Why?

@@Gfysimpletonswhy not ?

RCA get paid a daily salary not hourly like cca.

@@ypcomchic yeah they get paid based on what the route is evaluated at.

Unless they go over 40 actual hours worked, then it's hourly

Either way, it's weird that city and rural are two separate crafts when they do the same job - deliver mail along a prescribed route.

@@thethirdseashell city cariers use postal owned vehicles. Rural carriers own and operate their own delivery vehicles and are responsible for their own vehicles upkeep.

Thank u 🙏🏽

Hard workers, go into a PO in Oklahoma City and you will see the most worthless and lazy employees anywhere. The Shartel and West Reno Ave PO's are the worst. Had one mail carrier who supplemented his income by stealing outgoing mail so some have ambition, albeit the wrong type of ambition.

I couldn't agree more!

And thats the truth!

All that work and they are cutting these peoples hours..should be criminal

Yup you would think because there is a high turn over rate they would try and make changes to create more retention but they don't they don't care about the working class people u know the ones that keep America moving

Witch they will never be they all have to leave the post office they don’t care about their safety or their health

@@barbaratyrrell3185 not true, it's just the POS head that trump installed and can't legally be fired who owns major stock in the for profit competition

Yeah I just wouldnt even work for them at that point. No job is worth that amount of stress.

You said you are Not paid to deliver Amazon packages. How does that happen, please explain?

I'm an RCA in Houston, MS.

The last mail count we had before this ridiculous nonsense was in 2017. Our routes were evaluated at that time. We didn't start getting Amazon until early 2018 after our routes were evaluated and they never adjusted them to compensate for the increase in packages. Just more pressure. We never had another mail count until this "mail survey". Sorry, it took so long to get back.

@@jennifergarner4818 we were told that they would do this every six months and I've been running Amazon packages since I started working at USPS two years ago and certain holidays as well.

@@jennifergarner4818 Thank you for the explanation.

Hasnt been like that in a long time

@@delovely1577 Unfortunately, they have been successful in trying to shut down the post office. I worked there over 30 years ago and it is a shame what they have done. Most will not know the true damage until it is has been gutted or gone.

This is a total bs. The USPS can blame it on a mandate by an arbitrator, but the person who gets her pay reduced from 46 hours for working 5 days now to 37 hours for working 6 days can’t blame anyone for not making ends meet-and not by her own fault. I heard 6 U.S. Senators sending letter to that Trump’s Postmaster /Donor asking him to delay these employees pay cuts.. What about Joe Biden? If he wants to be a president for another 4 years, perfect time for him to fire this Trump’s PMG, DeJoy. All the lips service from politicians would be shown clearly now by their lack of action!

Definitely killing the workers paychecks

This was going into effect well before he took the position.

He's gonna privatize

@@thevoiddimension3134 this just happened literally a week and half ago how was this before him?

​@@jordanazevedo5688 it's been in the works since 2015. Unfortunately we never got a vote on it.

You're kidding, right? They don't want to fix this. It's saving them too much money. To heck with us and what we have to do as long as we do it! That's exactly how they see it.

​@@jennifergarner4818 ​ I think he meant won't* 😂 and it's for the reason you stated. It's sad how they use our hard work and dedication against us. I don't see myself staying in the long run as originally intended.

Their fees are increasing again in July, postage will be .68 to mail a letter🙄

How ? if it's a contractual agreement then you're SOL..

Jay ,Thank you so much I got the Net to Bank situation fixed on the office computer .Thank you

Not sure what part of the country you live in but we have never stopped once delivering Amazon packages. More and more deliveries for less pay and no days off is not the right solution

​@@lisag5513 I'm a city carrier and we know that most rural carriers are slugs who get paid full-time money, but run through their routes and get off at 3pm. Why wouldn't the post office fight back? City carriers have to work 8 hours AND stay on the clock for 8 hours. The horror.

It’s true rural Carriers are lazy pos I remember when I was a new they dumped all their heavy and big packages on me and they took all the small packages that can fit in the mailbox so they didn’t have to get out of their truck, it wasn’t until I did my own research weeks later I realized was being taken advantage of by these lazy Carriers and there was little to nothing I could do so I quit

Not really sure how this thread turned into City vs rural carriers. Two different crafts. When I was hired I was told I am only guaranteed one day a work a week. My regulars KDAY. Also I am required to have not only one vehicle to deliver out of but also a second vehicle just in case. So if that wasn't something I was willing to take a chance on then I wouldn't continue with the job. I don't know exactly what city carriers are told before they are hired but it doesn't involve destroying their own vehicle. And on days when you're over your evaluation you're not getting paid. Some offices have never stopped delivering Amazon packages and some have. None of those decisions are made by carriers. So once again the discussion it's not about the supposed data that's been collected for over a year that the post office refuses to hand over. Stop blaming the worker for doing what they were hired to do. Depending on what office you working there are people who will drag their feet and do as least as possible to eat up their 8-hour shift. That's not for another carrier to point out. If management had a problem with that person management should address it.

Louis dejoy probably has never bought a stamp for himself in his whole life. Someone who is never ever done any work whatsoever at the post office should never be the Postmaster General.

Say it again!!!

They don't count packages in the mail count so that's not accurate. They're cutting us from every angle possible.

I think we have 15 routes, and every one of them went way down. On the rural side anyway.

Nope. We actually haven’t seen any data that the USPS has collected. Despite repeated attempts to see it

@@Michael-pi8ps interesting, well I hope the people that lost time can appeal and get a manual account.

Exactly and I’m one of them I had enough of the usps none sence they don’t care about the employees anymore

You so bothered by comments of being behind the workers! What’s wrong was you fired

This whole new system is illegal. If this was in the private sector it would not go through. They cannot produce data to prove how they arrived at these figures. Anyone who is a mail carrier knows the new scanners are not accurate. Instead of asking for our input over the past year about how to make improvements with the new scanning system, our input was ignored.

@@glennherron9499 It’s unethical because essentially overnight it devalued the employees and knowingly would negatively impact their personal lives. It’s illegal because the data acquired to determine their evaluations(work hours and pay) by the USPS is fraudulent.

They should definitely get 40 hours a week, however how is it unethical or illegal to not get overtime?

@@traceejohnson290 Say you are scheduled to clock in at 7:30a and you show up and start at 7:25a. You are volunteering your time, correct? Not getting paid, yet helping yourself get an efficient start to your day. That is a violation to the DoL and can be considered illegal. Yet, if your evaluation ends at 3:30p and you're out there until 4:30p, you are no longer paid and essentially volunteering your time, right? What's the difference? A lot of routes nationwide are overburdened and cannot be completed inside the allotted amount of time. Said routes, are being cut, claiming the (false/missing)data says otherwise. Therefore, causing carriers to work even more hours for even less pay. Essentially, overtime is not/has not ever been an option in terms of pay in the rural craft.

How are things going now

@@KnowledgeSeeker78491 a little better but I’m getting worried that I won’t be working much after Christmas

Congratulations on your new baby! I hope the evaluations will be thrown out. There was a clear lack of training. Wishing you all the best, for baby mom, and all family during uncertain times.

@@trixiemcfly8584not thrown out according to a few friends I talked to. Their pay cut will go in effect tomorrow 5/6/2023. The lady in this video, i don’t know how she’s gonna make it in the next months when her paychecks cut by half

50k is poverty

What?!

Not delivered to you, lol.

Yes, but there are more conservatives at the post office than you think. I don't vote blue, though my union tells me to.

I vote Republican

Unions didn’t want that.

What mandates? If I’m not mistaken wasn’t postal workers exempt from that 💉?

@@Yourgrannyfavnurse mandates for overtime because usps is grossly understaffed every single day an hour here 2 hr there they need to eliminate some step increases so you get to max pay quicker than 12 years and not work people 10-13 hr a day

@Mazinblaster Zetto I know I put 13 because I get time to do my soup at the end of my day ;)

If you don't want to work so much, go to the doctor and get a work restriction. I've been working 8/40 for the last four years.

@@jeffw1267Have management ever hassled you about going over your restrictions? Weird but sometimes I want to finish, but you know they abusive folks we work with…they have a problem with everyone who won’t kiss their behinds

5-22-23 🚨🚨🚨 Make sure that you DOCUMENT your Edit Book and your Timr Sheet... Make copies.

5-25-23 💯👍🏾 *If packages are 'Not Found' that is assigned to your Route, during (Load Truck) function. 👍🏾 Scanning the Package: 'Out for Delivery'

5-26-2023 ❤ LAST MESSAGE I was told, "the last day to file a grievance is May 31st, 2023 for this matter." I will be taking another approach. 🙏🏿 MHICB

True, but there are a few who bust their butts and do the work of two or three people. Otherwise, nothing would get done.

@@jeffw1267 facts

We didn’t want anything it was mandated by the arbitrator as stated. Stop lying.

@@Michael-pi8ps Maybe not you. Yes, there were carriers that wanted this because they felt they needed to get paid more for certain parts of their job. So yes there were carriers that wanted this. It's not a lie.

@@Michael-pi8ps I mean this has been going on for years. And the Post Office is doing this Continuous Improvement to improve management and employees relationship in the workplace. So big brother is listening now. And the Post Office is listening. Says ok let's look at everything and see if maybe they are not getting paid what they are warranted. The old way of counting is out dated. So they implement a new system along side the union. The union agrees the new system is better even after many trial and error of testing the new system.

@@Michael-pi8ps But lets not forget and not lose focus. This is new. Many changes will happen to perfect the new system. That is why the new counts have not been implemented yet. We must not lose sight that if we want the Post Office to continue as a whole there must be change to keep it viable.

@@amiegutierrez5800 they start Saturday what are you talking about?

Versus city is robbing time because it don’t take that long to do city routes either and yes I know it don’t so you guys sitting ideal to get ya hours I think the postal as a whole need to be on one pay

Wrong that isn't true. We the would get mail without the mail today. The need the mail pay for.

Not entirely true. Its an average. if they have an 8 hour route, then some days take 10 to complete, some take 6.

It's no free money.... if u work fast... stop being so dumb

That was the job description when hired on .who changes the rules after you’re hired under an agreement they set up . Don’t be a hater that we work efficiently.

I understand cutting the pay but they added an extra work day for less pay. If they had just cut the pay , I really wouldn’t care.

The post office LOSES money delivering to rural areas just so ppl like you can have CHEAP service. If we got paid hourly, ppl would complain that their delivery has slowed down. And FYI, the rural side is SALARIED, meaning we get paid the same whether we work fast or slow, but working slower means you work for free.

So we are faulted because we are efficient?!

@dimpitbull pretty much..usps just took advantage..that's why hourly is just needed

Yeah I seen a few brag about working 5 hours and getting paid 9 hours I don’t know what they expected

Your wrong

It’s for the whole rural craft not just RCA’s. It’s affecting everyone from top to bottom.

@jhatch8264 no he's not..

They are cutting 66% of all rural carriers pay ...that's full time and RCA's ..trust me I've been a carrier for 23 years so I think I know

Wrong

How? Seems the union decided on this

They don’t need any men because most men help reproduce children that no one can afford nor properly raise

🤔

Well when you’re training new people every other week.. that tends to happen

@@neneb162 But there is no training. This happens with same carrier who is alone.

I was a carrier for 30 years starting in '87. Initially, it wasn't bad. We were given reasonably sized routes, with a relatively low volume of mail. We were instructed to look at the name and address on every piece of mail at each stop, to verify it was correct, just before putting it into each box. Then with every passing year, the volume went up. More junk mail, political mail, and parcels. It would take a lot longer to verify all of those extra pieces and to get out of the truck so much more often to take all of those extra parcels to the door. Yet management STILL expected us to get back in 8 hours, and would harass us if we didn't. Naturally, people started taking short cuts. Many would "sleeve" the mail. Roll a thin flat ad into a U-shape, and place it into your sorting slot at the P.O. Then slide every other piece of mail into that. That way, they only had to look at the address on the ad without taking the time to verify each piece of mail inside the bundle. As a result, many weren't catching the mistakes they made when they cased the mail into the sorting slots in the morning. And they were making a lot of mistakes casing the mail because they felt so rushed to get those mountains of mail in the slots fast enough to get out on the street early. If you took too long casing the mail in the office, you wouldn't have enough time on the street to get back in 8 hours. Also compounding the problem was the fact that those slots were too narrow for that volume so you would have to use both hands to cram it in after they filled up. Much slower than using one hand to slide them in when they are empty. You know what they say, "haste makes waste". In this case, more misdelivered mail. To make it WORSE, management would use our quicker times when mail was unusually light, to justify ADDING more stops to our routes. The routes became IMPOSSIBLY long for those who didn't take the mistake generating short cuts. So most people DID take the shortcuts. And they would harass me daily for taking longer to do it RIGHT.

Go get a position as a carrier if you think it's free money

@@jhatch8264 you rural carriers have it easy city carriers have it rough

@@bartsimpson4080 city carriers pad their time in order to not get sent back out

@@mistaPARADOX not really the pivot already has your name on it 😂

@Mazinblaster Zetto become a city carriers

Sure, let's privatize the military while we are at it.

Sure I'll charge 10$ to mail a letter

@@donnab8365 Who is mailing letters in 2023?

@@usmc1992usmc visitation processing plant they'll give you a tour you'll see

It's in the Constitution Article I, Section 8, Clause 7 that US citizens have a right to the Post Office and the roads to get the mail there and it's overseen by Congress.