Trying to explain any of my decks combos to my partner who I just got to watch DM Yugioh last month is next to impossible

I still don't get pendulum or link summoning. I'm just like "Go Dark Magician!" cause he use to be good. Good to collect though. 😅

@@asuraphreak yeah man pendulum is so far beyond me but links are okay. As long as it doesn’t mention “co-linked” it’s not to complex

I usually tend to go one slow step at a time for that. lol

@@Zingar96 Co-linking is pretty hard to pull off (right now anyways).

Blue eyes over powered lol your friends are really out of it for real

@@TraaaaaasshBooooaaaatttt if your a new player I could imagine it feeling that way, no need to flame lol.

As someone who Occasionally plays exodia casino OTK in master duel I can see why that deck would feel very un fun for a new player to go into

even as an older player im also unable to get into master duel as partly im lazy to relearn so many combos and decks. as even if u are not playing the deck u also have to learn how the other decks play so that u know when to interrupt or stop their combos at the best time etc. duel links used to be ok but as they also started added more and more similar mechanics to normal yugioh it also became harder and harder for beginners to get into the game.

@@TraaaaaasshBooooaaaatttt Can you beat a competent blue eyes deck with no handtraps, no floodgates, and with a deck that bricks more than them without really understanding your best combos and ratios? Because that's what a new player goes through. Doesn't matter if blue eyes is bad, only that it's better than the newbies'

Try out digimon to one day

I left the game both online and irl for like 2 years. I came back a few days ago and tried to get used to the new cardpool by testing it against the AI's top decks. Imagine my surprise when I found out that the infamous 8 year old kid that came up with absolute gems of balanced card design such as Thunder Dragon Colossus, Red Eyes Dark Dragoon and Destroy Phoenix Enforcer, has now been hired full time and tasked with the creation of new archetypes. I took a quick glance at what Yugioh Card Maker monstrosities he came up with and immediately knew I was in for a crazy ride in this power creep rollercoaster. I tried out one of their newest masterpieces, an archetype called Kshatri-la. A bunch of badass looking Level 7 monsters with 2k+ ATK that special summon themselves from the hand for free. Of course they would do that. If they didn't, how else would you normal summon Aleister the Invoker? Wait, do people even play that engine anymore? Imagine using your normal summon in the year 2022 lmao. Anyway, half of these monsters special summon themselves via inherent special summons and the other half through Quick Effects so good luck preventing them from hitting the field. And if you just so happen to be one of those Yugi-boomers who enjoy doing your normal summons, the archetype's Continuous Spell has got you covered. It lets you normal summon the level 7 monsters with zero tributes. See? Even to this day they cater to the OG fans of the anime in the DM era. By the way, this Spell also works as a Monster Reborn each turn because you can never have too many free revival effects. Redundancy be damned. Here, have a Continuous Trap card with the copy pasted free revival effect. I mean, it's technically different because this one also lets you look and banish cards from your opponent's hand. But it's all fine because Traps are slow and therefore balanced. At least they made them searchable, just like everything else in this archetype. By the way, it is not modern Yugioh unless you cram the effects of multiple Spells and Traps on a single Effect monster. Bonus points if these effects have no cost at all and can be triggered as easily as blinking. Fortunately for us, this prodigious 8 year old card designer delivers in this regard as well. These free beatsticks give you both free card advantage and the best form of spot removal the game has ever seen in the form of banishing face-down. Did I mention both of these effects can be used each turn, even during your opponent's? The Extra Deck monsters (2 rank 7 Xyz) are nothing to seeze at either. One of them is a 3K DEF wall that blocks your opponent's card zones every time you banish their stuff and is not a hard once per turn. It also has built-in protection to destruction because, why not? The other Xyz is a 3K ATK Dark Law with a free Quick Effect spot removal that gains materials, you guessed it, every time you banish your opponent's stuff. I might be reaching little bit here, but it seems that adding insult to injury was the design philosophy behind this archetype. I can't wait to see what the other archetypes are like. I've been hearing lovely things about Tearlaments and Sprights.

I've seen Japanese card shops offer pre-built decks in this vein, including a side deck, and a quick intro on the themes of the decks. They usually were priced around 5,000 to 7,000 yen, as of this comment that'd be around 34 - 48 USD. I'd like to think it'd be a huge win for Konami to release these sort of decks in all regions. Magic has this in the form of Challenger decks, which are decks based on meta decks with less staples inside. I'd love to see a similar product for Yugioh, not only to get people familiarized with some decks that are competitive, but also to get more reprints out into peoples' hands.

This genuinely a good idea, I do have friends who are very weary to playing yugioh. Because it is rather overwhelming game to learn. So having decks that can teach them each summoning mechanic while also giving them idea to what deck building looks like, is great.

this is an absolutely wonderful idea! i wish i could see it being something konami would actually do.

@The tricky tick Thats another problem with Yugioh TCG which doesnt help things at all. Duel devestator was great to get staple cards but you still had to buy 3 of them to get a play set. They need to make staple cards cheaper through lots of reprints. I remember back in the day MST and monster reborn were staples and in every single starter deck/structure deck.

Being 100 transparent... I am 46 years old and I just started playing Yu-Gi-Oh when Master Duel dropped in the beginning of this year. I learned how to play and understand the mechanics by playing the solo mode of the game & my first in-game deck being Trif's FTK/OTK Pend-deck. By Mar 2022, I was buying Battle Of Chaos booster boxes, 2021 Tins, and Maximum Gold El Dorado displays... long ass story less long my first actual IRL deck was a Branded Darklord Despia based off the Albaz Structure deck that i would pilot at locals. Present day I run a Branded TearPlant deck & building my own variation of a Danger!/Tear/Spright/Adventure deck based off of Trif's and Jesse's YCS Brazil decks.... THIS GAME IS NOT DIFFICULT FOR SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO GENUINELY LEARN. My biggest difficulty is reading the small text on so many cards and understanding discarding for cost and discard for effect. I live in Las Vegas and work in the nightclub industry, I'm not suppose to even give a damn about this game but here I am.

Have not really seen any gatekeeping. Of course last time I had a chat about it. everyone had their own different meaning of that word. One guy going, yeah it gatekeeping to not tell your friend about a horror movie, even if you know they hate horror movies and have zero interest in them. Which is why if gatekeeping is a issue. Might be helpful to say what it is and how it happening. Which as for new players. Yeah Most I seen. they just give up, due to all the long card text and even very simple decks making you have to brain blast to understand them.

Missing timing and chain blocking etc are some of the worst rules in yugioh tbh

this is why the games ruling need to be retooled, and junk activation timing. You either meet the cards activation condition or you dont, that simple. many times ive played with lightsworns and ended up dumping lightsworn sabre from my deck by a lightsworns effect, but something else happens and thus "missed the activation timing of Lightsworn sabre" Like EXCUSE ME??? it says it needs to go fromt he top of the deck to the GY by the effect of a lightsworn. and then i can equip it, i just did that but somehow i missed the timing?

Yeah Raidraptor Infernity And Crystal beasts combos are long and even players that know the game do mistakes when playing them , try to memorize the combos in one try it's hard

@@TheFallinhalo put the milling effects to resolve last , if it happens in the middle or at the start of the chain order is how it misses timing also the card is not good , you can cut it for like even metalfoes fusion to get free draw

@@ducky36F yeah it only happens when cards must activate at the same is when you can't get to respond to a specific card until the opponent finishes making the chain order is when you can respond to his last card that he wants to resolve first

It is said that happens. Used to be the worst that happened is you got trapholed or Nightmarewheeled and beat over but not OTK'd. Easier to take than every single move countered and a board built of a one card combo you literally had time to get sandwhich, drink and pay your bill before dying anyway. Heck that's why I'm not playing the festival now. I don't want to play a meta deck or premade I just want to play for fun but everyone's a troll or just playing brain dead negate everything.

@@daviddent5662 I'm sorry I built meta deck because I'm a FTP player so to save my resources I need to make at least 3 meta deck with different mechanic (now I have 5 meta deck)... Because resources is important I never craft when I built a rogue deck, if I didn't get a UR card that I want I will destroy it to get a staple card (that can't be gotten in secret pack). Now I have 5 rogue deck that can be played just to have fun

I agree. I think the best approach is to literally start from scratch, teach them the core basics like it was in the very beginning of the game, and incrementally go up from there. One of my friends wanted to learn how to play the game and another friend scared them off with teaching one of the current (of that time) meta decks and combos. That's way too much to chew when you have little or even no knowledge how the game works in the first place.

@@PhantomPlaymaker25 that sucks, I'm always super excited when there's an opportunity to get new people into this community. My usual strategy is starting with goat, then edison, then HAT, and finally modern once the person has a grasp on everything

@@chrismiller3548 Same, GOAT format, or even earlier game, is a great start for newcomers. It's not as competetive, but casual play is still fun, even when you can only play with just few people.

@@PhantomPlaymaker25 there's also a ton of variety in goat as far as the monsters and themes you can play with besides just chaos

@@chrismiller3548 True. GOAT didn't have as many archetypes as we do have now though. There were Gravekeepers, Chaos Decks as you say were a thing, but mostly there were just cards that synergysed with one another and could be used in variety of decks. Now we have bunch of archetypes in which you can get easily lost in. Meta ones have insane combos you can hardly outplay if you just recently started doing competetive. Back in the day there were broken cards and combos too, but the game state was simpler to get into and faster to get from casual to competetive and deal with it, I feel like.

I've been playing MTG for 17 years and yugi as a side game for like 10 years... the combos in yugi are so convoluted and specific within each archetype, that it gets annoying. In MTG we have simple 2 cards combos like "when you lose life I gain life + when I gain life you lose life" that make an infinite loop. But the cards in MTG are pretty generic in what they do and the archetypes are way more broad, so you can even use cards on multiple types of decks if necessary. The difficulty of learning yugi is you will have to know and understand each specific combo for each deck and that is just memorizing a LOT of cards. I can easily sit and explain magic to a new player, but for explaining yugi you have to learn every time you encounter a new deck.

Part of the issue is a lot of players don’t try to explain what happen after a loss and just leave people out to dry.

@@cabri358 For me, the fact that each of the archetypes in Yugioh do play so differently is part of the appeal. If someone on the outside watched a turn of Sky Striker, Cardian, Floowandereeze, or Vaylantz play out they'd probably swear each of those decks came from completely different card games rather than all being Yugioh decks. While I understand it can be frustrating to some to have to memorize what feels like multiple different games just to play one card game, that wide variance of play styles and strategies is my favorite part of it. It's also why I like Commander so much in MTG, a high powered commander can completely warp how you build and play a deck and I like the variety that brings.

Well put. Nothing is a better learning curve on conserving resources than watching your expensive Vorinclex get countered by a simple Negate and realizing you could have played your four cost and had room for Tamiyo's Safekeeping or Snakeskin Veil for a better advantage. I also think MTG rewards more "monkey see monkey do". Watching a player do something in Yugioh that's just two cards long isn't hard to teach somebody to replicate and it works for MTG for sure, but when it's a Pendulum effect that's causing a spooky interaction or five tokens just came down and they banish something from the grave at the same time to make it happen....yeah it takes a long time replicate and not many new players are going to feel they can do it.

@@nicholastheall619 Or can't explain in the case of Master Drool with no chat and most people not playing against friends or worse friends pulling a school of hard knocks like it's anime. "You will learn this by me beating you with it. Then one day you will beat it yourself and feel twice the reward!" TuT Nooo! Don't do that to noobs. XD It might seem fun and anime but no don't. One of the best things about Paper Modern for me personally in MTG: after the match and sometimes even during when facing a judge I would get tips on how I could do things better. It wasn't all monkey see monkey do or prove to me you are worthy. MTG players usually treat each other as worthy from the outset. Like how I showed a n00b how Hyrkull's Recall worked on all his artifact creatures and a judge leaned over from his game and was like "And because he's using lands with that type as well he loses them when you cast it." it was sad but it was a good teaching moment. I also took his deck apart and assessed it as if it were my own and gave him the usual modern speech of: "if it's just jank you want this will do but honestly 100+$ in fetches or shocks wouldn't hurt you. Also please sleeve this Rystic Buddy? It's a 25$ card, my brother." We shared info and it felt good! Even in DL we don't always do that and it's much friendlier than MD. I don't know about paper Yugioh players. I would hope they are all like Team APS and break stuff down to people who don't know what they're doing.

Speed Duels

@@justheretowatchvideosandco9424 Speed Duels don't really address it... Because the thing I was curious about was all the crazy and weird mechanics bolted onto the game since it was a bland no-resource-system game in 2002. The more weird stuff the better. If I thought it would play like the 2002 game, I wouldn't want to look at it... But, well, am I contradicting myself? Saying that the only reason I was interested in seeing where it had gotten to, was that it would be insanely complex? But, the thing I'm alleging is this: The original core mechanics of Yu-Gi-Oh! are not good. They are not the basis for a good card game. The extra things bolted on have to carry it. And... Maybe there isn't a solution to that, that makes it "simple" or "elegant" or "approachable" as well as interesting to me. But then... I'm here, aren't I? I'm mad enough to actually get into this game. Maybe that's fine, that only insane people can actually get into it. It's still one of the bestselling card games in the world, right? Well, in the end mostly I WOULD ask for UI/typesetting changes to make cards easier to read. I don't think it's excusable to format card text the way this game does. If the card text were formatted the way I want, I think that a lot of the complexity would be easier to deal with. And it would feel cooler, because the reading and playing experience would be smoother. The elaborate plays would come across better as some anime power-up sequence, rather than puzzling out card text like an LSAT question.

To play any card game you need to know what your deck does. That’s not knew to yugioh. Happens in every cardgame. So to is needing to know how your opponent’s stuff works which could something entirely different to you. That’s assuming you are playing in a competative enviroment. If you aren’t you have never needed to know as much.

Ive recently been teaching yugioh to a friend and the first thing I showed is chains and when/if differences. Imo if they don't quit after explaining what solemn judgement can and can't negate then they wont find the game complicated.

@@tyllisvfx ☠️ Solemn Judgement rulings. Good luck

Yugioh has “time wizard” which they could use to make and promote GOAT and Edison products or even put on master duel. They just choose not too.

You got that in casual. They aren't going any further I don't think. With the Advent of Links DL is even gearing up to get as bad. Casual doesn't last simply cause the machine keeps marching and evolving. The closest you can get in MD is to find friends who like playing GOAT or Edison formats or do what Rhymestyle has been doing with banlists that use the pack era itself. Alas until Master Duel lets us craft forbidden cards in the format you do have to make some exceptions but he and SeReax have a pretty good time being classic Yugioh players without any need to use the ex deck much at all or handtrap everything in existence. Worth checking out.

But it's a deck whose entire gimmick is to entirely circumvent a core summoning rule, and eff around with the banished zone despite it ostensibly being the place cards are supposed to be removed for good. Sure l, someone new can learn the deck, but it's like teaching someone the rules to baseball and explaining the infield fly rule before how to steal

building a deck is the most fun aspect of any card game imo

It definitely is mentally taxing. Not sure how people even find this game fun today when everyone ends their turn with near identical negate boards. I wonder if people only play because it's the only thing they are good at rather than having fun.

What decks are you playing?

Nothing really, I'm too scared to play. So I'm just collecting.

@@TheNateRule I highly recommend finding some people to play causal decks with its a ton of fun

Tf are you talking about?

or just play custom games with friends

i agree, i grew up on yugioh, few years ago i got into MTG, the slow ramp in MTG does let the game last longer, however flooding or missing lands is kind of a nuisance..