I personally really like the new animations and im hoping they can make it sound satisfying or look like it hits harder but we'll need to test it on thursday first! And I believe there is no TG for it. During editing I had assumed new animations meant TG but it maynot. Hyper armor on some of the followup attacks is a great addition but probably not for the lights. Overall warden mains are eating good and ubisoft is cooking once again for the knights finally. Now make new animations for lawbringer and conqueror tyvm! Lmk what you guys think and i'll see you on tomorrows stream.

I'm gonna be honest, I thought I'd be hype about Highlander rework, but I was actually happy for Warden's buff. I think the biggest reason is that JC and crew listened to the community asking for more half swording in his kit

Hyper armor zone into the keyoshin that's been in all guard for the past 30 minutes while his teammates attack

Warden needs this.

i think the new animations are so sick, i am such a huge fan of these animations and he finally feels like a vanguard comparable to characters like kensei and warmonger

Honestly, just the new animations alone look amazing and are enough for me to go back to Warden

Warden was the first character they made and these pass through years he’s been shitted up he deserves this upgrade

It’s gonna be cool not feeling useless in a team fight

This isn't testing grounds this will be a live change like the Highlander rework

i really liked the "answering comments" section Sol

Nha I think the new animations and armor is really cool, I main warden and we nned that as my opinion

I don't think the HA Lights are taking away any choice at all, you hit the bash in a 1v2 and you can choose to be rewarded by getting your guaranteed damage with them or you can choose to go for a higher damage punish on someone trying to interrupt you with heavy/zone or target switch the lights if the other opponent is close enough, HA lights or not, the HA zone will guarantee you the damage just for the higher stamina cost, the zone and heavy are going to be better if you're surrounded either way. I think the existence of HA lights makes all the choices more niche, but that makes them more interesting and rewarding for finding the correct times to do them. I suppose we'll see in practice!

Alternate title: Some people don't like Warden..

I played warden before the buff and he was so painful in 4v4. Can’t wait to be just VIABLE and not dead weight.

The sound design when conq hits you with heavy is still one of the meatiest in the entire game. It sounds so much mkre painful than even shugoki

Rep 72 warden here and i hope they add even more half swording. A bet you these people saying " urr i dont like AnImAtIon" dont even have 5 reps on the character and main orochi

As someone whos about to get my 18th rep on Warden. The only thing that saddens me is changing the animation on the same side lights. That's the most satisfying part for me is landing the little "chop chop." I'm excited for everything else though, especially hyper armor.

Now all we need is omnidirectional crushing counters and warden is the perfect hero

I’m so hyped for my boy! Warden was my first real main!

9:04 double dagger character is exactly what I responded with on a recent post about new heroes we’d want to see. Cloak and dagger “Vagrant/Vagabond/voyager” hero, with dual daggers and aesthetics from many cultures. Double heavy slashes that execute being the core kit feature, as well as a feintable bash after blocked heavies using a heavy input.

getting back into the game for the first time since 4 years is just so weird. game has evolved so much

Also, half swording is very much a thing. Though some of it is sped up for gameplay, and of course some attacks where you spin is all just for flare since real sword play that would get you hit and or you would miss and still get hit lol

If the Warden rework foretells reworks for the rest of the OG characters, then I'm satisfied. Many old kits are sorely in need of updates.

I was a warden main for years after I lost my account and started playing warmonger this brought me back as a warden main veteran again given I played warden for most of my time as almost a rep 60

I hope we get news for centurions rework for the charge punch😢

I'm so fuckin happy one of my favorite knights is getting that hyper, It'll make trades sooooooooo goood

“Warden is not that much of a braindead character” thank you. I’m absolutely trash at the game, and hearing this just makes me feel a little better. I’m not stupid, I’m just bad.

Yeh I think these changes are gonna be very cool plus all the balance changes announced look beautiful

This makes warden hella usefull on anti-ganks now tho and im pretty sure thats what they wanted to do as well, otherwise it feels like he lacks alot of basic kit to deal with spammers and anti ganks without ha only works if your opponent dumb enough not to forget using his shoulder bash in most of these situations is so high risk low reward that youre just forced to stall to get some revenge and work off of that

I think it's a much needed buff. If you've played Warden in 4's then you know just how hard you have to sweat just to put in a 'decent' amount of work in a team fight compared to other characters. His unlock side heavies are pretty nice. But his shoulder bash is super risky. The process of committing to a target, and then following through with the entire animation of the bash + follow up leaves you very open to being interrupted. Sure you can argue unlock tech and semantics, but Warden doesn't have dodge-cancels or crazy movement to weave around the battlefield. So I think giving him hyper armor was a great decision.

Honestly I like ur idea abt removing it for the double light so he isn't too easy to play and keeping for zone and heavy. I always loved his skill level and this is sort of numbing down most skill required for team fights. I'm a 4v4 enthusiast and warden is fun because of his skill requirement in 4s and I'd like there to still be some.

not sure about everyone else but after these changes I will be a warden main. 💀 *I LOVE HYPER ARMOR*

People mad about the hyper armor cause they're mad that their friends can't save them from a top heavy if they were dumb and didn't dodge a fully-charged bash

They're cool! The right side light is my favorite. Left side light is a little wonky because he spins for no reason but it's cool too. I wonder if they made a top light animation. As for the others ones, The side heavies are I think my least favorite, but I'll never throw out a side heavy on a fully charged bash, and the top heavy looks pretty nice. Only reason I feel like the side heavies are strange is because of how he holds the sword. He's spinning, again, for like zero reason. The zone attack spin is something entirely different, because that'll allow him to hit dudes around him which is honestly great. I think I just don't know why he holds his sword like that in his side heavies- if his hands were spread apart more I feel like it would look better. Ah but I'm just nitpicking- honestly the only ones that matter are the top heavy, the side lights, and the zone and I really can't wait to have fun with them- even if its just cosmetic changes. They look cool :D

1:35 I feel Kensei is absolutely frustrating to fight against.I get hit like 3 times and my health is gone

Armour after bash is a very deliberate choice to prevent warden from being stronger in 1v1. It literally has no effect there, it's a 4s buff. Specifically, it's so you can't get peeled as easily, and let you hammer some fools in a gank without fear of being interrupted. Should that mean every move following a bash should receive armour? idk, I think it's necessary because of the different bash levels. Level 1/2 = light, light: should this be vulnerable to peeling? Level 3 = top heavy; should this be vulnerable to peeling? Zone/side heavy is your only gank offense...if you land a bash, should your unlock tech be vulnerable? ...if any, the chain zone could probably see some other utility other than armour after bash. It's essentially a different side heavy doing the same thing...just differently.

how about this: keep hyper armor on heavies, give zone a unblock and ( maybe) give lights way to swap to other people?

I agree with these changes. the warden has needed some love for a while beyond just getting new skins and armors. Plus, I also agree that Kensei is pretty fair to fight it's just people would rather unga bunga, which I mean everyone does, but kensei sometimes punishes that style of play.

This Is what i was begging from warden main for like Forever and now finally warden Will be a Btier

Still wish Warden had side CC's

I haven’t played For Honor in like 2 and a half years but as a former Warden main this is an absolute W

I'm personally happy to see that Warden actually makes use of their sword more than before. On launch Warden was touted as this master of the sword, only to end up being a shoulder charge champ this entire time outside of some executions. Now that we're getting these animations, finally Warden is looking like the swordsman they were touted as. Plus the knights having more hyperarmour makes sense in my mind, they visually have more armour that they can rely on mid swing.

I thought these changes are gonna come out on the 25th tho

The chain lights are pretty good but the heavies are kinda jank but for target swaps they’re fine

Remind me when the warden gets his new rework.

Tell jc that i wanna b able to put my visor down on the lord ramiel skin

If you want to talk about hyperarmor bs only one hero comes to mind and it’s bloody Hito change my damn mind

Why is there an issue with him having hyper armour on his light attacks? It's just gonna be his followup to his bash. All tools are ment for target swapping/securing damage after a bash. The zone has better peel and recovery at the cost of stamina, the heavies have damage at the cost of speeed, and the lights have damage and speed at the cost of recovery and saftey. They all have a use in many situations. Hyper armour lights after a bash that gives a GB of wiff is fine man. I have no idea why people would complain, it seems more thrn fair to me.

Yooo it’s the 📦

I don’t understand the hyper armor on the attack after the bash, you get a guaranteed hit after a bash anyway so what good is hyper armor on 1 light attack after a bash

"Neuron activation" - Me when I saw the new animations. I dunno if I am gonna main him, but im happy for the changes.. Can we give HA to one of conq FB punish? plz ubi i beg u

anyone know when the re work comes out

Might actually play again, but still no warden cape 😭

A lady Maria pk skin? She uses a saber and a dagger

if he can do the followups on whiff, busted is he can't...smol quality of life buff

Does he still get a heavy on full charged bash? Does he even still have a fully charge bash?

A black prior skull knight skin would be sick

In my opinion they should just keep the double light followup after lv1 bash. This solves the hyper armor problem and mantains the satisfaction of hitting the move. I'm fine with the hyper armor on the new heavy attacks.

Bro knows Skallagrim and Metatron, this man is the real g 🙏🙏

I love yhe new animations, if i could add some stuff or change some things it would be to (give him parry reposte that stuns and leads into UB mix up or SB, MAYBE dodge light attack, laslty if his side heavy UB would be reversed handed but like Jorm or nuxia, they would displace the enemy and hit or drag them into a wall or something) thats just me and what i would add most of it could and would definitely be tweaked to not be busted ofc, but we'll see after these TG with Warden still very happy with this

I dont mind warden getting hyper armor on his bash punishes. It'd at least help him guarantee some damage without being interrupted in a teamfight.

Testing grounds? I thought it goes live Thursday?

All I want is for gryphon to be able to feint his fd heavy, it’s not like it wouldn’t make sense considering he doesn’t even LEAVE THE GROUND

none of these went through a testing ground, meanwhile just to get better stam consumption for PK she had to go through a testing ground no consistency when it comes to buffing already heroes that are doing well

As a warden main who’s played since launch I just appreciate getting some more variety/versatility in the game. this patch overall is the kinda thing that keeps me coming back

Hyper armor after bash is fine, and chain zone.

I dont think this warden change is having a testing ground, Im pretty sure its going live

It also seems to me that giving hyperarmor to lights and zone is somehow... stupid. Lights and zone are fast attacks, they simply do not need hyper armor to be effective. But regarding heavy attacks, I already see the point in giving hyperarmor, because this is a long attack that is easy to shoot down. I have only one question: Is it possible to give punishment to another player after a bash? If so, we're getting a bit strong mixups. P.S. Animations look good

Bring back the old sol, we miss him

Warden should have never gotten hyper armor. Now he’s the same as every character

I don’t like when characters hit with the hilt. Just give Warden nunchakus in that case

Did he say ubisoft is a small indie company? Probably sarcasm, but it sounded serious

I thought the changes were immediately going live not into a tg?

I’m a lil confused on wardens new punishes from his bash. Are all those new moves guaranteed? Or?

farted

As a PK main since the day I started playing, seeing her hero skin be a crossover skin is super disappointing, especially since it costs about 6k more than the other hero skins. Really really hope that she gets a unique one in the future and not a rehash of a several year old model from a different game.

Why not a Abyss Watcher from Dark Souls 3 for Peacekeeper

What did they do to my bbg/bbb😢 they made him not simple anymore so many mix ups I’m about to goon 😩

Warden is my 2nd most leveled up character back when I still played. Maybe I’ll return to the game now. Dunno yet.

Give me deflects and dodge lights and dodge heavies and all block and storm rush for warden... Or else

He deserves confirmed damage in a team fight after a successful bash. He gets that with hyper armor. If you need to, you can still bash the Warden to deny him the punish and trade with a revenge tag/ big revenge gain. The heavy mordhau hilt swing would look a lot better without the clumsy looking 360 spin but its probably going to be target swapped 99% of the time its used so maybe it'll look better in that context rather than 1v1

Time to come back from the dead I guess..

Honestly this is something that should have already been in the game a long time ago even when they were making his rework this is something that you should have already done the first place

Aren't his hyper armor lights just on the bash punish?

If therre is one thing I have learned about this community, it is that we will always complain about something. We will never be satisfied with the result, there will always be something that is not good enough or not to the taste of some

Afeera has been broken since release and Shinobi since his rework over a year ago? A Highlander nerf will fix that.

i feel like warden deserved this hyper armor, evey other vangaurd hero has easy access hyper armor. Warden only has it with his bash, this hyper armor will let him trade more often like other vangaurds. This is also good because vangaurds are supposed to be easy so this makes it easieir for someone to pick him up and not get cooked super fast.

This is actually needed for warden, every other character has crazy undogeables, hyper armor, or infinite combos, warden was falling behind, it became really annoying playing him even when winning, because you could win the same match ups easier with other characters, him having a lil better animations and some hyper armor isn’t going to be game breaking like other characters have been in the past

I really can not believe they reworked warden before LB and conq like HOW

love you solypoly

Idk if it's just seeing them in a video and they will look better in game, but they look kinda clunky to me, whereas the double light after the level 1 bash always looked smooth, idk if they said they got rid of this? Also, I do hate that warden mid attack grabs the blade of his sword and hits him with his handle, I know the game has been far from realistic for a long time, but this just doesn't make sense to me because surely if the swrd is shard you would fuck up his hand. The same with he he carries it normal, I wish just had a sheath, but that's just main gripe

21 seconds baby!

Personally really excited for the new animations and hyper armour HOWEVER, they need to be REALLY careful with how much they give, a prime example is Hitokiri, I agree that hyper armour double lights is overkill but on heavies and zones I think is acceptable.

thing is, you dont need to charge bash in temfights, unlock ublckbl way better

This rework, simple bash (not charged) guarantee a heavy?

I'm still crying every time someone double-dodges my charged punch on Cent. Yeah yeah I know it's a skill issue but it shouldn't be a thing and its sad they're ignoring it.

I would say Kensei is balanced now after the newer character editions but damn was he pretty OP I think on launch going forward for a long time

I personally think the animations are good. Just that it needs a little bit more weight to the strikes and perhaps the sound effects could be better

I like the idea of the animations, but they look janky af. Though, tbf, I don't see how they could be improved from here. The reason they do look janky is just because of how fast the game is now

Warden seriously needs a buff rep 18 with him and every time I use him I feel like I'm at a disadvantage.