Some thoughts on the Razer Orochi V2

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This is a look at the Razer Orochi V2, unscripted, just wanted to give a generral idea of whether or not it's good in game and my reasoning.
Razer really stepped up their mouse game a few years ago, so all of these are quite good, it's just a matter of you like the shape and weight.
Didn't run into any problems with it, solid performance.
It was sent out for testing, so thanks to Razer for that, but all thoughts are my own, I was not told to say anything, of course.
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@RocketJumpNinja 2 жыл бұрын

Hope this kind of video is good enough for the website and gives some useful info. I'll get better with live talking the more I do this and should make them even faster and a lot more condensed. Filming and editing only took about 2 hours, so plus testing, this is a lot better for me while I design new mice and rewrite my novels. Still messing around with mic settings. If I can't get it sounding right, I might switch setups and use my usual microphone instead. Let me know any feedback, will try to improve where I can, but time is very limited for me now, so this is all I can really manage. If this is no good, I'll just show shape in videos for the website and maybe say a few words, but otherwise, they will be super short videos. Thanks! Edit: I think KZfaq is judging the video like that's a bad thing in 2021, I thought we were past this ... look at the URL, how do I report them? 😂

@Mignon15 2 жыл бұрын

Ok thanks will let you know.

@sovieToilet 2 жыл бұрын

Mic quality is definitely better, altough it still has some harsh "S" sounds. Maybe put a filter or a sock on it, idk. New format is good, it's great that you can upload at all. Thank you for all the years of hard work.

@waldolemmer 2 жыл бұрын

GAY

@RocketJumpNinja 2 жыл бұрын

Before anyone gets mad at glib, look at the video URL.

@ayo0069 2 жыл бұрын

now that you don’t even have decent video quality no one has any reason to watch you. now that all the people with better opinions make higher quality videos than you why would anyone click on yours?

@Pastill- 2 жыл бұрын

this style of video is good enough for me even if it doesn't go in depth like previous videos

@swaffelkonijn1752 2 жыл бұрын

Kinda isnt tbh, other reviewers are going in depth and if you want that it's just easier to switch reviewer than watch this. But still like the videos but they just aren't as good as they where.

@Pastill- 2 жыл бұрын

@@swaffelkonijn1752 yeah I know, I'm not comparing his style to other reviewers, I'm comparing it to his previous videos. and even then there are reviewers that are more in-depth.

@littlefield3003 2 жыл бұрын

@@swaffelkonijn1752 I would rather watch this than watching any videos from broadzy

@HollowRick 2 жыл бұрын

@@littlefield3003 agreed that guy is a tool.. 🤦‍♂️

@savagearma 2 жыл бұрын

@@HollowRick I thought I was annoyed with his voice and how he does his videos, I unsubscribed and moved on, did not want to cause drama or something lol.

@KrunoslavSaho 2 жыл бұрын

This is perfect. Just show us the mouse and your criticism of it.

@bart9655 2 жыл бұрын

I think the reason for overflicking on the orochi is that the sensor is more in front of the mouse, that causes the sensitivity to feel higher etc.

@tydon19 2 жыл бұрын

No, Razer's 5g optical sensor has a problem with wide DPI deviation. A bit dumb Razer did not use their newest Focus+ sensor on Orochi v2.

@rl2817 2 жыл бұрын

I can confirm it's because of the sensor positioning more forward.

@MrVirtuezzz 2 жыл бұрын

I think your overflicking could be due to the sensor positioning on the V2.

@aircord 2 жыл бұрын

That's what I was thinking as well, I'm glad a few people in the comments have mentioned this.

@Kodunkion 2 жыл бұрын

@@rdmz135 And where did you learn this from?...

@james-bx4wr 2 жыл бұрын

@@Kodunkion from logic?

@mechros4460 2 жыл бұрын

@@Kodunkion personally I aim a lot with my wrist. Higher sensor placement changes it a lot for wrist aim, feels great for me though.

@tydon19 2 жыл бұрын

No, Razer's 5g optical sensor has a problem with wide DPI deviation. A bit dumb Razer did not use their newest Focus+ sensor on Orochi v2.

@raiyankhanmajlis6112 2 жыл бұрын

You might have been over-flicking because of the sensor position, more forward sensor positioning causes the mouse to be more sensitive to wrist movements.

@landon8463 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I thought when I saw how forward the placement was on the mouse

@tydon19 2 жыл бұрын

No, Razer's 5g optical sensor has a problem with wide DPI deviation. A bit dumb Razer did not use their newest Focus+ sensor on Orochi v2.

@kudosstyle24 2 жыл бұрын

Yes this 1:2 ratio he is talking about is totally bullshit.

@afrofly5977 2 жыл бұрын

You know, I said the same thing with the Viper mini coming from a G302. I've been using the mini for almost 3 months and I can't help but feel something is off. I keep telling myself that I'm just not use to the shape because I used the g302 for about 5 years. I suspect it's the sensor position as well.

@raiyankhanmajlis6112 2 жыл бұрын

@@afrofly5977 Viper Mini's sensor position is pretty much dead center though. Are you sure it's not because of the the unreasonably high lift of distance of the Viper Mini?

@KiloMegaGigaTerra94 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your thoughts! As always, we appreciate as much opinions we can get especially yours. Really happy with the route you're going. Here's to more support!

@paullusty 2 жыл бұрын

I'm so glad you posted this. I was thinking about buying it but what you mentioned about the grip on the sides I know I would hate it, thank you!

@bqne_ 2 жыл бұрын

i like this kind of video. I didn't expect you to still talk about the mice that much anymore. Good thing i was wrong lol

@nyanray 2 жыл бұрын

Love the format of the video, also agree about the comments on the shape. Might buy it to consider having it replace my g305, if I find it on sale!

@korotv_ 2 жыл бұрын

This is all I need. Like you've said specs are all top of the line, so just hearing your opinion on shape is perfect. You'll get better at this style in no time!

@toothstepper 2 жыл бұрын

I really like this format you're going with --- matter of fact this is more than enough --- got ALL the information I need

@marvlouslie2053 2 жыл бұрын

I love it because it fits in my hand perfectly. It's not overly large (like the G502 wireless which I also have). No distracting RGB, and just enough features to keep things competitive for its price for a wireless mouse.

@Kai-en2xs 2 жыл бұрын

at last, been waiting for this review. thanks!

@sovieToilet 2 жыл бұрын

I use orochi V2 since the release and I'm quite happy with it. I have large hands, so I thought it might now work for me, but for a fingertip it works perfectly. And it's a huge update after a Rival 650. BTW, my brother has G305 and it doesn't feel as comfortable as Orochi when I play. 305 is egg all the way, wich for me makes it harder to grip.

@sagarmalviya9289 2 жыл бұрын

Whats your hand size, mine is 18.5 *10.5 and I am having doubts about purchasing orochi

@sovieToilet 2 жыл бұрын

@@sagarmalviya9289 19*8 cm. If you fingertip I think you'll be fine. I can claw it a bit, if I need to move mouse back into my hand quickly, but I wouldn't recommend it if you prefer claw grip. And you can probably just return it if it doesn't work for you.

@microwavegommmm916 2 жыл бұрын

My hands are large too and I bought it for this exact reason. Big hands + small mice 👑

@ahmedsharib1987 Жыл бұрын

Unrelated question: do u play on laptop or pc?

@sovieToilet Жыл бұрын

@@ahmedsharib1987 PC

@kingjongun7295 2 жыл бұрын

i find the orochi a lot more comfortable than the g305.

@georgepierre3594 2 жыл бұрын

5.9cm grip width oppose to 5.5cm grip width.

@ar1tro Ай бұрын

Whats your hand size?

@raaskyl7491 2 жыл бұрын

The grip width for me is perfect (I have quite wide hands), I like the back and sides but would prefer the front a little longer.

@garkittsui3574 2 жыл бұрын

I’m very happy to see this video, because when you said in the last video that you no longer make a mice review video , I feel sad... but I’m happy now, Even it’s only 360p. （Sorry for my bad english）

@fishywtf 2 жыл бұрын

Zy is pretty right. The left side has a little too much groove, when you use the groove with natural grip it turns the mouse a bit. The right side needs to taper in a bit because you have little grip to lift it up. The middle hump is slightly high, as you pull the mouse down with your fingers, the top rubs against your palm causing friction. Also when you pull the mouse down, the fingers will slightly lift the back up by mm and fall back down. I had to put the AAA battery on the back to counter act that. It's a good mouse but it needs slight adjustments to make it really good. Too many people preach this forward sensor, but nah it's not good. Majority of mouse sensors are in the middle, this causes weird aim that you have to adjust. IMO a mouse should work well out of the box without the need to adjust and should feel natural, that's why the g305 and GPX is S tier mouses.

@kazuo3564 2 жыл бұрын

i'm no pro but every mice RJN recommendend just does not work for me admittedly i only used the viper and viper mini, as there are recommended to be the best shape i did switch to the CM mm720 just to see if i like the shape, and it improved my aim in aimbeast and now i main the Orchi v2, which was akward at the beginning because of the positiion of the sensor. But after knowing this fact i was even better with my aim. still respect his opinions but i can't aggree to his "shape" standard

@MrGabrielLagg 2 жыл бұрын

Shape is incredibly subjective, however i agree i cant relate to this mans shape standerds.

@justinvfernando 2 жыл бұрын

@@MrGabrielLagg It really is very subjective. His preference will only really work with someone with similar hand size to his, as well similar grip style.

@Paul-mv5ti 2 жыл бұрын

Just wanted to ask is the weight balanced for you, or when holding it from the middle does the back drip down at all?

@kazuo3564 2 жыл бұрын

@@Paul-mv5ti i'm using AAA with AA adapter, the weight is balanced and the back does not drip. Tried using the AAA slot but it will have a back drip

@Paul-mv5ti 2 жыл бұрын

@@kazuo3564 perfect thanks that's exactly what I used for my g305, def getting this now

@dinhlongnguyen8750 2 жыл бұрын

You are right, the curve on the side is too much for my taste. But by performing a quick fix by adding grip tape on the side makes this my top mouse.

@TheShadowsnivy 2 жыл бұрын

I was checking out your website about 20 minutes earlier, and I thought I was going crazy because I saw an updated review for the orochi lol. Did you post the review before the video? Either way, I was really sad when I heard your full reviews ended, but honestly I could get used to this. I noticed that as of recent your reviews were getting shorter because mice don’t need to be analyzed as much. Since most mice are shape dependent now, like you said before. These reviews seem comfy, more casual, while still getting your point across about how you feel. I think I over exaggerated your announcement in my head, and most other people probably have too. Keep up the work, can’t wait to see what you can do with your extra free time now 🥳

@michaelthompson9798 2 жыл бұрын

I never liked Razer gaming mice (previous money pit trying a few of them) but I got this Orochi V2 here in Australia on an amazing EBay Australia Razer store sale for $54USD including tax (10% GST) and it’s amazing shape for me. I also use the Pwnage Ultra Custom Ergo & Cooler Master M710/711 and the Razer is a win for me just ahead of the other 2 mice I own! Great review Zy. Loving your quick vids 🥰👍🤯❤️ Glad to see your not giving up on your fans who rely on your input to help their decision making 🥰🥳

@Tomart0 2 жыл бұрын

not like the past video, but it gets your point across nicely! btw, there is a typo in the description, you wrote "give a generral idea"

@Spoidah 2 жыл бұрын

Definitely agree about the top of the mouse being too tall for proper fingertip grip. As for the width, I just didn't like the overly aggressive curvature on the right side of the mouse. With large hands I wanna put my pinky finger at the rear end of the mouse to stabilise my fingertip grip, but it ends up being much narrower than I want. I'm almost forced into a pseudo palm grip if I don't want finger cramps.

@someryebread 2 жыл бұрын

Been waiting for this king.

@NovaisaBossgames 2 жыл бұрын

love the video style honestly! but you should just add a short part or a little more profound making sure new viewers at least know some of the specs and all are top and wont have issues. so they wont have any problems most likely with the mouse they are trying to buy. but still love the shape part of this!!

@MekaniQ 2 жыл бұрын

First quick review, but definitely not disappointed!

@nayanpitlam5621 2 жыл бұрын

Luv u and ur work man. Waiting for mz2 😏 why is this video givin me 'dont be zy video' vibes 🤣

@miggs957 2 жыл бұрын

For some reason, I aim better with this mouse regardless of sensor position. Also, when are you going to release a wireless MZ1?

@MexX4200 2 жыл бұрын

Yes! Finally Zy‘s Opinion on the Orochi V2

@ohwad5244 2 жыл бұрын

I’m excited for this review

@FlipsMG 2 жыл бұрын

I think it's actually good that it has more width to height, shorter mice have much more range of motion and many people want that range of motion without the mouse being too narrow for their hands.

@shift0135 2 жыл бұрын

that is why I prefer this shape to the viper mini shape. Totally agree

@acsgdo02 2 жыл бұрын

It's not for everyone but I found this perfect for my 17.5 x 9.5 hands was rockin the VU for a year then tried this and blew me away. I already have rechargeable AAA so batteries is not an issue plus I don't have to worry bout battery degradation I can keep on using this as long as the switches don't die on me. Already excited to see what improvements on the next gens V3 or V4 of this mouse.

@s.richards6552 Жыл бұрын

My hand is 16cm x 8cm and the Orichi is a perfect palm/claw grip for me. My ring finger is deformed due to surgery, so it rests on the right button along with the middle finger. The small outward curve on the right allows my little finger to wrap slightly around the mouse. The concave curve on the left is perfect for my thumb placement. I also find the coating fine for my dry hands, unlike most newer mice that lack grips. I was fully expecting the need to add gloss tape when I bought it, but it feels great out of the box. The mouse is a direct replacement for my beloved ancient G400s which is huge by comparison,, but both are equally comfortable to me. I bought a G603, thinking it was close to the G400s shape but it was wrong in every way for me - too big, hump in the wrong place , incredibly slippery and impossible to grip. My hand ached after ten minutes of use. The Orochi addresses all these problems to near perfection. I think I have found the best wireless mouse for my small square hands.

@matthewgriffy 2 жыл бұрын

I kinda prefer this, low-key and kinda chill. Sometimes the in-depth reviews feel like a lesson at school or something. Not saying they’re bad (they’re brilliant) but I just like the vibe of these videos.

@plainsalted2844 2 жыл бұрын

just sayin that just bc it isn't for u doesn't mean it's not for others, especially when u said not ideal for competitive games

@just_matt3937 2 жыл бұрын

Went back to your review of the Viper Ultimate before buying it. Copped it and the charging dock on Prime Day for $85 USD! It's a definite upgrade from the G502 Lightspeed. After working in front of a computer for 8 hours (internship), my arm and wrist feel so much more relieved using a lightweight mouse compared to my old mouse. I also only need to have one program open for all my peripherals now. Now, I just need to get used to the mouse. Already started lowering my sensitivity in Overwatch from an already low sensitivity lol

@yellowcone1 2 жыл бұрын

G305's sides curves inwards a lot, causes a lot of accidental lifts....the Razer has better sides.

@snq8068 2 жыл бұрын

noticed that when i played the mouse for a week or two, especially if you tend to grip the mouse a bit harder it can loose tracking in heated situation

@rsndetre1 2 жыл бұрын

No. Unless you have small hands and palm the mouse, the shape of G305 is much better. Accidental lifts are your problem.

@durjoydc 2 жыл бұрын

Depends upon your grip totally.

@microwavegommmm916 2 жыл бұрын

@@rsndetre1 Shape is all about preference. You sound like an upset child 😂. He's not dissing your fave, he's just giving his opinion. Learn the difference

@rsndetre1 2 жыл бұрын

@@microwavegommmm916 you are trying to hard. Sit down.

@brandonbreuer6589 2 жыл бұрын

TLDR paraphrasing "The Razer Orochi would be better if it was more like this mouse over here that I designed myself"

@josecastro2332 2 жыл бұрын

yes

@matthewgriffy 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Zy! You should do a little video when Finalmouse announce their new drop July 7th. It’ll be interesting to hear your thoughts/opinions on it. It’ll be super easy to record and will only be a few minutes or so.

@DurNizzle 2 жыл бұрын

I used to main the 305 and I have M/L hands and this is impossible to use without pain after extended periods of use. Honestly hoping they release a medium size version of this 🙏

@strainhug 2 жыл бұрын

Do you think weight distribution makes a difference for in-game performance or in-hand feel? I have heard G305 is notorious for imbalance. I personally haven't owned a wireless mouse with AA/AAA batteries in over 10 years. Feels like a step in the wrong direction..

@MYSOULOFDOOM 2 жыл бұрын

this and your mouse are my mains zys rail for top down shooters, fps, mobas and the orochi v2 for comfort like rts and rpgs to name a few

@MChronicler 2 жыл бұрын

I agree with you. I was a long time user of G305, and based on most reviews the Orochi is a total upgrade. So far I'm very inconsistent with my aim with it, and found that switching back to 305 my aims gets consistently better. I'll give it a couple more weeks to adjust, maybe I'll start to prefer the orochi.

@nayantrades 2 жыл бұрын

you prefer it now?

@MChronicler 2 жыл бұрын

@@nayantrades hey! Actually, yes! I'm getting used to the shape now, and I'm beating my records on Kovak and aimlab against my G305 so I'd say it's a win

@Caninehandler 2 жыл бұрын

started out as a travel mouse, couch mouse, etc. All 3 of my gaming mice are in a drawer now, it's just the Orochi and MX Ergo trackball for change of RoM and RSI

@slycooper4946 2 жыл бұрын

When the video is so fresh that its fricken 360p

@mr.n476 2 жыл бұрын

coming from a blackshark v2 pro, kinda want to use a small and lighter mouse once in a while. is the orochi v2 a good counterpart?

@echiwav 2 жыл бұрын

would you consider making another mice with xtrfy? or are you considering to work with another company?

@mbk337 2 жыл бұрын

Funny enough, I think the changes you mentioned in regards to the shape would make it mirror the g305. Also, the front doesn't bump out, as you mentioned, but instead has a very slight flat point near the front. Sure, you could pull this in, but then it is just like the rounded nature of the g305. Also, I think your flick issues are due to the forward-positioned sensor on the Orochi.

@onsgr1 2 жыл бұрын

The sensor position of this mouse is perfect, i hope future mice are more like this. I wish for a wired orochi with all the best features ...

@johneyfairplay8140 2 жыл бұрын

High Sensor position is why you're over flicking

@tydon19 2 жыл бұрын

No, Razer's 5g optical sensor has a problem with wide DPI deviation. A bit dumb Razer did not use their newest Focus+ sensor on Orochi v2.

@Kaylas1821 2 жыл бұрын

@@tydon19 sure. That's why pros like FreshReview use it as a main. Cuz of imaginary deviations.

@tydon19 2 жыл бұрын

@@Kaylas1821 sure thing he got a help from his mouse

@goldy_on_pc930 2 жыл бұрын

I like this mouse a lot, a lot of people complain about the sensor position, but personally with me aiming with my figers its perfect

@danialkhir1 2 жыл бұрын

do you review any tecware mouse ? the tecware pulse is kinda a great wireless mouse

@Lemonpinesol 2 жыл бұрын

best part of this mouse is that the sensor is more forward, forward sensor is better for fingertip mice imo

@fishywtf 2 жыл бұрын

Lol I hope you didn't just watch the Razer video and assume it's better because they tell you it's better. It's about the same as middle placement, the shape is what makes all the difference. G305 has better grip, for claw and fingertip, once a lighter version comes out, it will overshadow Orochi v2

@matt260 2 жыл бұрын

exactly thats why the mm710 was horrible for me the sensor was too far back it killed it. Mice that work for claw sometimes really wont work for fingertip, its so specific.

@Lemonpinesol 2 жыл бұрын

@@fishywtf never seen the razer video, and forward sensor is not the same at all, technically CPI feels faster with a more forward sensor with fingertip. I also hold my mouse far back anyway because i aim better with a sensor closer to my clicks, I assume because it is more similar to writing with a pencil or something. I dont like G305 shape, it bulges in the center making it hard to balance well for me. Obviouslythis is all personal preference stuff but nothing is "assumed", all stuff ive learned over the years from trial and error.

@Emertxe4 2 жыл бұрын

I'm so glad I'm not crazy. I really wanted to like this mouse, and on paper, everything was perfect. However, I couldn't get my aim right, and I had no idea why. I kept convincing myself there's nothing wrong with the shape, but it felt off to me, forward sensor aside. Good to know that others think the shape was weird afterall.

@timmackinnon 2 жыл бұрын

It's my new main. I needed a replacement for my old G Pro Gaming Mouse (G203). I tried a viper mini but didn't like it because I'm too used to the rounder shape for fingertip. This definitely isn't a g203 clone but it's a shape that I found myself just as happy with and the specs are a huge improvement. I do agree Zy though that the 503 is the better shape but imo it's close and the better specs are waaaay better

@peppersalt4463 9 ай бұрын

Hey zy, what you think about Razer Deathadder V2 x Hyperspeed? People saying the clicks, the sensor and etc is the same as in Orochi v2 but in deathadder shape, my hands is 18 x 9.6 and im struggling to aim with my viper mini so i thinking about buying deathadder hyperspeed but im not sure. I tested g305 shape in a store and it was ok but im afraid of doubleclick issue.

@axy8035 2 жыл бұрын

Are you going to make a "review" on the new zowie ec3-c mouse?

@dorintony 2 жыл бұрын

With a 7 years old sensor. Ahahaah . What a joke!

@norydaisy7393 2 жыл бұрын

@@dorintony Thought 3360 was a perfect sensor. Did it get old and isn't perfect anymore? You're a joke!

@jimboc669 2 жыл бұрын

@@dorintony the difference between the 3360 and the new sensors is negligible, they all perform perfectly.

@dorintony 2 жыл бұрын

@@jimboc669 for your bot level, it is! For pro players and who knows some tech and skill, it's big difference.

@jimboc669 2 жыл бұрын

@@dorintony Spoiler alert, like 75% of pros use Zowie mice with either 3360 sensors, or even the older ones with 3310. The reason you're not a pro isn't because of your mouse sensor my friend 😂 seems I must have hit a nerve there. Stay triggered and have a good day 👍.

@wickedse7en419 2 жыл бұрын

I previous had an G305 and recently bought the Orochi V2. With those two, I prefer the Orochi V2 than G305. Much lighter and better aiming. I am a lefty.

@The8-bitwarrior 2 жыл бұрын

This one was a bit of a surprise to me tbh. Mostly because its one my best performers, and also because the orochi seems p close to ideal for fingertip user, small mice preferers; even claw or small handed people. Razer took a bit of a risk with this one, regarding unique shapes, same as xtrfy with zy's rail, so respect to these companies for trying something new/unique. I'm all for that.

@janoskovacs7784 2 жыл бұрын

I think this format is fine, we got all the necessary information, however I missed the grip chart. Also it felt as if you were still thinking when sharing your thoughts, like you didn't practice enough the script. Of course if you don't want to spend too much time on a video, it's fine. I just wanted to tell that I noticed the difference. I'm looking forward to see your new projects.

@enzy6434 2 жыл бұрын

He literally said he won’t be doing full reviews. Meaning he said his videos will basically be improvised and not to expect much. You’re effectively complaining about something the dude already gave a disclaimer for.

@janoskovacs7784 2 жыл бұрын

@@enzy6434 Sorry, I didn't know that a "not full review"=improvising and having no script.

@onetwo9824 2 жыл бұрын

Does it have the same problem with the sensor(length of the tracking)?

@user-rb2dw8uo7w 2 жыл бұрын

Hi I am your new subscriber that I watched in yeunda's channel. I am from korea and I love you^^

@Voidward 2 жыл бұрын

My hand is wider than average. I got this mouse a few days before my Finalmouse Starlight 12. I liked it so much that I ended up selling that mouse and stopped using my G Pro Wireless and G305. My flicks were substantially more accurate with the Orochi V2, and despite usually taking a while to warm up to mice, my accuracy was immediately increased in end game stats. Reviews aren't everything. Sometimes you really just need to try mice out to see what you like.

@ryanerickson764 2 жыл бұрын

Facts. Similar experience here

@Healp145 2 жыл бұрын

He was prolly missing because of the sensor placement

@deku012 2 жыл бұрын

Hi zy do you think model o and the zowie g-sr-se is a good combo ?

@matthewgriffy 2 жыл бұрын

Will there ever be a wireless MZ1?

@RocketJumpNinja 2 жыл бұрын

When Xtrfy are happy with their wireless tech, most likely.

@matthewgriffy 2 жыл бұрын

@@RocketJumpNinja YESSSSSS. Zy you just made my day. Thanks buddy!

@otter3193 2 жыл бұрын

Mz1 not available in uae sad

@kael5912 2 жыл бұрын

I was going to buy a wireless mouse for a clean setup but I guess I won't be buying one until a wireless MZ1 gets released!

@otter3193 2 жыл бұрын

white mz2 wen?

@Astolfo_ROB 2 жыл бұрын

do you think your aim is worse because the sensor position as well?

@shadeaux5351 2 жыл бұрын

the orochi v2 fits my hand shape perfectly.. however, i've used it for only 3 days and the switches are already malfunctioning. For example, in overwatch, I will be charging arrow on hanzo and it will randomly release at times

@jrm8206 2 жыл бұрын

Might get this as my back up/try out next to my Viper Mini. Guys, mouse size does matter, just like D size. If you have smaller hands get an even smaller mouse! Ever since I use a smaller mouse, I went from Plat 1 to Immo 2 in one act on Valorant. Wish I switched to a smaller mouse 10 years ago KEKW. The aim difference was insane for me! Also alot less pain in hand.

@sirgeorgioalastrata4104 2 жыл бұрын

Does it feel similar to the final mouse ergo?

@user-jk9fy8lc5j 2 жыл бұрын

I fucking love the style of this video

@eakmadashma 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for explaining it, I also found that I was aiming better with the 305 in everything but speed and I wasnt quite sure why. Sucks cause I was really looking forward to replacing my 305. I even bought a 302 recently just to try out the shape to see if I’d like it and maybe get the wireless 303 if they ever decide to announce that. I found I could aim better with the 302 than orochi.

@tydon19 2 жыл бұрын

What is your hand size? Do you claw or fingertip grip?

@eakmadashma 2 жыл бұрын

@@tydon19 18.4 x 9.2 and claw grip

@tydon19 2 жыл бұрын

@@eakmadashma Thanks, yes there will be wireless g303 it was already leaked I want to also try g302/303 shape I fingertip g304/305 and Orochi v2

@ecapsdira 2 жыл бұрын

This format is pretty awesome. It really shows how a (now) mouse shape designer looks at a mouse rather than a regular tech reviewer.

@seppous 2 жыл бұрын

you are still the #1 go to mouse reviewer.

@josephhazee 2 жыл бұрын

I actually really like this type of review, they gave us a better 'feel' for the mouse imo. Really nice especially when inspecting the shape of a mouse. For you its easier as well, so i'd say it's a win-win tbh

@zuo5773 2 жыл бұрын

would you recommend this with a finger tip claw with a 18cm, 8.5cm hand size?

@HerrCookienator 2 жыл бұрын

Any thoughts on the steelseries prime mice?

@mintlata 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting to know that it came with an Energizer Lithium battery. In Dave2D's video, he said it didn't come with a Lithium battery, so I guess it depends on the retailer?

@Kasspirr 2 жыл бұрын

I want to try egg shaped mouse. I dont like flare out at the back in mice. I thought I needed smaller mouse but it didn't help and I returned my M42. Unfortunetly there is no lightweight G102/203.

@asdasldkadaslkdsadka2599 2 жыл бұрын

16.5x9 hands here. Orochi is the most comfortable mouse ive ever used. def better than g305 for this hand size

@thongkyan0218 2 жыл бұрын

can you review the Vaxee Outset? I'm thinking of getting one!

@sm_tf7804 2 жыл бұрын

will u be doing review of M2K? (very small nouse 26 grams).

@unbeatable617 2 жыл бұрын

I dont quite understand what you mean by "shape theory 101" this mouse is very specific to a standard fingertip grip, the high sensor feels great with it, as does the flair, so the shape is very dependant on your grip and not a mathematical formula and rule that all mice should follow to be classed as "good".

@RocketJumpNinja 2 жыл бұрын

Each to their own, I'm sure we'll find people who agree with both of us, but yeah I struggled getting my aim right with it compared to the G305 and I think the 2:1 thing is why. Maybe the height a bit too, as said. I'm happy to make the videos even shorter and just quickly show the shape, no extra thoughts, if that's what people want. These are just so the website stays updated. Just testing what I can do with limited time. I'll put up a poll at some point, see what people want. This or just a video quickly showing the shape in high detail (4K camera) with some size comparisons.

@unbeatable617 2 жыл бұрын

@@RocketJumpNinja fair enough, I might have just misunderstood what you were saying. I just wanted to share my thoughts on the shape because I think this mouse, much like your own, is a very unique shape so its a lot harder to label

@moepOo 2 жыл бұрын

@@unbeatable617 "I might have just misunderstood what you were saying" Trust me, you haven't.

@melancholiadementia 2 жыл бұрын

could you compare it with the MM720 from coolermaster plz

@Fate025 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve been using this mouse for ard 2-3 months. The AA battery is heavier but gives excellent battery life. Where as if I switched to the smaller AAA battery its much lighter and feels way better. However the battery only lasts less than a week. And when the battery life gets low its annoying as the mouse cursor suddenly stops moving when its idle, and you will have to switch off/on the mouse just to get the cursor moving.

@caiodemarchi2618 2 жыл бұрын

Looking foward to the zowie Cs

@joshuahammer4454 2 жыл бұрын

i wanna try this mouse because of how much i hate the shape on the g305

@intovein3474 2 жыл бұрын

i actually prefer more of a 1:1 ratio, just like RJN showed it is easy and effective to move mouse down with fingertips ("range of motion") without moving wrist/whole arm. It should give more control, but as also mentioned mouse is pretty tall and it might be too tall for it's potential. Short videos are as nice as full reviews, been waiting on RJN's video for this mouse and it covered it all 👍

@moepOo 2 жыл бұрын

The G305 is very back heavy and you're going to notice it when you lift the mouse. Is it a dealbreaker? No, but you're still going to notice it.

@Scribblescrabbly 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@Madillusionist 2 жыл бұрын

really tempted to upgrade my orochi v1 to this v2. but the price seems a tad too high compared to the basilisk x hyperspeed.

@akky5357 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Zy, are you alright? Your voice seems a little raspy in this video. I remember you talking about mold issues at your house. Hope you’re taking care! I got the Razer Orochi V2 for my dad coming from a g502. He uses a palm grip and has stubby fingers. He said he was getting wrist issues so he was going to buy a mouse bungee. With this mouse being wireless and light, I think it’ll be great for him. My medium starlight is coming this week. Super excited

@RocketJumpNinja 2 жыл бұрын

Turns out it isn't mould, it's something else. But no, I'm fine, I just can't get that microphone to sound right. Might switch to another somehow. Thanks!

@floted 2 жыл бұрын

Check the sensor position towards your thumb hold. its a little too far forward

@RocketJumpNinja 2 жыл бұрын

I still think sensor position isn't that big a deal. I've done some tests in the past, even a prototype mouse that allowed me to change the position of the sensor ... it's just something our brains adapt to and that's it (I think anyway). But I'll keep it in mind in case it does have an effect some day (that I can notice).

@BreadAssailant 2 жыл бұрын

swapping from gpx to this mouse, its that comfortable as someone with larger hands I've got to disagree with his complaints about the width, it really is great, and I would not want it any longer

@nexusanx 2 жыл бұрын

Have you received a Kone Pro yet?

@israelpadilla1849 2 жыл бұрын

I've been trying this and the MZ1 and I can't tell which one is right for me. I like the range of motion of the Orochi but I also like the firmness I get from the MZ1 which gives me better control for micro movements. I don't even aim worse with either which makes choosing harder, and this is coming from someone with similar hand size. By the way, I put my ring and pinky finger higher up on the Orochi, about where it starts to curve in. I find that helps.

@RitzyBusiness 2 жыл бұрын

I have the same dilemma, I feel a bit more confident when holding the mz1 but I do the same regardless of mouse