It’s amazing

The Knuckles glide changes everything.

I tried all of it and it was awesome

It's nice but I already enjoyed Update 3 so my thoughts remain the same

Yeh

Me suffering on Easy mode and couldn't get passed the 2nd boss. I raged quit and deleted the game. Now I'm going to see if it's possible now.

Now all of us who beat the Trail Towers and the 5 Trails on hard before the update have bragging rights. And honestly, I wish that they left hard mode as it was entirely, and made the difficulty changes exclusive to normal and easy mode. It actually felt like an even greater accomplishment to beat The Final Horizon when it was as unforgiving as it was.

i suffered for at least 5 hours before i somehow managed to beat it

And me who did it on extrem mode, hehehe

I suffered an hour and a half non stop trying. I was ready to call it quits but i finally beat it then i realized after that easy mode makes the perfect parry last a lil bit more

Wow great they keep coming back to rework the game and it doesn't change anything of the fact it's still a mid game

I hope it's the same director because he understands what people want. He had to beg sega for the little extra development time and in my eyes it totally paid off. Hopefully we get frontiers 2 with the same director

@@bbguy2245 Kishimoto sucks as a Director

​@stormcutter59 I respect your opinion, I've yet to play the game yet but I'll know I'll have a great time when I do

​@@stormcutter59 How?

Yeah in my experience before the patch the only part, that is way to hard I prefer calling it not play tested, or unfair, is trial 5 and that’s about it. I’m not counting the final boss healing tube being poorly explained, because they straight up tell you what to do how to counter the healing tube, if you do the objectives for cyberspace levels, or beat the cyberspace levels. But this patch basically Tails was already way to OP, and the only challenge tails had was combat, because compared to the other character parry tails had the shortest parry time, and basically the only fun part I had with tails, is now gone making him way to OP. He’s basically just spectator mode, or god mode now. Knuckles improved glide I think is the second best part of this patch, and they basically nerfed the knuckles flying glitch, making it less useful which i found is a cool idea, you basically can’t fly infinity with knuckles anymore, only at a certain height, where the 2 punches knuckles do, gravity starts to effect it pushing knuckles down. Trial 5 easily best part of the patch, if I want more rings in hard mode I can just join trial 5 on easy mode then change it back to hard mode. Only minor issue is I think they did nothing for extreme difficulty, but nobody in there first play through, would ever see extreme difficulty, so I can let that slide. Knight removing the shield secret, basically made that Titan, boss fight way to easy now, the only reason why they did it, is due to trial 5, and maybe to give some hint, for the final boss in update 3. So yeah rip anybody attacking knight shield, and fighting and enjoying the music longer, in there first play through. Rip knight only defence. And the balloons for update 3 towers, I basically don’t care about it at all, I know they need to make the game easy, but skipping the entire platforming sections removes all of the fun. So I think the patch only improved around 2 things from what I seen. which is Knuckles glide, and knuckles fly glitch nerf. And trial 5 don’t force people anymore, to pause buffer or do no parry runs, to beat the titans in hard or normal difficulty anymore. Nearly Everything else just made things less fun. There is still fun to be gained but not as much as before. Unless I just prefer frontiers to be fair with its challenge.

I agree @petesoys6348. I need for him to have his Tail Attack (Tail Swipe). Especially since they showed it in the prologue comic for the game. My suggestion to add it would be to let him do it when he has no cursor like Amy’s Card Attack or Knuckles’s Combo Attack, and when he has a cursor the Wrench Attack would execute. Tail has always been my favorite Sonic character.

I completely agree. His "flight delay" makes platforming much smoother and less frustrating. Plus, the animation is fun to watch in my opinion

You mean, it's more obvious what you need to do? The ability to circle around knight's shield has always been there. It's just that nobody ever thinks to do it

Yeah its def respectable that they went the extra mile when the game was finished and the reputation it had was set in stone

Honestly a huge W I wanna replay the game now

I mean... Did we get Frontiers Shadow yet? I'm really hoping we do.

No, it wasn't removed, Sonic hub was just bad at doing it. I tried it myself on PS4. You can still parry combo parry repeat upwards forever as usual.

it's still there, they just made it harder to pull off

It's way harder to pull off. I was still able to do it but I could only reach a certain height before I couldn't do it anymore.

Ain’t no way they called it tax evasion, I didn’t even know that😂 it’s because of memes like these that I stick with Sega

@@hydrolix5745 the context behind the name is that a streamer played sonic boom and the official sonic twitch account said in response to him doing the glitch “this is tax evasion” and so the infinite knuckles jump glitch is now legally tax evasion

Truly Lost media

Same, dude

No it wouldn't. It's one of those minor "issues" that largely wouldn't change people's opinions of the game even if they implemented that change.

Stop definitely the bad design of The The Final Horizen

@@elpopman2055 Skill issue. You ain't no real gamer. Let this comment thread is for pros not rookies like you.

Exactly

Guess so!

They could possibly add these things seeing as they are still active with the game and are releasing patches

I think hard mode's more beatable now too the parry window is less 1-frame per secondy

I was about to say that

Actually they did patch it in the sense that you fall faster each time you do it. so you'll never get infitite height.

Well it’s half patched but you can still got more hight

Are you playing it in Hard Mode?

@@kiarazoccogoldenbonniegirl1641 I was when I first played Final Horizon until I was forced to change it to Easy just to make things less annoying during the Snake Trial.

@@stardogsmasher6217easy now has 600 rings and lvl 25 attack that’s more than enough to take on the master king trials

The bosses aren't hard, but there long af, so less hits and/or fazes would be great

I'm glad I wasn't the only one struggling on easy mode lol. I raged quit and deleted the game after trying for a week straight trying to be the 2nd boss. 400 rings wasn't enough. Or at least give us 400 rings with the 3 bosses. Nonetheless ima redownload it and try to beat it now. I need to know what happens after.

@@FusionKushhe never said he was struggling also skill issue I beat it on my 3rd attempt on hard

Bosses are easy with all seven emeralds 😂

​@@RameNoodlssame😂

All I want are titan themes in jukebox, super sonic in open zone (probably the hardest thing to do), other characters in the other islands, non-cyber forms, and new cyberspace in arcade/challenge

I agree to all of this except the tedious walk up to the titans I would love to start as super sonic but on the other hand I don't want it to be that easy getting chaos emeralds were always a challenge

@@Ghosted143 That part is still unnecessary and tedious cuz there isn't any challenge to it. All u have to do is watch out for obstacles that can easily be avoided. The real challenge is facing the titans which if the player still have trouble timing the parries right or game somehow screws them over time n time again, then they shouldn't have to keep on climbing onto titans everytime. Just get to the Super Sonic fight. For me tho, I already beat the titans and want to fight them again, but since there's no option to fight them individually (Which Kishimoto also needs to add), I'm stuck with boss rush or King Koco trial. I'm tired of either slugging through enemies during boss rush just to reach one titan while King Koco, I don't want to climb up to titans and just want to get to the main course already. This problem should be erased, at least in easy n normal mode. Hard mode maybe. Extreme mode, fine keep the climbing up to titans and make the climbing more fun n harder instead of feeling like another easy n boring chore to deal with again

@@chillihog1543 imma be real I'm just speaking from my experience the king coco trial had me fight the titans so much that I can already perfectly parry everything just fine so boss rush just to get to one isn't a big deal for me and climbing the titans are tedious but in my opinion I don't mind it because it makes the fight feel like a bit of a struggle to prove you can ascend to a higher form and then the true battle begins and from a story standpoint of all the last emeralds being on their heads anyway I just don't have a problem with any of this I'm not saying it's a skill issue it's just after doing it over and over you start to not care anymore and just enjoy it

@@Ghosted143 Great that u enjoy it n got the parry timing right, but it doesn't mean everyone else does. Not even saying climbing up the titans are hard, it's just boring n feels unnecessary to do. Even with the parries being easy, what if I want to fight them again? Then I have to keep climbing up to them for the 11th time and it's just soo boring. I just want to get straight to the point since I already beaten the titans for like 4 times. Since there's no option to fight them individually (Fix this Kishimoto), I only got two options. Slug through boss rush or do tedious climbing, which both are boring to deal with. Just wish there was a faster n less tedious way to just get to the point already.

Even before this update, Knuckles in Frontiers completely blows 06 Knuckles out of the water in terms of control. 06 controls as a whole, especially on the amigo characters (minus Blaze), were garbage. It's not even a contest.

@@DSmith3279 Naw u gotta replay 06 Knuxs. At least his gliding turning was normal and his climbing wasn't sluggish and u still at least can climb anywhere. Ya once u try to jump off, sometimes he would stick to walls, but even then it ain't the end of the world cuz the way I deal with the issue is by keep tapping A or move to the other wall and jump off safely as Knuxs. Plus his sections were short since his only objective is to hit the button so his experience ain't too horrible. Frontiers Knuxs pre update 3.5 on the other hand, his sections are way longer than 06 Knuxs n his controls were horrendous unfinished n just god awful. Moveset is off since he doesn't stop completely like Sonic. Climbing felt sluggish (At least in tight n close corners where I kept falling off cuz of how fast n awkward his climbing movement felt), and u should already know how god awful his gliding was (Especially with infinite rings n if ur trying to turn normally when dodging obstacles). Combat is at least better than 06 Knuxs but it doesn't matter since he's useless against the guardians since they eat up damage and move fast asf. He was only useful against small enemies which ain't saying much since they can be beaten one tap tho

Not really

I never really cared about amys hammer tbh

I say that saga droped Amy having her hammer in games now it is jest cards

MINOR SPELLING MISTAKE. I WIN.

Honestly, I don’t mind her using her cards. The problem I had with Amy using her hammer is that it doesn’t really make her that different to Knuckles. How so? It’s because Knuckles uses his, well, Knuckles offensively, making him the offence of the group. And Amy uses her hammer offensively, making her the offence as well? To me personally, Amy using her cards really helps separate her role in the team? How will she use her cards from now on? I’m not sure. But we shall see.

You can get Spin Dash in the main story by getting S ranks on all the overworld challenges

Yeah but the glitch is nerfed, you can’t infinite fly anymore with this glitch, you can only fly at a certain height, until the 2 punches have gravity start effecting it, pushing knuckles down. Where you need to use some skill, with the glitch now.

Yeah they fumbled on that although I have it with mods haha

And Sonic's friends on other islands.

@@ThamyRose19 that would be cool but that doses not really bother me personally as at the end of the day i am one of those people that would rather play a sonic game as sonic but i understand that not everyone feels that way.

@@SonicHubYT it is not big deal to me as at the end of day frontiers is still among my favourites in the series and i just think super sonic is a fun op bonus is the games that he is in (apart from generations). it is also possible that the devs never intended for him to be playable in the open zones and if that is the case then that is perfectly fine with me as the titan fights are still highlights of the game for me.