>(snip) questions remain unanswered about the purpose of these abilities What do you mean? It says the purpose right under the shield names. From left-to-right, top-to-bottom: Flame: (Just an) attack. Fire: You can walk on fire. Immune to fire-based attacks. Bubble: You don't have to take a breath. Water: Your movement underwater is fast. Wheel: You accelerate quickly. Mirror: You reflect bullets. Magnet: You stick to metal. Thunder: Eliminates all enemies. Requires time to electrically recharge. Enemy: They fly themselves towards enemies. (This probably became Hyper Tail's ability) Block: Guards against as many attacks as there are blocks. Heavy: Your feet get slower. Wing: Your jumping power gets stronger. Edit: Fixed a mistranslation

It's funny how the idea of throwing rings never truly went away, it just changed form. - Super Mecha Sonic can attack by fire rings in all directions. - Tails' Skypatrol has Tails attack with a Boomering that returns to him after being tossed. - Sonic Xtreme was going to have Amy attack by throwing rings. - Sonic Battle has Sonic throw a ring to set up his ground power attack, Sonic Drive. - Tails can toss Dummy Rings in Sonic Heroes if he's ran out of partners to toss and in 06. - On that note, Sonic X has Tails and other characters toss Sonic power rings to power up his spin attack.

This would explain why Super Mecha Sonic has a ring shooting attack

Using rings... To collect rings? Sick!

Fun fact: while the ring throw didn't make it to sonic's final game moveset, a buffed version of this ability was re-used to dodge instead of use as it became the attack super mecha sonic MK.2 always uses right before before going back to base form for a couple of seconds

Well Sonic did say that he's King of the Ring!

Here's a fun fact, the rock shield seen in the concept drawings was repurposed in the fan game Sonic Time Twisted.

The air dash reminds of the homing attack and the lightspeed dash from Sonic Adventure which I think that scrapped ability could have inspire both the homing attack & lightspeed dash.

2:23 Sonic 3: Fighter Sonic (GBA)

The first ability was definitely reused for Hyper Sonic

what an amazing thing silver sonic, How sad that we may never know the true purpose of the ring-throwing movement or why it was discarded/what it was planned for in the first place, excellent video! ❤

The thrown ring mechanic seems like fun. It's sad it never got finished.

Classic Sonic not having such a little amount of moves and probably developing even more in mania would be the good future 😢

It's neat how the Air Dash move went on to become the Homing Attack in Sonic Adventure.

Idk why but Seeing the Camera freak out after doing an airdash in the proto is goofy, also like the new video formatting, keep it up

Damn the ring trow ability is sure interesting Hopefully somebody fixes collision and makes a rom hack built with it in mind

The 4 way airdash move was probably put in for debugging or testing purposes. It was one way of testing what would become the main shield abilities. They might have been kicking themselves that they didn't add the 4 way dash for Super Sonic. Since the code is practically identical in the final game, the airdash code is not responsible for the spazztastic camera (that code would have been elsewhere).

Actually glitch #1 is the first dash ability ever, which came back in modern sonic games.

With this new video formatting, you honestly remind me more and more about NomadColossus, and for me it is honestly a big plus! Keep it up!

classic sonic homing attack confirmed

The metal sonic fight as knuckles uses the ring throw ability. Never would've guessed that's what it's from.

“Oh, yeah, it's all comin' together.”

What if the ring-throwing move could've been used to summon the special stage ring in certain areas of the stage, similar to how the rings work in the Sonic movies.

The Drop Dash was originally going to be in Sonic 3 also and their is footage but was canceled and used in Sonic Mania Edit: It wasn’t a move yet it was a bug

KZfaq has trained me to believe this was going to be an analog horror video Informative and neat!

I'd like to see these unused shield types return in a mod. Some of them even appear to use those orbital enemies' heads!

So the orginal idea was that while Sonic was in the air, you could press a button to do 3 different things depending on which button you press. A:Preform an air dash B:Shoot a ring forward C:Shoot a ring both left and right That would have been a bit too overpowered. And made the game too easy.

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Kinda interesting to see the Sonic 2 Sonic sprite with Sonic 3's palette.

wait, games were written in assembly? oh my god, i can imagine the amount of work coding, debuging and refactoring game's code

I remember them talking bout the ability to throw rings… how interesting

Really cool video!!! I love seeing your insight into the code!!!

The Ring Throw ability is cool and could have been used as a special move. Maybe subtract 5 rings per throw.

The air dash honestly reminds me of Sonic Robo blast 2 and it's (I forgot what it was called but it's like the homing attack but without the lock-on)

The air dash looks similar to the Gold Shield from Sonic 3D (at least from my perspective). Also, I prefer the prototype version of Angel Island Zone Act 1. You can see how one changed instrument can lead to a whole different opinion on the music.

That ring throw reminds me of a similar move from STI's cancelled Sonic-16 (the SatAM game). Heck, maybe Super Mecha Sonic's ring attack was a callback to this scrapped move.

never actually seen anyone cover something like this in my experience, glad it got reccomended to me!

Ring Throw was later reused on Super Mecha Sonic Boss for Knuckles.

So the sonic 3 team predicted the air dash in sonic’s base moveset AND the dropdash? Watch the ring throwing ability be added as an attack in the next mainline game or something.

Maybe the thrown ring was going to be a tails thing before scrapping it. Someone should make a puzzle hack where you throw rings to activate switches and maybe even a custom boss that takes advantage of the throwable rings.

It's also possible that Super Sonic was intended to have Hypers dash, Super Sonics sparkle object has unused code to spawn a similar object to Hypers dash sparks. Though, only time will tell what it was really for

Man I love his old abilities

Datel Action Replay was good for making your own codes for stuff like this

Did those balloons even have collision? Also I like the lil bit of recoil they gave the yeet

The goat is back

most people never really seem to cotton onto the fact that mecha sonic's abilities in both his normal and super fights are not at all random the attack where he dashes forward before landing is, yknow, the air dash/fire shield attack where he jumps and bounces represents the bubble shield where he jumps and slides across the floor represents the drop dash'nt from this prototype and where he shoots rings out is, well, obvious with this video

Throwing rings remind me about the cancelled sonic Satam game.

Does make me wonder, with how many shields that were "things that rotate around sonic", do you think the ring toss was supposed to be a function for one of these shields, and the ring sprite is just a place holder for something else? From the image there's fireballs, bombs, vynles, and black spheres, maybe the disks or spheres were supposed to have this function?

That first one looks like an early state of that hyper boom that hyper does

Woah. They better implement this into AIR

(this is a stretch) but perhaps the ring could have been a placeholder for an ability where sonic could have thrown tails(?) It could have also served as inspiration for the partner mechanics for knuckles chaotics

probably the ring atack cast 1 ring for make this atack this is an interessiting ability sorry for my bad english -_- the first atack of distance of sonic history and what i remember unique move a distance probably will have one mod of sonic 3 what put this ability

An air dash, kind of like homing attack without homing

Oh hey, I was sub #8,000. Good job on the video!

Makes me how many other abilities were unused that are out there

Man some of these were so cool, the ring shooting! Why cant they make 2D games with crazy things like that? I was just looking at YT and 1 of your videos came up and I thought hey I remember Silver Sonic! Hadnt seen you post in forever, dumb YT algorithm. Curious what you thought of Sonic Superstars, in relation to the classic 2D sonic games and Mania? It's kind of a shame in a way that nowadays, games are so protected legally before their release, that you'd probably never just be able to access beta files to a game like Superstars. Although you could argue that because many games are released unfinished and loaded with patches that we infact PAY FOR the beta edition up front, instead up buying the final game. And as theyre updated, we go through the different stages of beta progression with a current game, vs finding them decades later. Interesting take right?

These abilities would've been really cool

I’ll be honest, I find it strange that Sonic would have a double jump without being with that electric shield

I wonder if the SRB2 devs knew about this when designing the Ringslinger game mode?

I realize now regular sonic double jump dash is an early version of the homing attack from adventure I need music credits its killing me!

That first one is just hyper sonic

the drop dash

The airdash could also be an early code for the lightning shield double-jump

Oh the sonic fan hack community will have a field day with the ring throwing power up

Any ideas what was padded out with those NOPs? I find it odd that they'd do that. Usually it's only done if you're hex editing out something to make sure you don't cause an exception.

I didn't even know that Classic Sonic would originally have the Homing Attack. In Sonic Generations he couldn't do the Homing Attack, could it be that they are Classic Sonics from different dimensions? 🤔

Nice!

I’m digging the ring throw🎉

I saw a video comparing the ring-throwing ability to the move Mecha Sonic does when you fight him as Knuckles. It may have been repurposed for Mecha Sonic to use it in that fight?

The 4 way dash isnt really unused, they gave it to Hyper Sonic

Is there a possible way to fight Big Arms in this prototype?

Bro how do you manage to understand assembly code i've been programming for years but this seems really tough, but i'm motivated to get better at it for reverse engineering though

Where does the sheet with all of the ideas for shields come from? Was it put out in a tweet on twitter or something? 4:08

How would the using the same subroutine as Sonic and Tails cause rings to act differently? Is it because rings have different hitboxes?

I read somewhere before that this prototype was mostly used to develop 2p games. Is it true, or an interesting theory?

I finally got to play it but the sound really stutters. I’ve tried Google and safari but nope. I did get it to work once but idk how. (Yes I’ve changed sound both in the game and on my iPhone)

Can you do Sonic 3 Leftovers (includes zones) that is in Sonic and Knuckles (Alone) (Sonic and knuckles without being locked on to Sonic 3)???

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So that how fanhacks made the homing attack in the classic games

I'm wondering if they might have given SUPER sonic that dash ability, had hyper sonic not been a thing. Also, didn't tails attack with rings in another game?

Sonic 3 has to be the best game ever. Nothing against Symphony of the Night. If shit wasn't rushed, imagine how awesome the game would of been!!! Sonic 3 on Sega, found a secret emerald stage, you beat it, you get a invisible emerald. Put in the sound test code (good luck) go to sound test on the stage select menu, play/change the tracks quickly then quickly select special stage 2 hold a hit start... If this works for you, thank me later and good luck beating that special stage!!!

Well i know for a fact someones gonna make a sonic 3 air mod with these abilities

early ver of the homing attack

oh man. Was that assembly code?

None of the stuff was removed its still in the game you just need a game genie to find it and enable it

Wasn't there also a prototype "Drop Dash" move that was in the prototype but not in the final game? I seem to recall something like that.

So both the "homing" and drop dash exist back then.

aint the air dash one came in one of the sonic advance games?

A ring collecting rings🤔

0:47 lol spaz camera 😅

What is the name of the music whenever there isn’t gameplay being shown?

hold on what about the drop dash thing? or was it a different prototype?

0:45 wooow.

The ring move reminds me of tails in sonic 06

Sem contar q o drop dash também apareceu nesse protótipo

where did u get the sonic pic from on thunbnail

Where did the thumbnail art come from?

Yall forgot the drop dash I know I know Cristian whitehead got inspired by this ability

not gonna lie, I always prefered the Sonic 2 sprite over the Sonic 3 one

Let's talk hanging from tails animation