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Sony A7iii and what (almost) no one is talking about

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By now you've probably heard about many of the things that make this camera great. But its magic is much more than the A7Sii's ISO power or the A9's focus system. We dive into the details about why this camera is one of Sony's biggest releases. *All prices mentioned in video are in Canadian Dollars*
Jason Lanier A7iii review: • Sony A7iii- REAL World...

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@MBearr1221
@MBearr1221 6 жыл бұрын
*Says joystick is useless & redundant *Wears beanie & hoodie WHILE indoors
@DriversSide
@DriversSide 4 жыл бұрын
MBearr1221 I lol’d at this😂
@arrowgaming1175
@arrowgaming1175 4 жыл бұрын
Sony fanboy spotted
@treedeblue
@treedeblue 4 жыл бұрын
Haha good point the camera cool dude look wearing a beanie to bed
@philipbloom
@philipbloom 6 жыл бұрын
so what was the feature that (almost) no one is talking about?
@vistek
@vistek 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Philip, honest question. I felt as though every review talked extensively about the ISO and Focus (which I admittingly also talked about, because how could you not), but didn't talk at all about design, or about the things that still weren't great. Yes, the design is identical to that of the A7R3, but if that camera didn't interest the viewer, then this would be their first experience with the re-design. So, my pitch was "at this price point" here are the things that matter most to me - and that most people seem to be glossing over or not addressing at all. - D
@philipbloom
@philipbloom 6 жыл бұрын
Vistek | Your Visual Imaging Experts ok cool. Good overview!
@v-22
@v-22 6 жыл бұрын
Vistek | Your Visual Imaging Experts Click-bait title, dude, just admit it.
@babenkoff
@babenkoff 6 жыл бұрын
clickbait
@Sour75
@Sour75 6 жыл бұрын
Haha. Good vid, but yes, a little click-baitey. :)
@ShahmeerAbbasOfficial
@ShahmeerAbbasOfficial 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome review I'm going to buy this camera
@BennoSattler
@BennoSattler 6 жыл бұрын
No recording limit after patch - I used it on three different ones, works like a charm. it is actually just an app (just like "sony remote") to be installed (and, at choice, deleted) on the cam. The patch is called "Open Memories Tweak"
@mdc35
@mdc35 3 жыл бұрын
i thought this dude was gonna start rhyming in the beginning.
@mariocarranza573
@mariocarranza573 5 жыл бұрын
Great video and very useful for those of us who are about to buy a Sony a7 III.
@mariocarranza573
@mariocarranza573 6 жыл бұрын
I am researching out the Sony a7III and felt you did a good job of your review. Thanks, it really helped.
@vistek
@vistek 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mario! I really appreciate the kind words.
@fayloyan
@fayloyan 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this great video. I love the analogy of "stealing carrots in the middle of the night" on the high ISO hahaha
@vistek
@vistek 6 жыл бұрын
I honestly can't think of another justifiable use for the 100,000 ISO.
@hussainalqadhi1198
@hussainalqadhi1198 6 жыл бұрын
Great review ! don't let anyone put you down ! this was very informative for me (trying to decide between A7R3 and A73) Thank you !
@vistek
@vistek 6 жыл бұрын
Thank You Hussain! When you're a KZfaqr you have to have a thick skin and be ok with the open criticism. I super appreciate the nice comments when I get them. Thank you again!
@BrokeSpaceLaser
@BrokeSpaceLaser 6 жыл бұрын
Hussain BH hey what did you end up choosing? I’m trying to decide between them as well. (Wildlife and astrophotography)
@saadazzahrani
@saadazzahrani 5 жыл бұрын
@@BrokeSpaceLaser Definitely A7iii and maybe get an APS-C body (a6400) for wild life.
@zemanns
@zemanns 5 жыл бұрын
Saad Azzahrani You dont need apsc if You hsve this full frame with crop option in this model, You have two in one and silent mode to wildlife as well.
@alexworks9659
@alexworks9659 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Great review and the low light iso comparison. I just want the 6D tilty, flippy screen on it! Honestly, your review just might tip me over to the dark side.
@NosUnlimited
@NosUnlimited 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! I love the fact that you did address the build aspects. One of the things I discovered while going about and trying out some of the a7 series in store, was that the a7rii compared to the a7 has a better grip (a7iii has continued that too which is good). I still shoot on my a65 from 2012 and I love the solid grip that it provides, and it is not something I would want to sacrifice in upgrading to a mirrorless camera (for the price at least).
@HuongNguyen25
@HuongNguyen25 6 жыл бұрын
thanks for this awesome overview. I've been debating upgrading to the A7iii, and this video just sealed the deal! can't wait to play with all the awesome features now. :)
@vistek
@vistek 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Huong!
@bala1000mina
@bala1000mina 4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much Dale, Helpful and informative review! God bless and good luck!
@vistek
@vistek 4 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@nicholassmith5611
@nicholassmith5611 5 жыл бұрын
Stellar camera. I upgraded from an a7R to the a7iii and im really pleased. Adapting canon glass with my metabonez mk4 t is a dream (i hear its even better with the sigma mc-11). Focus is now so much more intelligent. One thing I wish I could do is set mode / settings defaults for video and photo separately (Picture Profile settings and focus mode in particular). I shoot both photos and video from photo mode, and have issues with the focus mode from time to time. Iʻd also like it if pressing the record button could pop a picture profile on just for the shooting of that clip, and return to default for taking photos.
@Ballistichydrant
@Ballistichydrant 6 жыл бұрын
I have the a9 and to be honest I'm happy with the touch screen as is. On my product shooting camera it has full touch and I accidentally change camera setting all the time and it isn't awesome. Even when the camera is in my bag, if it gets bumped and wakes up then the bag starts changing the camera setting as I'm walking or running around. Know what I mean? So I'm totally cool with the lack of touch options on my s9
@gilly.visuals
@gilly.visuals 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome thanks for the review deff picking one up. still on the fence about 16-35 GM or 24-70 GM
@vistek
@vistek 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gilly V!
@rezakeshavarzi9894
@rezakeshavarzi9894 5 жыл бұрын
Thank for the awesome review bro
@jonathanmorando5240
@jonathanmorando5240 6 жыл бұрын
that hand grip part had me on the edge of my seat was just to hard to watch lol
@vistek
@vistek 6 жыл бұрын
My goal is to keep people on the edge of their seat. :)
@angelocincotta2988
@angelocincotta2988 6 жыл бұрын
I have carried both my a7s and my a6000 like that from day 1. I have big hands too and the fingers just sit perfectly on the hand grip, never dropped one YET !!!!!
@videojay
@videojay 5 жыл бұрын
Did you watch the last 5 seconds? Unnecessary anxiety inducing end to the video!
@remendrapradhan6138
@remendrapradhan6138 6 жыл бұрын
watched Like 100 Videos on this but you nicely pointed out the things. Very Nice and smooth talk.
@vistek
@vistek 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Remen! Really appreciate the comment!
@AllenFreemanMediaGuru
@AllenFreemanMediaGuru 6 жыл бұрын
I’m still glad I got the A7Riii (got the A7Rii 2 years ago). I’m used to 42mp and couldn’t ever go back to 24. I plan to be happy with it for a few year ahead. I loved the A7Rii, but this is a nice improvement.
@darrylpanchyson4201
@darrylpanchyson4201 6 жыл бұрын
? You don't need a joystick? I didn't move to sony until they added it. The old method of moving the focus point was awful for fast events...
@vistek
@vistek 6 жыл бұрын
I've never needed one, but that's just me. Not everyone shoots like me.
@dmacrolens
@dmacrolens 6 жыл бұрын
lolololol
@jayount
@jayount 6 жыл бұрын
A7 III has touch screen focus now, why use the joystick?
@charles98423
@charles98423 6 жыл бұрын
Joystick is really not a must. 1 good center focus point is just work fine even for 95% of time with some focusing skill.
@iDealMedley
@iDealMedley 4 жыл бұрын
Touchscreen will replace joystick
@IguanaFilmArts
@IguanaFilmArts 6 жыл бұрын
Very clearly articulated and argued review man, well done.
@vistek
@vistek 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Iguana Divergent! Appreciate the comment!
@BrettL250
@BrettL250 6 жыл бұрын
I’m new to the camera word. Great video. Thanks for all the information.
@vistek
@vistek 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brett! Super appreciate the comment!
@keeblerhunts
@keeblerhunts 6 жыл бұрын
Fighting so hard with this decision, but still leaning towards the A9 because I shoot wildlife mostly. It seems the buffer and fast fps will be a huge factor with the power of the stacked sensor. BUT the feature set of this A7III for the price point is ridiculously fantastic. I played with both the A7III and A9 at a local camera store. The no blackout feature of the A9 along with the crazy fast fps provided a different shooting experience. Honestly though, both are fantastic cameras.
@MyMomSaysImSmart
@MyMomSaysImSmart 6 жыл бұрын
keeblerhunts Focus system in the a9 polls the sensor 60 times per second. The a7iii 20 times per second. If you’re tracking fast action, the focus systems are Not the same. They just have the same focus Sensors and processor.
@joeyacee5592
@joeyacee5592 6 жыл бұрын
Really great review helped me clear up a lot of the differences between the new and old models. Seems they are transitioning into more of a traditional DSLR body than a mirror less. I'm really excited for the new grip. Seriously debating the III.
@vistek
@vistek 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Joey, really appreciate the comment!
@sacramentovillicana8015
@sacramentovillicana8015 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the low light test I really appreciate it most people do a iso test in the middle of the day and make no sense to me.
@vistek
@vistek 6 жыл бұрын
Really? You've seen videos of people doing high ISO tests in daylight? Hmmmmmmm.
@JeffMurphy
@JeffMurphy 6 жыл бұрын
Covered quite a few small quriks that I haven't seen in other reviews. Solid!
@vistek
@vistek 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jeffery! That was my goal - since I didn't want to just re-hash what everyone else was saying.
@Ifilmshiz
@Ifilmshiz 6 жыл бұрын
Hi, Thanks for the great video i just have a question, the a6500 1080 video looked rubbish i want to know how the a7iii compares for 1080p quality to something like a7sii is it any good? Thanks
@fritz9880
@fritz9880 6 жыл бұрын
Good observations. I hope that Sony is listening to your suggestions. Also, your sample photos were well done!
@vistek
@vistek 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Fritz! Really appreciate it!
@seapanther53
@seapanther53 6 жыл бұрын
From my understanding Sony didn't add a joystick bc other cameras had them, rather they added it bc their consumers wanted it. Sony is great at listening to their consumers and adjusting their products to meet their needs, which is another reason people are switching from canon and Nikon. Also the same consumers want dials and buttons to be able to adjust setting on the fly without having to look at the screen or go through menu option settings each time. Would setting adjustments via gestures have been a nice add-on? Meh maybe? But definitely not in replacement of physical dials. Car companies learned this lesson as consumers at first thought full touch screens were a cool idea bc they were the latest and greatest thing. However, in reality people hated having certain dials and buttons eliminated bc they could no longer reach, feel, and adjust, they had to look (take eyes of road), focus (on the screen not the road), and adjust. I personally like my high end camera to feel like a camera not a point and shoot. Opinions?
@vistek
@vistek 6 жыл бұрын
Great points Sea Panther. Thanks for the comment.
@101realtor
@101realtor 6 жыл бұрын
Previous jog wheel/stick didn’t move the focus around unless you mapped a key to press first, then move the point, then set it...was a pain when changing it often and if you accidentally clicked one of he sides then there you go changing iso it one of the other functions...I’ve had lots of find with this lol
@nikos-giorgos
@nikos-giorgos 6 жыл бұрын
Sea Panther "Sony is great at listening at their customers"? Really?Took them years to implement a semifunctional touch screen! Only on a few cameras of course! How about articulating screen? Nope! Functional menu? Nope! Lenses much? Nope! That's Sony...
@phongy
@phongy 6 жыл бұрын
I can agree on most of those points but will disagree on the lenses, Sony has introduced a ton of lenses in the last three years
@Blockbuster2033
@Blockbuster2033 6 жыл бұрын
Sea Panther well, I kinda agree with everyone here. Personally I can live without a touchscreen, however the menu system is something that I can't imagine how it can be so hard to just reorganise. I'd even be fine with the old menu system that we had from the a7 and a6000 till the a7rii, if they'd just reorganised the functions and grouped for example focus setting together. The next big complaint I have is also the hdmi port, they should at least put a mini-hdmi port, instead of that micro-hdmi port, I've already killed about five or so hdmi cables on that stupid port. And then there are the buttons. I used a friend's canon 1dsiii a while back for an event shooting and after switching back to the a7 series those sony cameras felt like 20$ toys. The buttons are mushy, the dials don't really click. Now I wanted to get started on the video features, but then I realized, that there are cameras like the fs5 and fs7 :D. However, I think sony could blow all of their competition out of the universe, if they'd release the fs5 with a dci 4k full frame size bsi sensor and ibis and good autofocus (the one from the a7rii or so), even while keeping everything else the same (codec, body, etc.). And I'm fairly confident they could do it for less than 10k$, although they wouldn't, because pro-video-cam-market haha. Cheers
@UrbanSelfSufficiency
@UrbanSelfSufficiency 6 жыл бұрын
Good objective review, thanks.
@vistek
@vistek 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you USS!
@amitkrupal1234
@amitkrupal1234 6 жыл бұрын
Honest review, I love it.
@vistek
@vistek 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Amit! Really appreciate the comment!!
@DarlingtonFootballClub
@DarlingtonFootballClub 6 жыл бұрын
The 30 minute record thing is to do with a rule in the EU (and possibly) other countries where going over that would class it as a camcorder. That would add, as you rightly point out, taxes etc on the camera. The EU rule I believe expires next year and may not be renewed so potentially the 30 minute thing might come to and end soon. I really hope so.
@GudieveNing
@GudieveNing 6 жыл бұрын
Darlington Football Club Which is one of the reasons why Brits voted out.
@MyMomSaysImSmart
@MyMomSaysImSmart 6 жыл бұрын
Well that would be fantastic. Especially if they lifted the limit with a firmware update.
@asnowboards1
@asnowboards1 6 жыл бұрын
Yup - exactly right. Here is the FujiRumors article about it: www.fujirumors.com/yes-eu-import-duty-reason-fujifilm-x-h1-limited-30-minutes-will-change-2018-2019/
@ChristopheCousinOSS117
@ChristopheCousinOSS117 5 жыл бұрын
EU is the kindom of tax !
@aaron-bieber
@aaron-bieber 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure that is also a rule in the US, and I don't know how much the tax is, but I'm not sure if I would want to pay significantly more for this camera so that it could record more than 30 minutes of video if I meant to use it for, you know, taking pictures, which used to be the primary purpose of all cameras but these days who knows.
@Devonvp
@Devonvp 6 жыл бұрын
Do you not have a heater?
@nurbsenvi
@nurbsenvi 6 жыл бұрын
Devon VP I think it’s part of withdrawal syndrome of cocaine
@KingCast65
@KingCast65 6 жыл бұрын
Negative guys. Keep a positive outlook for Pete's sake he's a fan of Christian Löffler: Seriously he looks just like him! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jrR6h7l9q9XYomQ.html
@pacman1789
@pacman1789 6 жыл бұрын
A Google User He's wearing a beanie under the hoodie. I think it's more for comfort and aesthetics.
@PhilipribasMusic
@PhilipribasMusic 5 жыл бұрын
Good video but Clickbait
@VoodoodiamondBand
@VoodoodiamondBand 5 жыл бұрын
hahahahahahahhahaha Oh man I laughed so hard with this comment!!!
@michaelscoots
@michaelscoots 5 жыл бұрын
What I like most about Dale is not the professional review but that he didn't take the bait of all the negative commenters. Just subscribed to his IG for that reason alone; bonus is he's got nice work too!
@vistek
@vistek 5 жыл бұрын
Michael, you're a good man. Thank you!!!
@michaelscoots
@michaelscoots 5 жыл бұрын
Takes one to know one :)
@nussberger
@nussberger 6 жыл бұрын
Great review. Thanks!
@vistek
@vistek 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Gregor!
@AlexTimelapse
@AlexTimelapse 6 жыл бұрын
S&Q in 4k, another downside i found on the a73 and a7r3, PLEASE SONY you can do it! Great review video!
@benoitpeeters7511
@benoitpeeters7511 6 жыл бұрын
Camera can be great,.... but the lenses price.... seriously.... prohibitive!
@NL0Gwenster
@NL0Gwenster 6 жыл бұрын
Yep. Just for shits & giggles i checked what would happen if i sold my D810 and go with a A7R3 (i need those extra MPs for detailed/dense Tokyo Urbanscapes) - but to get my most used lenses in Sony format ? 14-24/2.8, 70-200/2.8 - 50/1.2
@WargodFilms
@WargodFilms 5 жыл бұрын
@We McLaughlins like sigma and tamaron best thing about this is you can use your old apc lens until you can afford a full frame lense yes you will only be using half of the sensor doing this but it gets the job done if your working on a budget.
@snowcatxx87
@snowcatxx87 6 жыл бұрын
Which Vistek is this filmed out of? Calgary?
@mariolafreniere4538
@mariolafreniere4538 6 жыл бұрын
Nice review, i can’t wait to get it and finally see and feel the hype. I did pre-order from you guys when it was announced, I’m with the Canon 80D ATM and I’m sure it will take some time to fully know and be comfortable with the A7III. I would not complain is it was released earlier. LOL Again I liked your point of view on the A7 III, keep up the good work.
@vistek
@vistek 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mario, really appreciate the comment!
@BenBezuidenhout
@BenBezuidenhout 6 жыл бұрын
Nice review thanks
@vistek
@vistek 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ben!
@byProvings
@byProvings 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank you :)
@vistek
@vistek 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Tom!
@ajoysuresh6290
@ajoysuresh6290 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome Vid Manh... Love from India.
@vistek
@vistek 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ajoy! Appreciate the comment!
@Pharesm
@Pharesm 6 жыл бұрын
Very nice review - and A for effort doing all this having only 24 hours with the camera :)
@vistek
@vistek 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Builder! I really appreciate it. Glad someone could understand the constraints of what I was trying to accomplish.
@johnsmith1474
@johnsmith1474 6 жыл бұрын
Just stopped by after Northrup, I see why he has only 7k subscribers. Halfway in - seeya.
@lexlexington5864
@lexlexington5864 6 жыл бұрын
For slo mo frame rates on Sony cameras, setup the 1&2 on the dial. Works great for me, it's a turn of the dial to get to my custom settings.
@vistek
@vistek 6 жыл бұрын
I do something very similar on the GH4/5. Works great. Thanks for you comment Lex!
@adamdoomsmediallc2596
@adamdoomsmediallc2596 6 жыл бұрын
Killer review! Subscribed! Still will do video with my gh5 for the 4k60fps, I wish Sony could do 60fps in higher than 1080p
@vistek
@vistek 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Adam. Thank you very much! I agree - but I think that's asking a lot from a full frame sensor in a mirrorless. You'd basically melt the camera if they enabled that. 60pfs @4K is easy to do from a micro 4/3 without overheating.
@ibaadofnaqvi
@ibaadofnaqvi 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. Do you recommend sony a7III for fashion and editorial shoots? Syncing it with strobes and flashes ?
@vistek
@vistek 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ibaadof. I will let the community answer this - or perhaps ask the Google this question. I haven't had an opportunity to use it with strobes. Though, I can't see what it won't work as well as any other new camera.
@jakeworld3
@jakeworld3 6 жыл бұрын
Great review. I am now a subscriber. Can you recommend an excellent all around lens for a casual (not even prosumer) user that is less than $1,000? Would prefer to have some zoom capability but also don’t want to compromise sharpness. Thanks.
@vistek
@vistek 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Jake - thank you for subscribing and the great comment. I might leave it to community to answer your question, but a 24-105 ( i think that's the range) f4 is a good all arounder when you consider how good the low light on the camera is (so you can afford the 1 stop loss over the 2.8 lenses). I'm not sure the price though.
@TheLdoubleE
@TheLdoubleE 6 жыл бұрын
I'm drooling and crying at the same time. I need two grands.
@artmaltman
@artmaltman 6 жыл бұрын
Very perceptive review. One thing to bear in mind is that high ISO tests in good light are not a true test of how the camera will behave in lower light. It looks to me like you did test lower light but I'm not sure. Also my Nikon D750 24mp is also pretty clean at ISO 6400 so it sounds like Sony is playing catch-up there. Ultimately though this review pointed out some things I had not noticed as I consider adding Sony FF to my system. Thanks for doing this!
@vistek
@vistek 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Art! Very much appreciate the thorough comment!
@phillipbarlow823
@phillipbarlow823 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video thanks. By the way what’s the beanie?
@djjimphilips
@djjimphilips 6 жыл бұрын
could you do a comparison between the a7iii and Canon's 1DXii and explain what the extra $3700 for the 1DX buys you?
@TheEjuiceReviews
@TheEjuiceReviews 5 жыл бұрын
Regarding the 30 minute time limit and why most cameras have it. Back in 2006, the EU controversially decided to classify high-end digital cameras as video recorders, which attached a customs duty of 5-12% for digital cameras imported into Europe. The classification was decided not just based on digital cameras' improving abilities to record video through its lens and sensor, but their ability to record direct input from external sources like televisions. A home video recorder tax would theoretically offset money lost from users recording movies off broadcast television or cable onto digital devices, though the EU has never been very clear on the tax's intent. The tax's consequence, though, has been felt in every digital camera user looking to use a DSLR in place of a camcorder, as camera manufactures would rather limit recording capability in software than raise the price of its cameras. So any camera that goes beyond 30 minutes we are paying extra money for the privilege.
@obikenobi1906
@obikenobi1906 6 жыл бұрын
Good overview...agreed - the design features make sense :)
@vistek
@vistek 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Obi. May the force be with you.
@aaronlojewski6819
@aaronlojewski6819 6 жыл бұрын
Semi quote "You aren't going to use the 100,000 ISO unless you are trying to catch the guy who is stealing your carrots in the middle of the night." LOL
@formattester6
@formattester6 6 жыл бұрын
im really curious how good 1080 60fps is? since this doesnt do 60fps @ 4k there are scenarios where id like a good slo mo but i dont find the 120fps accecptable since this typically looks soft an "all" cameras out there.
@salemschooldistrictmediase5793
@salemschooldistrictmediase5793 5 жыл бұрын
So agree about the micro HDMI connections!
@vistek
@vistek 5 жыл бұрын
Haha. Thanks SSDMS. I appreciate the support :)
@Tony-rn8on
@Tony-rn8on 5 жыл бұрын
great review!
@vistek
@vistek 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks AV Life!
@ElPescadoMan
@ElPescadoMan 6 жыл бұрын
A7iii or a7iii? Without thinking about the price? And what would be the first lens I should buy with either of them?
@stephenscharf6293
@stephenscharf6293 6 жыл бұрын
Dale, this is one of the best assessments I've seen of the A7III to date. I've watched a lot of the Vistek teams videos and I really like the Vistek teams' down-to-earth, practical, transparent, honest, and accurate reviews. I get so tired of Manufacturer-spiff/affiliate-link incentive driven, fan-boy KZfaq videos that just recite the spec sheet back to me that I could scream. I've got some questions for you to consider when you get one for real to test longer term: 1) how is the weather resistance on the A7III? Both Imaging Resource and Roger Cicala at LensRentals have demonstrated, to put it mildly, that the weather resistance of the A7RIII leaves *a lot to be desired*, and that bottom plate of the A7RIII has no weather sealing at all, so if you carry your camera around in the rain on a Black Rapid strap with the bottom plate exposed, you're going to be in a lot of trouble. Also, and this is likely more relevant to stills photography than video, but do you know if Sony has strengthened/stiffended the frame to be able to accomodate long, HEAVY, fast telephoto primes like the forthcoming Sony G Master 400 f/2.8? I've seen virtually nothing about this point, and I have considerable concerns that the lens mount is stiff and strong enough to support a torsional load like this. The reason Fuji made the body on the X-H1 larger and considerably thicker, stronger and stiffer, especially around the lens mount area, was to be able to securely and safely mount long, heavy fast telephoto primes, like their to-be released 200mm f/2.0. They even published an engineering white paper about it. I've seen nothing along these lines from Sony.
@vistek
@vistek 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Stephen! Thanks for your comments! I'd love to be able to test cameras longer, and do weather sealed tests, but I'll likely never be given that opportunity. At least in the same way that that LPTG can do. But, I'm always dubious of mirrorless manufacturers who claim their products are fully weather sealed. You get what you pay for and there also seems to be a lot of parts, which make me suspicious of how well all off that can be sealed. As for the lenses - I have no additional knowledge to share beyond what you already know. I'm often kept in the dark like everyone else, until something lands on my desk (like the A73) and the company is like "here - review this. You have 24 hours." That said, I don't really demand robust mounts for still lenses. This is generally only an issue with big cine lenses, which is why Sony developed the locking E-Mount on their FS7 Mk2. For everything else, it's just assumed you lock the tripod to your lens, not the camera - and the camera's are so light it literally makes zero difference. Thoughts?
@stephenscharf6293
@stephenscharf6293 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Dale, thanks for your reply. To be clear, none of the manufacturers claim that their cameras are weather-sealed, they claim they are "weather-resistant." For example, Canon specifies that their pro 1D-series bodies will withstand a Class 7 rainstorm. The question is a practically significant one rather than a "statistically significant" one: Sony claims the camera is "weather resistant" but suffered significant ingress of water in the Imaging Resource tests. The Olympus OM-D E-M1II by contrast, did not. Also, Roger Cicala has a teardown article on the Sony A7RIII that demonstrates no weather-resistance seals on the bottom deck, hence his concerns. Regarding stiffening of camera frames, I am thinking more of use scenarios for stils sports/racing photojournalism (I do pro motorsports photojournalism, to provide you with some context), where very long, heavy fast prime telephotos need to be mounted safely and securely, in addition to the mounting maintaining the requisite very small optical tolerances. Fuji addressed this specifically by re-engineering the X-H1's frame to be 2X as strong and significantly stiffer (with respect to tension loads) than the X-T2's so as to be able to mount a lens e.g. their forthcoming 200mm f/2.0, which will be long and heavy, along the lines of a Canon 300/2.8. They described the engineering they did to meet these requirements by publishing an engineeirng white paper on the subject. To date, I've seen virtually nothing similar about this from Sony. The A7III body looks to be exactly the same with respect to strength/stiffness as the A7II body. Bottom line: I just don't trust Sony; they have an established track record of cameras and lenses that have significant failure modes from not thinking things through thoroughly and rushing products to market.
@martinbryan137
@martinbryan137 5 жыл бұрын
I'm definitely going to get this... im just worried about mirrorless... im clumsy :(
@bianchirider....neverendin8532
@bianchirider....neverendin8532 2 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@glenntrav
@glenntrav 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your review. Will be watching more. Keep up the great work. One suggestion - Listen to one of Jason Lanier's videos so that you know how to pronounce his last name properly.
@vistek
@vistek 6 жыл бұрын
Jason likes it when I pronounce his name like that. I do it for him.
@gerdstuemer2181
@gerdstuemer2181 6 жыл бұрын
The 29:59 Limit is not because they want to sell their video cameras. Its because a video camera in Europe costs import tax and a photo camera doesn't. The spec they decide if it is a video camera or not is if it can record 30 min of video in one.
@Tempest261
@Tempest261 6 жыл бұрын
Doesn't Canon just close the file and automatically open a new one (without dropping a frame)? That's my understanding at least. Seems like a viable workaround- why can't Sony do the same thing?
@mattdebyl8806
@mattdebyl8806 6 жыл бұрын
Canon do that for spanning files exceeding 4GB, not for exceeding 30mins. One is a limit on file sizes using FAT32, the other has to do with EU import tariffs. PS Sony do spanning files, but for anything using XAVC-S they insist on using ExFAT cards which don't have a 4GB file limit (and therefore don't have to span).
@minusinfinity6974
@minusinfinity6974 6 жыл бұрын
Yes EU bureaucrats are morons!
@gerardferry3958
@gerardferry3958 6 жыл бұрын
reason for 30 minutes is to pay less tax its classed as a stills camera
@User-pq2yn
@User-pq2yn 4 жыл бұрын
Then why didn’t they provide for the possibility of removing this restriction using firmware, such as in the a6400?
@ravichander479
@ravichander479 5 жыл бұрын
good video and info iam a nikon shooter but now iam going to buy a sony a7iii
@Tloopfan
@Tloopfan 6 жыл бұрын
What a great review for the Sony a7III. The best improvement is the focus point toggle. The wheel changed settings if you hit it wrong causing some very important missed shots. Alas, I will not be getting this camera because of the "not" improved lcd screen. My Nikon has the same type (fold up or down). My Oly has the very versatile swing out lcd which I find so handy when shooting in portrait mode. And as far as the touch screen goes, I never use it. I prefer my more accurate dials.
@vistek
@vistek 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Tloopfan!
@jamestiller
@jamestiller 6 жыл бұрын
$2,000 price and the 30 minute video cutoff thing is because it is primarily a photo camera with video capabilities. Different regulations for video cameras. I believe Canons are set to stop at 29 minutes at 59 seconds of continuos video. Good vid. Keep them coming.
@vistek
@vistek 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you JD T!
@chrislfm
@chrislfm 6 жыл бұрын
Was the 120fps clip with aliasing shot at the full frame setting or the super 35 crop setting? In another video I’ve seen by Max Yuryev the full frame image had less aliasing than the super 35 crop mode.
@seangillespie4601
@seangillespie4601 5 жыл бұрын
Looking for a Sony Alpha full frame. I shoot video, stills, and astro. All in equal parts. Must I choose? Thanks.
@darkshaman7087
@darkshaman7087 4 жыл бұрын
I was going to buy one of these a7 iii but I heard some people having trouble with the shutters not working after being used for a while so I’m stuck what to buy as lots of cameras I have read up on have had problems with them
@democritus37
@democritus37 6 жыл бұрын
misleading title, but great review nonetheless! Thanks. Now really not sure whether I should pull the trigger on this or wait for the A7s3 whenever that drops. Both would be a big upgrade from my 80d (pricewise too!). Not tempted by the GH5 - being a one-man operation, I need need need good/reliable autofocus.
@mosesfleetwoodwalker
@mosesfleetwoodwalker 6 жыл бұрын
Great Vid! What's the over/under that you got the Lanier flip on the first try? hahaha
@vistek
@vistek 6 жыл бұрын
I'm 100%. I've been flipping cameras and lenses for years and I haven't dropped one. Yet....
@gc8421
@gc8421 6 жыл бұрын
The 30 min record limitation is due to taxation in some countries and is based around the class of equipment being a photographic camera vs a dedicated camcorder which is my understanding at least, so on a global scale it helps that this is so the equipment is the same through the global comunity.
@dancingsid
@dancingsid 6 жыл бұрын
Overall I thank you for your review, and pulled a lot of data from it while making my decision on which camera to choose in the future. One bit of constructive criticism, I think you hit spot on why Sony (and probably some other manufacturers) don't throw every video feature imaginable into their still image camera, and that's because it's a still image camera. I find it irritating when I read video camera reviews and they complain about still image quality, and visa versa on still image camera reviews when they complain about video performance. Nobody should expect a motorcycle experience when they buy a car, the same as nobody should expect a video camera experience when they buy a still image camera. Sorry to complain, but ...
@vistek
@vistek 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Very good point, Sid. Thanks for taking the time to express this!
@bmkq2007
@bmkq2007 6 жыл бұрын
there is a reason for 30 min recording by the way and this reason applies for all cameras if you noticed, there is a law in which if you increased the limit it will be considered a production gear, something like that, which it will increase some taxes and some other fees which then consumers will find it hard to buy
@deeferan7467
@deeferan7467 6 жыл бұрын
How about if you put those additional upright Battery will it prolong the recording video?
@amdenis
@amdenis 6 жыл бұрын
Oh, I know, I know-- it is a thin camera strap, which can double as a hoodie tie (or did someone else already say that?)
@johnsaikia8338
@johnsaikia8338 6 жыл бұрын
thanks 4 d video .......can i use flash on a7iii in electronic silent shutter mode.....tnks
@Marticulate
@Marticulate 6 жыл бұрын
I wish Sony and every other camera manufacturer would just add an articulating flip screen like the GH5. They're so versatile.
@jamesmcintoshjr
@jamesmcintoshjr 6 жыл бұрын
Will you guys have a demo unit in store before april 11th? Would love to come in and check one out to see if I'm going to "upgrade" from my A7SII.
@vistek
@vistek 6 жыл бұрын
Hi James. Sony couldn't confirm that with me, but they did say that it is currently in our Mississauga store until EOD tomorrow (March 17th).
@alexanderhendrickson2522
@alexanderhendrickson2522 6 жыл бұрын
Where is everyone getting these cameras ahead of release? It's not just the big review sites, it's TONS of KZfaqrs...
@tysonator5433
@tysonator5433 6 жыл бұрын
The 30min video recording time I think has some issue to do with tax. As Nikon i believe also have a 29min limit.
@1028Will
@1028Will 6 жыл бұрын
Oh gosh that joystick is one of the most lovely features in the 3rd generation. Changing focus points in the older generations is such a pain. It's true you can quickly change AF points on touch screen in the 3rd generation, but when my eye is pressed against the viewfinder, I don't want my thumb to constantly rub my nose!
@NTSCER
@NTSCER 6 жыл бұрын
How many minutes of 4K video will fit on a 32gb card with the Sony A7 iii ?
@anaphylaxis2548
@anaphylaxis2548 6 жыл бұрын
Good review overall. This looks like a great camera, probably my next one. I don’t get why people complain about the video performance of these cameras. They can shoot video, but if you’re needing professional video performance why wouldn’t you buy a video camera?
@vistek
@vistek 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Janet - thanks so much for your comment. I agree with you, mostly. It's seems however that because people are achieving such great results with mirrorless cameras we are becoming more spoiled over all. I also caution you from judging the pulse of consumers by the rhetoric in KZfaq comments. In reality there is a time and a place for every type of product. No one product is perfect, and there are always sacrifices to be made - like compression, or functionality for example. This is why simply judging on picture quality isn't the best course of action because there is considerably more to the story. I think you will find that most high-frequency users or professionals know this, but they simply don't find any need to share their opinion on YT or other social media comment forums. Thanks again! - D
@tropicallife4449
@tropicallife4449 6 жыл бұрын
My main concern is being able to monitor and operate the camera remotely. I can do it for stills on my A6000 using the PlayMemories APP, but I hear that Sony is not making the A7III compatible with PlayMemories. Have you heard anything about this?
@drewkocak
@drewkocak 6 жыл бұрын
How did you (and some other people) get the camera before it’s out??
@vistek
@vistek 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Drew, our Sony rep dropped it off for me to try for two days after the camera was announced. People like Jason Lanier are Sony artisans and get to test these products well ahead of launch.
@villain562
@villain562 6 жыл бұрын
Very useful video. Please could you tell me the h264 settings for KZfaq? I had some problem with a sweatshirt like yours with same color, a lot of video noise on shadows. Thanks
@vistek
@vistek 6 жыл бұрын
No idea. Probably around 18mbps (guess). Me talking to camera was shot on my GH4 with a very dodgy Russian lens from the 1960s. Why? Because it doesn't matter.
@villain562
@villain562 6 жыл бұрын
thank you. sorry, what doesn't matter?
@cre8tivity06
@cre8tivity06 6 жыл бұрын
I created a custom button on my a6500 for the Record Start and Stop on the rear of the camera. I didn't like the corner button either.
@cheaptravelingtrev
@cheaptravelingtrev 6 жыл бұрын
I’m mostly interested in video, and am deciding between the gh5 and this a7 iii, any advice on which way to go?
@RodWash
@RodWash 6 жыл бұрын
Cheap Traveling Trev. For Video GH5 Is Good With 4K At 60 And 30 Fps. And Have 10bit Rate.
@corneliusdobeneck4081
@corneliusdobeneck4081 6 жыл бұрын
A guy from Panasonic once told me that the record limit does actually refer to taxes because cameras that shot 30min+ are considered video-cameras and or Camcorders which come with higher taxes. On the other hand when Panasonic released the GH4R it was the same camera as the GH4 but with unlimited record time BUT at the same price range as the GH4. Makes you think ....
@elxixi007
@elxixi007 6 жыл бұрын
Hi everybody ! @Vistek, your low light footages looks really clean and sharp. I tested an A7R II and even in Super35mm my footages always have some grain (even at 200 high iso) and doesn't look sharp enought for me. Did you apply a denoizer on your video? If yes, how did you do it ? =) Have a nice day ! NB: Pleaze don't judge my english
@vistek
@vistek 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Storai, no denoiser was used. What picture profile are you shooting in?
@DRFilatov
@DRFilatov 6 жыл бұрын
hi guys, a sony A7 III, will work when connected to powerbank ?
@danieltaylor1522
@danieltaylor1522 6 жыл бұрын
High ISO differences between FF bodies is a meme at this point. There's less than 1 stop of difference, for stills and in RAW, between any of the currently shipping FF bodies when viewed at the same print size. You can verify this using comparison tools like the studio scene tool at DP Review. People make the mistake of pixel peeping cameras with different resolutions and coming to conclusions based on different magnifications. Scale a high ISO A7r II/III, D800/810/850, or 5Dsr image down to 12mp and it will look better than an A7s I/II image. (Similar noise, better sharpness/detail.) And they will look as good as the latest A7 III RAWs. Lots of other real differences to consider between all the cameras. But high ISO is a wash right now. The big difference in high ISO is jumping from crop to any FF. As good as crop has become at high ISO, it still can't touch FF.
@greggoodenough5607
@greggoodenough5607 6 жыл бұрын
you can link to an external monitor with a usb-C to HDMI cable yah? Or does the USB-C not have a video out option?
@vistek
@vistek 6 жыл бұрын
Hello Greg, I don't think so. I think USB is just for tethering.
@WalterTheBalter
@WalterTheBalter 6 жыл бұрын
The touch focus would be useful for RONIN Shooters ! Still waiting for A7sIII
@247th
@247th 6 жыл бұрын
In the US, if it can record longer than 30 minutes, it's officially a "Video Camera" and not a standard "Camera". For video camera, Sony offers the FS5 ($5600 CAD), FS7ii ($12,000 CAD), and the FS55 ($38000 CAD).
@Ahmadmzazai
@Ahmadmzazai 6 жыл бұрын
Is the a7iii 1080p 120fps quality better than the 1dx ii?
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