Something Still Feels Off with XDefiant...

Something Still Feels Off with XDefiant... | (Server Test Feedback)

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Күн бұрын

XDefiant held a server test over the weekend and as nice as it is to jump back in the game, I still can't help but feel that some things are off and today, I wanted to share some detailed feedback that I feel could improve at least some of the "off" feeling. What are your thoughts on XDefiant after this server test?
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0:00 Intro
0:50 Some Clarification & Context
2:43 Recoil Recenter Issue
5:16 Shots not hitting on reticle?
7:09 Awkward Sprintout Situations
8:29 Crazy Crosshair Bobbing
9:21 Head Bobbing Too Pronounced
9:58 Controller Settings are Tough
11:00 My Netcode Experience on this Test
12:18 Final Thoughts & Wrap Up

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@TheXclusiveAce Ай бұрын

UDPATE: They extended the server test for several more hours and I'll be streaming it on my Twitch channel in a little bit: www.twitch.tv/thexclusiveace

@jortepap Ай бұрын

When you use the green laser that improves accuracy, your shots DO go where you aim. BEST attachment 👌

@jacobmiller6916 Ай бұрын

Hoping it's continuing before I get off work as I haven't been able to play at all unfortunately this weekend lol. Edit:saw its live till 4 so nevermind I'm not playing I guess lol

@oxonomy2372 Ай бұрын

Hoping they extend until the end of the day on Monday 🤞 I really want to try this game

@jacobmiller6916 Ай бұрын

@@oxonomy2372 I unfortunately don't think they're going to unless it's last minute again. Hoping though

@TecraX2 Ай бұрын

The problem of finding the right settings is exacerbated by how short these playtests are. I think XDefiant would have benefited greatly if the devs would have had more of an "Just leave the servers on" mentality, especially last year!

@xxPhoenixX-sg9tr Ай бұрын

The netcode and hit reg are horrendous. Also it feels like I’m shooting marshmallows when my opponents are killing me in 2 shots

@will-zj5gq Ай бұрын

headshots bro

@elg7365 Ай бұрын

@@will-zj5gqdude are you getting paid?

@will-zj5gq Ай бұрын

@@elg7365 y’all complaining about things that are wrong with y’all. learn the game and you wouldn’t have problems

@-Zelo Ай бұрын

@@will-zj5gq lol bro none of us can do anything about the bad hit reg. I've literally hit 4 headshots in a row on someone and only one actually registered. It happens all the time.

@Kluck0816 Ай бұрын

@@will-zj5gqdon't be a dick. It's a known problem and just cuz ur shit doesn't mean others are.

@reeseatkinson5796 Ай бұрын

You really are the most articulate person I’ve ever heard. It’s like all the issues I had in the game I couldn’t put into words you just did. And beautifully I might add

@_Keego_ Ай бұрын

I have been subbed since you were at 150kish subs. I don't know how you are not at 1 mil yet. You are doing gods work brother. Keep up the great content!

@BobbyBoushaay Ай бұрын

Linear 30/30 .80 ADS 5% deadonzes 110 Fov Felt really good using these settings. Died once or twice around the corner cause of the netcode but nothing too ridiculous. I really enjoyed my time with the game!

@ideenlos9242 Ай бұрын

Oh my god I was wondering why shooting feels so off in this game but I thought its just that Im to used to COD but he actually found out exactly why, Developers should definitly hire this guy or enlist hgim as an official game tester

@SmoovyNovaFan Ай бұрын

COD devs probably watching this and thinking with a smug thinking "not so easy after all huh"

@Dark.Syndicate Ай бұрын

@@SmoovyNovaFan cod has a much larger dev team, more than a decade of experience, is constantly getting updated, has a much larger playerbase for feedback, yet still has garbage optimization and hacker issues. xdefiant is still a baby in comparison.

@SmoovyNovaFan Ай бұрын

@@Dark.Syndicate which is crazy to think even with all its issues that most people still consider it the gold standard of controller FPS gaming💀the same way CS is for MnK FPS

@Dark.Syndicate Ай бұрын

@@SmoovyNovaFan since when is garbage cod gold standard? maybe those people lack knowledge and also maybe bcoz consoles lack better fps games? I dont know about the latter

@barryboner1332 Ай бұрын

Why bother he’s already doing it for free?

@alliedvoyd Ай бұрын

That camera shake is like feeling the pea under the mattress. So refined :D

@minhtfresh3195 Ай бұрын

Projectiles feel thin. That’s probably the best way to put it.

@oxonomy2372 Ай бұрын

Such a good analogy

@hrhhrhrh Ай бұрын

I played about 5 games and uninstalled. The number of "shoot First, die first" deaths, 0 damage hitmarkers, and dying miles behind cover made it a very unremarkable experience.

@FEWGEE1 Ай бұрын

I played two, uninstalled, and then removed it from my wishlist. It's even worse than it was a year ago.

@BigDonSkillz Ай бұрын

100% agreed. I didn't get through my first match. This game gets worse every time I play it. I've given it too many chances but the odd delay that the game has and the AWFUL netcode completely destroys this game

@will-zj5gq Ай бұрын

no skill base matchmaking, free to play, this game will be fine from those two alone. from those two alone it’s better than mw3.

@BigDonSkillz Ай бұрын

@@will-zj5gq nope....not if the gunplay and netcode sucks. That doesn't make up for skill based matchmaking lmfao.

@will-zj5gq Ай бұрын

@@BigDonSkillz it doesn’t suck y’all suck. trying to use mp7’s across the map and wonder why you can’t kill fast.

@DohBoi863 Ай бұрын

Thanks for the video, hopefully they fix some of the things you mentioned in the review.

@flamesword300 Ай бұрын

My biggest problem with XDefiant was the health regeneration. That slowed down the game for me to much. I’d get into gun fights kill 2 people frequently enough if I got lucky I could get a third sometime and I would have to go hide somewhere and sit there before I could go engage other player or help attack/defend an objective. Doesn’t need to be instant because I understand it’s somewhat because of faction abilities but I still think they could improve it across the board.

@passingcars2022 Ай бұрын

This 100% either should just half the regen time, or remove the stim shot type ability and make regen same as cod. Maybe even slightly faster. I was tired of hiding behind walls for so long after each gunfight.

@ohnobro3770 Ай бұрын

Fr hide for five minutes to heal after a fight get hit with a corner of a grenade as I start to heal for 1 hp delay healing then die cause of it worst match ever lmao

@giff74 Ай бұрын

They've been struggling with net code since last summer. If the hit reg and de-sync are off then the entire game will feel like a mess. 3 Arc had small-ish trouble in the past with net code and those games never felt as good as IW for gun play. Feels like they need substantially more time to finish baking this game.

@xxPhoenixX-sg9tr Ай бұрын

Exactly. The last beta 10 months ago was a way better feeling. So my question is what the hell did they do for the last 10 months

@therileyobrien Ай бұрын

The problem isn’t time. There is conflict between the devs and the upper management. They’ll never be allowed the budget required for good server tick rate.

@giff74 Ай бұрын

@@therileyobrien Yep, heard that also.

@P4brotagonist Ай бұрын

I agree with you on the Treyarch thing, but most people will tear you apart. Black Ops 1 and 2 had some of the most HORRENDOUS netcode I've ever seen for triple A game, and people still say BO2 was the best feeling one. BO1 had issues with desynced character models and like 1 in every 5 bullets just vanishing, and BO2 had literally 130ms of engine delay, meaning that even playing on LAN was like playing on an IW game 2 bar connection.

@Dangerman-zg3ui Ай бұрын

FINALLY SOMEONE TALKING ABOUT 3 Arc's horrendous net code! Yeah their CoD games just feel terrible to play with being in gunfights and losing. Infinity Ward games always felt had better hit reg way more of the time.

@damianmartin15 Ай бұрын

Better than last test, but yeah "feels clunky" is a good way to describe it

@ideenlos9242 Ай бұрын

This Game is the opposite of Overwatch. I hate Overwatch as a game (balance etc) but it feels so polished and just Good to shoot and use abbilities that I always come back to playing it. While I love XDefiant just playing it feels so bad (for me personnally) that I always stop playing after 1 or 2 matches. I go back in because I think I just have to get used to it, nope still feels bad, I leave. I really hope they can fix this

@sheeki8688 Ай бұрын

I did the same thing. I want to play and I thought it was just skill issue and I would get better but nope it just doesn't feel right

@JuanRomero-bn8yz Ай бұрын

The disconnected feeling is a Ubisoft thing. I literally cannot play their fps games. It’s very strange and I can’t pinpoint what exactly it is. I play on PC and have had the same issue you are describing.

@nah8780 Ай бұрын

nah fr idk what they're doing but every game (except R6 for some reason) has insane input lag, especially on controller, their Far Cry 3 remaster is notorious for being broken on console yet they never fixed it 💀

@AbysmalEnd Ай бұрын

Sure but siege doesn't have this problem.

@deagle2yadome696 Ай бұрын

not siege tho

@flamingscar5263 Ай бұрын

@@AbysmalEnd it use to, took years for the problem to be solved it seems that Ubisoft has not learned there lesson and will happily repeat history

@Hybred Ай бұрын

This game used Hyperscape as a base (the engine and some of the animations) and Hyperscape felt the same way. It's mostly because of the poor animation quality (robotic, snappy, artificial) and things not syncing up properly. That's why I attribute it to.

@laidesman1997 Ай бұрын

How do you get your team to play the objective? I never had that in my 2 hours of play

@berserkslayer8638 Ай бұрын

Thank you so much, now I know why the shooting felt so off, especially on the P90. 7:22 omg this was so noticeable, it happened with the sniper so I had to tune it with different attachments.

@eliramon420 Ай бұрын

I played this yesterday and it just felt painful experience wise. Seeing the way people were either doing the games version of slide canceling, jiggle peaking, and B-Hopping in a PLAYTEST? Not to mention how inconsistent the TTK and hit reg felt the whole time i was playing made the whole experience infuriating when I was looking forward to this. I'm in my early 20s and i started getting the feeling again of "Feeling too old/out of place" for FPS games nowadays and being a college student not having the time to sit on a game for six hours straight everyday. It's like nobody just tries to have genuine fun like how things use to be, I'm sorry for the rant but its just how this game and gaming as a whole has changed so much

@bone-snypa Ай бұрын

should disable jumping in these games & see how many people stop playing them

@-Zelo Ай бұрын

Yea its tough. I'm going on late 20s trying to keep up with the younger generation of sweats and while I do pretty good I definitely don't have the reaction time or energy to play that I used to.

@meetbythecreek Ай бұрын

I feel like you just suck bro

@deagle2yadome696 Ай бұрын

the game NEEDS SBMM that’s why, people hate on SBMM but modern shooters NEED it i simply WONT play a game where i’m getting shit on my nerds who can play 8 hours a day match after match after match good luck getting me to buy battle passes or bundles, this game will die within months due to this sadly which sucks cause it has a LOT of potential

@bone-snypa Ай бұрын

@@deagle2yadome696 no it doesn't need sbmm

@Theboxersisters Ай бұрын

Pretty spot on assessment

@diogocarvalho2813 Ай бұрын

great video i feel the same way with every beta or play test i had a lot of fun with this game but if these sort of issues dont get fixed i wont stick for long

@thephototechy Ай бұрын

Hey so initially the aiming felt off to me, using the reverse s type, with acceleration multiplier of 1.3 with 50-50 sens made it feel really good. It’s like the quick flicking takes place much further on the stick compared to cod. Net code was the only downside for me, as other aspects felt good. Audio for instance was really good, hearing enemies approaching and activating your ability was really fun. The best thing was not worrying after a good game that it’s time to be humbled, or have team mates that would literally won’t do anything, team balancing felt great to me. I do hope they can fix the issues, coz ace is absolutely right a lot of people will not play with these issues.

@elg7365 Ай бұрын

To be honest netcoding will be really tested when the true game comes out. When hundreds of thousands games will hop on and servers will be in their limit.

@kaidog8204 Ай бұрын

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who felt like they were pumping bullet after bullet into enemies and yet I was only dying in two or three hits

@kbtigah5502 Ай бұрын

great video @thexclusiveace i feel the exact same way. I’m really pulling for this game and their Devs. It seems like their heart is in the right place, but as you point out the ADS clunkiness and the inconsistent net code are holding it back. And i still am really enjoying the test this weekend. close, but not ready.

@mash2481 Ай бұрын

Yeah, sometimes my character will just move even without me putting in any input. Nothing to do with dead zones, either, as I made sure they’re set right.

@moretoastedthanatoasterstr9773 Ай бұрын

Bro fucking same 😂

@MostCedric Ай бұрын

I feel the same. Thank you Ace.

@ShyEdits Ай бұрын

This is amazing feedback that you are providing to the XDefiant team and I think this will help them make the best version of the game by release. Well done.

@nathanh2725 Ай бұрын

My only real problem is it feels clunky and i couldnt figure out how to make aiming feel smooth and polished like cod, so i ended up just going back to cod

@jonathanalcide3977 Ай бұрын

Get aim assit

@nickc3365 Ай бұрын

I think you nailed it. Some games felt good then all of a sudden the next one did not. I stopped playing pretty quickly after multiple games where the gameplay just felt not in sinc

@MrLJS1988 Ай бұрын

That’s so weird Ace, I had the same feeling abut the controller at the last play test for console. It felt much better to me this time. I’ve seen several people say similar things on both sides. I wonder why it’s not consistent for everyone.

@red_7594 Ай бұрын

Ace are you planning to make gun guides on xdefiant when it launches (eventually) because am looking forward to it and you are by far the best at making the gun guides

@TheXclusiveAce Ай бұрын

I'm going to gauge the response with a few videos at launch and go from there. If it's really popular, I may even boot up a second channel for non-CoD content.

@MieziWithSunglxzz Ай бұрын

Hit reg is off which makes it unplayable, if a shooter has issues with registering your hits what is the point of shooting at a target?

@P4brotagonist Ай бұрын

Idk, but everyone loved BO1 and BO2 and they had the same issues

@theshankpain2228 Ай бұрын

@@P4brotagonist😂 true

@joeyscrewdriver336 Ай бұрын

Cod WW2 had the sprint out / ADS issue and we had to break sprint by firing rather then ADS and it felt terrible

@zoanth4 Ай бұрын

I honestly don't remember that

@joeyscrewdriver336 Ай бұрын

@@zoanth4 I can’t remember but they may have fixed it. I remember they had the perk that would allow you to fire while sprinting that helped also. But a lot of the guns at launch had the ADS / sprint out disparity

@bradenmchenry995 Ай бұрын

@@joeyscrewdriver336ww2 guns had really slow sprint out times until condry got fired (relocated) and they overhauled the entire multiplayer in early 2018

@richardfowler6969 Ай бұрын

Can’t wait to see 1 million Subscribers on here.

@jaahuj Ай бұрын

7:09 Now that you mentioned it. This is SO annoying when it happens while sniping. I didn't even realize this is the reason it happens. This was a huge problem in the other betas as well when trying to quickscope and I just thought the game didn't let me shoot until I was fully ADS.

@xCriZzZ Ай бұрын

Exactly! I'm sniping and this shit was annoying tbh.

@_Balanced_ Ай бұрын

This is exactly what I expected. I heard people mentioning it right away. And I was like alright no need to play the game test then.

@michaelespeland Ай бұрын

I played for 10 hours this weekend, and honestly...I never got bored. I still want more, despite all the issues. It feels way more fun than cod, there is no fatigue due to organic and fast matchmaking, which I really didn't expect to feel ever again. If they released XDefiant tomorrow, in it's current state, I would play it, happily, where they could push out fixes as the weeks progressed. That being said, I didn't "feel" any of these issues as strongly as many others did.

@James_08_07 Ай бұрын

Yep exactly the same for me! No fatigue at all. I played 3 games of MW3 in the free weekend before j never wanted to play again.

@James_08_07 Ай бұрын

Yep exactly the same for me! No fatigue at all. I played 3 games of MW3 in the free weekend before I never wanted to play again.

@dustblowingman Ай бұрын

Sounds like you are just coping with the worse feeling gunplay because there's no SBMM

@michaelespeland Ай бұрын

@@dustblowingman Oh stop gatekeeping. Its so cringe. It feels way better than the slow, campy and artificially inflated mess that is cod. Just got back onto mw3 and it feels heavy and slow in comparison

@michaelespeland Ай бұрын

@@James_08_07 MW3 is ok…at best. But I totally know the feeling.

@hamza-chaudhry Ай бұрын

Nice stuff picking these things out

@nealerickson7 Ай бұрын

I did not participate in the server test because I learned this reality a long time ago. Nothing has ever "felt as good to play" as COD, ever! We complain and whine about aspects of COD but we should really be thankful we always have a game that feels great to play. I am pulling for XD. I really am. I luv specialists! I played BO4 even last year. But no game will ever draw me away unless it nails the moving/shooting recipe feel COD offers.

@anthonystivala970 Ай бұрын

Yes. Thank you. The movement felt very off. And definitely experienced what felt like hitting opponents with 8 or 9 rounds and still wasn’t getting kills meanwhile they would turn and kill me instantly. I agree with most of what you said. Thanks for the feedback and giving a voice to the concerns.

@xGamerGeek Ай бұрын

Something i experience a lot with snipers, was that there was a wierd delay from when tou pull the trigger, till the bullet fires😮 And some inconsistent hit reg.

@seanbrennacossell4765 Ай бұрын

Thought it was just me

@RektByPoneY Ай бұрын

Sprint issue is even more common with slow aim snipers with fast aim build it's so bizarre how this work, and network wise I might be wrong but I find that sometimes even you hit an ennemie and show you the hitmarker, the enemie actually doesnt take thoses dmg at all. Maybe hitmakers are client side and dmg dealt are servers side MAYYYYBE. A good game with a lot of potential, hope they will improve the game and hopefully make this pressure that CoD's need to try harder. Thx for the video, like always a great work! ps: i'm french, sry if my english is not perfect at all

@coldfries8976 Ай бұрын

It was the worst test and i played all test so far. This one i only played to level 10 because it was so awful. You can legit shoot people through walls.

@ft7126 Ай бұрын

You hit the nail on the head with all the current issues with the game. But surprising with all its current flaws i thoroughly enjoyed the beta. Completely addicted to it and will be playing day one when its offcially released.

@goldenalex22 Ай бұрын

I 100% agree with every single point, except one: The view bobbing, I didn’t notice there was any issues with the bobbing the movement bobbing. whenever you’re sprinting I didn’t even notice there was any. So a little confused on what’s so “jarring”about it… But other than that, every single issue that I had, you touched on, every single one of them, from net code, to sprint to fire, to controller settings, everything.. Legitimately I want this game to succeed just as much as the next person, but with these issues in place, it makes it really difficult for me to come back and continue enjoying this game…

@smokedout7129 Ай бұрын

I hope it comes out polished no matter how long it takes. It has the potential, it just needs to deliver on it.

@xxPhoenixX-sg9tr Ай бұрын

It needs at least another year to get anywhere near enjoyable imo. If they release this soon it will fail

@will-zj5gq Ай бұрын

@@xxPhoenixX-sg9trit’s a free to play game they just need to release it.

@elg7365 Ай бұрын

@@will-zj5gqhahahaha free to play means cheaters

@will-zj5gq Ай бұрын

@@elg7365 anyone better than you is a cheater

@johhnybubbz Ай бұрын

@@will-zj5gqubisoft will take the severs down by october mark my words.

@iskabin Ай бұрын

It's funny because most of what you experienced I experience in CoD daily

@kerchoomcqueen Ай бұрын

The slowdown aim assist is definitely stronger than CoDs, possibly to compensate for the slightly lower rotational aim assist. That being said, I felt that aiming was a lot better with the slowdown value set to -5. Personally I could easily deal with the controller feel, especially in comparison to older CoD games, the 2 main issues for me are the netcode still being wonky, and also in particular to this test, the disbanding lobbies and amount of lobbies I would join in progress. Balancing is also a little all over the place atm, people complaining a lot about snipers but I think the answer is keep the 1 shot weapons the same, but improve the auto weapons, the ttk doesn't need to be this long for an arcade shooter.

@EngageTV Ай бұрын

Ace did u get a new Microphone?

@ricolives1166 Ай бұрын

I genuinely think this test was very good. The only true 2 big issues are hit reg and lobbies disbanding after most games but the disbanding honestly does not bother me. Those are just my 2 main problems and my personal ones are those players who bunny hop but that's just CoD players excited for not having sbmm. Other than that, I truly believe the game is finish. I experienced no lag. No crashing. I played the beta and liked it too but the hit reg just needs help. Also the narrator saying you are on a rampage after 1 kill or at the start of the game is funny. And then he randomly says "im getting killed" like what? OH! HOWEVER I do desperately want a "mute all" button in the lobby or in game. I'm tired of joining a lobby and dudes yelling to the top of their lungs Edit: Yeah Ace I noticed that too where bullets just go slightly off and you can clearly see bullets miss

@xxPhoenixX-sg9tr Ай бұрын

Netcode is the worse I’ve seen yet. It feels like a glorified mobile game. It needs at least another year of work at minimum. The beta I played 10 months ago felt better

@will-zj5gq Ай бұрын

@@xxPhoenixX-sg9trit’s feels the exact same as before bro 💀

@James_08_07 Ай бұрын

Lobbies started staying together for me today, I wonder if they were making changes on the fly.

@James_08_07 Ай бұрын

@@xxPhoenixX-sg9tr”glorified mobile game”… c’mon man that’s just not true.

@James_08_07 Ай бұрын

You can turn off voice chat mate 👍🏻 It’s Square once in a match and looking at the scoreboard and the setting is persistent.

@ArrowFunction Ай бұрын

It would be great if they reached out to you for more detailed feedback to get a better game. I thought it looked great and was a good amount there, but like you say just did not feel finished. For me the netcode 'felt' off, I noticed getting shot through walls after I was in cover a LOT. Unfortunately, for me, even if they addressed everything I would still not play the game due to the insane amount of jumping (bunnyhopping) I experienced. It was ridiculous how many people just hopped about with incredible aim. That's just not fun for me. It's annoying in CoD, but in XDefiant it seemed way OP. Great Video.

@Ruby-fd6vd Ай бұрын

For the shots not hitting on reticle, it's a game mechanic, there is ads spread. The ADS Stability statistic helps fixing that I believe.

@WeShallC Ай бұрын

I hated being shot around corners but it was fun to play something new.

@Belly6815 Ай бұрын

The super TTD Vs TTK is likely to related. From back in the day, you get super packets where all the art attackers damage comes through in one update.

@RazerKILLL Ай бұрын

This describes my experience perfectly. If everything in this vid was fixed, it will be a great game but not feeling it in the current state. If it releases like this I will probably only last a week on it.

@-JoyKiller- Ай бұрын

This game had quite a few positives, and some glaring negatives for us. My son and I played for about 12 hours over the weekend. Positives: We really liked the flow of the maps, they looked and felt great The game audio was awesome, except for that announcer, that volume went to 0 in a hurry The input based/crossplay matchmaking was a huge. Wish we had that option in CoD. Negatives: One match, aiming felt like greased sandals on ice. The next felt normal, the next felt like my DPI was at 400. I know this was a server stress test, but good god was it frustrating at times. It seemed like on our end, 1 in 5 shots were registering, and we were dying in one shot from everything. One match in particular, a player was stationary and I hit them with 20 rounds from my M4 at what I would call medium/close range before they turned and laid me out with a single shot from their double barrel. Another instance was Pueblito, a player was crouched looking under the garage door, i came up behind with an mp7, 10 shots to the back of their head and I died to their P90 in what felt like a tenth of a second. This is how the game played for us the majority of the time. Mantling/vaulting/getting up from a slide has an odd hitch about it that kind of breaks the momentum. Not too big of a deal, just kind of an eyebrow raising thing. All in all, I can see the potential with this game, I just hope this test provided them with enough data to get some kinks worked out.

@smilingcanuck6701 Ай бұрын

That aim down sight- sprint out disconnect explains so much. It just feels so off and unresponsive. Tried shotguns and it’s just really off.

@DonDahlmann Ай бұрын

It was horrible on MnK for me. I had huge aiming and tracking issues and the problem you showed with the recentering maybe a part of it. But in general: I felt disconnected from the gun and my shots. It was more "spray and pray" than actual aiming. I never felt confident with my shots. I am not the best FPS gamer, and I am old, but I never had such a feeling in a game. Even Shatterline felt better. I played around with the settings for a couple of hours. High Sens, Low Sens, ADS multiplier up and down etc. While my aiming with low sens felt somewhat better, the feeling of being disconnected was always there. I gave up on the second day. Also want to mention, that I did not have this feeling in the first closed beta test a year ago. They added that with the second beta and since then, it never changed for me.

@DainRiffgin89 Ай бұрын

I was interested to try it, but after a couple of hours, I was done. The netcode, specifically with hit reg, was terrible: I could see numerous times where I got a hit marker, but did no actual damage. It also didn't help that, while it boasts that there is "No SBMM", I was running into the exact same skill discrepancy issues in matches as COD: me stuck on a team where 9/10 times my teammates were either deathly allergic to the objective or couldn't hit the broad side of a barn from the inside, meanwhile the enemy team was laser focused, bunny hopping everywhere and could quickscope you before you could even react. So many games just turned into a blatant one sided slaughter, where every good player was on one team or the other. At least with COD the gunplay feels better and the hit reg is far more consistent. The sad part was I wanted to like this, I really did. But at the end of the day, it just felt unfinished, and I didn't have a reason to keep playing.

@ohnobro3770 Ай бұрын

There is no sbmm you got unlucky ppl just aren’t used to not seeing sbmm anymore it’s confirmation biased. You just got unlucky bro it happens some ppl don’t know how to play games it makes me so mad dude no one plays objective anymore

@nathanh2725 Ай бұрын

Casuals don't even know this game exist at the moment that's why

@TheFrankIcon Ай бұрын

It is literally a play test....IT IS unfinished 😂

@nathanh2725 Ай бұрын

@TheFrankIcon yeah but how long does it take to make a game bro

@TheFrankIcon Ай бұрын

@nathanh2725 if you are not Activision, literal YEARS lol. And even they just pump out unfinished games and rely on slowly fixing it over the first year after release. 😂

@blobeyeordie Ай бұрын

I hope they add more options for adjusting the HUD and on screen UI elements with regards to their size and location. The HUD feels very claustrophobic and obstructive. Aside from whats mentioned in the video, I really hope they are able to add MNK to console as the PC test was littered with suspicious stuff. People under and out of the maps, infinite xray vision and a good few potential aimbotters. Fortunately cods implementation of MNK is fairly decent enough(still not PC like), that people can enjoy the game on something theyre comfortable with. Especially if like me, you get carpal tunnel when holding controllers for periods of time. Makes me quickly remember why I switched to console for these genres of games years ago.

@carnab Ай бұрын

My biggest gripe as an M&K player is the ADS sensitivity options. Instead of changing the global magnification scaling we simply have to deal with the default scaling and set "Low Zoom" and "High Zoom" sensitivity multipliers. In my case, this means if I set my sensitivity to be comfortable at 3x magnification, everything lower will feel unusably slow, while making it comfortable at 1x has the opposite effect for higher magnifications. This may feel, and even _be,_ an utterly trivial matter for many, who find the default scaling to be close to comfortable; however, for someone like me who's muscle-memory strays too far from said scaling, it genuinely makes the game completely unenjoyable. I'd be interested to know how many people agree with this sentiment, as my suggestion in the official Discord server's appropriate channel, following the previous play-test, was to no avail.

@Ixtls Ай бұрын

Personally i loved it. I have loved every test, closed and open session/beta. The most important issue that you pointed out, the random times net code or ttk was randomly in favour to my opponents. I know people will say its a skill issue, though when you play a game for multiple hours on end you start to have a visual memory of the damage/bullets you're taking or giving. The variables when these issues occur stick out like a sore thumb.

@VetBodGaming Ай бұрын

The re-centering issue is also on Kbm, I tested only holding the LMB and no matter what I did it would not re-center with no noticeable movement in any direction. Also same issue with reticle. This server test felt like a step backwards, It felt more like the initial insider sessions.

@luxx3342 Ай бұрын

I agree with all of your points. It feels really good, but not the overall polished and refined feeling of a game like COD is. I really hope they can fix alot of the things making it feel inconsistent cause the game has alot of potential!

@Pr0digyZRX Ай бұрын

I actually mostly enjoyed playing XDefiant. Even though I only got to play a bit over an hour thanks to having to work 12 hour shifts all weekend (like every playtest somehow) but I never did find the correct settings to make it feel comfortable aiming. While moving around the map it felt slow and sluggish to look around and center on areas I expected an enemy even at 100-100 sensitivity. But then at higher sensitivities you just can't aim. Maybe some of the stuff you pointed out in this video may have had something to do with the feel I had during the playtest. But it definitely felt weird af on controller

@kennychiang9239 Ай бұрын

Ace is spot on. I found the controls in Xdefiant to be very off and most youtuber cant pin point exactly what is wrong. But every point Ace has mentioned is contributing to the off feeling when you think about it. I think Xdefiant is close to getting the controls perfect so hopefully Mark Ruben can watch this.

@danbeforetime Ай бұрын

This is a wonderful rundown of the issues as they stand. TBH, I think they should release it asap and just fix it on the fly. If it sits for another 6 months, I'm afraid it's DOA. Treyarch has had 4 years of dev time on Gulf War. This year's COD is going to bang.

@mikep1212 Ай бұрын

I have an issue where something weird happens with ADS'ing when shooting where my aiming just snaps off target about an inch (screen measurement). It might be view kick or flinch but it's so annoying. See your gunfight a 7:07 where it looks like the aiming over compensates and snaps off target.

@markpangilinan7770 Ай бұрын

When I first played the server test version of XDefiant, the gunplay felt awful where the TTK is painfully slow that it felt like Ubisoft’s take on Black Ops 4 in my opinion. Also, the maps are too big for 6v6 and it should be more reserved for like 10v10 or 20v20 if the game has a specific mode to it. Overall, I’m pretty sure Ubisoft could make as much improvements as possible before launch.

@xxPhoenixX-sg9tr Ай бұрын

They need at least another 6 months to a year to make this enjoyable

@markpangilinan7770 Ай бұрын

@@xxPhoenixX-sg9tr If this game doesn’t get polished by summer, then I’m thinking it’ll be released in the fall.

@James_08_07 Ай бұрын

Too big for 6v6?! There’s an engagement every 5s unless you’re camping.

@markpangilinan7770 Ай бұрын

@@James_08_07 At least if I’m playing escort, I can camp right by where the robot carrying the package is.

@davidkoo6236 Ай бұрын

it's so frustrating with all of these issues because despite all that, the game is still fun as hell to play. i miss having good strafe speeds like the old days!

@Rockstarrclarke 15 күн бұрын

I’m really glad I watched this. I didn’t play any betas. I played roughly 10 games. The shoot feels awful. The net code(hit detection) feels awful. Makes sense

@ChrisFromFloriduh Ай бұрын

Yall must be new to Ubisoft. Their netcode and servers have always been awful. Been playing For Honor for 7 years.

@sheeki8688 Ай бұрын

My issues with the game were hit reg, my abilities not working when i pressed the button for some reason, and the netcode. Outside of that, I got no lag, the maps are as beautiful as before (very good to look at eye candy), and the gamemodes were a nice change of pace. Im worried though because imo it will need some more time before releasing which might turn off a lot more players inlcuding myself

@ImLucky7en Ай бұрын

Do we know if a hardcore mode is planned?

@skull-strike-g692 Ай бұрын

I loved the play test. Most fun I had in a long time. I’m not afraid of the player base not being sustainable and I feel like a lot of people feel the same way. Especially with Input Based Matchmaking. MnK players finally don’t have to face aim assist.

@daree1996 Ай бұрын

Most of the game mechanics that Ace talk about, are not bugs. It's Part of Rainbow 6 games physics. If you play siege you might be a bit better at XDefiant because they have the same or similar mechanics and game physics.

@P4brotagonist Ай бұрын

That recenter thing I actually LOVE. When guns have a shitload of recoil, when games recenter, you are suddenly aiming 45 degrees at the ground.

@TheXclusiveAce Ай бұрын

Proper implementation of recenter should never overcorrect below the origin point from when you started firing.

@P4brotagonist Ай бұрын

@TheXclusiveAce I agree with this actually. I'm curious, does it not do this on controller anymore in CoD? It definitely still does with KB+M. The NZ-41 in Vanguard was notoriously bad with a mouse because when you controlled the recoil, after finishing firing your aim would jerk nearly straight down into the dirt.

@TheXclusiveAce Ай бұрын

It does normally but it’s possible some guns/situations bug out at times. The sidewinder did something strange with recenter for a while as well but I think that was more due to center speed being too slow so you’d manually overcompensate rather than the recenter being the thing that overcompensates for you

@LukeFromYT Ай бұрын

Will this game run on my pc? It is a 1650 gtx AMD Ryzen 3 4100

@enesbilgili8647 Ай бұрын

hello ice i know its not video related but how can i turn off notifications in game like air strike coming enemy deploying bla bla. These things literally blind me in the game

@thesoulshreddah Ай бұрын

honestly the game felt completely fine to me. I play different fps games and don't really change my settings too much though. But generally felt good. the only thing I will say is that whenever I jump on something there is a slight delay but maybe they just have to smooth out the animation. Also I will agree that sometimes it feels like I'm gone in like 2 shots while the other person takes many shots. Overall though I enjoyed it. Excited for the release.

@Dopamine666 Ай бұрын

spoken like a true fanboy

@Incognigro. Ай бұрын

Why criticism is good, (let me first note that what I’m about to say doesn’t apply to Ace) the cod community is so annoying with critiques. They bash, judge, and criticize every game before they really even get a good look/feel or before even playing the game. Yet when it comes to Cod they accept bs after bs, making excuses for the publishers and the creators. It’s as if every other game just somehow gets everything wrong but cod is just the God of games. Anyway; rant over, I haven’t played the beta yet (even though it ends today) but I’m still hype (for lack of a better word) for this game. I haven’t purchased cod since 2019 and fast paced FPS games have really *SUCKED* the past few years. The game has some work to do, but I enjoy the core fundamental idea of the game so it’ll hopefully finally be a game to get me back into FPS (as I’d argue that’s my all time favorite genre). I know no one asked for my opinion but I gave it anyway 🤷‍♂️

@cwp24 Ай бұрын

I agree with you on what you said about the cod community. At this point I just don’t care any longer about multiplayer FPS games. I made Cod2022 my final cod game. I will not come back to cod as I just do not enjoy that type of experience anymore. I’ve grown out of it and I prefer to just stick to single player games and stay away from that abortion known as the cod community. There’s more to life and gaming than just cod. Go on a game exploration and find something new or different that’s not cod. Trust me, you’ll be a lot happier if you do that. That’s addressed to the people in the cod community that you mentioned who think that cod is the only good game.

@xxPhoenixX-sg9tr Ай бұрын

🤣🤣

@Incognigro. Ай бұрын

@@cwp24 It’s 10:23pm on a Sunday.. [this is gonna be another long one so, grab some popcorn] Coming back and reading this comment at such a perfect moment; the past few years has truly been me trying to rediscover gaming. Cod just isn’t cod anymore, *I can’t tell you how old I feel saying that and I’m only twenty-…!!!!!* But seriously, I hop on Warzone with friends, now and then, and I can get right back into it. Sure, crank up that SBMM, there’s a reason I was put in these type of lobbies in 2019 (don’t think I can’t point and shoot too now). But the game is just so…. not a game if that makes *ANY* sense. Obviously we all wanna be the best. But back then, it was also the *game* and its elements; the way things worked within that space. Now it feels like it’s just ‘strip away all the gameplay elements; “I just want to do whatever it takes, copy whatever streamer in order to be the ‘best’”… for what reason? There’s no joy in that, at least not anymore. So yea, I’ve noticed I’ve been more into story games recently. It’s just that KZfaq shorts, Instagram reels, even music now (which is annoying because that’s what I do for a living) are all focused on quick attention grabbers and gimmicks. We have no attention span anymore, which makes story games a little more difficult. Ashamed to say but I’ve been playing RDR2 for SIX years now and I’m only like 48% of the way. I’m too much of a perfectionist, a procrastinator, and a serious, *chronic* overthinker. Anyway, enough of sharing far too much information about myself; through a fairly anonymous user account, to a bunch of strangers who could not possibly care less. Thank you for this comment, I really appreciated it. Edit: as I post this… it’s now 10:53pm. Yea… I sat here for that long, I had time, you see what day it is people, what else am I supposed to do it’s *my* downtime 🤷‍♂️ P.s. Took out my age because I gotta keep some secrecy 🤫. Can you tell how old I am by how childish I sound, because I can’t.

@lorahester7 Ай бұрын

💯 my dude

@jaydale1 Ай бұрын

I loved the game despite my ineptitude when it was first in beta. For some reason it just wasn't as fun this time around. I only play PC and I was going up against players jumping and sliding like crazy and would kill me in 2-3 bullets while mine didn't ever seem to hit. I ended up only able to use one gun, the MP7, to even have a chance.

@davesturchcgi Ай бұрын

This was my main gripe with this game. The movement and feel even just moving around felt really weird. COD and even BF 2042 feel how I'd expect an fps game to feel.

@HaVoC2136 Ай бұрын

Been waiting for this video to come out. Everything you said I noticed and overall made me dislike the game. I didn’t get to play the original play test but have been looking forward to this and was pretty bummed. It especially sucked watching all the streamers just beaming anything that moved yet it literally felt like there was bloom on my guns. Even spent time in the shooting range trying to figure out wtf was happening. Net code is junk honestly.

@LU6TIE Ай бұрын

The first day felt really good for me, but the second day i was get weird input lag in terms of turning left and right and adsing, like im playing remote play or something.

@maserati4000 Ай бұрын

thank you for saying that. i knew it wasnt in my head that things felt so laggy/clunky

@nikitavanhoose405 Ай бұрын

I think I might have the answer for the tracers not lining up with every shot. I think this one was probably perposly put into the game, maybe they were trying to copy real life. Anyone who's been in the Military, like myself, 4 years in the U.S. Army, knows that when your using tracer rounds, not every single round in your magazine, or belt will be a tracer round. Usually it we'll be set up to where every 3rd to 5th round is a tracer, and everything in between is just normal rounds. The whole point of tracer rounds in the military, is for seeing your rounds during night fire, and it also helps when your firing larger weapons like light machine guns that have high recoil to help keep your fully automatic fire on target without needing to carefully aim at all times. Usually, the only time the military uses much tracer rounds is in training, and even then they don't use them much with smaller weapons like AR's. They will also use them on larger anti aircraft guns as well.

@opiatesmile 28 күн бұрын

What does it mean to "set a dead zone"?

@bscoggs Ай бұрын

Shooting was so difficult for more. Hard to get on target and hard to stay on target. Seemed like slight aim adjustments would completely take me off target. Adjusted ads settings and everything.

@BanksMadeGaming Ай бұрын

Pc MnK feels super off I can’t put my finger on it either but it’s super hard to track I’m always feeling like I’m tracking behind and can’t keep up with the movement but then when I tweak my sense that throws me off more it’s like I can’t find a good middle ground with ads sense or hip fire sense it’s just off and extremely frustrating.

@Meganarb Ай бұрын

I noticed this too, the mouse movement just feels real weird and off.

@teacherg28 Ай бұрын

Will hip-fire keep your aim centered?

@errdayvillain Ай бұрын

The suggestions and observations aren't nitpicking. This is because CoD development process has a decade of experience. This is basically what experience means. I guess we should cut some slack to CoD dev teams, cause albeit all the menu, lags, monetization issues and etc they can nail down these small details.

@marcmongillo8635 Ай бұрын

Feeling good about not being manipulated by a system to keep the bottom 10% of players

@James_08_07 Ай бұрын

Exactly this! It felt like the good old days to just hop on without worrying about how each game would impact the next. Freedom, ultimately.

@simonkammeyer4334 Ай бұрын

I missed almost the whole wondow. 1st day I thought it wasn't available, missed all of Friday. Then I finally realized that u have to download a separate version that you actually have to find. It's not right there and evident. So that sucked. Thankfully espresso had a video that showed exactly where to go. Saturday I played afew matches. But then proceeded to sleep all day. And I'm guessing it's gone today?

@TheFrankIcon Ай бұрын

Solid play test. Think people were expecting too much this early. Fun game, and i had no netcode issues in Texas. Maybe there are not enough data centers yet. Was pretty sweaty in my matches though. So im interested to see how the game is on launch. Thank you Ace for figuring out why the gunplay felt off ❤

@thedub007 Ай бұрын

This early? They've been running test sessions on this game for 3 years!

@TheFrankIcon Ай бұрын

@thedub007 this isn't Acitvision. Games take time to come out right. Especially something as complex as massive online arcade shooter netcode and hit reg

@flamingscar5263 Ай бұрын

@@TheFrankIcon I see what your trying to say, but its been 3 years of play test and the game is borderline the exact same as it was in 2021, yes games take more then 3 years to make, but XDefient over the past 3 years has stagnated, its not progressing like it should

@DmarcusBaus Ай бұрын

@TheFrankIcon Yeah no, after beta testing for 3 years with hardly ANY improvements, I'm done with the excuses, unless they fix the issues, XDefiant's dead on arrival.

@H3NRY121 Ай бұрын

Feeling the same way with some of these point...tho ive had a lot of fun with the game....if they somehow manage to iron out these bugs and make the game feel pleasant with the controlls...this could be an amazing game

@grim8050 Ай бұрын

Refreshing to see Ace seing similar issue because I have seen so many US content creators gasing the game and for me personally playing from EU the de-sync has been absolutely horrendous to a point that I could not bare my self to keep playing more than a few hours because I got tired of constantly dying while looking like I am behind cover only to get literally melted. There are so many aspects I love about this game and it has massive potential for being a enjoyable arcade shooter. BUT, if you are making a fast paced arcade shooter and having net code that doesn't really cut it won't make this game succesful IMO. I hope they see this in their data and managed to sort these parts out because if this doesn't get improved significantly for release I am not opting in.

@decoyfox Ай бұрын

I'm really quite impressed, a solid Ubisoft Pepsi to Activision's Coke, if you will

@TheReversedCOD Ай бұрын

yeah I´m completely with you, I actually played more MW3 this weekend than XDefiant, the controls just felt off compared to MW3 smooth mechanics.. really hope they can work things out here..

@James_08_07 Ай бұрын

All forgivable because there’s no SBMM for me.

@TheReversedCOD Ай бұрын

@@James_08_07 yeah well that’s no problem for me in MW3 😅

@flamingscar5263 Ай бұрын

With how terrible connections feel, I question wtf have they been doing? No new content shown, supposedly this ENTIRE TIME since the last server test has been dedicated to fixing net code and connections, but if you ask me it feels AT BEST the same but I'd argue worse then previous tests

@King-oEYoutube Ай бұрын

I played a lot with the Sniper and the first 1-2 Hours were Fun but after that it felt like someone pushed a Button and the Experience changed. You played the same way but now you would not hit a target (but u did) and that happened so often and with a Sniper it was game breaking. And when you did hit ,a sometimes a Certain spot was a one hit kill and sometimes you only dealt 80-90damage. And add what you said in your Video (dying fast and so on), the thing is this Phase stopped after 1-2hours and it went back ALMOST to normal. I also think that the first Aim assist option somehow is making your move like a tank, and the first and second option is limiting or stopping your movement all round like someone is constantly hitting the breaks and is stopping you... I did not have that feeling on the third aim assist option. They should also work a bit on on some of the special abilities, the fire ammunition never killed somebody for me, it made like extra 4-6 dmg when hitting a 90 Sniper shot. So it feels like that's useless. The healer mist is too powerful and with the problems u mentioned sometimes whatever u do u can't kill the, no chance. I played with a 20-35 ping and had these experiences (don't know if that is important).

@TooDavidson Ай бұрын

Aiming felt horrible to me this weekend. And it felt fine during the beta before.. hoping they smooth out some of these issues before the game releases.