Ok so about the meet & greet; if we host one in Karachi how many of you would want to attend? -- Hassan

One of the most haunting things was the absolute dismissive treatment of Misha’s claims simply because she’s not ‘pretty’ there used to be so many tweets putting Ali’s wife and Misha side by side and saying why would he harass someone who looked like this (misha) when he had such a beautiful wife. Just baffling.

I saw a video of Ali zafar claiming a victory on the basis that case has been dismissed. Obviously, he didn't mention the reason of dismisal. Instead he kept on preaching audience that case is dead now and the only thing alive is my defamation case against Meesha. Thank you for much needed clarification.

Love how empathetic Hasan is. There are not many men who show empathy when it comes to women's issues.

If she had filed her complaint to the wrong forum then they should have directed her to the correct forum, if any such forum exists in Pakistan..

Ali Zafar k susar Sb is a very senior and famous lawyer, who owns a big legal firm. Ayesha is his only daughter, and when she wants to continue her marriage with Ali Zafar then obviously Papa will do anything possible to save Damad Ji.

This very tricky situation was very professionally handled by you both. Very proud of you!

I still remember the interview Ali zafar did with Mubashir luqman with his wife and said meesha ka tau moo hi aisa nahn ki usse harrass kia jaye main ne katrina taapse aur pareeniti ko harrass nahn kia... irrespective of the fact that he harrassed or not he lost all respect for me and its just sad to know ki Meesha ka case hi nahn suna ja raha hai kahin.. makes me hopeless. Plus meesha ko kya fayda hua iss sab ka? she sacrificed herself just to be given no justice in the end... Ali zafar is like salman khan and sanjay dutt... crime karkay "being human" ban gaye... Allah bas reham karay

So thankful to you guys for approaching this topic so professionally without putting blame on anyone. Loved the whole conversation. This needed to be discussed as an unrelated society problem as well. Its just sad.

This system is just so pathetic and getting worse day by day. I don't know what to say because it's been 2 years that they haven't had a single proper hearing and we as an audience have had no information. Shame, such a shame!

These are two completely different cases - civil and criminal - which need not be linked to each other. As much as you been saying "technical aspects", these are exactly what as lawyers one look for. All laws are bound to have these loops which any counsel looks into. Now as much as it feels unfair Meesha did not have a fair hearing by Provincial Ombudsman, the point is that it does not have jurisdiction to hear this case, verdict which the High Court also supported. Now the Supreme Court is called to decide on whether it has jurisdiction or not. Social media trial is not even logical because most people are reacting on emotions or loyalty to the public figures. You may not have referred to anyone, but you have made out of the woman in this context is that of a poor, miserable person. Which she is not, mainly because she is not stopping her fight. Media trial is all about emotional push and who manages to gather more sympathy or who is more likely to convince majority. This is not how the justice system should work. Ever. The actual case. Which you have referred to at several instances, as someone who does deal with cases daily, I assure you technical issues are damn important. Something extreme as example to put my point forward, we can argue that a complaint of say a burglary can be said to be time barred because it is beyond a certain time. That does not mean that the story does not hold but the law needs some boundaries. Imagine after twenty years, someone pops up and say X robbed my ancestral house, which they may have but after twenty years no. Yet again, I understand the enthousiasme and interest in this case. However, the question which was rightly asked, what is the right route for women to take? Who do we approach if we want to report a sexual harassment at the workplace? Does the law about sexual harassment at the workplace need amendments to make it more accessible and broader than what it is at the moment?

I love the way amna said now we are married with turkey 🇹🇷 😬 and pls give us dual nationality as we are in relation with all turkeys 😬😬

I’ve never been this early on a video. Love having haute bites to drink my morning coffee with. Hassan and Amna you have become people I feel have become friends away from home.

u guys never fail to impress me, v rightly pointed out all the facts and given correct response and measures that needs to be taken, talkin bout meesha shafi and ali zafar's case, i believe victim blaming reached its peak, they ask for EVIDENCE, wht evidence do u want for sexual abuse? no measures taken by the government and judicial system as well as such negative response from the public, it just disapointing and miserable

I always wonder why do we conveniently believe that women are the victims and men are the perpetrators? It's not a debate between men and women. It's a debate between a victim and a perpetrator. Anyone can be a victim, be it a man or a woman. Having said that, unfortunately, the law in Pakistan is not good enough for the victims/perpetrators to prove anything.

clearly Meshaa's lawyers are not compitent enough. They don't know where to file the case.

Btw I saw Feroze Khan start a instagram page. for women where they can complain.

Please do Haute Gold on either Daam or Jackson Heights

I really appreciate your courage to discuss such a sensitive topic... handled very sensibly... I am a great Ali zafar fans but I am a big feminist too.. I want justice for the victim whoever is

Love the way you handled this topic, beautiful clarification otherwise many tweets that i saw claimed that Meesha is accused as court dismissed the case. Great to see all this clarification and so sad to know that there is no forum in Pakistan where women can go compalin.

haute gold for diyar e dil please.

This could be a podcast on Apple..

Hassan you repeat the same thing again n again n again. It becomes so exasperatingly repetitive! Most of your audience is reasonably intelligent. Plz make your point ‘n move on!

Wah yar. Koi b topic ho. Your are decent and best people when talk. Lots of love for smart hasan and cute amna. :)

Thanks for clarifying this issue. I was always thinking what's actually happened

I remember I spend all day studying anatomy and watching these videos as a break, so I saw hassan and amna in my dream discussing anatomy 😂😂😂

I love the way u guys discuss things. Very sensible and lively 💕

Hey guys. Love how professional you guys are and remained neutral when talking about this case. On another note, please review an old drama "Kankar". Its a great drama that portrays how a woman should deal with spousal physical abuse.

I'm watching u guys so much now...that I am literally seeing Amna in my dreams....😅

MashAllah great episode with good content. The last three videos with interviews made me realize that both of you try very hard to bring your audience close to their favorite actors and all the interviews were professional and entertaining. (to Aamna only, the red blouse /top in one of your recent interviews MashAllah looked amazing on you. Love how you wear colors...🥰)

Haute gold on Jackson heights. It's so well made but so underrated. One of the best dramas to have come out of Pakistan

You guys always given me new perspective to see the things regarding our dramas or social issues. I just loved your discussions. keep it up👍. Also I would love to come to your meet & great section but unfortunately boarders our shut due to covid.but inshallah whenever I will visit my Mom in Pakistan (Karachi) I will try my best to contact with you guys.#loveyourshow💕.Amna your dress colour suits you to much.

This is sad reality where will a women go in such a situation for justice and even I'm divided in this case but u guys explained it so well , well done HaAmna😂❤️ and this defamation has taken away from the real case of harrasment hope everything gets cleared soon . PS : okay we will discuss about last review concerns in next episode fine done hogaya👍hassan and Aamna ship name HaAmna😂

Today’s topic is very serious and sensitive. I do not expect any outcome of this case. We will never know who was guilty and who was innocent. Might is right in our country. Turkish actors are taking full advantage of their popularity in Pakistan and making money. 😊 On a lighter note I want to talk about the trend of heavy, deep meaning dialogues written by some writers. They not only look unreal but get indigestible at times, like, in drama Mushq," ujla , chamakta, geira, sufaad jhoot". As Amma of Amma and TV, rightly put "ye jhoot hai ya washing powder ka add".🤣🤣🤣 It seems Imran Ashraf at times, goes over board trying to impress viewers with his command on the language. Using too many adjectives does not add to a writing . In fact it makes it confusing. Someone shared a dialogue from Zebaish, “aap garam phulka kha le warna phulka meray se shikayat karay ga ke mehmaan ko thanda khila dia”. 🤣🤣🤣What is this. Can someone please explain the philosophy behind this dialogue.

This case only goes to show that social media or any online platforms are not the places to handle such allegations. It can only work in countries where the legal system can then properly handle the cases in real world organisations/institutions. Social media trials are useless and just another form of anarchy.

Aamna : aankhein chunni si karke halka sa pout dete hain. Bade cute lagte hain🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣highlight of the episode... India aane ka iraada hai aap logon ka?😥mujhse to meet and greet nahin dekha jaayega....#major_left_out_feels🤣🤣🤣chalo humein duyaon mein yaad rakhna...

Very important issue raised in a very decent manner. Great effort done by both of you and your team 👏👏👏

When is the haute gold poll coming?

Thanks for bringing up Ertugrul’s cast in every other ad. There was an ad of Joshanda where one actor apparently covid survivor and saying “I had lots of time so I watched Ertugrul... “ which I found a little too much of Ertugrul. I would be happier if he would have said “ I watched PTV classics “ ...

Amna your blue dress is beautiful beautiful loved it 💙

The dangerous side of this new issue is that the powerful people of Pakistan are now trying to silence anyone who tries to support the victims of sexual harassment. Why are innocent people like Ali Gul Pir and Humna Raza targeted ? Just for speaking up against a harasser. As you guys rightly said, the real harassment case has to be solved. Thanks for such a eye-awakening discussion.

Please do Haute Gold on Yakeen Ka Safar and Meri Zaara Zarra-e-Benishan!! I live in America, but I really want to meet you both!! 😢

kudos guys u touched this matter and handled it well, in this case i choose to support meesha shafi period

Now this is a solid break down of facts kudos to you both 👍👍I have one question is there no women's commission or any similar body but as Aamna said whatever there is this environment is misogynist and patriarchal anyway it's sad .

BTW WHEN ARE YOU GUYS ANNOUNCING DRAMA NAME FOR HAUTE GOLD!!!!🧐😠🥰itna wait to mt karae

Well done to both of you for making such a boring topic so interesting. And wow i was amazed at all of these disclaimers and a very sensible and careful yet very clear discussion. I always say this and will again say Hasan works very hard on these reviews and is does full justice to his job. I am so impressed on his homework..👏👏👏

Thank you Hassan that was a very methodical and clear explanation of the Ali Meesha conflict. You are absolutely right all the dismissals have been on the technical ground that it was not work place harassment hence courts will not hear the case. No body said Ali Zafar is innocent. You hit the nail on the head by raising the question that a woman who has been harassed has no legal recourse and place to go. Honestly speaking Meesha is very brave and crazy to take up a fight which is so hard to win. And that too with the likes of Ali Zafar who is so well connected and with mass popularity. Meesha probably also did it because her Canadian immigration had come through and she knew she had a safety net. As Amna rightly pointed out other prudent women in the industry have just kept quite about the harassment they have faced because they know what an uphill and excruciating battle this is. It is clear that Ali is guilty as charged. How big a crime that is, is open for interpretation.

Haven't watched complete video yet. But loved the intro , 😂😂😍

ہم پاکستانی کسی بھی foreign content, personality , product کو اسی طرح بہت کھلے دل سے welcome کرتے ہیں ۔ ہم لوگ ever react کرنے والے لوگ ہیں ۔ ترکی ہو یا ہندوستان ہم نے انتہائی ندیدے پن کا مظاہرہ کیا ہے ۔

Amna is looking so fresh in this beautiful colour😍😍😍

Which 12 new dramas are comimg? Of anyone of you have the link something haute shared on their website. Please share it here.

ALLAH HUM SBKO APNI EMAAN MA RAKHA REALLY FEEL SAD FOR those who loss their lives because of Corona virus

If we follow Islamic teachings, no harassment will ever occur ✓ hijab and modest clothing for women ✓ no Co education ✓ no male female mix gatherings ✓ mehram/namehram concept

Yaar ab ye ertugrul honestly bohat zyaada nahin ho raha....theek hai achha show hai....appreciate, learn and move on....craze is turning into foolish obsession...i mean bas ho gaya...ab to har sentence mein ertugrul ertugrul....it has become a mockfest now....

Aj to eid ho gaiii❤❤ abhi amna ka interview hi dekh ri thi aur ye bhi a gai video😍😍😍

The jam session that Amna is talking about which Meesha said happened at Ali’s home, Ali released the complete video of that entire jam session. Its still on his Instagram!

Please hassan amna your review is excellent please do haute gold of yks please i am waiting for yks haute gold

Harrasement should be punished but then if the allegations are wrong then the accuser should also be punished. Aise to phir kisi pe koi bhi ilzaam laga day aur tamasha daykhe. Just because she is a women doesnt mean she is right.

Good to see u both loved your segments enjoying Haute Bites keep it up guys👍🏻🌼

Waiting for THIS Thankyou !!

Amna gokche and selchan (ali zeeshan and maria B ki models) both of them also have main and important lead roles just like ertugrul and halime.

Have you both watched mera naam yousuf hai?

Thank you so much for highlighting this issue, we seriously need a forum in which women can go and file the harrasment claims and be taken seriously, istg its too much, i literally have no faith in the justice system of this country anymore.

bayya g mai to boht wait ker rhi hoon, haute gold 3 ka. kab or kon say dramay ko ye aizaz mil rha hay i m waiting...

Thank you for doing this video so sensitively. BUT Meesha has not disclosed what actually happened?

Do you guys have any guidelines for workplace harrassment? In India we have Vishakha guidelines for workplace harrassment under which there should be a complaints committee at all workplaces,headed by a woman employee and atleast half of its members being women.

My question is that....what will be coming tomorrow ?? ....my evening's are incomplete without you guys. Amna your back to back interviews were a treat to watch. I think you are the best interviewer in Pakistan.!👍💖

Finally for the first time some talk show talking about case merits and technicality without any biased ness. The provincial ombudsman rejected the case on the merits of employers and employees situation as the 2010 sexual harassment act doesn't include this merit. So it was technically not taken in account not that Meesha lost as Ali Zafar claims. And I can prove my claim If you watch Ahsan khan show where Ali continuously said he "won" the case. Which is a false claim and can also be taken in court like he keeps pushing Meesha for defamation cases. I think Amna it wasn't the workplace issue it was rejected on the basis of employer employe situation.

I can't tell and always try to figure out if this is a restaurant or a set? Cz its so empty and and pin drop silence. A very classic place tho. But please note that your voices are very low in this!

Something Haute is on fire these days Vids par Vids😍😍😍😍😍

Thank you for explaining the case completely. .totally agreed that we don't know who is right or wrong..but I wish Ali zafar come out right and true..otherwise my heart gonna crash

Given our social context, we kind of think that since women in the media industry have such a different life style in terms of socialization with men that they should not be complaining. However, the question is that of consent. Meesha may let one friend kiss/hug her but not let another do the same. The fact that meesha hugged one male does not mean that all other men are allowed to touch her. Maybe Meesha is not telling the truth but the fact that she wears scanty clothes should not make her allegation any weaker.

I disagree that where would a woman go. There is law and courts deal in sexual harrasment at workplaces but therefore ubdoubtedly there is a huge loophole in law on cases like this where a workplace is not involved and it is a shame and authorities should provide a concrete forum

the absence of a platform to launch a complaint itself is such a shame!!! the system has failed us, it just isn’t made for us women. the tricky situation was very sensibly handled by you two, though! kudos :)

I learn new words in Urdu all the time watching you guys... improving my Urdu along with hearing what happens in Pak with something like this. I also don’t see this being resolved. I think whoever will have a lot of money, will probably win the case.

Amna and Hassan are absolutely right. The society itself is misogynist, so the women are helpless. Aman and Hassan, l salute you two for raising the most needful and the most sensitive topic.

Ali zafar ne ek interview mein kahan tha ke woh case jeet gaya hai....have you guys watched that interview?

Very well done guys! What a conversation! ❤❤❤❤

Aaminah is right , every women of our society have been subjected to harassment one way or the other

The initial person Meesha spoke to is very important. What did she disclose? What were the circumstances?

Once again, you guys rocked. Wonderful job! I’m now really thinking about what the right forum is to file a sexual harassment complaint.

Uss girl ko bolne ka moka bhi nhi diya but the boy didn't even let her file case .pakistan is highly messed up a highly non feminist country. India main bohot bura hota hai lekin people try to support and do amendment but pakistan main toh bolne hi nhi dete

We Are With Ali Zafar ♥

In workplaces, there is HR to deal with such matters but I am thinking who would an actor report to? In our country, there are no agencies representing the actors also.. But this is 100 % true that it's very hard for women to get justice in cases of harrassment and it's very difficult to prove as well as the guy can just say it didn't happen 😡

Hassan im proud of the fact that i once said you are a true feminist...The way you handled the topic is 👏 👏

Great effort Haute team to bring the issue in front of us. Let the victim get justice, would like to hear the result soon.👍😍

Idk I still don’t believe meesha shafi lied. I hated the bashing that she faced... Ali zafar should have every right to defend himself but shaming Meesha Shafi like that was just shameful.

Hassan and amna, Why you haven't made videos on Drugs probe in India as it's Celeb related

The only thing to note here is that people in our country are so unaware of all legal places that one can approach because no one talks about it. if an artist like meesha shafi does not know where to take her case than how can a common man/woman who is not privileged enough will know who to approach and what to do? News channels should educate people about all of these legal official places that one can go to for there problems.

Okay... now this is off topic. Is it just me or do Hassan and also Emmad Irfani have really attractive and beautiful hands (as they're men i expect very less from men to have so clean and beautiful hands!!) I know, i know rare comment, haha 😂

U r absolutely right..... U discuss the right points

Sensitive issue but really proud of u both of always great effort with sensibility 👍

Aap log bht responsibility say her mamley or issue ko deal kertey ho hatsoff 💓🌹👍

It's nearly impossible to prove that one has been harassed or one has not harassed someone that is why the religion has commanded men and women to maintain a safe distance in between

I feel the worst for Ali Zafar's wife because she really has NO clue whether it happened or not. There has to be a lot of tension in that relationship.

Not every woman is right all the time... Defemation exists

سچ بولوں ترکی کے ایکٹرز چائنہ کے سامان جیسے نکلے انسان لیتا تو شوق سے ہے پر ایک دم اس چیز سے دل بھر سا جاتا ہے پھر اس میں نقس بھی نظر آنے لگ جاتے ہیں وہ ہی حال ترکی کے ایکٹرز کا ہے قسم سے اب دل بھر سا گیا ہے دل نہیں کرتا ان کو دیکھنے کا

If meesha was so innocent then why didn't she attend the court proceedings? Meesha just wanted the #metoo attention but that backfired on her and lets not forget Ali was suppose to be a judge on pepsi battle of the bands and obviously meesha couldn't take it. A lot of people wanted to see Ali going down, there were so many fake accounts accusing Ali and that came up as people lying about the whole thing.

You guys handled it so professionally.. very well done ...nd Me'am u look fresh nd smart😘😘😘 or vocabulary behtr krane k lye b bht bht shukria...💃 Hasan bhai tu hei smart un ki kya tarif kre😉😉

Amna wants to focus on cyber-crime and defamation instead of sexual harassment. Clear bias in Ali's favour.