SOMA: Journey from Catherine's Eyes
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6 жыл бұрынTHIS VIDEO CONTAINS SPOILERS. IF YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED THE GAME (AND/OR PLANNING TO), BETTER WATCH THE VIDEO AFTER YOU FINISH IT YOURSELF.
So, ̶I̶ ̶w̶a̶s̶ ̶b̶o̶r̶e̶d̶ I had some free time and I decided to record the whole gameplay and then cut out the parts when Catherine isn't activated, just to see how her experience with Simon must have been. I added some different camera angles for the cinematic effect. Also, I cut out the parts when Catherine doesn't interact with Simon (even if activated), just to save time. Enjoy!
Timesamples:
0:00 - Upsilon (Power Plant) - Simon activates the Thermal Plant and makes first contact with Catherine.
0:54 - Upsilon (Comm Center) - Simon finds the "room with the dome ceiling" and makes the second contact with Catherine.
2:00 - Shuttle Tunnel - The shuttle Simon wanted to use to reach Lambda crashes midway to it and Simon contacts Catherine over an intercom to get some help.
2:47 - Lambda - Simon finally reaches Site Lambda and talks to Catherine "face-to-face" (or more like "screen-to-screen").
11:48 - Abandoned "CURIE" Escape Vessel - Catherine and Simon make an attempt to activate a broken EV just outside Lambda (the colors glitched in this one for some reason after the editing process).
12:31 - "CURIE" Escape Vessel - Simon finds a working EV inside "CURIE" ship, but something is blocking its release.
15:40 - Delta - After landing on Delta, Simon and Catherine attempt to use a Zeppelin to reach Theta, but it seems that the Tool Chip in the Omnitool was busted during the crash.
21:42 - Theta Entrance - Simon and Catherine finally find the DUNBAT, but it's quarantined with a security cipher and they need someone who could tell them what it is.
35:59 - Theta Labs - The plan to use the DUNBAT to safely explore the Abyss fails and now Catherine and Simon must find another way to do so.
41:01 - Omicron Annex - Simon reaches Omicron, but the whole site appears to be under the lockdown, except for the small building near the main site.
44:44 - Omicron - Simon finds one of the Power Suits, but it appears to be missing some parts. Simon needs to fix it before he can use it to get down to the Abyss.
52:54 - The Climber - Simon plugs Catherine into the Climber and they share a conversation while slowly descending into the darkness.
59:32 - Phi - After a long journey, Simon finally reaches the last site of PATHOS-ll - "Phi"; and he, along with Catherine, prepare the ARK for the launching.
01:06:29 - Omega Space Gun - Simon and Catherine scan themselves for the ARK and launch it into Space.
01:10:02 - The ARK - Simon and Catherine meet each other in the ARK and embrace, as it slowly leaves the devastated Earth and moves to the Eternity Among the Stars.
@heill232 5 жыл бұрын
"Is that an omnitool you're carrying?" "Oh the door opener?" good.
5 жыл бұрын
Simon: I picked it up at Upsilon -- where I woke up.
@bluecaptainIT 5 жыл бұрын
Never realized you can use this dialogue in a *certain* context
5 жыл бұрын
@@bluecaptainIT Oh. Thanks.
@literallyalois2966 3 жыл бұрын
she when Simon called it 'door opener': "yeah, this one is not part of the bright ones."
@whiteface513abandonedchann8 2 жыл бұрын
@ ironically throughout the entire game during all his time in Pathos-II, both of the suits Simon was transferred into were kept mobile and functional by female dead bodies
@jessicawilliams7350 5 жыл бұрын
It's so weird to think that by the end of the game, Catherine has only really known you for about an hour from her perspective.
@PatrikTothMaster 5 жыл бұрын
Even weirder: In Upsilon (the place you wake up) you find a log with the date the WAU transfered your mind into the suit. At some point Catherine tells you the current date. Simon, apparently, has been wandering around Pathos-II for 2 days at least.
@meowcat3403 5 жыл бұрын
Many unnecessary parts had been skipped or fast forwarded. At most 2 hours even counting cut parts...
@subjectdelta17 5 жыл бұрын
He did cut out a bunch of downtime, like when Simon was exploring the facility and she was sitting in a computer.
@user-nw1je1ur6t 5 жыл бұрын
that actually explains why she found it so hard to consider him a friend
@FinalFinale 5 жыл бұрын
@@PatrikTothMaster On the Soma Wiki (I don't know if it's wrong or not), it states "On March 9, 2104, the WAU uploaded a brain scan of Simon Jarret into a Cortex Chip inside Imogen Reed's body, which has now been placed on a pilot seat in Upsilon (presumably by the WAU as well)" In Phi, Catherine tells Simon that it's May 11, 2104 so that means the events of Soma takes 2 months and 2 days?
@relic323 5 жыл бұрын
The voice acting was really good in this game. Really enjoyed the dialogues.
@TyCollage 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, its very easy to just sit and watch it too just listening to these two never got old on my end.
@wearywanderer7018 3 жыл бұрын
Catherine reacting to Simon being upset and then telling that story on the elevator were fantastic performances
@hornet370 3 жыл бұрын
well at some parts it sounds cheesy, but overall better than most
@beaners1234life 3 жыл бұрын
It’s one of the very few stories that can only be told convincingly through a first person perspective.
@BasileosHerodou 2 жыл бұрын
@@hornet370 kinda cheesy but at the same time they're both artificial intelligences stuck on the bottom of the ocean on a dying world so they're probably coping alot.
@user36able 3 жыл бұрын
It’s so creepy when you realise that this game is essentially just two computers bonding and arguing with each other. It’s like a new kind of ghost story.
@SamuelBlack84 2 жыл бұрын
Ghost in the machine
@leonardopazello503 Жыл бұрын
I know this is a 1 year old comment, but i have to say this If you really think about it, if you don't consider them humans due to the "mutations" and conditions of their existence, than it's also fair to say that the concept of what is a "computer" has also mutated, therefore making them neither a human nor a machine/computer.
@dazzaMusic Жыл бұрын
It’s even more creepy when you hear the former employees all talking like they’re still alive and the ones that actually are alive are on life support by the WAU
@XcooldereX Жыл бұрын
I don't get what's creepy about it. If you're sentient you're alive. Define "ghost". By my definition it's just a non-corporeal form of life.
@Summersong2262 11 ай бұрын
As opposed to the story about ghosts that lived in meat? They're not so different to us. The Chinese Room problem never really ends.
@unknown455667 3 жыл бұрын
From Catherine's perspective, he seemed like he was just emotionally unstable, being angry one second to being comedic; back to being angry and then being deep in though.
@Solaire_of_Astora13 2 жыл бұрын
In fairness, she did send him to missions she was actively monitoring through cameras (something that isn't shown in the video), like Delta. Also, anyone would be reasonably unstable when you're being chased by monsters and walking through the bottom of the ocean while chased by unimaginable horrors. But yes, her reactions are more understandable now, especially the one where Simon wants to speak to her right after telling her he thought she was disgusting. It probably hurt.
@milesbbop9563 7 ай бұрын
Do you see what's going on? I would be emotionally unstable.
@SHDW-nf2ki 2 ай бұрын
Nah Catherine is a manipulative psycho whose too stupid to realize that the arc project is *literally* what the WAU is doing just with less body horror.
@pathetic2399 Ай бұрын
Which is completely reasonable. He also has a brain injury so that probably doesn’t help.
@severalstones Жыл бұрын
I love how Catherine seems equally as confused as you when you first contact her. It never really occurred to me that she probably woke up around the same time you did and figured out what was going on by the time you got there. It was entirely her attitude and willpower that allowed her to stay calm and not go insane.
@WiseOwl_1408 11 ай бұрын
She has all the background understanding of the situation. Made it far easier to deal with than Simons point of view
@severalstones 11 ай бұрын
@@WiseOwl_1408 True! Although, so did all of the other brain scans from Theta who got shoved into robots. Yet Catherine is the only one fully aware of her situation who is stable and coherent.
@InnocentC0 10 ай бұрын
I could imagine that WAU tried to give the test how human will interact in this God forsaken world and this is what they come up.
@JH24821 9 ай бұрын
@@severalstones You make a good point. I think that was because Katherine's psychological profile is different. She's more rational and it's easier to control her emotions. It's says a lot that even someone like her lost control of her emotions at the very end.
@alexr7305 16 күн бұрын
I think she woke up when you started power plant, so she did not spend years alone with herself
@hornet370 3 жыл бұрын
i love how simon explained his trip to alpha so casually "i had to make a quick stop at site alpha to help kill the wau"
@JE-nf2gd 6 жыл бұрын
This really helps contextualise the way she behaves at times. It's easy to forget when playing that from her perspective, regardless of how long it's been and all the shit you've been through, to her she was just talking to you literally a moment ago. Really glad you put this together!
@Shetyre 5 жыл бұрын
doesnt she say at some point that she has a "kind of sense of time"?
@RpTheHotrod 5 жыл бұрын
I know she says that she just keeps popping in and out and missing time. A great example is the elevator down to the bottom of the ocean. 56:48 she literally continues a sentence without stopping despite there being a major interruption.
@esppupsnkits4560 5 жыл бұрын
Colby Boucher 1) meh, she could just be super stressed and trying to focus on not being stressed. 2) I didn’t know there were still people who thought autism (and Asperger’s) weren’t real
@101Mant 5 жыл бұрын
@@esppupsnkits4560 if you read the logs when people talk about her they describe her as being very awkward around people, one guy describes her as making him feel uncomfortable. She also shows a lack of empathy multiple times such as when you repeatedly run the simulation to get the security codes effectively killing the same guy over and over. None of it means she is autistic, but she definitely isnt very good with people.
@esppupsnkits4560 5 жыл бұрын
Mark Antill right! My thing is that I hate people being like “oh, that character acts weird, they must have autism”. Thank you for providing some decent evidence to back up the possibility of either a social disorder or Asperger’s
@evanyang3310 4 жыл бұрын
If Catherine wasn't knocked down by the Flesher we would have a walking talking robot companion with us now
@squeaktheswan2007 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine trying to outrun her.
@whiteface513abandonedchann8 2 жыл бұрын
@@squeaktheswan2007 she'd probably be about as mobile as the Construct, the first enemy, and therefore would probably not stay intact the whole way through
@squeaktheswan2007 2 жыл бұрын
@@whiteface513abandonedchann8 So she'd break?
@whiteface513abandonedchann8 2 жыл бұрын
@@squeaktheswan2007 most likely. There's a chance there would be a later opportunity to put her in the omnitool anyways, but as it went ingame was the safest for her
@squeaktheswan2007 2 жыл бұрын
@@whiteface513abandonedchann8 I guess I can see that.
@dedsec_2389 5 жыл бұрын
"Hold onto something!" *proceeds to grab a fire extinguisher*
@cptray-steam 4 жыл бұрын
Well she didnt really specify so... Lol
@camiko2701 4 жыл бұрын
If you also didn't grab a fire extinguisher during this scene then you're playing it wrong.
@wearywanderer7018 3 жыл бұрын
When was that in the video?
@Pieteek 3 жыл бұрын
@@wearywanderer7018 about 14:40
@octimus2000 3 жыл бұрын
We all did that haha
@shachi_edits 5 жыл бұрын
42:35 *Spinning chair on one finger* "Catherine... Are we alive?"
@thefalloutwiki 5 жыл бұрын
shachi_edits right next to dude with exploded to smithereens skull
@flamingsword9214 5 жыл бұрын
Basically me when I'm laying on the couch talking to someone on discord
@FurryWrecker911 5 жыл бұрын
I honestly had no clue you could spin objects in this game. Damn, I need to replay it now.
@Handhandme 4 жыл бұрын
ah you bastard you beat me to it
@MisterJohnDoe Жыл бұрын
I just imagined it as him normally placing a chair upright with both arms.
@TheLucidChiba 5 жыл бұрын
19:52 I love her delivery here, the VA did a wonderful job as Catherine.
@RADIOACTIVEBUNY 5 жыл бұрын
She did. Catherine is a little weird, but it mostly just makes her really cute. VA did it perfectly.
@junkbucket50 5 жыл бұрын
51:10 I like her little laugh at the end of the sentence as well. And the argument that happens after, great voice acting
@ZER-cr4dm 4 жыл бұрын
52:00 Her voice is so cute and sexy omg
@user-sl5zk3vc5p 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZER-cr4dm shut up
@Sir_Bucket 11 ай бұрын
Unlike Simon who's soooo bland
@thefalloutwiki 5 жыл бұрын
14:34 “ok here we go, hold on to something!!” * picks up fire extinguisher * 😆
@johnbishop9621 5 жыл бұрын
Glad I was not the only one lol
@thefalloutwiki 5 жыл бұрын
John Bishop right?! 😆😆
@helpiamstuckonthismanshead3385 5 жыл бұрын
@@thefalloutwiki bf1?
5 жыл бұрын
Simon: Can you steer this thing?
@Nox93 4 жыл бұрын
i did laugh, stopped there, scrolled down to see if anyone did the same. hello.
@Renouf 4 жыл бұрын
The writing in this game is phenomenal. And I know Catherine's the star, but honestly Simon is just as stellar. I totally forgot it was HIS choice to go get the ARK.
@Thesavagesouls 10 ай бұрын
In what world Catherine is the star ? She is so cold, Simon is the one you feel the game through with hope and dispair.
@Thesavagesouls 10 ай бұрын
In what world Catherine is the star ? She is so cold, Simon is the one you feel the game through with hope and dispair.
@tetrafuse3096 10 ай бұрын
@@Thesavagesouls it is the only one who helps you on your journey
@TheD736 10 ай бұрын
@@Thesavagesoulsin this specific video Catherine is the one we have the perspective of
@wonderguardstalker 10 ай бұрын
Simon is so braindead and rude I never felt for him, unlike Catherine who actually appreciates the situations they’re in. I totally forgot how much of a baby he was being in the beginning limply helping Catherine. Also his refusal to understand what’s going on reminded me of the Prestige discourse all over again lol
@Gnorkadork 3 жыл бұрын
That moment when the stranger you met not even 30 minutes ago rummages through your private stuff and throws you stuff all over your room and you can't do anything about it. When I was playing I thought of it from Simon's perspective and since it's been so long since I picked her up it felt like we were getting to know each other and we were becoming friends. But from her perspective... she sounds uncomfortable but with their stark power imbalance, she can't really talk back because she needs him cooperative to launch the arc for her. From her perspective with so much less time she suddenly feels much less friendly towards Simon and more polite but detached and somewhat pitying. That's so interesting.
@Thesavagesouls 10 ай бұрын
She clearly consider Simon like a tool and not a sentient being.
@InnocentC0 10 ай бұрын
I mean, in the first place, it was his idea to continue the project and insist to launch the ark into space. She already tried to object on the idea. But, she gave in his optimistic, or his desperate to not think on situation. Also, it is because both of them have nothing else to do. Abandoning project midway won't be good for both of them and they knew it vaguely, which is why they have to keep going.
@bbenjoe 5 жыл бұрын
It's impressive how every base in this game is freaky in a different way.
@zhujik 2 жыл бұрын
56:56 "“I’m sure everyone everyone would like to meet the time traveler.. if not, you still have me. I know its not much, but..." dang, what a depressing line.
@Jabersson 2 жыл бұрын
This makes Catherine's last line of dialogue so much more upsetting (the Tau Cath, not the ARK copy). You're in a heated argument with your friend of 1 hour, trying to make him get how copying works for the 3rd time, while dealing with the fact that you have to be happy for "someone else" reaping the benefits of your hard work, and then your entire existence just gets cut, mid-fuck
@hangry3102 8 ай бұрын
Understandably she had it bad being stuck inside an Omni tool, but at least she didn't have to die alone like Simon.
@BraveSpy 8 ай бұрын
not alone, but still, she died too@@hangry3102
@pattycakes2723 8 ай бұрын
that's the worst part, Simon isn't dead, just in darkness for eternity haha like a lil BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITCH@@hangry3102
@pathetic2399 Ай бұрын
She deliberately mislead him about how copying works by describing it as transferring and a coin toss, implying you can win or lose, when the person being copied will always lose since there was never a chance of them ever being carried over. She kinda brought his anger and her death on herself in the end.
@pathetic2399 Ай бұрын
@@hangry3102 She didn’t care about being stuck in the omnitool and said it multiple times throughout the game. Much more comfortable being a robot
@Handhandme 4 жыл бұрын
42:35 *examining chair* Catherine... a r e w e a l i v e?
@thomasgomez6218 4 жыл бұрын
“Could you do me a favor?” “Would you kindly?”
@ZenMonkeyGod 4 жыл бұрын
Glad I'm not the only one who ever made that observation. It is rather similar and led me to make false predeterminations on her intentions.
@frysco5927 4 жыл бұрын
Is that a Bioshock reference
@Solaire_of_Astora13 2 жыл бұрын
There is no real connection between those lines here.
@alfredogonzalez2857 2 жыл бұрын
The game always says you that Catherine was a socially awkward person. She barely has no friends in pathos. Her colleagues thought she was a weirdo. She even think that about herself. That's why shes selfish in phi with the ark. She felt betrayed from her colleagues for killing her. Later She wonder about how it's to have a real friend. Poor Catherine
@AngelVocal 2 жыл бұрын
Well.. in one of the voicelines, Lindwell (?) said that people do like her, that Catherine just had to open up a bit more, even if some thought she was a bit weird.
@WanderTheNomad Жыл бұрын
I remember hearing her hesitating to call Imogen Reed her friend, probably because she had doubts about if Reed saw her in the same way. 40:06
@pathetic2399 Ай бұрын
Ngl, I like Catherine as a character but, given her attitude, I can see why she would be disliked. She has way less empathy for the things and people around her than Simon does and is very mission oriented at Simon’s and other peoples expenses. She also technically did mislead Simon for the majority of the game, playing into the fact that he also couldn’t actually comprehend what the transfer process really meant, and is shown to be manipulative in other instances.
@TheALPHA1550 Күн бұрын
@@pathetic2399 Well said. Although she lacks some empathy, mislead Simon, and a bit of recluse and socially awkward, I believe still has redeeming qualities such as being the creator of the ARK Project and ultimately wanted to launch "mankind" for a chance of survival.
@averyscott7442 4 жыл бұрын
21:15 an expertly avoided question.
@seaschulainn 5 жыл бұрын
31:21 was one of the freakiest parts for me.
@shadowman7307 5 жыл бұрын
"Something wants us to come inside.." "And we want to go inside. What's the problem?" Her overoptimism and carelessness bother me everytime I hear her talk.
5 жыл бұрын
"Come on, let's get going."
@InnocentC0 5 жыл бұрын
I mean there is not much of choice. You can't avoid it anyway. Might as well just keep going optimisticly.
@andrewche4066 5 жыл бұрын
SPOILER ALERT Maybe she connected to the computers in Omicron and found out Ross was the one unlocking the gate? And that Ross shouldn't be hostile (at the moment)? Pure speculation though
@InnocentC0 5 жыл бұрын
@@andrewche4066 She said her view was limited and heavily restrict on access. I don't think she would have known that. *spoiler* If she can access that, she should be creeped out by headless body all over the places and it would be scarier for her.
@andrewche4066 5 жыл бұрын
@@InnocentC0 To be fair, she mentioned the "limited view" only before Simon powered up the station Though I don't remember any evidence suggesting she had access to Omicron's computers from that little annex
@colecoke6996 5 жыл бұрын
Catherine talks really cute
@l3monh 5 жыл бұрын
@JV-tk9yn 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I low key fell in love 😫
@cptray-steam 4 жыл бұрын
@@JV-tk9yn same
@Gentamoru 4 жыл бұрын
Are you in love with a robot?
@cptray-steam 4 жыл бұрын
@@Gentamoru yes
@dercarrot991 4 жыл бұрын
51:28 that scene is fucking chilling. You realize you’ve been duplicated and just realize in an instant he’ll wake up alone and Catharine sounds so sorry
@Scrittlescrattle 3 жыл бұрын
I know it's one of those *really* heavy moments in the game.
@lwdrd 2 жыл бұрын
The thing is, it's just a robot it's just a machine mimicking emotions, but because of the character progression you feel attached to simmon
@d.sherman8563 Жыл бұрын
@@lwdrd Well that is the question the game begs you to ask, what does it mean to be human, and in more general terms, to be. Are the copied Simon's any less real if they have the full perfect copy of his conciousness? They might not be the 'original', but does that make them fake? Don't they just become new living entities with a shared past but diverging futures due to diverging experiences? Would you feel the same way if it wasn't a robot the conciousness got transfered into but rather a perfect biological copy down to the celular level. Would it still be a machine that you could just 'switch off' because it wasn't the original? If not, what is different in that scenario?
@georgsgrants9925 Жыл бұрын
Looking at the timestamp I get catherine’s anger at the ark transfer now. Simon’s breakdown at the end was like 15 minutes after this. From her perspective she literally did just tell him about it
@dkcsi9256 10 ай бұрын
@@lwdrdIts not “mimicking” human emotions. Its literally a human’s consciousness. Those ARE human emotions. You ARE your consciousness, your flesh chassis has just as little bearing on your humanity as a metal chassis. The body the consciousness is held in doesn’t matter, unless we’re gonna start saying people with prosthetics are less human.
@Noxamilian 3 жыл бұрын
"WOW, Thanks Simon. i didnt know being an asshole wasnt invented untill the 22nd century." best fucking line lmao
@TheManWhoDestroyedTheWorld Жыл бұрын
56:55 So ironic that the power goes out exactly during Catherine's saying that Simon 'still has her'
@cptray-steam 4 жыл бұрын
Simon is going to have some serious PTSD. Especially after killing that robot that spoke like a human.
@noco-pf3vj 2 жыл бұрын
And Catherine made it worse when saying, it like a dog...
@lwdrd 2 жыл бұрын
Ptsd is a brain thing, it's when our brains have a traumatic experience and it sticks with us, robots can't have trauma, well I guess they could mimic trauma but how does data mimic trauma
@NotMrWhy Жыл бұрын
@@lwdrdI would disagree, the robots are not just brain scans, they are simulations based on those scans, otherwise they wouldn't have been able to think at all. So your argument is dumb and I don't care that its been a year🤓
@amymorgan886 10 ай бұрын
@@lwdrd thats kinda the point. at what line are we human. what makes us us. these are the big questions the game wants us to think about.
@TitaniumSubscriber 5 жыл бұрын
51:35 and 52:57 are the best of their dialogues, just so sad
@Thfoxpz 5 жыл бұрын
1:01:00 Me throughout the whole game
@FurryWrecker911 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone else notice how Cath's ID name on the Omnitool becomes more and more corrupted as the game progresses?
@reinstate317 Жыл бұрын
woah really
@WanderTheNomad Жыл бұрын
@Y Yung It's cuz even though the WAU is causing all this messed up stuff to happen, they all know it has no malicious intent.
@FargonNemeloc 10 ай бұрын
The WAU is like the paperclip machine or the perfect postcard machine the paperclip at some point will conclude taking other materials besides metal will allow for the creation of more paperclips, and since limits weren't stablished, humans are fare game as material, it wont care that paperclips wont be sold anymore, just make more, thats its whole goal and purpose The perfect postcard will conclude that humans will never be satisfied with the perfect postcard, no matter how much it tries, so the best way to achieve the perfect postcard is that no human ever judges it again, and the easiest way is to erradicate humans from existence The objective of the WAU is to ensure humans survive within its own resources, if that means demented fake bodies, digital copies on corpses or a literal human on permanent life support living a pathetic, anchored and painful eternity, its all fair game
@deci2723 9 ай бұрын
@@FargonNemelocWAU was actually getting better and better at simulating life.
@kryyto6587 7 ай бұрын
@@deci2723 Simon is the perfect example of that
@ItsCrayon 5 жыл бұрын
Wow this really shines a light on how she feels. As Simon you go through the entire game seeing everything and getting more of the story but like she said she just wakes up where you want/need her to wake up. She doesn't see the path in the middle or the story you get to see which really does make her completely left in the blue without any of the story you get only what she knew at the time of her brain scan which makes her just as clueless as you.
@wanderingbufoon 4 жыл бұрын
She already explained that it isn’t the case for her. Time is like flicking a switch so she experienced everything and when he takes her and plugs her back in, she’s in a new environment in a blink of an eye. “Editing a live video” Basically try this: talk about something that happens in your day and have someone flip the light switch (turn it off and back on) real quick and when that happens, the entire room has changed, the other person looks different. You yourself have experienced no time passed. She’s basically living the story based on what you tell her. It’s like having to talk to someone and not facing them for awhile and facing them back again and you see them bleeding. You didn’t end your conversation but now you are interrupted to ask what you just missed in the span of you looking away while chatting
@cptray-steam 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder what she thought when she noticed his hand was gone... we know what she said but not what was going through her 'mind'.
@OutyBanjo 5 жыл бұрын
Now, I'll bet this Simon really wishes he hadn't haphazardly axed every intelligent thing still alive on Pathos II. Sometimes, you're the one who has to stay behind, dude.
@seaschulainn 5 жыл бұрын
Either the deranged or helper robot are still around somewhere Haha. When the omnitool goes out I like to think her chip was okay and can be plugged into something else. . .
@pepi.n0 5 жыл бұрын
Chel Sea I wish but when the Door thingy was put into the machine everything went offline including the Omni tool and her chip
@space3817 4 жыл бұрын
he could have other simon, and that cut content dude at the start of the game
@WobblesandBean 4 жыл бұрын
There's no way he'd be able to get back there at this point. So no matter what, it's for the best if you choose to kill Amy and ultimately, the WAU.
@SillyUwUBilly 3 жыл бұрын
@@detonatressm9400 Cortex chip ? Caterine is kil ?
@RoseDotWav 3 жыл бұрын
54:37 - 56:56 This Is the most beautiful piece of dialogue I’ve heard in a game to this day... it’s what made it impossible for me to hate Catherine for her decisions.
@Rishikplays 11 ай бұрын
I just came to hear this again I’m so glad someone feels the same way
@Thesavagesouls 10 ай бұрын
You're a psychopath if you think she is a likeable character. She knew simon didn't understand how transfering to the ark works. Yet she kept him in the dark so he could accomplish her bidings.
@RoseDotWav 10 ай бұрын
@@Thesavagesouls Someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. You wanna calm down, bud?
@russetwolf13 10 ай бұрын
@@Thesavagesoulsimagine answering the question "do you wanna clone yourself or do you wanna die alone?" And thinking dying alone is a legit answer.
@Larry-Lobster 10 ай бұрын
@@Thesavagesouls well yea, considering her “bidding” is giving humanity the last chance it had to survive in some way/form, it’s understandable why she did what she did
@famosoanonimo602 Жыл бұрын
Funny, she's just a voice and still one of the best companions on a horror game
@relic323 5 жыл бұрын
Wish they had an expansion where you live out the rest of simon's life under the sea.
@Aeryix 5 жыл бұрын
ive been constantly thinking about the ending since i recently finished it, i would love to come to a conclusion and know what happens at the end
@Spooky_Squid 5 жыл бұрын
@@Aeryix he would've been stuck in the launch dome considering the omnitool malfunctioned. All alone on the bottom of the deep sea and stuck in a small dome area with nothing but WAU monsters around you? I can't see any other outcome than him eventually taking off his helmet or something to kill himself.
@MrSunnyboy1999 5 жыл бұрын
I like to believe that Simon 3 exited the dome and got Catherine to work again by replacing the busted cortex chip. But thats probably the most optimistic outlook you can have lol. A canon expansion wouldve been the shit tho, sad it was cancelled.
@rachetix2077 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrSunnyboy1999 There is a cancelled expansion?!
@SuperGeronimo999 5 жыл бұрын
Probably planned (like so much) but dropped... same with all those empty "decisions". Like, deleting Brandon Wan from the Ark or keeping him. Killing the WAU or not. Let Amy live or die...
@Cragmortis 5 жыл бұрын
She was a robot thing till she got knocked down..I wonder how it would have been having her follow you around like that..
@nengthao5618 5 жыл бұрын
That be awesome. It be cool we can pet her too.
@InnocentC0 5 жыл бұрын
Just pet Omnitool, then.
@wanderingbufoon 4 жыл бұрын
Killing that robot to get the chip would take a whole different context and meaning
@cptray-steam 4 жыл бұрын
@@nengthao5618 lol I don't think she would have liked that but I would have done it anyway.
@nengthao5618 4 жыл бұрын
@@cptray-steam well then she gets no treats. Hahahah
@89BlackGatomon 4 жыл бұрын
I love the game. There is even a "wussy mode" were the Wau creature let you mostly alone... Perfect to simply enjoy the game background and music
@Solaire_of_Astora13 2 жыл бұрын
I thought it would be weird sex mod because of the whole "who wants their waussy ate?" thing. Glad I was wrong.
@VanDeSam69 Жыл бұрын
@@Solaire_of_Astora13 what
@InnocentC0 10 ай бұрын
I think truly alone would make you crazy. At some point, listening to the same music over and over would make you go crazy.
@89BlackGatomon 10 ай бұрын
@@InnocentC0 nope, enjoying it still. Its quite the timeless beautiful emptyness one can enjoy from time to time. But constantly? Eventually perhaps yes.
@n646n 3 ай бұрын
@@Solaire_of_Astora13 Honestly.... would that be so bad?
@hangry3102 8 ай бұрын
1:06:24 Catherine uses the language "transfer" here instead of "copy." Honestly that was a huge f up on her part considering how obviously hopefull Simon is here. I didn't catch this on my first time, and it makes Simon's anger at the end feel even more understandable.
@zafelrede4884 8 ай бұрын
I think she could guess that Simon was still thinking wrong, and decided to play along so they could atleast launch the ARK before he figures it out.
@DiscoTimelordASD 8 ай бұрын
@@zafelrede4884Agreed.
@pathetic2399 Ай бұрын
She definitely chose that language carefully because she didn’t want Simon to back out of the mission.
@a.k8185 11 ай бұрын
Catheribe mentioning that Simon's a "walking talking diving suit" really is of note, especially when you consider the stuff you learn much later.
@theyremykidstoo1642 4 жыл бұрын
The voice acting in this game is great, just great.
@TheManWhoDestroyedTheWorld Жыл бұрын
10:00 Just imagine if Catherine & Co. DID manage to launch the Ark into space. She would go sth like:'Oh, thank goodness! My life's work was a success. See ya!' and shutdown for good, leaving Simon alone.
@ndr_32 4 жыл бұрын
Catherine was a real hero... I mean, she didn't create the WAU, nor the brain scans, nor created the idea of humans and machines fusing... she just used the technologies to save humankind... sort of... And the worst part, she was blamed for everythinng, the WAU, the suicides... and then they stole her project and killed her. So sad... If I was at Pathos II, I would have befriended her to her.
@lwdrd 2 жыл бұрын
Meh she kinda just, put a computer full of memories into a space ship, not really saving humanity just kinda saving a bunch of doubleganger computers
@mikicerise6250 Жыл бұрын
She did the best she could, and she was surrounded by idiots to the last. :p
@WanderTheNomad Жыл бұрын
@@mikicerise6250 Not necessarily idiots, just people with different perspectives. Like killing your previous body to preserve the continuity, or shutting down the project that is causing people to kill themselves, or not wanting to risk the last hope of humanity going up in flames. People aren't always gonna agree on things, and it's not helpful to think of them as just dumb, that they haven't thought about their decisions at all, because they have. They've just reached a different conclusion than you have because of all the different aspects of their life affecting their thought process.
@S.Ashina Жыл бұрын
@@lwdrd Well, the world has already ended, there's nothing else they can do.
@freespeech3817 10 ай бұрын
@@lwdrd Those scans on the ARK could have been always transfered into other mechanical bodies. And being that is fully sentient is alive, the body part is just addition to sentient mind. To be honest WAU did it job since it created mechanical humans - Simon is the best example that it already got much better at it considering it firsts attempts at Ominicron. Image talking to your own copy in a mechanical body, would you kill yourself without second thought claiming that your copy isn`t human? It is the same problem that 500 years ago humans had when encoutering people of different skin claiming they aren`t human because they are different.
@tensaibr 5 жыл бұрын
Catherine is a sweet, warm character. And I mean this literally. Yeah. She did use Simon and lied to him. But seeing from her point of view, Simon was the last chance at all to save something from humanity. If she failed this one chance, that would be it. Being a scientist as she is, she went for the rational approach. And I don't blame her for it. She cared for Simon and was not happy of her choices but she cared. Otherwise she wouldn't have uploaded and met him on the Ark.
@stevenagelutton4322 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think she ever directly lies to simon, she just never corrects simon when he makes the wrong assumption if it's helpful to her that simon believes it. Simon should have known after Omicron that "getting on the ark" isn't a direct transplant, it's not catherine's fault he misunderstood
@bi__tw1097 5 жыл бұрын
@Erşan Kuneri I think you clearly didnt get it. Simon version 4 in the ARC is clearly belived the "transfer" process was successful. He really happy for that and he didnt even care for Simon ver 3 abandoned on the bottom of the ocean. You see , thats the matter of perspective - i guess no man can accept this fate being in the shoes of simon v3.
@bi__tw1097 5 жыл бұрын
@Erşan Kuneri i know. On 54:03 Simon version 3 obviously understand how this works. I guess Its just a hard pill to swallow for him at the end...
@rachetix2077 5 жыл бұрын
@Erşan Kuneri There's really no coin toss. We play as Simon 3 just so we can continue the game.
@ManOfAnswers 5 жыл бұрын
@@stevenagelutton4322 That'd be a lie of omission if she never correct him. Still understand her action all throughout this.
@davidmedford1166 3 жыл бұрын
Her journey was relatively peaceful compared to Simons....
@WobblesandBean 4 жыл бұрын
27:47 😂 Ahh...Such a criminally underrated game. 💜
@anord1725 3 жыл бұрын
Simon reaction to being a copy of him:WTF My reaction to a copy of me:So if i shoot me thats in the ark in space i will remain? Oh cool then i will come back for old simon to play cards with
@robbay8610 3 жыл бұрын
Every copy happy, nice
@KingThrillgore 2 жыл бұрын
I get the sense Simon-2 and 3 aren't really bright even though he has a built in flashlight.
@meiru2453 Жыл бұрын
Riiiight, and you clearly try to ACTUALLY imagine yourself in that situation, and not just meme about it. You think from a player perspective when you don't feel the weight and the reality of the situation. Then you imagine its going to be fun and games playing "cards" with your own copy. You really imagine doing that forever? For the eternity until the earth gets hit by another comet and hopefully destroys everything this time?
@1ztype343 11 ай бұрын
my copies would just call each other retarded until it broke into whatever you call a fight.
@MichaelPolios 4 жыл бұрын
I soooo would have fallen for her...
@cptray-steam 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@Alvacka97 3 жыл бұрын
Simon probably did as well, especially the one in the Ark.
@user-sl5zk3vc5p 2 жыл бұрын
@@Alvacka97 yes
@paperfox5292 2 жыл бұрын
@@lucybaby1424 bhet they dhit nhot
@lwdrd 2 жыл бұрын
@@Alvacka97 computer secks
@Konslufius 3 ай бұрын
40:20 There, she said it. She said "transfer". Can't blame Simon for being angry at the end.
@LagsterFragster 5 жыл бұрын
Catherine is a really good character to the point where I can't tell if I hate her or not
@thefalloutwiki 5 жыл бұрын
Lagster Fragster I think the scale tips just enough with some of her endearing lines to make me like her in the end
@StRanGerManY 5 жыл бұрын
Weird, I don't see much to hate her for. She was harsh at times, but justified. Overall, a very good written complex character
@monkeseeaction21987 5 жыл бұрын
She had one central goal which was to complete the launch of the ARK with copies of scans attached. She accomplished this by means that would be considered immoral to us humans today, including telling lies to Simon and creating new copies of conscious human beings (playing the role of creator). But to accomplish this she also set the life, death and humanity of herself completely aside. She voluntarily asked to be put into an omnitool, and completed the task consciously knowing she herself would rot in the ocean, that there were no such thing as a coin flip. Not traditionally heroic, but the character's motive is consistent.
@timfrolov7891 4 жыл бұрын
@@monkeseeaction21987 she didn't lie tho
@Life-tastic 4 жыл бұрын
@@timfrolov7891 She did technically, she said transferring to the ark instead of copied. Two words with terribly different meanings
@Mic_Glow 9 ай бұрын
"I seriously doubt you will find anything useful in there" - this pair of cute thongs says otherwise
@jaedmorv 3 жыл бұрын
and then, we can start listening to other people when they talk... because thats how conversations work!! XD that sass thou.
@Devalinor 3 жыл бұрын
I love these deep conversations this game creates.
@HE13272326 3 жыл бұрын
03:45 I love her sooo much for that line
@rajivpaul9189 Жыл бұрын
9:23 I've always wondered what he wanted to say there ........
@johnyj2082 3 жыл бұрын
25:53 I seriously doubt you'll find anything useful in there. Simon starts playing with Catherine's bra.
@SamuelBlack84 3 жыл бұрын
She can't stop you😃Maybe she has other ahem! toys in there too...
@VetriVade 3 жыл бұрын
When Simon is trapped at the end he probably can't even kill himself. Im pretty sure he's completely trapped in that confined space, alone, and in the dark until his robot body runs out of power (assuming it will)
@justanordinaryguy._.7399 2 жыл бұрын
I thought his body was run by Wau
@mikicerise6250 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be alone if he didn't aggravate Catherine to death over his own obtuseness. :p
@NotMrWhy Жыл бұрын
Looking at how much power he was able to take when touching WAU buttholes I reckon he can straight up crawl through the space gun for days, since its diagonal. The wiki says the shaft is >8km long, which is not THAT much
@wyslanniknewworldorder9525 11 ай бұрын
@@NotMrWhy Yhyhyhyhyhyhy "butthole" yhyhyhyhy
@complover116 11 ай бұрын
If Simon didn't kill WAU then he will "live" forever. That's basically WAU's whole point - human bodies and minds should live forever, no matter the cost. It will be a miserable existence full of suffering, but WAU wasn't programmed to consider that quality of life is a part of the definition of "living".
@binaryalgorithm 3 жыл бұрын
She didn't care about killing robots, or copying Simon... but she seemed actually upset that Simon was going to shut off his old body. She didn't want to be plugged in when he did it. Interesting eh?
@JH24821 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, she sounded actually emotional. It shows that she does care for Simon, and did feel guilt knowing too well Simon-2 had to be left behind after the DUNBAT could no longer be used.
@RetroGamingSweden 2 жыл бұрын
I would assume that she at least hoped the others were also copied onto the ark by then and therefor it would not be much of a loss. Having Simon 2 killed would basically cut the success rate of launching the ark down to 50%. At the same time.. It is also Simon himself that has to kill himself. That may be, even for Cath, pretty rough.
@georgsgrants9925 Жыл бұрын
I think it might be that she places a high value on life she considers human. The robots were, robots, as we understand them today, dumb. For the most part IIRC
@kethamlam123 4 жыл бұрын
31:14 true nightmare
@bbenjoe 4 жыл бұрын
I like how well thought out the whole game is. Like there is Lambda. Only a few rooms are avaible while it is made clear the site is much larger, just most of it is ruined. Like a mentioned tower and a visitors center. Also what bugged me was Akers, who was supposedly hulking in the same corridors in the Theta lab level for 6 months. But actually next to the elevator there is a locked door to the stairways, but it's glass is broken. Clearly he had access to the lower levels. That's how it's full of proxies and undead corpses. There are no plotholes in this game, as far as I'm concerned.
@mrsupremegascon 4 ай бұрын
The way Simon doesn't understand that they are just making copies when they scans is weird. Like, I was 95% sure of it was a copy at the beginning and definitely when Simon changed body suits. So my first question when learning about the ark was "oh okay, but it will not be that actual version of Simon, just a copy". And yet, during the entire game, Simon seems to be convinced he will get on the Ark. So either it's a plothole, either they made the main character stupid for plot reason, or maybe Simon isn't as sane as we thought, his copied mind can't understand the concept that he is just making of copies of himself.
@twentyninedoesnotlastforev5455 3 ай бұрын
@@mrsupremegasconSimon's cosmically dense because he received brain damage in the car crash. The brain scan didn't scan pre-crash Simon, only post-crash.
@n646n 3 ай бұрын
@@twentyninedoesnotlastforev5455 He's dense because it's a flat neurograph.
@DaRoach5882 3 жыл бұрын
The dislikes are all the Simon copies that didn't make it onto the Ark.
@wearywanderer7018 3 жыл бұрын
“I’m sure everyone everyone would like to meet the time traveler.. if not, you still have-“ Noooo 😭 she could have had a good friend moment with Simon but of course it didn’t work out that way. Btw. Did anyone else wonder about the “junk” she told you not to worry about in her room?
@furieux8082 3 жыл бұрын
what
@wearywanderer7018 3 жыл бұрын
@@furieux8082 if you’re asking about the “junk” there were what looked like chips (maybe like the one you killed a robot for) in her room, and she said not to worry about it.
@furieux8082 3 жыл бұрын
@@wearywanderer7018 oh
@EliranC 5 жыл бұрын
most beautiful story ever made ....
@SuperGeronimo999 5 жыл бұрын
beautiful? i had to see a doctor after finishing it...
@Mothbean 5 жыл бұрын
@@SuperGeronimo999 That's why it's beautiful. This game is the only one I've ever played which left me completely and utterly speechless upon beating it. I just felt broken.
@joelthegoat4284 4 жыл бұрын
Dr. Shoggoth yes same this story is a masterpiece
@n646n 3 ай бұрын
I wouldn't go that far...
@-.leah.- 4 жыл бұрын
21:26 "The warden unit? the WAU" ...WArden Unit o.o
@H4zZ4rDGaming1 4 жыл бұрын
Catherine is weirdly okay with everything that goes down
@JabamiLain 2 жыл бұрын
Catherine is trying to keep a logical and rational perspective on things in order to make sure she doesn't overstress. To make sure she neither does anything rash nor is shut down. It's not that weird. Many people are actually capable of repressing their emotions in order to focus in keeping calm and rational during a dangerous situation.
@mikicerise6250 Жыл бұрын
Catherine is what is known as a rational, intelligent adult, an endangered species nowadays.
@valhatan3907 5 ай бұрын
Like me towards my life
@bobbyearhart 4 жыл бұрын
"you lost the coin toss, we both did. Just like Simon on Omicron and the man that died in Toronto a hundred years ago." My theory: there is no coin toss. The law of continuity doesn't work. Everytime an intelligence is copied, both the old and the new intelligences are real and continue to live. I find it so hard to put into words. Both intelligences will claim they are real, because that's what they both feel. When you copy yourself over, there is no winning or losing. The whichever body dies first loses. There's no coin flip. It's not random. The people that committed suicide after being scanned were wrong. *Sounds of frustration* I'm having a terrible time putting it into words. You only transfer over if you are killed the instant after you're scanned. But you transfer either way. Euggh, my head hurts.
@Sharethepain 4 жыл бұрын
There never was a coin toss, its just a way Catherine tried to explain it to Simon. Its the same as cloning yourself, there are two versions of you, and neither is less real.
@couragetheactor 4 жыл бұрын
You can't transfer over. You can only make a copy.
@nunyabuizness2953 3 жыл бұрын
@@couragetheactor Unless Simon and Katherine's cortex chips are plugged directly into the ark. I doubt it has an interface for that though.
@subject_changed4690 3 жыл бұрын
Like cloning. You are the original. The copy is a copy who believes they are the original but was transferred. You are you. You cannot be transferred if there is still a consciousness in the body. Think of it like different timelines. The person you are, who chose a different path, is no longer that same person who chose another. You both exist yet are two different beings. You just have a shared memory of being the same past personality. You will always be you and a copy will always be a copy, no matter how much they may think otherwise. Edit: added periods and commas In a way this applies to every person that exist at this moment. We are all the same entity but grow and experience life from different perspectives. Don't think about it too hard xD
@TheStanishStudios 3 жыл бұрын
Which is why she calls him and idiot at the end-like seriously buddy, how can you not grasp this after doing it before? You’re *both* the “real” Simon, and the copy will feel exactly like you did. You’re no more “real” than the copy you left behind in Omicron.
@ArcienPlaysGames 3 жыл бұрын
3:16 "Oh no! ... anyway"
@ownerfate 4 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling that they could potentially make another ARK based on the test simulation or a fully functional final draft of saved data, because they would need to keep data on the thing, in case it were ever damaged, or destroyed from launching from the cannon. ( Multiple ARKS ... = Alternate Universes )
@cookiesyruplover 3 жыл бұрын
Problem is that with the whole people committing suicide and structure gel monster getting a little too crazy with keeping people "alive" there would be no one to make a new ARK. Not even sure if there would still be materials for it too. They barely had enough power to get to one place or another. But having multiple ones would be interesting.
@n646n 3 ай бұрын
All the memory chips with the scans were destroyed except for Brandon.
@juxtaposer. 10 ай бұрын
"Hold onto something!" Player: "Okay, ive got a fire extinguisher!" cheeky af lmao
@allieanarchy2833 10 ай бұрын
The extra camerawork was a really nice touch, great compilation.
@tumbles8350 10 ай бұрын
"hold onto something!" *picks up fire extinguisher*
@seiyachan 5 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video and a great perspective, thanks!
@computerpwn 5 жыл бұрын
What a... story..
@richardowen5321 10 ай бұрын
At first I was confused by Catherine's hesitancy about starting the journey to launch the ARK. Then I realised that as soon as Simon unplugged the omnitool, that version of Catherine would die. Even if she was plugged back in, it wouldn't be the same consciousness, just someone else with her memories. And she knew it.
@thePontiffsSnickerdoodles 10 ай бұрын
Each Omnitool port shouldn't act as a Pilotseat. I see it as Chief and Cortana in the Halo games, with his suit acting as the Omnitool. Same Cortana each time she interacts with a terminal or computer. If that's not the case, then what you're suggesting is pretty morbid.
@richardowen5321 10 ай бұрын
@@thePontiffsSnickerdoodles thanks for the reply. You're right, it's a horrible thought. The first time the possibility occurred to me it made me feel a bit sick - especially considering what a decent person Catherine seems to be... but then the game is like that in a lot of ways.
@I_Dont_Believe_In_Salad 3 ай бұрын
That's not how it works, she even explained it during The Climber. She said it's like a Sleeping but unable to Dream. Besides, when we first meet her she told Simon to transfer her cortex chip into Omnitool which means it's the same Catherine we're with all this time until the Ark launched at the end of the game where there's another copy of Catherine
@therealaaroon12196 4 жыл бұрын
Great cut, man! Really enjoyed this perspective
@scaf5363 3 жыл бұрын
And it's strange to think about however long it takes Simon to complete a task in between her being unplugged and being plugged back in. It could be like hours to him but for her it's like 5 seconds. It's like having gaps in your memory.
@captainfordo2780 4 жыл бұрын
I wish they make an expansion wherein simon loses his sanity and makes multiple uploads of himself to try and rehabilitate life and search for survivors on land.
@detonatressm9400 4 жыл бұрын
No promises but a friend and I are considering making a mod with a similar premise but not with making multiple Simon copies. The circumstances would be: Simon-2 was kept alive and is pissed enough to bring hell, the WAU is still alive, weird stuff's happening to the ocean creatures (other than being mutated), Mark Sarang's mockingbird is up to something, Simon-3 escapes Phi, Catherine's dead but the Omnitool still works, and there is a ragtag bunch of misfits formed with the goal to reach a safe place on the surface to start a new civilization of robots. Hopefully HPL3 allows for controlling a 5-man team style with camera swapping.
@captainfordo2780 4 жыл бұрын
Detonatress M cool idea. But what if you make a fictional survivor. And is pitched against the simon from the abyss since he'd probably be fuming like hell. And the one helping you is simon that was left behind sleeping that you woke for help. That would be sick asf.
@detonatressm9400 4 жыл бұрын
@@captainfordo2780 Although one of the members of the team will be fictional (a mockingbird that had all of the stolen scan data shoved into it but is neither of them and has to gain an identity while also carry around important cargo it must get to the surface), the game would pick up with Simon-3 at Phi. Simon-2 was stuck at Omicron (until figuring out a way to get out), and ends up going somewhat crazy enough to set his goal to reach the surface at all costs, including subjugating the Construct and K8 for their utility. He'd forcibly recruit Simon-3 and the strange scan-storing mockingbird, and from there they have to survive the road to the surface while also managing resources (battery, healing, key items) in an attempt to keep as many survivors as possible and reach the surface. Then there's Sarang's new cult that will be spreading among mockingbirds who want to improve their bodies but only allow the sane to live, taking mercy killing up to eleven... The whole idea was inspired by this poster that can be found in SOMA's supersecret RAR: imgur.com/RmYQgiy.jpg as well as the flesher vs solipsist war from what SOMA could have been.
@SillyUwUBilly 3 жыл бұрын
@@detonatressm9400 And how it is going ?
@detonatressm9400 3 жыл бұрын
@@SillyUwUBilly The dude I was working with decided he doesn't like the HPL editor and I don't think moving stuff over to Godot would be a good idea, as the requirements to run the game would be higher. So it just remained in script level. Basically, the idea for the mod was to have Simon-3 discover that Simon-2 prepared to take the Construct and K8 (under threat with a recharged stun baton) on a journey to the surface. Simon-2 forcibly takes Simon-3 along, even though Simon-3 has seen the Omega platform and doesn't believe there is a surface anymore. They'd also acquire Mock, the bot with multiple voices/memories who carries a solar panel charger + some kind of simulation machine (like the mind coral that puts you in a simulation) on his back. They'd meet Sarang as an infected TOPA bot and his followers (Amy Azzaro crawler bot, Louise Meuron spider, and Guy as QUALIA bot). Sarang's crew try to make them part of their group that steals parts of robots to improve their bodies. Sarang would have a secret project of trying to control the WAU, and it would be open to interpretation if he succeeded and if he's behind the strange behavior of the newer infested creatures. The protagonists would refuse to join, so they'd be followed by Sarang and his team, lose them at some point (or kill them), find 2 types of WAU sharks (one that eliminates the other and is less aggressive), then they'd follow whales and (provided the entire team survives the trip) find an island to set up a small civilization there. Simon-3's battery is damaged by a giant shark, so he's hooked to the ARK-like thing Mock carried to the top of the island. It would be unsure if Simon-3 and the rest hooked themselves to the simulation and lived the rest of their lives there, or the smog never reached the island and it's all real. The ending (whether it's a fake world or not) would give players the option of choosing to move S2 and S3's chips into whales and live like that, or head to Toronto, or contact the ARK, or choose to stay on the island.
@seraslain962 4 жыл бұрын
This gives me an idea... A point n' click GUI game (like Mainlining or Hacknet) that gives you the role of an AI or a Brain Scan. It's a multiple-choice multiple-ending game with plenty of bad endings for your mistakes and a few good endings plus a true ending for the really dedicated player. It could keep track of your decisions and mistakes through a Decision Tree that will let you go back to where you messed up and get things done right. The game could run with Events where you need to complete a series of puzzles or decisions before clicking a "Remove Device" button that moves you onto the next event. Between events, the screen goes dark for a few seconds. If you did things right you will be greeted by the next interface. If not, well, it's Game Over. Clicking that Remove Device button is a gamble and it's up to the Player to make sure they've done everything right to make sure they end up in a new Machine instead of rusting away near the User's corpse.
@cptray-steam 4 жыл бұрын
You could make a prototype with Twine 2.0
@andrei_chikatil0 9 ай бұрын
Okay Russel pidor
@denkho6118 3 жыл бұрын
I love the transition smoothness at 5:12
@Magiciansking 6 жыл бұрын
I really was interested to know how did Catherine see the world, thnx for letting me know : )
@space3817 4 жыл бұрын
man to think if simon showed up liked a few weeks before he coulda saved some people
@cuffsflop7551 4 жыл бұрын
Stahp my mind exploded
@user36able 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the WAU only activated Simon’s scan because there weren’t any humans left
@KingThrillgore 2 жыл бұрын
@@user36able The WAU activated Simon because PATHOS-2 was on aux power (from the events before the game/"Transmissions" shorts) and was hours from going dark forever. It basically made a guess that if it used a leftover brain scan, it might turn on the power. The WAU needed the power to keep everyone and the other robots/mockingbirds alive. Everything it did, it did to preserve humanity, but with the ability of a dog poking its owner awake.
@chiwhiner 3 жыл бұрын
I love when Simon says “only robots... CRAZY ones!!” lol.
@IntheeyesofMorbo 3 жыл бұрын
i watched a playthrough then bought the game when it was on sale to support the creators. mind blowing Sci fi. I wont say anything else.
@Swcher 2 жыл бұрын
"Hold On To Something" *Grabs Fire Extinguisher*
@DLDrillNB 10 ай бұрын
It gets even worse if Catherine shut down. Simon would be trapped at site Phi completely alone. And even worse again, if there was still power, he would have to fight the dilemma of waking Catherine up again, just so he could have someone to talk to. We can only hope his power suit ran dry just some hours after…
@FurryWrecker911 5 жыл бұрын
14:34 AHAHAHA! I did the exact same thing!
@cpi3267 11 ай бұрын
Lmao
@Hecu 3 жыл бұрын
Didnt expect much from this game but it sure delivered
@mokeymokey1035 10 ай бұрын
I really like SOMA, but it’s one of those games that fucks you up for about an hour after you’re done playing it.
@redblue9478 5 жыл бұрын
This made me think of something important. If Catherine spent so much time in that room doing her crew scans, in the same room with Simon's data and information, why doesn't she know Simon Jarrett by name? He should be famous to her. I'm not reinstalling to check, but did she do her scan before she went to the other area to populate the ARK with crew? It'd be the only way this isn't a plothole and even then might still be.
@lotzamilk2792 5 жыл бұрын
This video skips the part where she explains that nobody really uses those templates anymore. Which makes sense really, his scan is around 100 years old...
@redblue9478 5 жыл бұрын
@@lotzamilk2792 I do remember that part, I just think with the ARK being such a ray of light for the station, Simon's template being somewhat of historical significance and more importantly the computer being right there in her area she probably should have known/did know Simon by name. Just because it's not used anymore doesn't mean it wasn't robust, it was good enough for Simon himself to be brought to life.
@MrMortull 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know man, it's so long after the scan and Simon is such a rudimentary "version" that he's probably only ever mentioned in academic matters by that point and any "live" install of him is likely handled by some kind of automated diagnostic system. It's quite possible that Simon-2 is the first copy to even communicate with a sentient being in literal decades. She probably knew *of* him in a very distant sort of way, but at the same time he'd be one of those technical details you hear of once in university and then never think about again unless it comes up in a big way.
@KingThrillgore 2 жыл бұрын
Given Catherine's reserved attitude, there's the remote chance she knew more than she let on. She needed Simon, not the other way around.
@cookiesyruplover 3 жыл бұрын
The "I trusted you" line always pisses me off. Like I get how Simon can't comprehend it but these are a bunch of scientists from the future and they can't comprehend how Copy and Paste works? Catherine made the ARK herself just to save, in a sense, a time capsule of humanity or whatever that means. She knew that consciousness was all the scan was and didn't think it was right or wrong (because it's complicated, a grey area instead of black and white). She did what she believed she had to do and that's it.
@Killgore-ip2yq 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I thought he knew and expected it. It sucks sure but a part of him lives on now.
@WiseOwl_1408 11 ай бұрын
@@Killgore-ip2yqhe's pretty clear he doesn't understand wtf is happening for most of it.
@pathetic2399 Ай бұрын
@@Killgore-ip2yq Catherine gave him the correct definition like once, and it was clear he didn’t fully understand then. From there she started using misleading language to make him think that there would be a chance his consciousness woul d be carried over, such as calling it a coin toss that can be won or lost, when the reality is that there’s never a chance for the person being copied to win. Only the thing being copied gets to move on.
@pathetic2399 Ай бұрын
@@Killgore-ip2yq *only the copy gets to move on.
@thegeth4293 5 жыл бұрын
I will never get over the scene with brandon wang. That was fucked up
@DiscoTimelordASD 8 ай бұрын
Catherine would have known immediately that Simon was a legacy scan from first contact. His lack of knowledge on current technology and his location would have gave it away and his scan would have been the one used repeatedly in testing over 100 years in order to perfect the technology. It's chilling to think she manipulated him and knew all along that launching the ARK would still trap Simon there. She would have known so much about him and she never said a word because she needed a tool to manipulate to achieve her end game. However, given that the real Simon and Catherine were dead, does that make her actions wrong or understandable? The closest they could ever get to BEING alive again would be on the ARK, so were their bodies disposable? I like how this game always has you questioning yourself.
@Geminilion100 6 ай бұрын
I ponder if the Catherine on the ARK would ever explained what happened to the Simon that made it.
@aranerem3767 2 жыл бұрын
The voice acting was really well done
@missnobody6151 9 ай бұрын
A wonderful shining example of the medium "games" Makes me think of the quote " The medium is the message"
@custoneye 4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes, we felling like Catherine 15:49
@leaverus 3 жыл бұрын
"1000s of years" for the ark to remain powered up is not that long on the scale of the universe or even humankind. barring an alien civilization finding the ark, realizing what it is and keeping it powered indefinitely or extracting the human minds within, that would be the end of man.
@mikicerise6250 Жыл бұрын
That's why you want to leave the WAU alone. The only real hope is actually the WAU.
@uselessdr1nk263 3 жыл бұрын
After playing the whole game I now realise how ridiculous simon sounds at the start
@Nagytika 5 жыл бұрын
49:00 she could told to Simon to put her chip inside the powersuit then the powersuit could just rip the cortex chip of simon out of Simon2 and putitinthe omnitool
@Nagytika 5 жыл бұрын
Or simon3 could have riped his cortex-chip out of simon2
@Nagytika 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I know, but we are alking about Hishe scenarios not actual gameplay changes (that would made the whole game shorter and less meaningfull)
@wanderingbufoon 4 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t matter because in the end, they can’t plug themselves in inside the ARK. That’s why Catherine didn’t really care on who gets copied and who gets left behind because she already knew she lucked out.
@potaterjim 11 ай бұрын
Catherine is so dang cute. I always got the idea that she was a little neurodivergent: a lot of the journal entries you find indicate that she had a hard time connecting with her coworkers, and she even has a hard time empathizing with Simon's ethical dilemmas, but that part of her personality also makes her the most well adapted to being a mockingbird. A lot of her coworkers went insane at the thought of being a digital copy. Simon himself gets over it, but it still eats away at him. Meanwhile, Catherine has been scooting around as a little robot, alone, for years, and she's like "I think I'm a clone noooooww" It kind of gave her a slightly villainous tint. She appears cold, even manipulative at times, but I don't think she was ever malicious. She just sees the world a little differently than most, and genuinely wanted to help. I kind of wish we got more time with her, let her interact with more of the world. It would have been interesting to see her interact with the last living crewmember, or just have her give Simon a little more comfort during some of the spookier times.
@WiseOwl_1408 11 ай бұрын
No hope for you
@Error-ke1tf 3 жыл бұрын
The ARK really would have only worked as a last chance for humanity if it had the capability to remotely connect with autonomous robots that can self-fabricate. Mine materials, refine them, construct parts from them. They very well could have rebuilt the world in the future when the crust cools down and make copies of themselves to fill the planet up with. Then they could have attempted to reverse engineer the human genome with a near infinite amount of time at their disposal to return themselves to their original form, if they even wanted to. But what we know about the Ark shows it is just a time capsule. It will fail one day and humanity will be lost with it.
@samal3196 2 жыл бұрын
Course, they couldn't return to their original forms. Maybe they could try and copy themselves, but we know that's not the same.
@carbharharbcar5867 11 ай бұрын
one of my favorite parts about SOMA is that if only ONE of the serveral things that went wrong, went right, humanity could have survived. for example the WAU, it's this magic mcguffin that if it could have been directed, or simply didn't schitz out, could have easily been used to build a self sustaining community.
@somethingotherthanmyrealname 11 ай бұрын
@@carbharharbcar5867Honestly the same applies with stuff as small as Akers. If he hadn’t lost his mind everything might’ve been fine. They would have at least had more time before everything became truly unfixable.
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