Solving a tetration equation

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Prime Newtons

Prime Newtons

8 ай бұрын

In this video, I showed how to interpret and solve a tetration equation correctly using basic algebra.

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@The_Digital_Arts_World
@The_Digital_Arts_World 3 ай бұрын
In all of the math courses I have taken through graduate school, I have never heard of tetration. This is absolutely amazing, the instructor is extremely powerful and exciting and yes, even at 71 years old … i learned something. I know I have used the Lambert W function before in math and engineering.
@triggergaming7115
@triggergaming7115 8 ай бұрын
You are not just a teacher, you are my inspiration to learn something new. Thank for it❤
@aroushansenthilkumar
@aroushansenthilkumar 8 ай бұрын
I have an A level mock tmr , this has genuinely helped me understand logs and exponentials better now thank you
@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons 8 ай бұрын
Good luck
@sobad2939
@sobad2939 8 ай бұрын
Never stop learning those who stop learning stop living, what great words with your ability to make math as simple as possible ♥
@dereklenzen2330
@dereklenzen2330 4 ай бұрын
I have a MS in mathematics, and I have actually never worked with the Lambert W function before. (Though I did use tetration once to rewrite a function raised to itself.) You have taught me something new! Thanks for a great video. Subscribing. 🙂
@sourishnanda1809
@sourishnanda1809 6 ай бұрын
Craziest person on earth Love you bro ❤ Solving maths to the next level
@ChatGPTGamingReal
@ChatGPTGamingReal 2 ай бұрын
i absolutely love how familiar yet abstract this problem feels. such a cool solution. thanks for sharing!
@sonicwaveinfinitymiddwelle8555
@sonicwaveinfinitymiddwelle8555 29 күн бұрын
For moment I thought the question was wrong due to 2 superexponents in row but luckily this video explains how to really solve tetrational problem. Something new learned today.
@ZN9_xe
@ZN9_xe 8 ай бұрын
Man, your explanation are amazing ❤
@Xnes__1
@Xnes__1 7 ай бұрын
You are a great teacher! Thanks for information.
@BetaLoversYT
@BetaLoversYT 7 ай бұрын
I am studying Economics at university, and, although this is the first time I see a video of yours, I feel I am going to use this eventually. Thanks for uploading it!
@psevdonim753
@psevdonim753 22 күн бұрын
Чел лучший гетеросексуально логарифмирует! Пик и Эльмир гордятся тобой!
@LucSzI
@LucSzI 7 ай бұрын
These videos truly resparked my interest in mathematics, thank you
@christopherrascon6386
@christopherrascon6386 3 ай бұрын
This is mind-blowing!!! 🤯
@dannygolds
@dannygolds 7 ай бұрын
I'm studying in Russia and I think we have so little knowledges for W-function, or our lecturers just dont' wanna to learn to us with it, jush perfect solution we suggested, master!
@heco.
@heco. 7 ай бұрын
You're absolutely right! We are learning so many complex algebra equations but not the LambertW function. And because of that we can't solve stuff like x^x = 2. I am in my last year of high school but we don't have LambertW function in college. So, I learned it entirely from internet.
@rajibchaudhury7974
@rajibchaudhury7974 27 күн бұрын
You are the only one who think out of the box, Newtons. Superb Video, yet again!!😃
@Kobe24SherlockHolmesChaitanya
@Kobe24SherlockHolmesChaitanya 6 ай бұрын
Other than your amazing way of teaching and your enthusiasm, one more thig i like is the hats
@MathLover13
@MathLover13 20 күн бұрын
The more I watch your videos the more inspired I get to learn more and more keep up the good work❤❤
@parigupta86011
@parigupta86011 7 ай бұрын
Your videos always trigger the mathematician in me ❤❤
@markfekete5078
@markfekete5078 6 ай бұрын
You have all the passion of the world and I really respect that. thx for this equation solving. I'm not a big fan of math but your presentationvwas really great.
@abumarwan6
@abumarwan6 7 ай бұрын
I love explaining mathematics - thanks for your efforts
@ibrahimyazici5651
@ibrahimyazici5651 2 ай бұрын
We need more teachers like him. And he should be idolized by many
@haroldlake1005
@haroldlake1005 Ай бұрын
I am 72 and I´ve never heard something like this, tetration was unknown for me. always we can learn something new, Thank you.
@enzoys
@enzoys 6 ай бұрын
but where does this W function even come from??
@budderman3rd
@budderman3rd Ай бұрын
It's the inverse function of xe^x. Mathematician found there is no way to get x from xe^x, so they figured out what the inverse function would be and how it worked and called it lambert w function or product log. It became a useful function for solving certain equations.
@meowdaruff5621
@meowdaruff5621 7 ай бұрын
i mean i knew how ²x had to be 2, but i got stuck after that so i continued the video great explanation 👍
@davestillhere4169
@davestillhere4169 14 күн бұрын
Lovely, really nice to watch.
@redroach401
@redroach401 7 ай бұрын
Omg i just came from your other video about x to the super power 2 equals 16 and used the same method to solve this and it took less than a minute. Thank you soooo much for yraching me this cool trick
@williamkeitaro8910
@williamkeitaro8910 Ай бұрын
finally a teacher that doesn't unnecessarily overcomplicate things with the "a+b a/b (ab)" thing
@gilmartrevisan
@gilmartrevisan 3 ай бұрын
Nice example, Professor. Tks
@gunssom0078
@gunssom0078 Ай бұрын
I got to ²x = 2, but didn't know Lambert W Function and couldn't solve it. Will watch that Video. Thanks for teaching this in a Clear and Straightforward way
@kumar1036
@kumar1036 8 ай бұрын
Great explanation
@Necrozene
@Necrozene 2 ай бұрын
Great stuff man!
@orsonewe3893
@orsonewe3893 4 ай бұрын
as a 13 year old, this video gave me a piece of mind of how math is really like, it isnt just numbers with the four operations nor sq roots, but it leads me to tetration, a whole new idea of how math works
@manyifung5411
@manyifung5411 3 ай бұрын
I’m 13 years old too!if you’re interesting in maths,I suggest you to learn calculus it’s really fun!
@prateek1.9
@prateek1.9 3 ай бұрын
@@manyifung5411 bruh why you 13 yr olds are getting into this complicated math thing ?you have a beautiful life to enjoy . also , you have to learn calculus anyways after 3 or 4 year later. why not enjoy now
@Dojaesd
@Dojaesd Ай бұрын
@@prateek1.9 some people enjoy math yk.
@carlossantosalmeida6396
@carlossantosalmeida6396 3 ай бұрын
YOU*RE A CRAZY TEACHER! CONGRATULATIONS!
@Mehrdad_Basiry-fj4rl
@Mehrdad_Basiry-fj4rl 6 ай бұрын
Amazing...❤❤❤.
@kieranbishop1481
@kieranbishop1481 8 ай бұрын
Great video
@stevenHUH
@stevenHUH 7 ай бұрын
Well explained sir!
@2106522
@2106522 7 ай бұрын
It was super! 😮 Thank you! 👍
@user-gk9zj8qq4i
@user-gk9zj8qq4i 7 ай бұрын
Since 3^3=27, 3^^2 = 27 (^^ equals tetration), and we should find x that, been tetrated to 2, gives us a 2, so it is just x^x=2
@scarletevans4474
@scarletevans4474 8 ай бұрын
I tried to solve it in my head and ended up equating tetration with exponentiation, getting log(3) instead of log(2)... then, I immediately remembered what you said about our brains, at the beginning of the video! 🤣
@heco.
@heco. 7 ай бұрын
i solved it in my head too. took me like a minute since i am not really used to tetrations.
@vorpal120
@vorpal120 7 ай бұрын
This was great! Thanks for sharing some under taught maths. No one ever showed me this stuff. I'm just playing here but, now for the sarcasm: Never stop learning? Those who never stop learning, forget. Those who stop learning, remember. Meaning I got a finite amount of memory and the more I cram in my head nowadays I tend to lose something else. But if I hold on long enough to what I know. I will remember those memories, longer. I just forgot where I put my keys.... bummer.
@infraredaustrian6714
@infraredaustrian6714 3 ай бұрын
You... next level!
@dilshad003
@dilshad003 4 ай бұрын
Beautiful !
@aminniku6898
@aminniku6898 7 ай бұрын
Thank you, from Iran 🤗
@sudiptoatutube
@sudiptoatutube 8 ай бұрын
First Comment! You are a great teacher.
@venkybabu8140
@venkybabu8140 7 ай бұрын
Super power is somewhat like double integrals and triple etc. because a super power series can always be replaced by integrals. Base depends on grains.
@nikkirolle7032
@nikkirolle7032 3 ай бұрын
Things I love!!!
@michaelbaum6796
@michaelbaum6796 7 ай бұрын
Great👍
@cosmicgarou99
@cosmicgarou99 8 ай бұрын
This is heaven for me 👍, for the love of mathematics
@aryatripathi2486
@aryatripathi2486 8 ай бұрын
How am I, an average 16 year old suddenly finding maths so interesting and dwelling more on it??? Edit: Any INTPs?😀
@HomieSeal
@HomieSeal 8 ай бұрын
Because math is great!
@Bruh-bk6yo
@Bruh-bk6yo 8 ай бұрын
Here comes algebra...
@mrchewy679
@mrchewy679 8 ай бұрын
Because most sciences are actually fun when you know what the hell is going on
@samthedjpro
@samthedjpro 7 ай бұрын
Same but 15 year here
@aryatripathi2486
@aryatripathi2486 7 ай бұрын
@@samthedjpro cooll! we can b friends!
@Mech141
@Mech141 7 ай бұрын
x is 1 because 3 raised tetrated by 2 is equal to 3 to the power of 3 which is 27 and 3 tetrated by 1 is 3 so x=1
@Aerobrake
@Aerobrake 7 ай бұрын
incredible! you got yourself a new sub!
@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons 7 ай бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@Aerobrake
@Aerobrake 7 ай бұрын
Thanks, looking forward to what's ahead!@@PrimeNewtons
@ryanchicago6028
@ryanchicago6028 8 ай бұрын
Looks like Lambert even got to spend time with Euler. Pretty interesting! They knew about non-Euclidean geometry.
@arminklar3613
@arminklar3613 7 ай бұрын
Wow good Präsentation
@cosmicgarou99
@cosmicgarou99 8 ай бұрын
Thank you
@ExpungedFunkyFriday
@ExpungedFunkyFriday 3 ай бұрын
Make a video about every kind of exponential and tetration equations please
@jbot8108
@jbot8108 2 ай бұрын
nice video
@PlatonAltei
@PlatonAltei 6 ай бұрын
So interesting
@DSN.001
@DSN.001 7 ай бұрын
How parenthesis work in tetration, from up to down or vice versa
@user-zf2bk5rk8r
@user-zf2bk5rk8r 6 ай бұрын
Superlog of both sides with base 3 could also eliminate the base 3 on both sides
@ArokoyoEsther-zo4nd
@ArokoyoEsther-zo4nd Ай бұрын
Thanks
@one2too402
@one2too402 4 ай бұрын
I wish if I had got one like you since I was in lower schooling system .. Ah !!!!!
@QuantumCATee
@QuantumCATee 2 ай бұрын
I i had a tutor like you in school then was to be excellent in mathy
@igravity2965
@igravity2965 Ай бұрын
How can we visualize 3 tetrated to the 1.56?
@AbouTaim-Lille
@AbouTaim-Lille 8 ай бұрын
Can you give more detalis on the Lambert W function. If it is just another special function it is ok but we need Its , properties, its division and integral. And Its taylor series.
@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons 8 ай бұрын
Working on it
@iamthekittycat
@iamthekittycat 7 ай бұрын
take superlog base 3 of both sides and you’re left with x^x=2
@Galax1ezX
@Galax1ezX 7 ай бұрын
Take super square root by using Lambert w function
@mrblakeboy1420
@mrblakeboy1420 6 ай бұрын
you can easily see that you have to solve it as 3^^(x^x)=27 , which means you have to solve it as x^x=2. i don’t have enough math experience to solve it from there, probably something with e^ln(x^x)
@Hanible
@Hanible 6 ай бұрын
I did it with mental math, x^x = 2 , because 3^3 = 27 => x = e^(W(ln(2)))
@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons 6 ай бұрын
You are already a pro
@Hanible
@Hanible 6 ай бұрын
@@PrimeNewtons I'm an engineer so yeah in a way I'm pro lmao nice videos you're a great teacher!
@MOVIEPARADISE12
@MOVIEPARADISE12 8 ай бұрын
Pls explain about the pentation
@aryatripathi2486
@aryatripathi2486 8 ай бұрын
hahahha ur like mee
@_Diana_S
@_Diana_S 7 ай бұрын
Where, in what science field, do we use tetration? What natural phenomena can be mathematically described by it?
@Wolfy-pw2py
@Wolfy-pw2py 7 ай бұрын
Mathematician obviously since they deal with all maths related and probably math that involves studying space since the universe is infinite and involve big numbers like from billion up to sextillion and more light years
@LaurentiuSbera-nf3wr
@LaurentiuSbera-nf3wr 7 ай бұрын
Super interesant! Excepțional! 🙏🎩✨🎗️💎 THANK YOU VERRY MUCH ! NEXT?! NEXT?!🌹🙏🎩
@maxborn7400
@maxborn7400 8 ай бұрын
finally getting crazy here lol. Differentiation/Integration of a variable tetration would be interesting. I think it's more complicated than the x^x^x^x you did some time ago.
@aguyontheinternet8436
@aguyontheinternet8436 8 ай бұрын
Well since the function isn't continuous, only defined for positive integers, you'd have to do something _real_ creative to differentiate/Integrate something like 2↑↑x, but it would probably be easier to find a way to extend the function to the reals.
@francaisdeuxbaguetteiii7316
@francaisdeuxbaguetteiii7316 8 ай бұрын
The derivative of the tetration function is as of 2023 not found, and an unsolved problem in mathematics!
@maxborn7400
@maxborn7400 8 ай бұрын
@@aguyontheinternet8436 I would imagine continuation to at least real number line is not an issue: logarithms are known, no matter what "degree" of exponentiation, so something like 1.234^3.678^6.845 is technically defined. It's a mess to write it in tetration form, but something like x↑↑ x etc is defined (Idk how to write tetration on keyboard, but I am abusing notation from Graham's number to get the point across). So technically, a tetration of variable real numbers is defined and continuous.
@flightyavian4580
@flightyavian4580 4 ай бұрын
​@@maxborn7400there's no elementary functions that express the integral of x^x. It simply does not exist.
@y_us_12
@y_us_12 8 ай бұрын
Interesting what is super power of 1.5. Is it a power tower of height 1 and half 😮
@user-xf3pc6yf4y
@user-xf3pc6yf4y 19 күн бұрын
ABSOLUTE CINEMA
@NameUV3
@NameUV3 7 ай бұрын
1.5?
@islammuradov1
@islammuradov1 5 ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤
@user-vz6jz2sv4m
@user-vz6jz2sv4m 19 күн бұрын
How can we solve if the tetration value is a fraction like ½2?
@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons 19 күн бұрын
It must be a positive integer
@neevee_gd
@neevee_gd 8 ай бұрын
the answer is 2? (first question)
@Folorunsho3729
@Folorunsho3729 8 ай бұрын
@ModelTypeZero
@ModelTypeZero Ай бұрын
i figured it was the square root of 2 from the 'therefore' step, is this not correct? (1.41)
@crowreligion
@crowreligion 3 ай бұрын
What is 2 tetrated to 1/2? Can we have a logical answer to this?
@Eduardo-tq5sk
@Eduardo-tq5sk 6 ай бұрын
Do you want a medal?
@aryaprasad9974
@aryaprasad9974 6 ай бұрын
I have a doubt.. how would u solve this: ²2²? Which would u solve first the exponent or tetration?
@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons 6 ай бұрын
That's an interesting question.
@kimutaiboit8516
@kimutaiboit8516 6 ай бұрын
Someome asked about 1.5^X I imagined such a problem. To keep it simple let's start with ½^X That will be 1/(²X) Now for 1.5^X it will be ³X/²X. Just my thoughts.
@sportsloverbaseball
@sportsloverbaseball 5 ай бұрын
I might be misunderstanding, but 1.5^x≠x tetrated to 1.5. It would be 1.5 to the power of x. For tetration, use ^^. For example, the equation is 3^^x^^2=27
@kimutaiboit8516
@kimutaiboit8516 5 ай бұрын
@@sportsloverbaseball I see my error. Thanks.
@sportsloverbaseball
@sportsloverbaseball 5 ай бұрын
@@kimutaiboit8516 np :)
@emmanuelpaygar3736
@emmanuelpaygar3736 8 ай бұрын
Hi how can I go about to solve ˣ2=²ˣ7
@cleinerrn775
@cleinerrn775 6 ай бұрын
Thank God I'm in Med School 🙏🏻
@josipiris5794
@josipiris5794 7 ай бұрын
3 .
@A.A.A543
@A.A.A543 3 ай бұрын
Is this comes in college level maths? Although I know how to solve it but I haven't learnt this in my school.
@samthedjpro
@samthedjpro 7 ай бұрын
How we can build exponents with decimal numbers , like x superpower 3 is ((x power x) power x) but what would be x superpower 1.56 ?
@trifonmag4205
@trifonmag4205 7 ай бұрын
i think that has yet to be defined
@samthedjpro
@samthedjpro 7 ай бұрын
@@trifonmag4205 I thought so, asked my professor he said you don't need to know this 😑
@kimutaiboit8516
@kimutaiboit8516 6 ай бұрын
I imagined such a problem. To keep it simple let's start with ½^X That will be 1/(²X) Now for 1.5^X it will be ³X/²X. Just my thoughts.
@samthedjpro
@samthedjpro 6 ай бұрын
@@kimutaiboit8516 I also thought that but I was wrong as x time x is x² or x^2/1 and x^1/2 will be opposite which is how many times it should be multiple so it makes x which is √x but when we talk superpowers (supeman 😂) ²x will means x power x but x superpower 0.5 must means how many times x should be exponentiate to make x which neither logs or any function can define, if you have any answer please comment 👍
@kimutaiboit8516
@kimutaiboit8516 6 ай бұрын
@samthedjpro let's say x=3 ²3 is 3³ ¹3 is 3 My claim was ½3 is 1/3³ But now that you mention it, I think I have to relook it. The expression I made is for -²3 I think ½3 is undefined as you said. 🤔 PS: What could ⁰3 be? I guess undefined too.
@user-nd7th3hy4l
@user-nd7th3hy4l 2 ай бұрын
X=3^(1/6)
@mrsadmangaming6350
@mrsadmangaming6350 8 ай бұрын
um bro what if the tetration is in the negetive so i mean that what if it was said that 3 raised to the super power -2 . how would u define it?
@freddier47
@freddier47 8 ай бұрын
I remember reading somewhere that we haven’t defined tetration for non-natural numbers yet but I can’t remember where I read that so that could be a complete lie
@mrsadmangaming6350
@mrsadmangaming6350 8 ай бұрын
okh bro still helpful tho :)@@freddier47
@ryanman0083
@ryanman0083 8 ай бұрын
@@freddier47Real numbers are defined We can understand better with super Logarithm (inverse of Tetration) By definition sLog2 (2^^3) = 3 NOTE: "sLog" is a notation for super Logarithm. Like how Logarithm cancels the base leaving the exponent ex. Log2 (2^3) = 3 super Logarithm does the same with Tetration leaving the super power. We can use super Logarithm to solve non integer super powers since super Logarithm is repeated Logarithm by definition. Let's let sLog2 (16) = 3+x Where 0 ≤ x < 1 (represents a 0 or decimal) sLog2 (2^^3) = sLog2 (2^2^2) => Log2(2^2^2) = 2^2 => Log2(2^2) = 2 =>Log2(2) = 1 At this point we've taken three logs representing our integer part of the solution (given by the fact that the answer is equal to 1). We just take log again for the decimal x (the remainder of 2's that we need.) Log2 (1) = 0 Thus sLog2 (16) = 3+0 = 3 Well let's look at what happens when we go backwards through the same process to see what happens to the remainder. Log2 (Log2 (Log2 (Log2 (16)))) = 0 Log2 (Log2 (Log2 (16))) = 2^0 Log2 (Log2 (16)) = 2^2^0 Log2 (16) = 2^2^2^0 16 = 2^2^2^2^0 = 2^2^2 = 2^^(3+0) The remainder adds an extra '2' to the top of the power tower and the additional 2 is raised to the power of the remainder For 0 ≤ x ≤ 1 By definition sLog a(a^^3+x) => a^a^a^a^x By definition of Tetration a^^3+x = a^a^^2+x = a^a^a^^1+x = a^a^a^a^^x a^a^a^a^^x = a^a^a^a^x a^a^a^^x = a^a^a^x a^a^^x = a^a^x a^^x = a^x by definition for 0 ≤ x ≤ 1 We can take for example 3^^e ≈ 3^3^3^(e-2) ≈ 227,914.4 It's complex numbers (i.e. 2^^i) that it's not defined
@ryanman0083
@ryanman0083 8 ай бұрын
For real numbers a^^x = a^x for 0 ≤ x ≤ 1 for negative super powers we use the above definition to extend to negatives -1 ≤ x ≤ 0 a^^x = Log a (a^^x+1) NOTE: because -1 ≤ x ≤ 0 then 0 ≤ (x+1) ≤ 1 thus the above rule applies a^^x = Log a (a^^x+1) = Log a (a^x+1) = (x+1)*Log a(a) = x+1: For -1 ≤ x ≤ 0 a^^-2 is undefined because a^^-2 = Log a(a^^-1) and a^^-1 = 0 by definition so a^^-2 = Log a(0) and you can't have 0 in the Log
@trifonmag4205
@trifonmag4205 7 ай бұрын
@@ryanman0083 actually, complex numbers have been defined too.
@helixfire1198
@helixfire1198 3 ай бұрын
I never learned lambert functions. is that calculus ? Also i barely remember log functions on my texas instrumemts calculator. Im going to watch videos on this. I wish this youtube channel was around years ago when i was in school.
@chandranisahanone
@chandranisahanone 6 ай бұрын
That's the taste of result🗿😈😈
@_sIash
@_sIash 22 күн бұрын
√3
@rayyt5566
@rayyt5566 6 ай бұрын
I swear the most two powerful tools in calculus are the natural log and Lambert W function🤣👍
@notnow7302
@notnow7302 29 күн бұрын
I just realised that aprox of 1,56 = 3-1,44 which is very close to 3-√2
@elasmarsaadallah6126
@elasmarsaadallah6126 4 ай бұрын
Bro !! I can't accept this solution until you define what is ˣa where x ∉ ℕ , please explain
@PrimeNewtons
@PrimeNewtons 4 ай бұрын
x must be an integer
@srijeet9262
@srijeet9262 6 ай бұрын
My question .. X ^ x ^ 3 = 36.
@smile3266
@smile3266 8 ай бұрын
That was great appreciate ur hardwork. Hope u reach 1 M soon No offense but u were not visible may be because of the black board .. u should replace it with an white board ❤
@reubenprasanth271
@reubenprasanth271 8 ай бұрын
🤣🤣 increase your devices brightness
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