Sony 11mm F1.8 - For Full-frame Video

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The video discusses the use of the Sony 11mm F1.8 APS-C lens on a full-frame Sony A7IV.
We discuss dealing with the APS-C crop and show example footage in different situations.
Sony 11mm F1.8
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@ÁzsiábaSzakadtam Жыл бұрын

This channel is way underrated. I haven't seen such a comprehensive and detailed explanation of this matter elsewhere. The video came up by keyword search as I'm about to buy the ZV E1 with a big crop when using dynamic active stabilization, that's why I'm looking for a lens that could compensate it. Thank you for making everything clear for me.

@AndrewVanBeekOttawa Жыл бұрын

I did this video just before the release of the ZV E1 and thought the same thing about how well it would work with DAS.

@arfmf Жыл бұрын

As a bonus the ZV-E1 still has eye AF even with dynamic stabilization and clear image zoom on top of that. It's a great lens the problem for me is the focal length itself way too much distortion on faces and anything near the edges. Great video, lots of useful info.

@Franklincm12 Жыл бұрын

Great video. Really appreciated the visual examples…made so much more sense to me. I found your page as I purchased the 11mm/f1.8 used, then realized it’s an APS-C, so feeling a little buyers remorse. To have the visuals and the instruction to make it more effective I am feeling much better about it! Subscribed and looking forward to learning so much more from your page. Thanks!!!

@IMadeInRussiaI Жыл бұрын

thanks for this really quality-made review. exactly helpful tests + recalculating real equivalents after active IS. and even no useless unpacking section for prolonging the video. much recpects for the effort

@Archee__ Жыл бұрын

I'm trying to buy a wide-angle lens for aps-c with a full frame lens. So I watched various videos while searching, and this video did the best analysis. It has all the information I want. Thank you for showing and comparing various lenses. I hope this channel grows more!

@streetlegends 6 ай бұрын

I like using the old sony pancake lenses on full frame mode such as the 16mm f2.8 or 20mm f2.8 and you can add the Wide angle converter or fisheye converter to go wider. its fun to use in tight spots such as cars, small rooms, vlogging, airplanes etc..

@enfieldlover8145 7 ай бұрын

love your tests, subscribed, all in fan

@BinnyAndMeena 5 ай бұрын

Thanks you for the size camparision. Loved it. Super helpful.

@ShamelessRambler Жыл бұрын

it's also worth noting the minimum focus distance is also only 4.7" I was hoping you'd cover that a bit, but this still exceeded my expectations. thanks for the video.

@Pharesm 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for that review, you really put a lot of interesting details into this, and your diagram gave me all kinds of ideas. I use that lens on APCS 6700. The one unavoidable problem for me, is with group shots, its too easy to make everybody look terrible with the 11mm lens. I'd need a 16mm lens to get 24mm on my crop frame camera. I think so many movie directors use 24mm as their widest frame, because beyond that, stuff starts to distort in all kinds of nasty ways... People tell me to get a zoom, but I'm up on a mountain 6000 feet, serious low light every evening.

@randallbrander8157 10 ай бұрын

Excellent! Cheers!

@TommyIdaho 2 ай бұрын

This is excellent!

@LegendaStudio 7 ай бұрын

Thank you very much!

@djoaniel Жыл бұрын

very helpful. my 10-18 recently died and i'm looking for something to help me replace it. it's not easy to find comparison videos when using apsc lens on full frame. thanks!

@Average1212 Жыл бұрын

Sony autofocus in clearview zoom is still better than Panasonic.......

@BarflyNvrsk Ай бұрын

Thank you, , this is only one video without any marketing bullshit - just user experience. Thank you again, you helped me to make my mind clear about that lens.

@AndrewVanBeekOttawa Ай бұрын

Thanks, I appreciate that. It's always fun to do a video when you have no obligations or agenda.

@ivandj707 Жыл бұрын

Great video, thanks. Sony 11mm looks just good enough for video on A7IV. Who is more into photography Laowa 12mm seems a better choice, and you already have all that so you're good. Cheers.

@two_weeks_of_fog 7 ай бұрын

Do you know clear image zoom save position after turn off camera?

@AndrewVanBeekOttawa 7 ай бұрын

It does not unfortunately.

@somaticconsent510 4 ай бұрын

thank you for the honest review, makes my decision clear not to get the lens

@Luca_2 Жыл бұрын

good video thanks

@salimbenaadjou Жыл бұрын

Thx!

@Krinyo666 7 ай бұрын

According to this video super 35 crop mode uneccessary because in this mode we get much more noise. If we use full frame mode with active steady shot + 1.2 clear image zoom we get enough crop to avoid vigneting. I see better this option than using super 35 crop mode and this wa we get 14,5mm opopsite 16,5mm. But. instead of clear imahge zoom did you think about act steady shot + breathing compensation? It is also a crop and with breathing compensation it should work every focus function. It could be a solution not to lose the eye tracking. I don't have this lens yet so I can't try it but I'd liket to buy one, because this is the cheapest way to get 14-15mm wideangle lens with filter possibility. Thanks for this video!

@lb_projekt Жыл бұрын

Fantastic video!

@boomergrown 11 ай бұрын

Been watching a lot of 11mm f1.8 videos looking for a vlogging lens for an a6700. Upgrading from an a6000 so I have some stabalization to work with. I can carry the a6700 for vlogging and my a6000 with GMII sony full frame glass on a tripod for photos and other video. Best of both worlds until I make my first million dollars on youtube. lol Thank you man much appreciated.

@AndrewVanBeekOttawa 11 ай бұрын

I picked up an A6700 last week and have used it a ton with the Sony 11mm F1.8. It’s so good that I don’t even want another lens for it yet.

@bengrunow6108 9 ай бұрын

Hey Andrew! I really appreciate all the great information in your video. Im hoping you can lend some advice with regards to some of my needs and wants that i wish to achieve with a lens like this. As i'm on a budget, i'm trying to find something that could work for real estate videography/photography (in which i would be shooting 4k60 on the A7IV) and possibly some astrophotography for fun (i would probably aim for 16mm, which in theory would work in APS-C? (i don't know if this would be stupid to take away from the full sensor)) Thanks a lot!!!

@AndrewVanBeekOttawa 9 ай бұрын

The lens that has most recently caught my eye in the range you mention is the Viltrox 16mm F1.8. The reviews have been quite good and the price is hard to beat. I have no personal experience with it but it’s worth investigating.

@KaranAndHimani Жыл бұрын

I want know I have sony lens sel 11 f 18 what size filter I purchased 55mm ?

@AndrewVanBeekOttawa Жыл бұрын

The thread size is 55mm but you can use larger filters as well with a step-up ring. I use a 55-67 step-up.

@NARFALICIOUS 2 ай бұрын

9:02 Using the 11mm lens, which would provide better low light quality, a6700 + 11mm, or A7CII/A7IV +11mm with Super35 mode?

@AndrewVanBeekOttawa 2 ай бұрын

I haven't actually compared side by side but I think the A7IV is cleaner because of the over-sampling and higher top clean ISO (3200 for the A7IV).

@RogerinFinland 3 ай бұрын

Great video! I appreciate the calm delivery! Based on your video, my assumption is that with the ZV-E1 and Dynamic Active stabilization (about 1.3x) it would be fine and a great 14-15mm AFTER the stabilization. Would you agree?

@AndrewVanBeekOttawa 3 ай бұрын

I don’t have any experience with that camera, but my expectation is that it would be perfect for that. I’ve actually wanted to try it for myself. Even if there is a bit of vignetting, you could still crop it out.

@RogerinFinland 3 ай бұрын

@@AndrewVanBeekOttawa thanks! I might get one 😊

@dzheyd9609 Жыл бұрын

Very informative, thank you! I wanted you to ask about an nd for this lens, what filter size it should be? Can I just slap 2 slim 55mm filters one being nd and second being glimmerglass, for example? Would it introduce vignetting? I saw from video that you have used step up rings and a bigger filter size nd. Is that what you recommend? I have 3 lenses all being 55mm filter thread I do I have to buy additional nd for this lens if I consider it to buy? thanks!

@AndrewVanBeekOttawa Жыл бұрын

That’s a good question but one I can’t answer since I don’t have a 55mm VND to try. I would be hopeful that the crop that is introduced by using the methods that I mention, would eliminate that but I can’t say for certain.

@dzheyd9609 Жыл бұрын

@@AndrewVanBeekOttawa and what size vnd are you using now?

@AndrewVanBeekOttawa Жыл бұрын

@@dzheyd9609 I use a 67mm and a 72

@claudiubanu8438 10 ай бұрын

@@dzheyd9609Hey! I just recived my Sony ZV E10 and this 11 mm lens. It is my first camera 😁 Not sure what ND filter to choose for this wide angle to avoid vignetting... someone told me is better to buy fixed ND filters, not variable. And also use a big stepup ring. Can you recommend me a brand? Maybe you can tell me exactly what you use for your 11 mm? Thanks!

@dzheyd9609 10 ай бұрын

@@claudiubanu8438 Hi, regarding ND I use K&F variable nd filters, and do recommend them. If you are just starting its the best and easiest way to get familiar with this tool. Dont buy the cheapest K&F nd but only those who have hard stops at the ends. I recommend K&F 2-5 stop or 3-8 stop nds from this brand. Those which are 2-400 or 2-2000 are almost trash. Fixed NDs are more for professionals and big heavy rigged setups. And 11mm 1,8 is not that kind of lens. If you put both 55mm nd and mist filter you may encounter a vignetting, so I recommend using bigger filter with step up ring. I recommend to buy a step up ring from 55mm(which Sony 11mm uses) to 67mm. Use 67mm variable ND filter because it is most versatile filter thread for Sony lenses(especially all Tamron lenses are 67mm).

@Solopoplanecie 11 ай бұрын

Does gyro data is still collecting? I think no, so no Good for vlogging. Besides it does not use eye focus. Its super yummy but not for vlogging unfortunatly. Thanks for Good review!

@lemouserat Жыл бұрын

Hello Andrew, thank you for this video, I learned a lot from it. I am looking for a cheap ultra-wide FAST lens for my sony a7iii. I am shooting events, and would use it mostly for stills and from time to time for video. My first question is: I learned that there is some degradation in its low-light capabilities when used in FF mode? Like...how could you measure its results? Around F2 or even 2.8? My second question is: Is it worth it, to save some bucks and go for this lens in comparison to the Sony 20mm 1.8? I understood that you gain some space (it is equivalent to 14mm in stills, not 16mm, right?) but then you lose some resolution because you have to crop? Some mm's more are always great, but is it worth the loss of resolution? What is your opinion? Thanks :)

@AndrewVanBeekOttawa Жыл бұрын

You will definitely see a degradation in low light quality but it depends on what ISO you’re using. With your A7III you’re cropping from 24Mp to 16Mp and expanding that noise. You can test this out by running some cropping tests at various ISOs. I personally never use anything slower than F1.8 indoors. I have both the 11mm and the 20mm for video and love them both. The 20mm gets used the most because I rarely need much wider but when I do need it, it’s worth having a tiny, not-so-crazy-expensive lens that requires a little extra effort to make work. I do enjoy editing though.

@v3zMedia Жыл бұрын

@@AndrewVanBeekOttawado you notice a difference in image quality between the 11mm and 20mm 1.8 lenses?

@AndrewVanBeekOttawa Жыл бұрын

@@v3zMedia I’m surprised to say that I don’t notice a difference. Even after cropping in, nothing really jumps out. Video is surprisingly forgiving compared to still photography.

@chrissan6015 3 ай бұрын

when using apsc mode isnt quality loss minimal because its down sampled from 7k?

@AndrewVanBeekOttawa 3 ай бұрын

No, it’s actually using a cropped portion of the sensor. It’s not taking the full frame, 7K image and squeezing into APSC size.

@skybankpro Жыл бұрын

Interested to know what picture profile your using to shoot?

@AndrewVanBeekOttawa Жыл бұрын

I use SLog 3 for everything. Then Phantom LUTs plus whatever tweaks to the colour after.

@j5146 10 ай бұрын

Great video! In your oppinion, for real estate video, which one would be the best? Laowa 9 mm or Sony 11 mm? Thanks!❤

@AndrewVanBeekOttawa 10 ай бұрын

I haven’t tried the Laowa but I do use the Laowa 12mm Zero D on a full frame camera for real-estate and it’s amazing. What camera are you using?

@j5146 10 ай бұрын

@@AndrewVanBeekOttawa I will be buying the A7IV. :)

@AndrewVanBeekOttawa 10 ай бұрын

@@j5146 I’ve owned a lot of cameras over the years and the A7IV is my all time favourite.

@joemendoza25 Ай бұрын

Hello, what was the mm on the filter?

@AndrewVanBeekOttawa Ай бұрын

55mm filter thread on the lens, used a step up ring to use my 67mm VND.

@robertsaca3512 9 ай бұрын

Thr other function of this lens is the ability to use breathing compensation.

@user-es5bv2ol1z Жыл бұрын

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