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Sonic CD's LOST Level - The Mystery Of R2 | HiddenBlocks - Tallest Flash (Relic Ruins Zone Unused and Lost Content)
Sonic CD HiddenBlocks on R2 (Relic Ruins)! Hey everybody and welcome back to a series where we play out the entirety of a game and see a bit of the cool cut, lost, and unused content that can be found along the way. This episode, we're gonna be playing Sonic CD for the Sega CD and looking at cool cut content and lost and unused secrets from the cut zone R2, or Relic Ruins Zone!
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@DarkVampireDee 6 жыл бұрын

I'm going to give my two cent here. First of all, the name Relic Ruin wasn't a official name, fans has named it and been calling it for years. Second, some has say that the levels has bits of graphics other zones, the wacky workbench past secret room, the background of stardust speedway past, all revolving around the Greek ruin theme like Marble zone. The D.A. Garden music (the JP version), some say that it might have been for R2 music, possibly for a Past or Good Future as it sounded more peaceful. Hope this clears up

@tallestflash 6 жыл бұрын

Interesting, never heard of the Wacky Workbench room, and I know Relic Ruins is unofficial lol, I even said that in the video

@Scroteydada 6 жыл бұрын

Isn't Quartz Quadrant basically Marble zone? It has Caterkillers, the moving surface was re used in mania's lava reef which also takes ideas from marble, the boss tries to drop things on you idk

@SantiagoMonroy5 6 жыл бұрын

D. A garden uses cd audio, the past songs uses FM Audio

@TheGavtel 6 жыл бұрын

I'd guess the D.A. Garden's JP theme was the Present version, rather than the Past or Good Future version due to 1:33 into it sounding like it would probably be used in a Bad Future theme.

@BouncekDeLemos 6 жыл бұрын

It was PCM iicr, the FM was used for sound effects. Past songs definitely don't use any DA sound.

@TheMasonGamer 6 жыл бұрын

Those songs were confirmed by the creator to be fan-made remixes of Alex Lee - Take it. Mystery solved

@jalex777 6 жыл бұрын

yep

@RaCUtricolor 5 жыл бұрын

As far as I'm aware, not even fan made, they're just pre-existing Versions and Remixes of the song.

@matthewlloyd365 3 жыл бұрын

It's true, there is a video of someone unlocking r2 and the music is played in the background

@TheMasonGamer 3 жыл бұрын

This guy thinks he's a comedian

@Mr.F2005 3 жыл бұрын

@@matthewlloyd365 you know the "mods" exist, right?

@necnix5313 6 жыл бұрын

Rainbow Ruins zone. That's what i think it was. First, it fits the level naming scheme: someone clearly had a thing for alliteration, and this fits into that perfectly. Plus, it fits better with the concept art, with the rainbows all over the place. However, we have no clue as to what the letters used would be. So it's probably wrong.

@GabePuratekuta 6 жыл бұрын

While it does kinda fit with the same naming trend as the official rounds, it could've easily been called something like Colorful Canyon or Troubled Temple

@boogiesarcade Жыл бұрын

I feel like the concept art would have been the good future

@guywhoexists6 7 ай бұрын

5 years later, we now know what the zones name was, dubious depths.

@Jenb13171 Ай бұрын

It’s dubious depths.good guess tho

@deicide7274 6 жыл бұрын

When you play sonic 3 to much till the point you call marble zone marble garden zone

@tallestflash 6 жыл бұрын

LMAO true

@angryboi595 4 жыл бұрын

Oof. I can relate

@almir-chan9570 2 жыл бұрын

Is it possible they're related in some way?

@MatthewScrap1011 2 жыл бұрын

@@almir-chan9570 Yes They have marble and they are annoying

@almir-chan9570 2 жыл бұрын

@@MatthewScrap1011 always use to think Marble Garden and Marble Zone where the same just a different part of the zone

@greenD7244 6 жыл бұрын

Actually, the desert enemies were for a zone Taxman wanted to add to the 2011 port of the game, named Desert Dazzle.

@mattedg8095 6 жыл бұрын

FYI, Sonic CD splits things differently. Firstly, Zones are called Rounds, hence R starting before the data name Secondly, Acts are called Zones, causing people to wonder why the word 'Act' isn't in the game and just assume it's used.

@ahmedalhamadi1282 6 жыл бұрын

Sounds like the sequel to sonic R

@sovietsoldier9501 6 жыл бұрын

Ahmed Alhamadi ?0

@_bioptic_5051 6 жыл бұрын

Sonic R2

@_bioptic_5051 6 жыл бұрын

(See what I did there)

@bradengaming9211 6 жыл бұрын

Ahmed Alhamadi ikoo

@Larry 6 жыл бұрын

I really like the name "Marble Gardens" they totally should have gone with that originally.

@tallestflash 6 жыл бұрын

Yeah that's why I instinctively say it at this point, always forget there's 2 "marble" zones

@ZiggyTheHamster 6 жыл бұрын

Whenever I run into you on KZfaq, I know I've stumbled upon some quality content.

@RodrigoBadin 6 жыл бұрын

Except Sonic CD uses a naming convention to use the same first Letter on both words.

@jeremyabbott4537 6 жыл бұрын

I think they should use that if they ever make a sequel to Sonic 2.

@kylesatwon1134 6 жыл бұрын

Marble Garden was a Zone in Sonic 3...

@Loader2K1 6 жыл бұрын

One quick correction: the "R" in the game's code stands for "Round." Also, one thing you forgot to mention is some of the unidentified parts of the Little Planet as seen on it in DA Garden mode.

@codinggamingfun4566 6 жыл бұрын

Loader2K1 what about DA CLUB

@Loader2K1 6 жыл бұрын

Huh?

@GabePuratekuta 6 жыл бұрын

Yeah. "Round" is what they called Zones and "Zones" are what they called Acts. Why do you think the message "Sonic/Tails made a good future in Zone 1/2/3 came up when he passed the signpost?

@maryoconnell8765 4 жыл бұрын

Round 2 zone act1

@cay7809 2 жыл бұрын

@@maryoconnell8765 R2Y1A

@Explosivebarrelsman 6 жыл бұрын

4:37 Past themes weren't CD quality. There's no way the theme is real, so the name is probably bogus too.

@badcatalex 6 жыл бұрын

Explosivebarrelsman they would be decompressed

@noobguy57 5 жыл бұрын

@@badcatalexdecompressed has nothing to do with it. They were made on the CD'S PCM chip.

@RaCUtricolor 5 жыл бұрын

It's fake, it's a version of Alex Lee's Take It. There's like 10 separate official versions though, and I can't rememeber which one this is. I believe this one is called the Kleptomaniacs Remix though.

@jameslozada3326 4 жыл бұрын

I Think you’re RIGHT. and Surprisingly WRONG at the Same Time! There are No CD Quality P Mixes of Zones but according to the New Prototype of Sonic CD that had been Just Discovered, Prototype 12/4/1992, There’s an Actual CD Quality P Mix for Palmtree Panic. Or in this Case “Salad Plains” This Proves the Fact that R2 has a CD Quality P Mix!

@gangweedstudios 4 жыл бұрын

salad plains

@nerples1149 6 жыл бұрын

I imagine that the sketch with the rainbow bg is of the good future version. The cut ending animation section of R2 has a bluish hue to the ground, while the sketch shows it as being brown. Other reasons for me thinking the sketch is a good future sketch is the rainbow

@jesterssketchbook 6 жыл бұрын

aw dang - i was hoping it was called Rainbow Relic Zone! damn, i have to photoshop this immeddiately lol

@GabePuratekuta 6 жыл бұрын

It was the ruined city in the OVA, right?

@tallestflash 4 жыл бұрын

Check out my latest episode of Hiddenblocks here :) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mdall7Zztd7Wqnk.html

@mattok101digitaltamer9 4 жыл бұрын

Wow, you still remember this vid? I forgot about you, bud.

@tallestflash 3 жыл бұрын

@@mattok101digitaltamer9 Late response but yes! I update this video's comment whenever I come back because it's still bringing lots of viewers to the channel xD (as in for yesterday's new video too!)

@Type3Diabeto 6 жыл бұрын

All of the sampled tracks are from various takes of Alex Lee's "Take It," despite how similar all but the past sound to Sonic CD

@tallestflash 6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, mentioned that right before I played it

@delatomvione9943 6 жыл бұрын

5:36 Sampled from Farley Jackmaster Funk - Love Can't Turn Around

@pepitopacquiao 6 жыл бұрын

that sample tracks were fanmade

@metaridleyakathecunninggod1006 6 жыл бұрын

+Francisco Sanchez Mercado Uh...what? They were all made by Alex Lee.

@RaCUtricolor 5 жыл бұрын

@@pepitopacquiao They're not fan made. They're not Sonic tracks at all. They are different versions of a song called Take It by Alex Lee. They're the Mighty Version, Marc Version, and Kleptomaniacs Remix I believe.

@AGwolf2097 6 жыл бұрын

R2 has been elusive for nearly the full 20 year history of sonic game research. Short of any of the original development staff directly coming forward and outlining any unused/cut content, I don't think we'll ever really learn anything more about it. Even in the earliest known prototype (510) doesn't even have anything, iirc. Beyond that one developer diary video that showed the rainbow waterfalls, and the handful of sprites that Taxman posted 4 or 5 years ago, there has literally been no other revelations about it. I've always figured it was cut pretty early.

@chillvibes375 6 жыл бұрын

AGwolf2097 it should come back for mania 2. It was real u see the opening intro with the cut banik coming from the ruin area. Taxman should tell sega to bring it back. Put rainbows and everything.

@soaringstars314 Жыл бұрын

We're learning more about it 👀

@Devis_EDM8 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video with a rare information about R2 zone from Sonic CD! Thank you!

@nameless646 Жыл бұрын

The overall impression that I got of "R2" is that its theme was similar to Marble Garden Zone in Sonic 3.

@RocketeerRaccoon 6 жыл бұрын

Wow, I've always wondered about that animated segment in Sonic CD with the badnik that isn't even in the game, thanks for clearing up this mystery for me. And I love that level's music, it really does sounds like 90s club music. :D

@YTChannelNat 6 жыл бұрын

6:11 So wait, you mean to tell me that the same game that contains the level "Wacky Workbench Zone" had quality standards for the level design? Furthermore, I'm expected to believe that "R2" didn't meet said standards? There are 2 possible explanations here: either this guy actually has no clue why the level was cut and just had to confabulate an answer out of thin air because he didn't feel that "I don't really know for sure" was an answer we'd settle for (he dodged a bullet if this is true; this fanbase has no chill and you know it), *or* R2 was secretly the worst sonic level to ever be created and the developers felt the need to return it to hell before they even got to the 512 prototype.

@mattedg8095 6 жыл бұрын

Sega hired artists to make a rendition of each zone in Sonic 1 for Sonic CD. Either Yuji Naka or Takashi Izuka said that they were unhappy with the design of Round 2 so they cut the Round. I believe it's a lie.

@STikER326 6 жыл бұрын

Matt EDG, WUT? Yuji Naka or Takashi Iizuka? Naka was working on Sonic 2 at the other side of the globe at the time, and Iizuka wasn't even around (his first Sonic work is Sonic 3's levels)

@kylesatwon1134 6 жыл бұрын

By quality standards, they probably meant things like the way the level looked and the music not fitting. The level design could've been the best ever, but the level itself wasn't really that great.

@kylesatwon1134 6 жыл бұрын

Perhaps it was bland compared to the other levels...

@LukeMM95 6 жыл бұрын

The best guess as to why it was cut is due to rushed development. This has been an issue with Sonic games since the very beginning. It's for this reason why Sonic 2 is missing its desert level, why Sonic 3 was cut into 2 games, why Sonic Adventure ended up scrapping the more ambitious stages for more streamlined ones and why Sonic 06 was released as a buggy mess.

@apollo4295 6 жыл бұрын

I really like the "music" for the level, but I have a hard time believing it's real (which it probably isn't, as you mentioned). For one, the "Past" music for every level in CD, unlike the other Times, were sequenced music, like on the Genesis. The one played doesn't sound like it could be feasibly played as sequenced music. Plus, all of them have a very "USA soundtrack feel to it," and I doubt the need to make a track for a scrapped level would have even been necessary by the time work on the USA soundtrack began.

@polar-star64 6 жыл бұрын

MegaMan7045 I was just about to mention the Past music, it's 100% fake, no doubt

@Magoflipante85 6 жыл бұрын

I can tell you its fake. Jalex's dumb ass fucked up and thought these fan mixes are real

@tallestflash 6 жыл бұрын

Lol even I mentioned they were 99% fake- I just thought they sounded interesting haha

@codinggamingfun4566 6 жыл бұрын

MegaMan7045 i was just about to say the same

@Luigi269 6 жыл бұрын

I really hoped they were real, but i am really loving these songs.

@louis_epic_888 11 ай бұрын

hey! just wanna point out some newer found info: first of all, the d.a garden track in the 2011 mobile port is confirmed to be the r2 present theme. we dont have any of the past remnants anywhere, however in the sonic wave album, there are 2 tracks, "techno power remix" and "sonic stream". these songs contain what we can sort of expect from the bad/good future songs. also, the real name confirmed by 2 developers is "dubious depths". also, the r stands for round

@tallestflash 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment! Lots of people are coming in with new info; what's in this video is what was available at the time, but I'm super happy to see the story finally coming together after all this time!

@louis_epic_888 11 ай бұрын

@@tallestflash I completely agree! Every asset, info and and line of code is helping us get closer and closer to the truth of dubious depths! Maybe one day we might even be able to play it!

@ardic23 Жыл бұрын

There is one thing to remember from the video is that the Marble Garden Zone is not the Marble Zone

@danielmartin2116 6 жыл бұрын

This game already constantly fascinates me with everything it had and everything it didn't. Now I'm finding out about ANOTHER unused stage (the other being Desert Dazzle). After this video is done, I'm gonna look more into this

@jeremiahjamesorlando 2 жыл бұрын

Actually, Desert Dazzle was made by Christian Whitehead for the 2011 remake, it wasn't initially planned for the original game. However, it WAS based off of an unused level from Sonic 2 called Dust Hill Zone.

@TheMasonGamer 6 жыл бұрын

FINALLY someone is talking about Relic Ruins (R2)

@luizbezerra4373 10 ай бұрын

Years later, now we know it was supposed to be called Dubious Depths and have JP DA Garden theme as its own

@thevalkyriemercenary9463 10 ай бұрын

Also, the bad future theme for dubious depths is an unused song from a 1994 sonic album called techno power mix

@jeroenboth167 6 жыл бұрын

I want to see this level return 😁 cool video 👍

@pupperfresh9601 6 жыл бұрын

Your editing is fantastic

@thecannedslap 4 жыл бұрын

The Tracks used are from a song called Take it and theres like 10 different remixes of it, jalex probably used a few of them and called kr *OfFiciAl sOuNdtRaCK*

@kingdead9533 6 жыл бұрын

Hearing someone mention 06 is like Rick Rolling someone in 2018(AKA the definition of beating a dead horse)

@tallestflash 6 жыл бұрын

Nah, the real dead meme is this: goo.gl/XWz49K

@thatguywhohatesyoualot5169 6 жыл бұрын

brick broll

@BlazeTaleo 6 жыл бұрын

Patrick Francher yeah he should have made fun of forces instead

@blackpants7385 6 жыл бұрын

I don't think that expression applies to meme usage.

@owen3666 6 жыл бұрын

Blaze Taleo it's not that bad tho

@chriswright6245 Жыл бұрын

Wouldn't mind seeing whitehead doing a version of CD with Desert Dazzle and Relic Ruins included

@SilverTomMedia 6 жыл бұрын

The R2 level music, while it is amazingly funky, is actually fake. The original song is "Take It" by Alex Lee. It was also used in the Sonic 1 ROM hack _Sonic The Next Level_, where the song was recreated using the MegaDrive/Genesis soundchip. (I love those alternate time remixes of the song though - I've never heard those ones before!)

@METATRONmusic 6 жыл бұрын

The music in this video that was said to be for R2 is just a bunch of remixed versions of Take It! by Alex Lee. No way that would have been in the original game.

@mann-nova9392 6 жыл бұрын

Huh, I've never heard of this topic before... or you for that matter! But I like your presentation and now I'm super interested in this and whether or not anyone will pick up on it later. Nice job! I'm gonna check out a few more videos and consider subscribing. :)

@rassilontdavros3004 4 жыл бұрын

Let’s see... R1 = Palmtree Panic = Green Hill R2 = ??? = Marble R3 = Collision Chaos = Spring Yard R4 = Tidal Tempest = Labyrinth R5 = Quartz Quadrant = ??? R6 = Wacky Workbench = ??? R7 = Stardust Speedway = Star Light R8 = Metallic Madness = Scrap Brain

@TinyBoxStudiosYT 2 жыл бұрын

Hmmmm I think R5 = Quartz Quadrant = Marble Zone R6 = Wacky Workbench= Probably a part of metallic madness I mean look at the levels they have the colors So here my order R1 = Palmtree Panic R2= Quartz Quadrant R3= Collision Chaos R4= Tidal Tempest R5= Stardust Speedway R6= Wacky Workbench R7= Metallic Madness

@gagejohnson3494 6 жыл бұрын

Jalex's music is actually a remix of Alex Lee - Take It

@ongakuwotabeta 4 жыл бұрын

Little more info has been found, but with the release of December 92 prototype, at least it is more confirmed to be real due to the time attack selection menu (Unfortunately, it only has Palmtree panic in its coding) Also, Palmtree panic was originally Salad Plain.

@MrEvilbyte 6 жыл бұрын

I think the Cut zone in CD was Dust Hill/Desert Dazzle (or at least had it's graphics). Those badniks do look like they'd exist in a desert zone. And that robotnik boss looks like it would drive along the sands. A desert zone with ruins sounds interesting. I'm guessing those Desert Dazzle screenshots once belonged to the Past of R2. Further evidence of this desert zone are extra areas on the DA Garden world map. And the background on Wacky Workbench Past (a canyon).

@toastermario8788 6 жыл бұрын

Desert dazzle Is a level that Christian Whitehead wanted to add to the remake of Sonic CD to be a replacement of the original R2

@kylesatwon1134 6 жыл бұрын

Not only that, but it was based on Sonic 2's level, not any unused level in CD.

@RaCUtricolor 5 жыл бұрын

Dessert Dazzle was an idea created by Christian Whitehead for the 2011 remake based off of Sonic 2's cancelled Dust Hill Zone. It has nothing to do with R2, unless Mr. Whitehead had planned on using its scrapped Badniks in Dessert Dazzle.

@ArcticLuigi 4 жыл бұрын

dude desert dazzle was supposed to be a new zone for the 2011 remake of sonic cd

@570y3n 6 жыл бұрын

Where did the name "Desert Dazzle" come from? I know there was unused content in CD used for Mirage Saloon in Mania from a level known as "Desert Dazzle" which was cut supposedly because the western theme didn't seem to make sense to most of the Japanese audience.

@GabePuratekuta 6 жыл бұрын

It came from the person that made it, Christian Whitehead. He wanted it to be in the remake but it was scrapped because he ignored the multiple regional soundtracks the original had

@Xerdies 6 жыл бұрын

First time watcher here, and just a minor notion: It felt for me, watching it for the first time, that the intro was about to end at 15 seconds - and afterwards felt very dragging in that regard. Otherwise, love the video :)

@jalex777 6 жыл бұрын

OH wow thanks for the shoutout!

@tallestflash 6 жыл бұрын

Lol, no problem, but- were you subscribed or did you just find this lol

@jalex777 6 жыл бұрын

tbh i stumbled onto this. but ill sub :P

@SyphyousG 6 жыл бұрын

He gave you a shout out Jalex...you better sub. XD

@marx4538 6 жыл бұрын

I think Sonic CD is the best Sonic game, but this video is VERY interesting! Subscribed and liked.

@FrahdChikun 3 жыл бұрын

Judging from the Sprite work for R2's boss, you seemed to gloss over the yellow spring on the back of it. Would have this been a boss where you chase it, with the spring acting as something to push Sonic back?

@Zadamanim 6 жыл бұрын

I always wondered why the cinematic showed that ruined area with enemies that never appeared in the game!

@SpiralPegasus 6 жыл бұрын

Considering the Sonic fanbase found not just the _beta_ version of Sonic 2, but it's *_alpha_* one, as well as beta builds of Sonic 3 showing that 3 and Knuckles were going to be just one game and Crackers as proof-of-concept for Chaotix, I'd say it's just matter of time until they find an early build of Sonic CD with R2 in it.

@familyguyfan4208 6 жыл бұрын

some things end up staying lost in time, like the 1990 sonic demo or sonic mars.

@GabePuratekuta 6 жыл бұрын

Or Sonic Synergy

@siah6148 6 жыл бұрын

2 things one your channel is way to underrated and when u were talking about Sega missing number 2 u said add up I see what u did there

@tallestflash 6 жыл бұрын

LMAO That was unintentional but good meme

@Rykerbutcooler Жыл бұрын

For the music part, it's fake, the real version of the song is in the sonic cd soundtracks on streaming services, it's called little big planet and it's the present version of R2. As confirmed by one of the devs. Also for the reason why it was cut out it was probably because of not enough storage on the cd.

@gamerdudeorsomething Жыл бұрын

Ah yes, *Little Big Planet* nothing wrong there.

@Sexynhomeless0092 3 жыл бұрын

Sonic CD was made to be a split version of Sonic 3 & Knuckles. I don't remember the whole story behind it but Sonic CD is supposed to be the Japanese version n Sonic 3 & Knuckles the American version... Basically they had two Sega teams who had a bet on who could make a better sequel to Sonic 2 (if I remember correctly). Anyways look it up if u wanna read the full story. You're welcome 👍

@Enderwither17 6 жыл бұрын

I love the intro my guy

@calebd3947 6 жыл бұрын

*marblegardenzone*

@panoramhusky 6 жыл бұрын

The songs can't be real because the "past" tracks use the Sega Genesis's sound chip, not CD quality audio like the "present" and both "future" tracks.

@BastianTheGreatestCreatorEver 4 жыл бұрын

Someone needs to egt in touch with some people who worked on CD and ask them if the song sounds familiar or something.

@dilltaskermusic1407 6 жыл бұрын

I freaked out when I heard you play "Take It" by Alex Lee at 4:54. That track's been on my playlist for over a decade and I always thought the way the voices are edited sounded a bit like Stardust Speedway. Could it be the Sonic CD soundtrack actually is related to these tracks?

@GabePuratekuta 6 жыл бұрын

They aren't related at all

@whact 5 ай бұрын

2:50 where did taxman even get this?

@Christianrockrockz 6 жыл бұрын

I would have called it Rainbow Ruins personally.

@MizfitZer0 6 жыл бұрын

Seeing as they zones all use the same letter for the start of the names, Palmtree Panic, Wacky Workbench ect... if it is a ruin zone and the concept shows rainbow waterfalls the 1st name that comes to mind is Rainbow Ruins

@badcatalex 6 жыл бұрын

It flat out wasn't relic ruins. It was something similar, but not that.

@maricthehedgehog Жыл бұрын

Fun Fact : the Real name of R2 was revealed And it's Dubious Depths

@asupercoolguywhoscool 2 жыл бұрын

I forgot this and also I was confused when it skipped 2-1 in the stage select

@acronmd 6 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of Yuriofwind, you earned a sub

@tallestflash 6 жыл бұрын

This comment makes me so happy because he's actually one of my inspirations/favorite KZfaqrs! Thank you :D

@medusakat460 2 жыл бұрын

Why is this unused I'm going to cry

@devblue510 6 жыл бұрын

that lost level might show up in a future sonic game

@callmeninaiced 6 жыл бұрын

Uhh... The ACTUAL music of the stage was reused in the DA garden I think

@LetsPlayKeldeo 6 жыл бұрын

nice video ^^

@plasmaxander912 6 жыл бұрын

i think if i make a sonic creepypasta ill base it around a unique set of levels inspired by the more obscure lost zones like snowbank mountain from sa2 and relic ruins staying away from the more well known ones like genocide city and desert dazzle/dust hill

@SpongeMagic 6 жыл бұрын

Since all past tracks in the game use PCM samples instead of redbook audio, the supposed past version of Relic Ruins seems way too high quality when compared to the rest of the past tracks.

@rassilontdavros3004 4 жыл бұрын

Those music tracks were actually used in a hack called _Sonic VR_ by MarkyJester, who compressed them to run on a Genesis. This was _way_ before 2016, so those tracks are definitely not “new discoveries.”

@Automatik234 6 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't trust Jalex too much. While he's a rather cool person, he was a fraud sometimes in the past. Also he loves to invent Zone names, which he also does for his stage mods.

@jalex777 6 жыл бұрын

wow ok

@KidPrarchord95 6 жыл бұрын

Those rainbows could be rainbow waterfalls.

@delatomvione9943 6 жыл бұрын

Let's hope it gets recreated in the future Sonic Mania updates.

@spriteearthworm6463 2 жыл бұрын

It's not marble garden ugh this video is both weird and good

@Mark-pr7ug 2 жыл бұрын

A technical question:. Did the sega cd give the megdrive more graphics ram to play with? I probably knew the answer to this all of those years ago when I owned both machines,but thats a long time ago.

@anonymousTool 5 жыл бұрын

Why we won’t be able to play this level?we are able to play a even finished hidden palace zone in sonic 2 and it was also a cut level that didn’t make it to the final release.So why not the same with R2 in one future?

@alextheidiot2775 3 жыл бұрын

I haven't watched the full vid yet, but I wanna ask, is it normal that I have the entire level of R2? I have it on my tablet. I just got to the level.

@jojidubi4 6 жыл бұрын

Dagger Man’s theme in the end is the best part easily.

@yaboimysticmakashi 6 жыл бұрын

Music has some legitimacy to it it does sound like something that would be cut

@1SonicJack 6 жыл бұрын

I’ve heard the past and present themes before in a rom hack called Sonic the next level. don’t know if that helps proves if the songs are fake or not though I’d thought it would be good to mention.

@jalex777 6 жыл бұрын

nah that rom hack used it afterwards

@1SonicJack 6 жыл бұрын

Alright after some quick research I found two things first the song for the act kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ecp8a8l7rZjRmZc.html, and second thanks to a comment on the video states that the song is called “Take it” by Alan Lee and was made in 1990 so thus the song is proven to be fake zone music.

@jalex777 6 жыл бұрын

yep that was clarified

@YTChannelNat 6 жыл бұрын

"nah that rom hack used it afterwards" ...despite the fact that you uploaded the songs in 2016, while the ROM Hack was made in 2015. Maybe I'm misunderstanding something here? Your wording is a little ambiguous...

@maricthehedgehog Жыл бұрын

In my opinion Relic Ruins Zone is gonna be a mix of Marble Zone from Sonic 1 & Aquatic Ruins Zone from Sonic 2

@maricthehedgehog Жыл бұрын

For Short It gonna be Aquatic Ruins Zone with Marble Zone Level Design (Sorry...)

@johney-duh-one Жыл бұрын

Funny that Round 2 has been semi-confirmed to be based off of Marble Zone thanks to the recent release of new level concept art in Sonic Origins.

@lam7207 Жыл бұрын

@@johney-duh-one "new level concept art in Sonic Origins" seriously? Can i get a link or a screenshot?

@johney-duh-one Жыл бұрын

@@lam7207 Sure thing. info.sonicretro.org/images/5/5b/SonicCD_MCD_Development_LittlePlanet.png

@angryboi595 4 жыл бұрын

My idea for what the boss of R2 could of been You race eggman and eggman places the spikes that you jump over or it will hit you. Eggman does a little boot that shoots little fire from the eggbike's back (yes I'm calling it eggbike) dont touch the fire or you may get hit. If you run into eggman or eggman drives into you. You will get hit. He takes 8 hits to defeat. The back spring on eggmans back will push you back when trying to defeat him. Yeah I know my idea isnt really great and it sounds easy but the bosses in sonic CD arent good anyway

@orangeytrain8878 4 жыл бұрын

I hope the boss from it one day returns

@TheT3rr0rMask 4 жыл бұрын

Always wondered where that badnick from the intro came from

@cindycoyne8491 6 жыл бұрын

The r2 thing is actually going to a desert the same one that was cut from sonic 2 so the CD remake was a desert themed zone and Christian white head wanted to add in that missing zone but Sega didn't want them to and what you see in sonic mania is the cut desert stage from sonic 2 and cd

@GabePuratekuta 6 жыл бұрын

No, Desert Dazzle was entirely created by Christian Whitehead specifically to fill the R2 slot in the 2011 remake and was inspired by the scrapped Dusty Hill Zone from Sonic 2

@user-ex6xc5ox3k 6 жыл бұрын

We get it , you got on hiddenblocks .

@tallestflash 6 жыл бұрын

LOL I wish! Just the name of the series my dude :)

@retrobitgamer4569 6 жыл бұрын

Well, the past music is definitely take because the soundtrack for past zones were never CD quality tracks. They used the system's sound board. This is also why the Japanese and American versions share the past soundtrack of each zone as they are not actual tracks on a disk.

@Tornado1994 6 жыл бұрын

On top of that, the samples sound WAY too "Desperate Modem Early 90s Remix" to be authentic. Sonic CD's Japanese soundtrack is way too unique and Ubiquitous. Its pure Early 90s Japanese Clubhouse Music. That sounds like it has a Footprint from that time period.

@badcatalex 6 жыл бұрын

RetroBitGamer compression

@RaCUtricolor 5 жыл бұрын

It's all fake, all of the tracks are different versions of Take It by Alex Lee.

@breck8668 6 жыл бұрын

So there's no actual level that we can make the game load over another stage in the game and play it?

@eqquip6812 5 жыл бұрын

5:29 sounds super good :D

@RaCUtricolor 4 жыл бұрын

Actually, the Jalex777 R2 themes are all fake, as not only do they "use" parts of Take It by Alex Lee, but most of said tracks are just compressed versions of different official remixes of the song. If I remember correctly, the Mighty version is used for the Present mix, the OPM Mix is used for the Past mix and the Good Future mix, and the Mr. Oz vs Klepto-Maniacs version is used for the Bad Future mix.

@tallestflash 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I know, I said they were fake, literally said they were from Alex Lee LOL. They're just a part of the commonly believed history of R2, because a lot of people associate it w the name Relic Ruins

@queensophia3137 4 жыл бұрын

@@tallestflash Well here you go the unused JP R2 Bad Future Track or it unused track for another zone like the original R9 which is likely the desert area for little planet map drive.google.com/file/d/1KqmdELk0KFnHUgB0jRq-Sl8ZB82PATRP/view?usp=drivesdk

@chrisrosa5382 5 жыл бұрын

How do I make a 3d Sprite like in the intro I've been trying to do that forever

@bingobo2551 2 жыл бұрын

R2 can depend on which version, Original: relic ruins/ not marble zone 2011/origins ver: desert dazzle/ not dust hill zone.

@crazyexpresso Жыл бұрын

desert dazzle was a level planned for the 2011 remake but got scrapped

@bingobo2551 Жыл бұрын

@@crazyexpresso I know, most likely was planned to be the second zone in the game. Due to the coding. Or thats what I think DD was gonna be at.

@plantman2387 Жыл бұрын

Even though that music is fake, it is good music, especially the "bad future"

@pandaproduction4390 5 жыл бұрын

Funny how you say that marble garden is one of your least favorite classic sonic levels yet you mistakened marble zone as marble garden in this video.

@GuyWithThePie 6 жыл бұрын

4:37 sounds far too advanced for a Past theme. All of CD's Past themes used the Genesis soundchip (Or something along those lines, I'm not entirely sure) instead of the CD-quality music of other tracks to give them a more "retro" feel. They couldn't be easily altered either, which is why the US soundtrack doesn't have any Past themes to call its own.

@badcatalex 6 жыл бұрын

GuyWithThePie not the Genesis chip, all PCM/MIDI

@badcatalex 6 жыл бұрын

Also, it would be just decompressed.

@gagejohnson3494 6 жыл бұрын

GuyWithThePie the CD had its own soundchip and they probably used it to save space on the disc, plus it could just be a concept music.

@RaCUtricolor 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's fake, it's just a remix of a song called Take It by Alex Lee.

@UFBMusic 6 жыл бұрын

Hey do you have a link for the bad future version of the song at 5:13? It's actually pretty rude!

@Stick_boooob 6 жыл бұрын

UFBMusic Here you go m8 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ppORoq-TtrzWdmg.html

@shalpp 6 жыл бұрын

Unless the past music posted was a concept it wouldn't be redbook audio quality

@alicialeboeuf4009 4 жыл бұрын

All the zones are shown on the little planet, so maybe relic ruins is shown on the little planet

@remedynoneofyourbusiness6 6 жыл бұрын

Replay shop! Intro included 0:00 0:01 0:02 0:03 0:04 0:05 0:06 0:07 0:08 0:09 0:10 0:11 0:12 0:13 0:14 0:15 0:16 0:17 0:18 0:19 0:20 0:21 0:22 0:23 0:24 0:25 0:26 0:27 0:28 Intro not included 0:29

@remedynoneofyourbusiness6 6 жыл бұрын

Skip shop 8:02 9:03 10:04

@TheXhanort 6 жыл бұрын

I've never heard of this. Has anyone made a fan made rendition of this stage? I've seen a lot of hacks of cd and fan games influenced by cd, but I don't believe I've come across a rendition to it. If not, I hope this video inspires someone to make the stage.

@tallestflash 6 жыл бұрын

Same, its a shame too, pretty sure it wouldve been cool

@jalex777 6 жыл бұрын

hey, i JUST posted a mod preview for Mania. You can check that out

@TheXhanort 6 жыл бұрын

Seems like Jalex777 is working on it kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fr-Erax-35_Ino0.html

@a-posetexturelessjoker1539 6 жыл бұрын

the music kinda sounds like a rom hack Sonic Next Level play through an emulator of choice and you can make a playthrough

@Blecker3646 4 жыл бұрын

past and futures are remixes of alex lee's 'take it.' I only know that the OPM Mix is the past version.

@lebanonballfree_palestine6036 Жыл бұрын

Sonic CD Levels Should Have 9 Zones Like Palmtree Panic Relic Ruins Collision Chaos Tidal Tempest Quartz Quadrant Wacky Workbench Desert Dazzle Stardust Speedway Metallic Madness