Love it! Man, the fact the SD card slot is on the side may be a small change for some but I'm right there with ya lol I still open the battery door out of habit on the ZV-E1 when I'm swapping SD cards lol

My pleasure!

My pleasure! Glad this video was valuable for you!

That’s awesome! As time goes on you’ll see people expand the use of what they use the a6700 for, just like it happened for the a6400. The a6700 was an awesome follow up to the FX30. FF is definitely overrated but once that demand hit the market, all the camera brands jumped on it and haven’t looked back lol I would have stayed with APS-C if it was regularly supported like FF and it received the expanded features long term.

Thank you so much! 😊

You’re welcome 😊

There's really little limitations from the a6700 to the A7C 2, even if they are doing professional work, it's easily accomplished with the a6700. The data bitrate, resolution, and quality are all there for the a6700. Clients don't care about full frame vs APS-C, so it boils down to who is holding the camera and the quality they can or cannot produce. The real juice is always going to be the content, just like the skills of the basketball player isn't dependent on the ball. However, if the ball if flat or leaking air it won't matter who's playing with it-it sucks lol I think a lot of folks, me included, were waiting to really see the A7C 2 kind of "unleashed" from the A74's limitations and it just didn't happen. Still a great camera but so is everything else on the market lol

🤣 Yes, it's called PUT DOWN THE DEBIT CARD AND BACK AWAY QUICKLY! lol The reality is you don't NEED to buy all of them because you can only use one at a time. You're not missing out from one camera to next, just get the two you really like and will do 99% of what you want and let the rest stay at the store lol Or buy up the whole store and let the delivery man think it's Christmas in September lol

Thank you! I appreciate you sharing that in a comment!

Then you already have your decision made lol it’d be the A7C 2. They both virtually weigh the same thing and will give similar performance while traveling. Go with the A7C 2.

@dronetheworld4k67 Just posted a video answering your question since your question came up while I was taking some time offline. You can see my reply to your question here if you like: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iseGaNGkx9OxeIk.html

Crop on the a7cii is the same as base a6700 at 4k60 yes. Think about this though the 4k60 on the II is downsampled only from 4.6k rather than 7k when shooting 4k60 but the a6700 is still from 6k giving a sharper image though the II still uses 7k at 30 and less fps. Something also to note here is the A7cR you cannot use apsc mode at all with 4k60 even with an apsc lens its forced into line skipped 1.2x crop which actually looks worse than both other cameras on top of needing to digitally zoom if you use an apse lens like that and the sensor read out is terribly slow so if video is your focus id stay away from the R. All things that arent common to find out when digging deep on the topic.

@@BuiltInception thank you, great explanation. I will more than likely stick with the a7CII. It is in a nice sweet spot.

Thank you! In the hand, I’m sure it’ll be an enjoyable experience for ya!

lol! Well, I appreciate you sharing that anyhow lol They're both rock solid cameras, so you'll be well served either way.

Man, what a fun experience that must be for you! The Sony a6500 was A PROBLEM when it first came out lol If it had a flippy screen, I would have switched to Sony back then lol But it's definitely been a lot of camera changes since then and gotta be a night and day difference for you lol. I'm glad to hear you're enjoying your camera!

Honestly, that's either camera that can fit that bill. Any benefits of full frame are lost if the primary recording is done in 4k 60p. No matter which you choose, you'll still end up at APS-C in 4k 60p. The difference at that point is the a6700 doesn't need to crop in because it's already APS-C. On the a6700 you'd get access to a higher MP quality of the 26MP sensor because it's already APS-C. Whereas the A7C 2 crops in, so you do lose a bit of quality technically but it's honestly pulling at a hairs difference between two. I think the greater value is considering your lenses, how you plan to create and which camera long-term best pairs with your lens choices. These cameras are so similar, you'd get near identical use from them. Another area to consider is what do you think you'll get the most joy from using. You know how you create and what excites you and gets you going. Choose based on what you think you'd enjoy the most. Because once you start creating, all that spec sheet comparison info won't matter.

@@DianaGladney Thank you Diana for providing such useful insights!

Gems here thanks for those tips Diana! Love it, what would you enjoy creating on the most.

Honestly, the cameras won't have that big of a deal between them depending on how or what you intend to record. As a tattoo artist, if it's just sitting on a tripod there's a benefit to having full frame to bring in more light to the sensor, regardless of the lens used. The other thing will be choosing the right lens for your intended use case. That'll honestly make a greater impact than the camera body when using these two cameras. So, the camera body isn't the greater decision, but the lens options. If I was in your shoes, I'd probably get the a6700 over the A7C 2. There's not enough significant value simply going full frame that'd make it worth it, in my opinion. You'll be spoiled for lens options either way, but in your shoes, I'd go the a6700 route and get a couple lenses depending on how you plan to record.

Nicely put! The Sony 15mm is incredible! I could easily see getting that lens and/or the Sony 11mm f1.8 and being perfectly happy with what it’s putting out, even without a gimbal.

Yeah, I actually shared them in the video lol

Personally, I’d never go back to any of the models with the older menu system from an efficiency standpoint. Having the same workflow from one camera to the next is massively underrated and undervalued. Which is why I got rid of all my aps c bodies and converting completely over the new menu systems. So it’s not just the video specs alone for me.

Interesting! I've haven't used the new menu system yet, it looks much more streamlined @@DianaGladney

If you show up with the compact camera with really good glass you’ll get plenty of respect. If you want it to look bigger slap the grip in the bottom.

@@ChristopherMarshburn True for people that know about Camera lenses. That grip cost $150 ouch!!! that is a lot for a $25 piece of plastic.

No, that’s not a real cripple hammer at work lol The original A7C was a copy/paste of the A73 in a more compact body design. The A7C 2 follows suit and gives everything the A74 has plus some new features the A74 doesn’t have like the new AI features, etc. So they didn’t remove anything, they added to it. What this is-is market segmentation amongst the product line. Dynamic Active stabe is reserved to the ZV Creator lineup, and might make it to some other higher end models just because but anything that’d be a linear change isn’t getting it at the moment. So like I shared a couple of videos ago, the camera line is split between hybrid camera designs vs creator centric designed cameras, so with that comes slight different features. Which is why the new ZV mics also aren’t built into the new hybrid cameras.

Howdy @newshapeymani9119 I see you posted this question and another I saw but must be on a different video. I just responded to this in a video being edited now, but I'll reply here to still share my general thoughts on your questions. Yes, the 1.5x crop is the crop factor on Sony APS-C sensors. When in 4k 60p on the Sony A7C 2, it's not in full frame though, it's as if it's on the Sony a6700 being that it's at a 1.5x crop, similar to the Sony A74, since it uses that cameras sensor. Unless you enjoy the benefit of having that extra reach, it's not a benefit to the camera being a full frame camera, where others in it's price point don't have that handicap. Whereas on the a6700, being that it's already an APS-C sensor camera, there is no additional crops added onto that when you're shooting 4k 60p on that camera. So, if you pick up that camera and decided to switch from 4k 24p to 4k 60p, there's no change in your shooting experience. Whereas on the A7C 2, there is. You'd need to either account for the additional crop by swapping to a difference lens to gain back that space loss in the crop or zoom out if you're on a zoom lens, or back up physically to reclaim the space lost. For example, there's several times I've been backed into a corner for something like a birthday cake moment where you're trying to show the kid blowing out the candles type scenario. In some locations, there's a small corner of the room or ideal place to stand to get the shot you want. Switching to 4k 60p so I can slow it down on my ZV-E1 means I don't need to move, it's just a settings change. If I was on the A7C 2, I would need to be using a zoom lens to zoom out or back up if I'm on a prime lens, which I usually am. I note the difference in the video so folks are aware but in reality, it's only an issue if it'd be an issue for you in real life. If you won't use the 4k 60p that often, it's not a deal breaker. For most people, it's not that big of an issue for their intended use case.

@JordanPatton-vy2ho That's awesome! That depends on what kind of content you're planning to create and what you'd like to do in the future with your camera. These camera are similar in a lot of ways and depending on what you intend to do, you may experience very little difference between the two. So, to give you a recommendation, I'd had to know a bit more about what you intend to do with your camera.

@@DianaGladney just mainly photography

@@JordanPatton-vy2ho Gotcha! I only cover video on my channel and rarely take photos with my cameras. So, I can't honestly help you there because if there are quirks or differences taking photos with one over the other, I couldn't tell you. Plus, there are different wants and things to look for from they type of photography you're into. Street photographers will want/look for different featues than a landscape photographer for example. I'd recommend looking into a channel that has one or tried both of these cameras and does the kind of photography you're into and see what they say. Sorry I can't be of more help there.

My pleasure! To be fair, a great story and actually having something compelling in video or any photo based content is a given. Whether or not your gear is getting in your way and causing stutter steps and micro inefficiencies while you're creating is why certain features matter over others. While you're capturing the story, depending on what you're shooting, some moments can't be recreated, and for those that can the second take is usually less authentic and eats into time. So comparing camera features to storytelling isn't on trial lol it's getting the right tool for the job. Plus, I don't cover video from a filmmaker perspective so there's that lol

@kentao4 I think the a6700 would be the best in-between solution for everything you mentioned. The A7C2 is the A74, just in a different body design, so you'd be carrying around the same camera twice. Unless you just want a full-frame camera body, I don't think there's much to miss in actual real-life terms of quality or in performance. If you don't have a stand-out reason for why full frame is a no-brainer for you, the reasoning for choosing full frame doesn't exist for you, and there's nothing wrong with that. I've never picked up my APS-C cameras and wished they were full frame unless I didn't have the lenses I needed and I was in a 10% scenario where the extra space of FF would have been nice. Otherwise, it's not a massive difference for everyday use case scenarios. Something else to consider is your shooting style as well. You know how you personally like to work, which isn't listed on any spec sheet. When you look at how you normally shoot, if you don't see APS-C interrupting that flow, go for it. For choices like yours, you have to ignore more reasons why folks choose full frame over APS-C on KZfaq and some of the stuff folks say, especially when it's not relevant for your intended use case. If it'll work for you, that's all that matters and you'll forget all about the "what if's" as you create for yourself.

@@DianaGladney thanks. Already pulled the trigger. I think I like have both Apsc and full frame. Add some versatility to my adventures. Plus I’ll carry more with a small camera.

@@DianaGladney and I meant I have the a7rv!

Ah okay, nice!

When you go from Full Frame to APS-C mode, you do cut into the resolution and the flexibility in some areas are a bit less than if you natively just used an APS-C camera. That ability to crop in will be based on what you think will be best for you. For me, when trying something like the ZV-E10 vs the A7C Mark 1, I preferred just using the ZV-E10 because I'd rather already have the APS-C crop at full quality and get the extra reach when punching in. However, if you value having the full frame perspective and the ability to cut into APS-C mode, that's an option as well. But it's really no different than having access to Clear Image Zoom on any Sony camera and being able to punch in more than the sensors perspective. So, it's not exactly having two cameras in one because punching into APS-C mode, essentially 1.5x Clear Image Zoom type feat., you're not getting the full APS-C quality as if you'd just had an APS-C camera only.

Nice! So if the A7C 2 will be the go-to travel camera for ya what will you primarily use your A74 camera for?

@@DianaGladney I also have the Sony 200-600mm F5.6-6.3 G OSS that I use for wildlife. I had the A7C and tried to use it with that lens, and the grip didn't really work that well. With the A74 I have the two card slots and the bigger grip that I will use with that big lens. I currently have the Sony 24mm f1.4 GM and the Tamron 28-75mm f2.8 G2. These will really work okay with all these cameras. I am thinking about adding the Sony 70-200mm F4 G Macro (though I did hear about the new 70-180mm F2.8 from Tamron G2 version!) to round out the kit. I don't do any vlogging so I haven't needed anything wider than 24.

Ah okay, makes sense! The one benefit most Tamron lenses seems to always pull off is closer minimum focusing distance. So if the 70-180mm likely can get in closer. If so, Tamron does a really nice job with their lenses. I was looking at that lens just yesterday.

It’s an easy win for the a6700. Unless one just wants a full frame camera, but for a creator the a6700 easily wins between the two in nearly every category.

Thank you! I can’t really speak to the Canon cameras much anymore; I stopped following their progress a few years ago. Canon tends to do one thing well and then shoot themselves in the foot the next second lol So, they’re not my cup of tea any longer because they removed & blocked third party lens support for their RF line. So, if you aren’t bothered by the native glass only options or adapting older Canon lenses with AF, then I’d suggest considering your intended use case across the various models and seeing which one beats fills that void. I always recommend finding a creator that owns and regularly uses the camera you’re interested in and they’re doing the same kind of content you intend to with that camera model. Because a documentary filmmaker vs a content creation educator will have different needs and workflows that make one camera more ideal than the other and they’ll be able to identify what limitations or hiccups to expect in that use case.

That's really neat! I am definitely a manual exposure kind of girl, so I didn't even realize that feature was there. Completely overlooked it, thanks for sharing that! Now lol we know a firmware update on that definitely isn't going to happen lol Plus too, looking into this feature once you mentioned it, it seems one of those “segmented out” type features moving forward. It's also not on the ZV-E1 either despite it being close to the FX3, that does have it. They probably just figured folks wouldn't use it and they'd be mostly right lol It's been in other cameras but I never used it.

I’m in the same boat, looking to upgrade from my a73 as well. I’m between the 6700, 7iv, c, and cii. Do you feel like you miss full frame, and do you still think you made the right choice?

Yeah, it's not really an upgrade, just more of the A74 benefits in a smaller package than the A74. Which a lot of people wouldn't mind at all and being that new and used models will be a few hundred dollars cheaper than the A74 is what a lot of folks will be looking at. That and getting an updated, smaller full frame camera that can shoot 4k 24p and 4k 60p is still really valuable for those that need a second camera body and may already own something more expensive. So, when looking at the two cameras from that lens, it makes more sense to go A7C 2 vs a6700 even though it offers a little more.

Borrowed content from a fellow creator. If we don't get a camera when it first comes out we'll lean on content clips from fellow creators. We usually add a little note in the video of who that clip is from but it's not there for that one on this video.

Sharing is what makes the world go round! That's a great idea to credit them@@DianaGladney Same as the shot at 01.08. Maybe it's not too late to do that. Keep up the good work, I'm a fan of your videos. Thanks.

@@MetfieldFilms Yeah, I’ll have to see from my video editor but usually there’s the link in the video of who’s channel it’s from. I wish YT would let us add in little text updates like that but for this one an info card to the specific video is the best I can do since it’s already posted. Soon as I get the deets, I’ll link to the creator(s).

Facts! 💯

Thanks for the heads up! It definitely can't hurt and KZfaq indexes both, just depends on what it thinks may be of the best interest to the viewer. Thank you for the comment! 💯

Wow, those were the Sony legacy cameras. Sony has come a very long way since then in developing both the lineups.

Nice! That’ll be a super solid upgrade!

Here’s the real question though, are these people that own the camera more than 30 days that regularly used it or bought it to make an overheating video and went back to what they actually use? Literally happens for every camera release no matter how good a camera actually is. Gotta check the source. Some folks just chase some quick views on KZfaq. All cameras have a cut off point, so some of the convos happening online are from people that’d never actually use the camera, they’re just getting it for a quick few views and get their money back. Happens all the time lol Folks said the same thing about the ZV-1, a6400, and ZV-E10 and I used all those cameras and more regularly for years and never had an issue. The only recent camera from Sony with overly sensitive heating concerns is the ZV-E1, and as someone using it daily, it’s been fine. The rest of these cameras are fine. So, I plan to run my own tests to get the truth on these latest cameras cuz some folks just chasing views.

@@DianaGladney me too concern on overheating on a6700. im planning upgrade from zv-e10 to either a6700 or a7C II. im shooting street food video content. mostly 34c to 38c temperature in the afternoon in malaysia. i like the a6700 4k 120p but a7c II only have 4K 60p.

You're very welcome!

Yeah, that's an unfortunate reality with a ton of cameras these days when recording for either long periods of time or in higher frame rates for long periods of time unless the camera is larger or has a built in fan. I'll be glad when these days are behind us in the camera space again.

Yeah, if the a6700 didn't exist, it'd be much harder to pass on the A7C 2 BUT the a6700 brings it! I still really like what the A7C 2 offers, especially for those upgrading from the A7C or anything older because it's a massive update. If all they're doing is 4k 24p or 30p, the A7C 2 is still an easy go-to though. I really do want to see much more compact super wide creator friendly lenses for full frame though.

@@DianaGladney I have the A7Rv, A7C, and the A6700 (not keeping them all), but I plan on using my 1020pz with the FF cameras just use a touch of CIZ to remove the vignetting. You can make the glass work if you are deliberate.

I hear ya, it’d just be better to have it built for FF to avoid the extra steps.

Yeah, I think the A7C 2 will make a lot more people want those extra couple of features in a bigger body in the A74, but for others, they'd like that A74 package in a smaller body. I think most folks aren't sensor chasing but more which camera has the most bang for ya buck lol the a6700.

Both the a6700 and A7C 2 both have the EVF but is the rubber cover not included? Is that what you mean? Cuz if it is, I definitely missed hearing that tidbit. That'd be bizarre.

@@DianaGladney Well that is what I heard from others and you never see a photo when it has one. There is also the thing about the lower grip that the a7cr has that cost $150 for the a7cii, seem to me it should be a $50 part at most.

Hmm could be that folks just leave it off, which isn’t uncommon. If you wear glasses or depending on how you position the eyepiece it can be uncomfortable so it’s probably just left in the box like it always is.

When specifying if a camera has a crop or not in certain recording modes, isn't specifically noting if the sensor is cropped or not. That bit is already covered in the general specs. To an APS-C only shooter, they won't further calculate what a lens focal length is in comparison to full frame while actively shooting. They are only concerned if when they put on a 16 mm lens, for example, if they'll need to readjust in that recording mode because there's a crop. Adding an additional 1.5x on top of everything for the APS-C Sony cameras become irrelevant beyond a point. So, to an all APS-C shooter, as long as there's no additional crop while recording, the sensor crop vs something else is irrelevant when recording in real life.

@@DianaGladney Agreed. But saying there is no crop mode on a6700 when shooting 4k 60 is not an accurate statement. Should be "no additional" crop. Yes, it needs to be spelled out for the noobs. Seen a couple of other videos as well where youtubers are loosely saying "a6700 does not have crop on 4K 60"

@@Louie-ty6bh I get where you're coming from and it's worth considering adding in the clarification in future videos. So, I appreciate your comment.

To be honest, you have to step outside the frame of KZfaq hype and look at what you're realistically going to encounter. Because the folks that I know that regularly use cameras as creators aren't having issues using these cameras. People only getting these cameras for 30-days or less to see where the overheating limit on the camera is aren't the users to pay attention to because they aren't creating with the camera. Just something to consider.

@@DianaGladney Surely I will keep a track of what are the long term review ,I think for most contrived that are colder ,but where I live ,8months out of the year temperatures reach 45-50 degrees Celsius(even I overheat living here ;) So I can’t take a chance ,even if there is small chance

I'm curious, what kind of shooting are you doing in 4k 60p where you experience overheating?

@@DianaGladney I don't have an A6700 myself, so It's not my own experience. But I see a lot of reviews on KZfaq with overheating issues. Like Brandon Li who is shooting some slow motion with 60p and experiences overheating with the A6700. Also someone who was making slow motion during a wedding and has to wait before the camera cooled down. I don't like the idea having a feature on the camera that you only can use with care. Because you never know if it will overheat or not, so you can't use the camera anymore for a while. There are also a lot of vloggers who shoot everything in 60p, so they can slow down whenever they want. But if you don't use 60p or very sparingly, it's not an issue of course. 😃

The highest award known to man! lol

@@DianaGladney Yeah especially if the award that said that was made out of white chocolate! 😁

@@ianadams5 100%!!!! lol 😂😂😂😂

If the only purpose is photos, there's tons of older cameras that provide awesome quality. So, for photos, there's not much of an update. From a video perspective, even doing mostly talking head, there's a ton of updates that make it so much more valuable than the original A7C. Even traveling with both the original A7C last year and the ZV-E10 I went for the ZV-E10 9/10 over the A7C as a creator. So, it's really a slam dunk in a lot of ways for creators to choose the A7C 2 over the A7C Mark 1. Looking at differences on KZfaq is different than real life in person use and what that experience is really like.

Disagree! I have the A7C and I am looking at the a6700 for many reasons. Mainly videography. 10 bit 422 S-Cinetone AI chip Better auto-focus Front dial added Updated menu Better newer colour science Better grip Cheaper lenses 4k 60 no crop Dedicated photo-video switch Downsampled 6K to 4K A NO-BRAINER!

What makes it better for you, full frame aside. Curious to hear why.