Some clarification on the original CZ 75’s

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Uncle Jim 2

Uncle Jim 2

Жыл бұрын

Some stuff on the original CZ 75 pre B’s

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@scottrobinson3281
@scottrobinson3281 Жыл бұрын
I have a first model, made in 1978, bought new in 1979, serial № 14xxx. These early models had a fine blue finish, but some barrels were oversize - .357", .358" groove diameter. They were also subject to frame cracks with a lot of heavy use, hence the increased frame rail length on the pistols shown. A South African gunsmith marketed a recoil buffer/shock absorber to replace the recoil spring guide, which I installed in the early 1980's and have had no evidence of cracks. According to channel Czechoslovak Gun Stories, designer František Koucký was more inspired by the SIG210 than the Hi-power, the latter really for the double stack high capacity magazine.
@unclejim2330
@unclejim2330 Жыл бұрын
Good info and I agree on the Sig 210, didn’t know the original was over bore. 👍 thanks for the reply.
@roydavidson8902
@roydavidson8902 6 ай бұрын
Great Video, I purchased mine back in 88 while stationed in Germany. I changed out my grips for some Pachmyers but I still have the originals. One of the smoothest shooting 9mm's out there.
@TinManReloading
@TinManReloading Жыл бұрын
Very cool history lesson. I love the way those look!
@unclejim2330
@unclejim2330 Жыл бұрын
They are cool. 👍
@frankbutta9344
@frankbutta9344 Жыл бұрын
Very Nice CZ’s. I finally bought a CZ 75 SemiCompact a few months ago. It’s a full size grip (16 rounds), with a compact length slide and barrel. The folks at CZ had to ask around to get any information, because they’re apparently weren’t many made. It is stamped “SemiCompact” on the slide. 👍👍👍👍
@unclejim2330
@unclejim2330 Жыл бұрын
Yeah those are cool and has seen a couple vids but never one in person. Nice! 👍
@AMF96
@AMF96 Жыл бұрын
Cool. I have a CZ 75 Compact myself, but never knew CZ made a Semi Compact.. must be pretty rare.
@hesa3656
@hesa3656 Жыл бұрын
Thank You Sir! Great follow up!
@unclejim2330
@unclejim2330 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. 👍
@HobbiesHobo
@HobbiesHobo Жыл бұрын
Wow, you really jog the memory UJ. I remember these really early models with lighter slides & frames. The shop I worked at was getting custom leather holsters made by Alessi in the USA and we had to get aluminum sand castings made of the guns for them. The CZ caused quite a problem until we realized there were 2 different variations.
@unclejim2330
@unclejim2330 Жыл бұрын
So they important to Canada? Interesting. I think it would be cool to have one. 👍
@HobbiesHobo
@HobbiesHobo Жыл бұрын
@@unclejim2330 Early CZ's were really pricey in Canada, when I got mine (About '82) it was about $750 and US Tourists who stopped in were amazed because at that time they were very hard to get in the USA and when they could get them they were easily $1400 USD. Then shortly after that they changed the finish to paint or whatever that is you have on yours and the price in Canada dropped like a rock to about $325, we sold dozens after that. At the same time as all that was going on, there was the Type I, Type II confusion that you showed.
@thorsaxe5881
@thorsaxe5881 Жыл бұрын
Jim. your disruption and evaluation of the CZ is spot on. (My opinion) the CZ is one of the most thought out pistols on the market as far a shoot ability and ergonomic comfort. the low axis bore leaves a small window in relation to muzzle flip and wrist position and adds to shot placement and leads to accurate shooting. Good video dude, I love the CZ's in the 75 family, I suggest it to people looking for a 9mm. - Dave
@unclejim2330
@unclejim2330 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, my son loves them too. 👍
@PatriotPaulUSA
@PatriotPaulUSA Жыл бұрын
More great CZ history from UJ! Nice! The old CZ original grips are awesome. I hope you can get some new wood ones made.
@unclejim2330
@unclejim2330 Жыл бұрын
I hope he can copy them, I’d put it on both. 😂👍
@g-low6365
@g-low6365 9 ай бұрын
i inherited one, bought new in argentina around 1990. its kinda in between those 2. it has the older round trigger guard, but with the newer grips and its blued not painted. i wouldnt like to, but ill have to refinish it. its pretty banged due to beign carried for 15 years in humid weather by my dad, (when we could still carry down here)
@unclejim2330
@unclejim2330 9 ай бұрын
Very cool, thanks for sharing that. 👍
@hothmobile100
@hothmobile100 5 ай бұрын
Yeah I heard a lot of early CZ pistols were painted. Thanks for showing this.
@unclejim2330
@unclejim2330 5 ай бұрын
Thank you. 👍
@papasplace2
@papasplace2 Жыл бұрын
Of the 3D printed mags the Mendez Mags seem to work the best for me... just don't leave them loaded because they will expand on you.
@unclejim2330
@unclejim2330 Жыл бұрын
Yes that’s a Mendez and thanks . It’s my sons curiosity and I gave him crap because I have plenty OEM Glock. 😂 $10 Magpul is as low as I go for cheap and I can trust them.👍
@robinj.9329
@robinj.9329 11 ай бұрын
YES! I have heard about this "Very FIRST Model", but never seen one. Only a few of the "Pre-B" models have come to my attention. With a few selected changes, converted into the CZ-75B for the USA market.
@unclejim2330
@unclejim2330 11 ай бұрын
There’s actually a first model with less slide I didn’t talk about that’s totally different and is the first. 🤷‍♀️
@charleshooper1465
@charleshooper1465 6 ай бұрын
love the CZ 75 B. its what colt was looking to do with the 1911A1
@keegannfreebird37
@keegannfreebird37 Жыл бұрын
Jim, what specific spring should go in one of these pre bs? Do you have a link where you got yours? Also how exactly does a stiffer spring prevent accidental discharge?
@unclejim2330
@unclejim2330 Жыл бұрын
I still have the stock springs but go to Wolff gun springs and they will show you stock vs X power. 👍
@54rap
@54rap Жыл бұрын
CZ75B owner from germany here. I dont want my mags flying around, landing in the dirt, so i am okay with the mag release as it is.
@unclejim2330
@unclejim2330 Жыл бұрын
Haha, everyone has their own likes. My buddy was stationed in Germany and brought home a transition model. 👍 Also we had friends from Germany come here and buy a 61 VW window van and ship it back! They said I couldn’t find their favorite beer but I surprised them and we had good times. 👍
@mrsmel269
@mrsmel269 Жыл бұрын
great info UJ!!!
@unclejim2330
@unclejim2330 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. 👍
@andreschang8624
@andreschang8624 Жыл бұрын
I have a cz 75, and if You pull the hammer there is a first safety position that prevents the accidental firing.
@unclejim2330
@unclejim2330 Жыл бұрын
It’s a half cock and it’s mentioned in this or the other vid however pre b models can fail a drop test do to firing pin movement. 👍
@ShootAUT
@ShootAUT 2 ай бұрын
grips4u makes CZ 75 walnut grips in that exact oldschool design (around $40, I think), if you still need them. Got them on my "granddaddy" 75 from 1980 and wouldn't want to see anything else on her anymore. 😁 There're are still some of the very first 75s around here in Europe, but prices have increased drastically in recent years. As for the rest: Yes, you should absolutely leave them as they are. All the little dings and scratches are part of the guns history. Refinishing it would be like erasing that history.
@unclejim2330
@unclejim2330 2 ай бұрын
I’ll check out the grips, thanks. 👍
@billrentz9133
@billrentz9133 Жыл бұрын
I think I have a pre B transition model. It has the rounded trigger guard, and the flat hammer like my Retro but it does have a hammer pin. It was made in 2003. Nobody has been able to tell me for sure what it is.
@carolwilson5348
@carolwilson5348 10 ай бұрын
Bilrentz- You may have what I have. It was called an "RSR Original" (I still have the box). I believe RSR was a wholesale distributor and sold a limited run of old style looking pistols. Mine has the firing pin block and takes the newer type magazines. but has the original slide scallops and rounded top, rounded trigger guard, tang hammer, and original style safety lever, and slide stop. the only negative was a set of thumbrest grips, which I replaced with a set of E-Bay rosewood grips from Thailand. Most important is that RETRO is NOT blazing across the slide. She is a beauty. I wish CZ would make another run of these.
@billrentz9133
@billrentz9133 10 ай бұрын
@@carolwilson5348 Thank you for getting back to me I appreciate it!
@davidfeiler2265
@davidfeiler2265 2 ай бұрын
The retro is the best of both worlds it has the old and new. But they only made 1000
@andreschang8624
@andreschang8624 Жыл бұрын
Nice vídeo !!!!
@thelastcedar2008
@thelastcedar2008 Жыл бұрын
i bought an amazing Pre b Like new 2 Tone Chrome Black and Silver, the thing is too nice!
@unclejim2330
@unclejim2330 Жыл бұрын
Yeah they are awesome. 👍👍👍
@colt10mmsecurity68
@colt10mmsecurity68 3 ай бұрын
Those very first CZ’s that had the “longer” cut on the slide and frames were prone to cracking issues that destroyed the gun for further use. So CZ redesigned the pistols and left more metal on both the frame and slide, thus ending the cracking issues. I wouldn’t want an original design, because they were seriously flawed and defective pistols. If a gun doesn’t work it’s just junk. The current CZ B amd BD models are superb!
@unclejim2330
@unclejim2330 3 ай бұрын
Yes but they weren’t imported here. I still prefer pre b’s without decocker and the price. As for junk the Colt 10mm had an unsupported chamber and collet bushings that cracked and there was the term “super face” for their early 38 supers.. So don’t throw stones. 😂👍🇺🇸
@colt10mmsecurity68
@colt10mmsecurity68 3 ай бұрын
@@unclejim2330 Don’t get all butt hurt with facts bro. Besides, we’re talking about the CZ 75 in this video, not the Delta Elite…. Which resolved their issue some 35 years ago. And it wasn’t the bushing that cracked, nor was there an issue with an “unsupported chamber.” Do you just make this crap up as you go? It was a frame cracking issue (which albeit is bad enough) on first run models, until Colt drilled out a relief cut near the slide catch. After that design change, the newer models since NEVER experienced issues, not even with “hotter” 10mm ammo. Get your facts straight. Another FACT CHECK for you: You’re also WRONG about the CZ 75 being influenced by the Hi Power. That is a false misnomer. As told by CZ historian and author David Pazdera, the CZ 75’s design was primarily influenced by the Sig Sauer P210 and NOT the Browning Hi Power. You can watch and learn about this fact on “Czechsovak gun stories” channel here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pdOSactnm7O3iGw.htmlsi=Eya774nrej2LydSN
@ShootAUT
@ShootAUT 2 ай бұрын
To my knowledge, none of those crackable 75s ever made it over any counter into the public. They cracked during testing, when CZ was experimenting with cast steel parts. That's why only cast 75s have beefed up frames and slides - the forged ones didn't need the extra material. Nothing seriously flawed or defective about them.
@davidfeiler2265
@davidfeiler2265 2 ай бұрын
That’s why you look for a 75B retro.
@ShootAUT
@ShootAUT 2 ай бұрын
@@davidfeiler2265 Anybody who is on the fence about one should just get a normal B. The pre-B-style frame on the Retro isn't worth the extra money.
@royorkesjr.8386
@royorkesjr.8386 3 ай бұрын
Mine is an original 1992 model with the rounded trigger gaurd and spur hammer enamel finish I got it for 329.00 in the early 2000s I'm pretty you cant get one for that price anymore
@HL-ll4zz
@HL-ll4zz 6 ай бұрын
Are the PreB guide rods plastic? Or metal?
@unclejim2330
@unclejim2330 6 ай бұрын
They are steel. 👍
@4d4Spl
@4d4Spl Жыл бұрын
Don't know about the older ones, but newer CZ's have the year of manufacture on the slide. My P01 has the year right after an inspector/proof mark and before the serial number.
@unclejim2330
@unclejim2330 Жыл бұрын
Older ones have a 2 idjit number by the ejection port. 👍
@4d4Spl
@4d4Spl Жыл бұрын
@@unclejim2330 I believe that's the same place I was talking about!
@davidfeiler2265
@davidfeiler2265 2 ай бұрын
I thought it’s the number after the triangle
@4d4Spl
@4d4Spl 2 ай бұрын
@@davidfeiler2265 It is. I think the triangle is an inspector stamp.
@T.A.B.Videos
@T.A.B.Videos Жыл бұрын
Interesting facts UJ
@unclejim2330
@unclejim2330 Жыл бұрын
👍
@Imragnar1
@Imragnar1 Жыл бұрын
Jim got the same year cz love it they will bury me with it lol
@unclejim2330
@unclejim2330 Жыл бұрын
Awesome. 👍
@stuntevie
@stuntevie 9 ай бұрын
i've read somewhere that the first ever 75 had no "half cock" drop safety and only 20k units were made
@ShootAUT
@ShootAUT 2 ай бұрын
They have a half-cock drop safety, and only around 15k were made. 😉
@aslanzayif1468
@aslanzayif1468 10 ай бұрын
I love you cz
@unclejim2330
@unclejim2330 10 ай бұрын
👍
@archpriest6
@archpriest6 10 ай бұрын
Sir: I have an original CZ75 "short rail". What you are calling granddad. No import marks. Great condition, with a few scratches. R/Doug
@chrisgoossens463
@chrisgoossens463 7 ай бұрын
In Europe you can find originals for reasonable prices
@unclejim2330
@unclejim2330 7 ай бұрын
I bet. 👍
@chrisgoossens463
@chrisgoossens463 7 ай бұрын
@unclejim2330 I paid 145 euros for a good pre b 2years ago
@ShootAUT
@ShootAUT 2 ай бұрын
If by "originals" you mean the very first series (or "granddad" as they're called here 😁): No, not anymore. Prices have gone up dramatically from 400,- to about 1,500,- during the past 3-4 years. But Pre-B and B? Yeah, sure. They're still at around 300-500 (used).
@Randaljoness
@Randaljoness 3 ай бұрын
Are you from mt good sir?
@unclejim2330
@unclejim2330 3 ай бұрын
MT?
@Randaljoness
@Randaljoness 3 ай бұрын
Montana, USA
@WildWing-wl7nj
@WildWing-wl7nj Жыл бұрын
They do not take the same magazines.
@tacticalrabbit308
@tacticalrabbit308 Жыл бұрын
You could clarify what happened yesterday you had a live chat and you never showed up for over an hour and a hafl
@unclejim2330
@unclejim2330 Жыл бұрын
Sorry, that was a no live chat warning and I forgot to delete it. 🤷‍♀️
@tacticalrabbit308
@tacticalrabbit308 Жыл бұрын
@@unclejim2330 ok
@jcaam8094
@jcaam8094 7 ай бұрын
I just picked a cz75 B after years of dreaming of one, unfortunately I live in a communist state and could only get 10 round magazines.
@CrankyCleatus
@CrankyCleatus Жыл бұрын
How do you remember all this crap 😂.
@unclejim2330
@unclejim2330 Жыл бұрын
I forgot half and left some out. 😂🤭🤷‍♀️
@dslude
@dslude Жыл бұрын
@@unclejim2330 I Have the grandma without import marks bought it in germany and brought it back via fta however the grips are as the newer pistol posted all scribed in gun are same. the one i have is handmade or so i was told when bought
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