

@waltflansburg5608 Жыл бұрын

LE should have been observing & video-taping while AWP did the recovery. Then they would have a real training video to refer to.

@Rockawaysiren Жыл бұрын

Yes exactly- it could have been a good teaching opportunity. Alas.

@sandybryan4117 Жыл бұрын

Double YES!!

@staceyc7068 Жыл бұрын

EXACTLY!!

@TheCompbuzz Жыл бұрын

They probably don't have any experience as it shows in the video. They should probably be practicing on vehicles that might not have remains inside.

@pamelathibodeau1899 Жыл бұрын

When it comes to removing vehicles without compromising the contents, AWP are the professionals. It's a shame that local law enforcement can't recognize that, and use their skills to preserve the evidence and the contents of the vehicles. Not doing so is completely unprofessional.

@christinachaney2919 Жыл бұрын

This is so heartbreaking! They didn’t find any remains because law enforcement dump them in the water when they flipped the truck upside down if this was my loved one i would have caused a big scene

@victoriagds Жыл бұрын

Watching this recovery felt to me like someone took a bulldozer to my loved ones grave site and just used that to dig them up. Absolutely despicable. I’m so sorry for Donnie’s family who now have to process that recovery on top of all the other grief. So, so sorry.

@JennasieHart Жыл бұрын

It’s so incredibly disappointing to see law enforcement act like they did here.

@rachaelmrodgers Жыл бұрын

The disrespect started with the dive team member that was laughing while Nick was trying to give his briefing. This was hard to watch. Guys, I’m sorry this department handled this so poorly. Thank you for still remaining as professional as you do. Absolutely sickening watching the recovery. Obviously there were going to be no remains in that vehicle. Not after what they did. You guys are amazing at what you do, thank you!

@morningmorning4479 Жыл бұрын

Yah they were def NIT hearing anything Nick said They had arms folded and looking down or away . To me they just didn’t care

@Dreamnatl Жыл бұрын

I cringed watching that, they lacked maturity and empathy. I can't believe they brought that truck up that way.

@paprgl Жыл бұрын

I was annoyed, too. I hope the backstory was better than just being scornful of AWP.

@rachaelmrodgers Жыл бұрын

@@paprgl more than anything, I hope they truly recover Donnie. Their lack of professionalism made this a loss. It’s not too late for them to do some good.

@sharonhunter1145 Жыл бұрын

I do believe this has been the most difficult episode I've watched. So many at fault here for this travesty of justice! I have two nephews that own towing companies. It is my hope they would man up and say forget rotation protocols that LE must follow, and simply say we don't have the equipment. Wishing LE could say, sorry, you get the next one and when Elite comes up you'll get theirs too. To loose every ounce of integrity was heart-wrenching

@tiffanysolorzano6601 Жыл бұрын

This just makes me upset at how botched this recovery was. I hope the family gets the closure they need and i hope this “dive team” gets some better training.

@stephaniekendrick7412 3 ай бұрын

I was literally sickened when they turned the truck on its side, and even more so when the truck came out of the water upside down. Incompetence at its finest right there. I am so sorry Donnies family not only had to live with the not knowing for 16 years, but then to have to watch as their LE completely mishandle the entire recovery of his truck. I am saddened that there is that high a level of Incompetence in such a position, when all they needed to do was get rid of their egos, and let the pros do the job right. Thank you AWP for all that you do.

@butchieblock9118 3 ай бұрын

Sadly it seems that incompetence and ignorance (lack of knowledge) and EGO go hand-in-hand.

@stevengibson2251 Жыл бұрын

As an ex 15 year police vet from the Dallas Area, the total botching of this recovery by the L.E. Dive team was hard to watch. I sure hope the supervisors on this quack dive team get reassigned and the rest go through extensive remedial training. There is no excuse agency administration can give for an outcome like this when you know you have equipment and experience people on-scene to assist. P.S. Great job AWP and thanks for all the work and effort you do to help when people need it the most.

@prince77rp Жыл бұрын

But as usual the police will investigate themselves and find no wrong doing, and the laughing hyenas will be promoted

@stevengibson2251 Жыл бұрын

@@asya9493 What I would suggest is the AWP team get some type on Federal Govt. Licensing as a contract underwater forensics recovery team. The reason many LE agencies are reluctant to use them, is if the case ever went to court as a homicide, that would open the door for the defense to question why LE let a bunch of untrained civilians make the recovery instead of the "Licensed Professionals"? Even though they have vastly more experience and expertise, than the "Professional" LE team, AWP is still considered armature private citizens and would be a big risk of tainting a homicide trial. Even if they didn't taint the recovery, that would still be a major hurdle for the prosecution to explain to a jury. They need some type of Federal or National Accreditation in underwater forensics recovery team and many more police agencies would use them.

@stevengibson2251 Жыл бұрын

@@asya9493 Yeah, I think that tree they drug it over was one of the two they said needed to be cut down before pulling the truck out.

@rufusroher Жыл бұрын

@@stevengibson2251 It's so sad the state of politics and governmental control we have been willing to accept over the years, as we become even more technically advanced. Growing up, I remember how many technical jobs were done on an apprentice basis, but very little licensure. Then as I got older I saw how litigious and antagonistic a segment of society became. People talking about corporate wrongdoing, and narrowing it down to some base notion without considering each individual circumstance, with the action groups and lobbyists seeing dollars signs in the lawsuits, and government agencies seeing a way to get their hands in the cookie jar. Now statewide and nationally there is a wide swath of regulations that have come year after year, decade after decade... Along with it, these government agencies at local, county, state, and federal levels have all required some sort of form of licensure. These aren't overseen by actual professionals who ensure that those licensed are quality. They control a political dynamic for the most part. These guys getting a license for what they do don't make them BETTER, nor does the licenses that these government agencies' employees have make them more professional. You see it time and time again. I'm self employed and I have to get a business license in the city I run my business as well as a Health Dept license... I don't have to have more TRAINING to get those... it doesn't make me a better business owner... and the Health Dept doesn't provide me with anything or do anything to make my business more "healthy" to the public. I still run my business the same way I would without those licenses. NOTHING CHANGES! The only thing that has happened is that the agencies, over the years, have started using it as a political weapon they can wield at you if you don't follow their political dogma. Besides that, the agencies who provide the licenses just have a steady stream of income that they use for internal shit, and not for actually DOING anything of importance.... as in... the law enforcement that was always in charge of this case let it sit for decades, and NEVER made any attempt to do what AWP does, leaving the family to wonder WTF happened to their loved ones. They are the sole people licensed, hired, and tasked to DO these jobs... not AWP... and they're getting paid to ACHIEVE these goals. Their licenses haven't made them more successful, more competent, more proactive... I don't get why so many average Americans now believe somehow a license is the end all and be all and somehow instills competence... all it does is bail out the LITIGIOUS nature this nation has developed into... and hamstring real progress. Everything AWP does shows that at every turn... AWP has a lot of PROFESSIONAL detractors on this end regarding "licensure"... Again. It's sad.

@jessclark4019 Жыл бұрын

This team does far far more than any officer or what the county has for dive teams. These guys have solved cold cases where the police has searched. But missed. Some authorities just don't want to put in the extra effort because u don't get paid for it. Neither does this team. They do it all for free to help families. Isn't that what your supposed to do. U guys lazy

@DramaMustRemainOnTheStage Жыл бұрын

This is so heartbreaking. The effort AWP went to in locating Donnie is immeasurable. The locals imo failed at the recovery. Bless his mom, dad, sister, familiy and friends. All of AWP I applaud you. @Erinn I agree 100% with you. Thank you.

@carolemerckel3461 Жыл бұрын

Agree with you 100%!!

@DramaMustRemainOnTheStage Жыл бұрын

@@carolemerckel3461 thank you. People forget that every dive could quickly become life threatening. This is an expensive endeavour as just a hobby. Running two crews is expensive. Jared is a gentle being and has surrounded himself with same. I admire the tenacity they have. The compassion and empathy is so needed these days. They all nudge us gently to remind us all...We are here on a floating ball in the middle of space with no place to flee. We need to all be kind to each other.

@xminusone1 Жыл бұрын

@@stephanie7142 It should have taken a crane. Not a tow truck. But money is king unfortunately.

@susanh.352 Жыл бұрын

This story has touched my heart. Very sad indeed.😢

@DravinD81 Жыл бұрын

@@stephanie7142 Can't sue. Qualified Immunity prevents that. F***ing shameful is what it is, letting their ego lead the way. "I have a badge, so I'm right" or "It's not in the budget" and ignoring the fact AWP doesn't charge and probably could have got crane company to donate services.

@debrarandall6913 6 ай бұрын

That is simply heartbreaking.... God bless him and his family. RIP Donnie.😢 If his remains were inside the truck, there is no way they would have stayed inside the way that truck was brought up... smh Every single case should be handled the same as if the victims were someone they care about. I pray they can find his remains so they may have a proper burial for their loved one. You guys did a great job finding his truck. Too many years passed with no answers at all. Thank you all for giving the family at least some answers.😢 God bless you all. It's a wonderful thing you guys do. ❤️

@Sabure63 6 ай бұрын

It's amazing to me that law enforcement shows up and screws everything up. If they were so proficient it wouldn't have taken 16 years to find him. So much for evidence being found.

@nrstryker Жыл бұрын

Surprised they brought a flatbed, after watching that tactful recovery I half expected them to drag it back to town. Heartbreaking to watch the disrespectful chuckling in the briefing and lack of care in removal. Longtime fan of AWP and consistently shocked by all you accomplish. Amazing work yet again awp, deepest condolences to the family and friends.

@wesbrown2457 Жыл бұрын

"Heartbreaking to watch the disrespectful chuckling in the briefing and lack of care in removal". Agree 100%, clowns with a badge.

@kikirodriguez8293 Жыл бұрын

I noticed the same thing. LE laughing and cutting up.

@juneleicht1261 Жыл бұрын

15:37 Is where the laughter and if you look closely you see three of the ladies eyeing each other and laughing. One lady had a hard time not full out cracking up. So rude, they wouldn't think it was funny if it was their family. Really people have some empathy.

@user-us9go6ul2d Жыл бұрын

I'm not even a family member and I'm offended, screaming at my screen with sadness watching this all unfold. Ego on their chest, couldn't be humble enough to learn from experienced AWP. Nor think about the family and lost loved one. Then pulling out Donnie's truck upside - my heart dropped. How NOT to recover a vehicle and preserve a crime scene. Sincere condolences to Donnies family. Praise and thanks for all you do AWP team!

@DavidJohnson-hg1mz Жыл бұрын

I’m embarrassed as a tow operator. This was completely botched. All that family needed was a toe bone for closure. Now they’ll probably never know for sure. The second the truck started rolling, that recovery should have stopped. AWP needs to make sure departments learn from this.

@AFineLineA Жыл бұрын

@@DavidJohnson-hg1mz Totally agreed!!!

@deborahvretis3195 Жыл бұрын

When I saw the truck up out upside down, I screamed WTF several times. The LE dive team showed arrogance before they even started. then their arrogance cost the family any remains. I am disgusted, to say the least.

@leeannpratt1663 6 ай бұрын

Such blatant disrespect for that man and his family!!! I'm so sorry they wouldn't let you guys do it. You are all amazingly kind and respectful. I believe karma will, in the end, come to those people.

@Pellegrineanita 6 ай бұрын

Massive well done to AWP for all the hard work and locating Donnie and his vehicle xx

@susanneschelander4052 Жыл бұрын

I watched this episode and was disgusted with the way LE took this vehicle out. Then I read the comments and realized I wasn't alone in my thinking. AWP could have secured the integrity of the crime scene. So sad. Lots of love to AWP and to Donnie's family and friends. 💜

@pjk1714 Жыл бұрын

Oh after all that, not even a femur. Just heartbreaking. The wallet and clasped watch is all that remains. That woman spoke the truth, not knowing absolutely no remains were found. I'm so sorry for the families pain and so thankful AWP returned and didn't give up. I hope the community can safely search for any remains. It would be daunting. Thank you for sharing Donnie's story.

@TBRCenter 2 ай бұрын

I was completely mortified for that young man and his family. The professionals should have left it up to people that knew what they were doing. They didn't net anything off. They didn't use the lift bags. They didn't sift the entire vehicle for remains. They turn the vehicle sideways losing evidence. I definitely wouldn't want that team on a crime scene. What a disgrace.

@semperferusartist Жыл бұрын

You guys did, as usual, an amazing job on your part of what you could do. And an even better job of appearing professional and composed watching that absolute sham of a recovery effort. That was a damn travesty and that dive team shouldn't be allowed to touch any more underwater recoveries where possible human remains are concerned. They can "practice" on dumped insurance fraud cases or vandalism. I'm not surprised they didn't find any remains considering they likely dumped them all in the river. It was careless, it was disgusting and it was unnecessary when ya'll had a plan in place to recover the vehicle as intact as possible to preserve it. They tried to make it seem like the first priority was maintaining the integrity of the "crime scene" and then extracting the vehicle... THE VEHICLE IS THE CRIME SCENE. And they flipped it, dumped it, dragged it and yanked it through a damn tree. They didn't give a crap about the integrity of the scene, they were sour you solved a 16 year cold case in days and they didn't want you taking any more credit so they thought their dive team could do just as good of a job... when really the whole thing was a circus once it got in their hands. Disgraceful. Hopefully you continue to find LE in your travels that are willing to work with you and learn from you in future cases.

@bethbailey7720 Жыл бұрын

My heart broke for Donnie's Mom & Dad and all his loved ones, family & friends. The lack of respect on the part of the police department, tow company etc is absolutely disgusting. I can only hope and pray that something like this never happens to someone THEY know and love. AWP had everything needed to do this job, but the stuffed shirts had to step in and strut their stuff. Regardless...they DIDN'T find Donnie's truck, AWP did!!! Donnie, may you rest in peace.

@boots1339 Жыл бұрын

It’s heartbreaking to see that some agencies allow their ego’s get in the way of the real mission of bringing a loved one home. AWP is so humble and willing to aid them in doing it the right way and this agency couldn’t get passed their own ego’s. My prayer’s go out to Donnie’s family and friends

@birdiemarie6480 Жыл бұрын

I agree but it might have something to do with the law.

@jkonrad8598 Жыл бұрын

Its so sad cause they defiently should have consulted with Awp more so it could go smother even if they did not wanna have them help

@laurielaurie8280 Жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@sweetcharlemaigne2335 Жыл бұрын

I understand and have come to support law enforcement needs to be defunded and funds reallocated to private organizations such as AWP.

@jackiedoyle1145 6 ай бұрын

This is so disrespectful. No need to pull the truck out upsidedown. If my loved one was inside that truck i would be livid at police department for being so disrespectful and not handling that truck with respect and care

@oldiemoldie1949 4 ай бұрын

To all the folks who are involved is this organization-I applaud your group. You can’t put a dollar amount for the families to finally have closure. Not always the ideal outcome but closure for these precious families. God bless you all!

@tonyadegrande6615 Жыл бұрын

This was disgusting how they were so egotistical, they put the family through all those hours of unnecessary drama .Nothing worse than law enforcement on a power trip,taking credit or something they didn't even do.Thank you guys for all you do

@laurib1585 9 ай бұрын

Giving us New Englanders a bad name!

@Rocelin13 Жыл бұрын

There was absolutely no respect shown in the way the car was pulled out of the river. My heart goes out to Donnie's family.

@dam_dats_beauty Жыл бұрын

I can't believe this 😥

@amaccoy Жыл бұрын

It didn't seem safe either. At least not as safe as it could have been for the team doing it.

@brianedward6417 Жыл бұрын

Did you not watch the whole video?? It said toward the end, the 2 major floods since 2006 ripped the top of the truck off which is most likely why they didn't recover any remains. Great job Elite Towing Company..💯👍

@Rocelin13 Жыл бұрын

@@brianedward6417 Yes that very well could be the reason why no remains were found but if the extraction was shown more respect they could have confirmed that for sure. However the moment the car was flipped upside down any chance of a 100% confirmation on that was lost.

@brianedward6417 Жыл бұрын

@@Rocelin13 I watched another video few hours ago when the vehicle was upside down but AWP called all the shots and the towing company they hired dragged it out upside down as told to but all the windows were intact, trunk open, and they recovered the remains inside still. Don't blame the police or towing company...Just not fair!!💯

@keepernod2888 Жыл бұрын

Devastating recovery on behalf of the local law enforcement.

@antoniabaker6199 Ай бұрын

I am a retired British born and bred but now in the Philippines but would love to have a foot of Scotland and a tree helping the invirement, What you all do for people is absolutely Brilliant

@capesummergirl 2 ай бұрын

It is astonishing how badly the police bungled this. There are articles about the lack of human remains. MAYBE BECAUSE YOU DUMPED THEM! Such disrespect to that family at a terrible time.

@sngray11 Жыл бұрын

I am shocked that LE refused to utilize AWP’s expertise in recovering Donnie’s vehicle and as a result, totally botched the vehicle’s recovery! smh. Thank you to the entire AWP team for all that you do! 💗 It is wonderful that Donnie’s family finally has some answers and closure so that they can start to heal. Rest in peace Donnie. 🌹

@VaqueritaChih Жыл бұрын

on top of all that, the time it took, a little too much in my opinion😒😒 its pathetic that they didnt even ask AWP for advice, thats the least they could of done.

@alannolet3109 Жыл бұрын

It's been amazing to see law enforcement, who in the early days were almost always adversarial, come around and finally embrace the expertise that AWP brings to the table. Not today though. Was heartbreaking to see their "step aside, we know what we're doing" attitude destroy any chance of finding any of Donnie's remains. They clearly had no clue what they were doing, and I wouldn't trust this law enforcement agency to investigate a parking violation. Respect, as always, to the AWP team - you guys are an inspiration. And sincere condolences to Donnie's loved ones.

@robertwade1906 Жыл бұрын

True that. Extremely sad.

@j.k.6781 Жыл бұрын

to be fair, the whole dive team were women. Just an interesting observation.

@JANN-JAPAN Жыл бұрын

@@j.k.6781 Offensive as hell.

@Good-DaySunshine Жыл бұрын

@@j.k.6781 LOL! What difference does that make?

@robertwade1906 Жыл бұрын

@@Good-DaySunshine do I need to go into the very extreme difference's between men and women physically and with underwater capabilities? If you're old enough to watch this, you should already know...child.

@dk2428 6 ай бұрын

The reason there were no remains found isn't flooding, it's the utterly shameless mishandling of this scene by law enforcement. Hard to watch, really. Poor, poor family, having to go through this roller coaster just to end up officers choosing ego over competence. Criminally disrespectful.

@khristiegriffis2 4 ай бұрын

I’m surprised they even flipped the truck over to put it on the truck since they didn’t seem to care about ripping the truck all the way up the bank upside down. They sure “preserved evidence” absolutely heart wrenching.

@stacieferry4981 Жыл бұрын

I have witnessed AWP work with other police that are humble enough to collaborate with you to bring about better results. Knowing what you have accomplished in the past made this difficult to watch. I’m so proud of your professionalism.

@ginamazzanti7877 Жыл бұрын

Definitely! I knew when the guy on last video said I have people above me, that he wanted nothing to do with AWP helping them. It must be an awful feeling losing their God complexes! So many Police have started to get on board. Why would they not? Call another police department and asked. Just a phone call. And that phone call could have made this a very different outcome. Hell, Doug ran a towing company. Bless AWP for all they do!

@ginamazzanti7877 Жыл бұрын

@jimstand Жыл бұрын

The professionals were on the river bank. The LEOs were screwing things up.

@cholieandresa Жыл бұрын

I feel like every time the LE says “we got it from here” it just doesn’t go right. AWP was there to HELP and then basically they slapped the helping hand away

@mistylynnrose Жыл бұрын

If Donnie only knew how many people are watching this… and cared about him and his family… Rest In Peace. To the family - I know we don’t know you personally… but we care and are praying for you.

@synnfuleyes 4 ай бұрын

So frustrating. They found no remains likely because the county flipped the truck on recovery and then dragged it up the embankment through a tree!!! This family deserved so much better. This was the most frustrating recovery to watch by far.

@SimplyGobsmacked Жыл бұрын

This was absolutely heartbreaking to watch. Dragging Donnie's truck upside down and through the trees insured this family won't get the answers they were looking for. What were the Vermont SP thinking?!?! What an embarrassment for the organization, but I can guarantee you the people responsible will be getting awards for it.

@annpriddy7941 Жыл бұрын

I can’t believe they turned the truck over and dumped everything out. You guys are the experts. If it was my level one I would want you guys in control from start to finish. Thank you AWP for all you do for these families.❤

@KennyHinz Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately it's not your call. The police would override both you and AWP.

@defletcher2902 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I'm wondering if this "Flip Technique" is being taught all over the country to dive/recovery teams. From Vermont to Cali (and everywhere in between?). LE did the same thing to KR's vehicle, losing its contents. They need to get new instructors that know how to do vehicle recovery the right way. Maybe ask some departments that know how to recover a vehicle AND preserve evidence.

@ashmaybe9634 Жыл бұрын

Police divers had already dredged and searched the whole car so there was nothing to dump out.

@hyrulepuffin6527 Жыл бұрын

Watching that truck being dragged upside down up the bank knowing the roof was missing was utterly heartbreaking. That poor family I can’t imagine how they felt watching that 😢

@rosannah.4113 Жыл бұрын

So upsetting. It is definitely to me why they wouldn’t let AWP help, It’s not a snob to law-enforcement, they just have more experience and better equipment… It would make some sense if it was perhaps something to do with foul play, but when it is an accident why wouldn’t you do everything you can to get the family answers. 💔

@hyrulepuffin6527 Жыл бұрын

@@rosannah.4113 it’s awful isn’t it. I’m really hoping it isn’t just another case of law enforcement feeling threatened by AWP’s expertise like it was when they found Nick. I still think about his poor Mother crying when she was saying to the officer how she’d been begging them to search there but had been ignored until AWP helped 😢.

@hyrulepuffin6527 Жыл бұрын

@@carolhagemann3292 I did and it was heartbreaking, I wouldn’t know what to do in that moment if it was my Brother’s truck being dragged out 😢