OKAY I hateeeee how different colors look while youre editing in Premiere VS the export.... this is not at all what the colours looked like in Premiere but hey itll have to do for now 😂
@SamHolland4 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this :D
@samuelArtsoffical4 жыл бұрын
First here
@Jamesfrancosdog4 жыл бұрын
Matti! You’re the coolest, man. Thanks for being you 🙌🏼
@samuelArtsoffical4 жыл бұрын
@@Jamesfrancosdog yea
@riosfamily4 жыл бұрын
I never thought you saying Sony wins over the canon would ever happen. I guess 2020 is really a weird year hahaha!
@micahkitchens24804 жыл бұрын
As someone who can’t afford either the R5 or a7sIII I still find this very informative and entertaining 😂
@apaloosa014 жыл бұрын
Bruh! I feel you !😞
@hendrikludwig18944 жыл бұрын
So true.. 😂 Sadely 😐
@urbannoiseentertainersnoth25464 жыл бұрын
Am dead laughing 😂😂😂🤣🤣
@saifalmadhji5774 жыл бұрын
You took it right out of my mouth 😂😂😂😂
@r3habai3934 жыл бұрын
😂 so far I’ve saved $800 still far ahead 😂
@Steph_davis4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate how you're just a camera guy and just want the best camera for you, and not caring about the brand so much. Both are incredible cameras!
@lostinoc35284 жыл бұрын
That's what he says but obviously brand does matter to him. He uses canon, and is trying to convince himself that a broken camera is better for him... because it is canon. Did you see video when he received the Sony? He claimed he never used one before and had his friend test it for him.
@jaysanchez44074 жыл бұрын
He's a canon ambassador 😂😭 he's gonna choose the r5
@brianbassett54684 жыл бұрын
I agree 👍 People get so blinded by brand loyalty that they don't look at the reality of difference in equipment. Matti does a great job at looking at equipment with a realistic point of view.
@jeni7194 жыл бұрын
@@brianbassett5468 Blinded is off target, it is that you get invested in a system, he has CanonC200 and a bunch of canon lenses, color grading with different brands in the same video can look bad.
@jakflasdick4 жыл бұрын
Lol matti is notoriously biased towards Canon
@AM2PMReviews4 жыл бұрын
Can we just blend the cameras together? The R5Siii
@reuven_olszewski4 жыл бұрын
The RSiii ii
@TaylorBrownPhotoVideo4 жыл бұрын
haha then everyone would be happy
@AndyEngelkemier4 жыл бұрын
Canyon? Sanon? Cony? Sanyon? not sure what their mashup name would be, but that's definitely the one that I would expect never to happen. Panasonic probably also wouldn't split because they make a solid video shooter and panasonic makes other stuff just like sony and canon. Black magic maybe since they don't make much other than cameras, so would probably sell if someone offered a ton of money. And nikon, pentax, fuji, etc. They just don't seem to be in the game much anymore so not sure how they are staying afloat.
@cvfx20624 жыл бұрын
Bro honestly I’d donate my left leg for that
@wedding_photography4 жыл бұрын
And the company would be called Canny
@photoshopcafe4 жыл бұрын
I wish you had shown fast moving objects for the 120 rather than a stationary subject.
@RayaKee4 жыл бұрын
"This poor little EOS R" *sighs*
@DiegoBoquer4 жыл бұрын
I was going to get the R, but probably getting the R6
@Clickumentary4 жыл бұрын
right? :)
@danielporterAZ4 жыл бұрын
And here I am sporting the M50🤪
@f_r_e_d4 жыл бұрын
@@DiegoBoquer you def should! I have the R5 and it's incredible, I've been shooting 4K 24 with no overheating issues. The AF is insane and the tech is obviously the best so far. Since the R6 is the younger brother with 1DXMiii sensor, it's a no brainer get that if you can! Also if you want to print large, 20 mp is really good. My retired 80D has 24mp and I was able to print 17x22" prints with no noise and excellent quality.
@DiegoBoquer4 жыл бұрын
Fred thanks dude. Where did you get the R5 from? R6 is only preorder
@Bobbylopezcreative4 жыл бұрын
Fruedian slip at 15:53. “I don’t want to use the R5 anymore!” 😂 he meant to say “R”.
@HuFilms4 жыл бұрын
I just noticed that!
@MarkLargo4 жыл бұрын
yup
@mixeddrinks81004 жыл бұрын
maybe he said the truth! he doesn't want to use the R5!
@TheLostKuma4 жыл бұрын
@@mixeddrinks8100 that's what freudian slip means =P
@alaricsim91514 жыл бұрын
That’s the verdict. A7siii it is
@joseangelsanchez47534 жыл бұрын
Matti: *complaining his EOS R does not look good anymore* Me *watching my old 70D*: "I mean, at least I have autofocus"
@abdulkalam71444 жыл бұрын
Me having 1300D and it doesn't have autofocus too 🤧
@Nader.subaih4 жыл бұрын
i have the 70D and 6D (no AF). its time for an upgrade
@harikuttan10284 жыл бұрын
Me witha 1500D at least I have a camera.
@sloop244 жыл бұрын
I have the t3i, it doesn't have autofocus but at least it doesn't overheat.
@blackfangwolf73403 жыл бұрын
70D here 😂
@sigmaoctantis_nz4 жыл бұрын
I don't like how the Sony has so much green in the skin tones, making skin look jaundiced.
@mbismbismb4 ай бұрын
sony sucks...case closed hahahaha...the engineer in sony probably all colour blind nerds...play playstation too much i guess
@IonutbleАй бұрын
@@mbismbismb haters
@mbismbismbАй бұрын
@@Ionutble there is a reason to hate though... ugly colours 😎 so? Do u want to force to like it? Eew
@riosfamily4 жыл бұрын
Question is, which hurt more when you gave them back? lol
@dannyjonze4 жыл бұрын
obviously canon
@danfernandogaming18513 жыл бұрын
@@dannyjonze sonaayyy
@gusbromski4 жыл бұрын
EOS R is like, 'HOW DARE YOU FILM THIS VIDEO WITH ME"
@smartbiney8014 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@RiffsAndBeards4 жыл бұрын
Dude Premiere exports correct color you have to put the Gamma LUT Adobe provides on your output.
@MagnetiqLabs4 жыл бұрын
Interesting... Sometimes A7Siii looks better, sometimes R5, but i agree that A7Siii looks more like a cinema camera, closer to FX9 with their cinetone. I prefer Sony to be honest
@Lil_Lobo4 жыл бұрын
I do prefer Sony and their glass is pretty great but that Canon RF glass is freaking incredible
@MagnetiqLabs4 жыл бұрын
@@Lil_Lobo yes, i agree, canon rf glasses is amazing! But Sony's G Masters is also top level
@MrRalboi9194 жыл бұрын
Sony is the best !!!!!
@GeraldLizardo_m4 жыл бұрын
AGREE 100
@MartinVit4 жыл бұрын
@@MagnetiqLabs + 24-70 and 15-35 RF glasses have IS which GM sony not.
@impatrickt4 жыл бұрын
Damn the SONY looks amazing.
@get_spanked2404 жыл бұрын
Why didnt you do a side by side standard and log WITHOUT any coloring to see it in its sooc'est of forms?...this test isn't very helpful to me. Just changing contrast and saturation is not a fair comparison as different color spaces have different values when placed in a rec 709 premiere space.
@Samiam-mu5ln4 жыл бұрын
Needs are subjective and he didn't make the video specifically for Your needs. As he mentioned in the beginning of the video, he made this more so for himself just to test the quality.
@get_spanked2404 жыл бұрын
Sam.i.am the literal title is “...which camera looks better?” how is that not tailored to his viewers to make a decision about which $4,000 camera they want to buy?
@Sparklift4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree
@thatcherfreeman4 жыл бұрын
Comparing log footage wouldn't be useful either as the low contrast would make it difficult to gauge color differences. Best would be the log footage plus the manufacturer's rec709 lut.
@RoniRocks3974 жыл бұрын
4K vs 8k. “It looks sharper on the canon” no, really? I can’t think why :/
@SuburbanTrash4 жыл бұрын
Seriously 😂 What a dumb comparison
@RoniRocks3974 жыл бұрын
It’s not a dumb comparison for say. Wasn’t really fair for matti to say that the canon is sharper. Which it is in every way cuz it has more megapixels and a higher resolution. Again it’s a hybrid mirrorless camera vs a compact cinema camera.
@cloutdiet32914 жыл бұрын
He had to give Canon two free wins (this and the photo category) or it would have been a slaughter.
@davemunoz97424 жыл бұрын
Shouldve tested 8K outside , see if it would even work
@MikedieONE4 жыл бұрын
@@davemunoz9742 Doesnt make a difference. As other tests showed, enviroment heat doesnt influence the internal heat of the R5.
@ArthurRosaTV4 жыл бұрын
4K vs 8K wasn’t the best option for testing.
@StreetsOfVancouverChannel4 жыл бұрын
Agreed... totally destroys the purported 'neutrality/objectivity' of the test
@elevateyourmoodx1004 жыл бұрын
Not that you can tell the difference on a smartphone... or even a 4k monitor. (In terms of resolution)
@Bulsie284 жыл бұрын
8K 12 bit raw vs 4K 10 bit (h.265 unless he recorded externally) is not a fair test. One is compressed and the other is not. 4K internal vs 4K internal would have been better.
@Bulsie284 жыл бұрын
E L E V A T I agree that you wouldn’t be able to see the resolution difference but you would be able to see color differences when one is raw and the other isn’t.
@KathySierraVideo4 жыл бұрын
I assumed this was a “best possible” comparison, but yeah, would be nice to see 4K v 4K. But maybe not... I’ve already decided, and maybe I don’t need any more reasons to question my choice 😁
@RabidTribble4 жыл бұрын
Matti - Did you hear that the R5 can record 4k30HQ externally for 4 hours if you remove the cards from the internal card slots? Gerald Undone is hoping some more R5 owners will confirm this. Some channel did a video about it, and it really did appear to record for 4 hours before finally overheating. If this "hack" is real, it could be a game changer for R5 owners will heavier video needs. The KZfaq channel with the video is called "No Life", and the video title is "Canon R5 Overheating Saga Pt. 1 - Over 4 Hours External Recording Ninja V".
@TheMacronical4 жыл бұрын
I think No Life (channel who did the video) said they have another video coming out where they use the LP6H battery instead of the dummy battery used on the 1st test. God I would love for that to work too with the Ninja V
@RabidTribble4 жыл бұрын
@@jaegerschtulmann Yes, but the hack (if confirmed) could suddenly make the R6 a viable (and cheaper) option for hybrid shooters. I don't need a 48MP sensor for my stills work, so $2,500+$700 for a ninja (only if I have heating problems) may be the ideal compromise.
@TOKSVISIONZ4 жыл бұрын
It will also be a game changer for Atomos Ninja V, cus most R5 video shooter would have to get one.
@ALMFoster4 жыл бұрын
@@jaegerschtulmann plus the added payload/rig size
@R0XyM0h4 жыл бұрын
he did part two follow up video and yes he also confirmed that the recording time even with the battery inserted can last all the way til the battery dies
@JedDobre4 жыл бұрын
3:27 - when you leave the select character option on a video game for too long & they’re start doing small movements 😂
@natefiggs4 жыл бұрын
Sony looked better in color and detail IMO.
@MartinVit4 жыл бұрын
Hm, to me, Canon looks better at @7:36
@lovesushma484 жыл бұрын
Canon colors are great
@crecorstudio76954 жыл бұрын
🤣😂🤣😂
@silvamagic88083 жыл бұрын
Yep, I agreed! But it $3000?! I hope that cost is joke😂
@stevenkralovec4 жыл бұрын
15:53 “I don’t want to use the Eos R* anymore” is what he meant, I think.
@maxxwellwalt4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@arturo.molina4 жыл бұрын
Or maybe his subconscious gave him the answer?
@PrestigiousP4 жыл бұрын
I was wondering the same thing
@jocker12994 жыл бұрын
Maybe it just over heated
@artyalert4 жыл бұрын
Matti did you accidentally swap the images in the photo test? Because the Sony a7siii looks sharper to me somehow haha
@natefiggs4 жыл бұрын
Same
@MrChrisdavie4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I seen that too, but it could just be the Sony over sharpening the jpg in camera. I guess it would be easier to see on a big screen and not an iPhone screen though!
@Steph_davis4 жыл бұрын
Oh I'm glad it's not just me, thought I just had Sony on the brain and assume Sony always looks better🤷🏼
@ChaseTheSummit4 жыл бұрын
Lower resolution images will appear sharper when displayed on a 4K timeline like this. This is due to the lower resolution image having a bit of roughness that will come across as artificial sharpening in 4K and be unnoticeable to the human eye. 45MP image is scaled down the pixels scale with it and become much finer which creates the illusion of the lower resolution being softer when in fact it would be certainly sharper at 100% or printed.
@MrChrisdavie4 жыл бұрын
Chase the Summit it would have been nice if he zoomed in 100% into the eye on that shot! I think you would have seen instantly what the difference was between the two cameras.
@viewfinderthis4 жыл бұрын
I think whoever is choosing between these two cameras needs to remember that the Sony A7Siii is a video camera first and the Canon R5 is a photo camera first with video capabilities.
@truecolorevents1703 жыл бұрын
You are right sir
@mbismbismb Жыл бұрын
and i cant wait to see a7siii vs an R3
@raduantoniu3 жыл бұрын
It feels like Sony caught up with Canon and now the color science is great for both. At this point it's really just personal preference
@simonboteroaristizabal6873 жыл бұрын
Or wether you have more gear on any setup
@vincelam19983 жыл бұрын
it's always been personal preference
@plisskenetic3 жыл бұрын
Says who they caught up? It still has the green tint - much less but it's STILL there
@danfernandogaming18513 жыл бұрын
@@plisskenetic just shoot raw lo who cares
@liceafilms2 жыл бұрын
@@plisskenetic you realize color grading “fixes” that
@erwinmarionneaux4 жыл бұрын
When it comes to the color science, I believe it depends on the white balance. If you leave the camera in auto white balance, they may correct the image more on the green side (sony) or more on the magenta side (canon) but if you set the white balance, you'll be able to see the true color science instead of the white balance. Gerald undone and many others have shown that the sony colors are pretty accurate and canon colors tend to lean towards magenta to flatter skin tones. But in reality, its a simple adjustment of the white balance slider to dial things in to your taste. Unless you're always using the straight out of camera footage and leaving it in auto white balance, I don't think color science is a problem at this point.
@billymurphy34 жыл бұрын
The Sony looks more like a cinema camera than the R5 IMO. Both look great but those outdoor shots on the Sony look incredible. Did you match the shots with a grey card though? The canon looks a bit cooler with a harsher highlight roll off IMO but I’m also watching on a phone. The dynamic range difference is apparent
@DaveSy4 жыл бұрын
9:18 ummm, the A7S III looks way sharper here, and has more detail. The dynamic range is also a lot better of course. Did you miss focus with the R5?
@mikestuckey4 жыл бұрын
Yea bro. He missed it. A7Siii’s still image looked awesome to me, way better than R5!
@aaronramly17054 жыл бұрын
I noticed it too. Sony sharper on the eye
@liampeck244 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I thought that too. The A7S III looks a lot better, i wonder if he mixed up the images.
@gioseisa4 жыл бұрын
a7S III has more artifacting in its image. JPEG may have sharpened it more as well
@seandalt4 жыл бұрын
Way sharper with the Sony. Must be a mistake. R5 should be sharper
@mattc35104 жыл бұрын
With the Sony your subjects don’t need a tan, the Sony gives you a free tan. 😂
@arvinmi4 жыл бұрын
What a great year for cameras, who know 2020 would give us so many cameras.
@Cherub1m74 жыл бұрын
Yeah we have to document the impending apocalypse
@mirrorlessny4 жыл бұрын
true, so many mirrorless releases in the last 2 years from various brands = more choice for us 😁
@m1zhab4 жыл бұрын
Matti : Has a Mac, tells how the As7iii and Eos R footage looks juggy while editing. Me, trying to edit a minute of random shots taken on phone to a BRoll, takes 2 hours to render. 🗿📉 Haven't been this early though fam. ✌️😂
@amarpradeep4 жыл бұрын
I feel u bruh 😂
@Thai.H4 жыл бұрын
Damn bruh
@stefantasic92714 жыл бұрын
One thing to consider, Sony S-Gamut color space is a little wider than DCI-P3, so definitely not rec709. If you want accurate representation of colors use the appropriate lut to bring it to rec709. Also for best dynamic range use S-log3 because now you have 10bit 4:2:2 so it's actually usable.
@brianbassett54684 жыл бұрын
I like the look of Matti's skin tone with the Sony better... The quality of the image seems similar, I feel like the colors are just better looking in the Sony now. Which I never thought I would say that because of have always been a huge fan of Canon color.🙃🙂
@explorer.dream.discover4 жыл бұрын
I was surprised, I thought the sony looked better and I actually thought it was the Canon before he told us. I'm a sony user and I just assumed the better footage was the canon.
@andreasdk4 жыл бұрын
Really? I was completely canon here. Sony looks flat out green.
@adambaker2844 жыл бұрын
Sonys new venice like color is now more cinematic and "less technically accurate".. Sony color was always technical where canons was more blue skies and better skin tones. Also w slog3 u can get whatever you want. You didn't mention there is no clog3 in R5 and it's bc its not high enough with its DR. Like sonys old 8 bit and slog3 was pointless. But now its literally a cine camera. 15 stops of DR tested. Thx gerald undone. No overheating in 4k standard. Thx matti. For video.. its no comparison.. if you shoot only photos than sure 45mp is higher than 12mp. But sony had 42mp camera 5 yrs ago. A7riii is still great camera w no overheating issues at all.. and A7riv does medium format quality. Look at armandos R5 shoot. He's a canon guy and speaks to it overheating badly. I'd wait til 2nd iteration if I owned Ef glass. Get 1dxiii if u do Events.. i don't think its reliable enough for pro environments.
@brianbassett54684 жыл бұрын
@@andreasdk I personally feel that the Canon in this application is giving a more accurate image of Matti's skin tone maybe a little more pink than real life but that slightly green tint (sony) seems to look really nice to me but when it comes to color science it's all completely a matter of opinion. They both look great and I completely agree with Matti that the Canon color seems to be more true to life. I'm just really liking the dynamic range and color of the Sony more.
@brianbassett54684 жыл бұрын
@@explorer.dream.discover I agree 👍 I mean both are excellent! Just really liking the look from the Sony
@JoshRzepkaMusic4 жыл бұрын
To me, the Canon looks better image/color wise for the vast majority of the examples.
@793matt4 жыл бұрын
It all depends on how you color the footage.
@stevenleflar51524 жыл бұрын
Matthew yeah I don’t understand this. You can get SLOG 3 footage to look like whatever you want especially with the dynamic range that is coming out of the Sony.
@sstteevveenn774 жыл бұрын
Interesting because I feel the opposite. The R5 leans heavily on the magenta side and makes skin look red. But I agree with Matti that this is a preference issue.
@JoshRzepkaMusic4 жыл бұрын
@@sstteevveenn77 it also may have to do with all of our individual monitors. I have two "identical" monitors, yet even with the same settings they have slightly different color reproduction. Neither are particularly fancy, but I'll give it a look on my laptop, which has a much more accurate display.
@stevenleflar51524 жыл бұрын
77dris might wanna go look at Gerald undone on that one, because it isn’t true. Dynamic range will be that of an a7iii, it still won’t match the a7siii. I’m not caught up in specs, I’m caught up in results, which for video heavily favored towards a7siii.
@dlpasco4 жыл бұрын
oooh, I'll bet you're right and that it is a dynamic range issue. Hopefully the R5 will get a clog 3 update, which should help a lot on that front ("Sony looking more cinematic" point)
@VyasAnand4 жыл бұрын
No it’s helps not even a stop (Gerald Undone did a test)
@VyasAnand4 жыл бұрын
Sony is boss
@TaylorBrownPhotoVideo4 жыл бұрын
sony has a bit more for sure. all up to what look you like better
@ipadize4 жыл бұрын
the sony "Active" stabilisation is actually just the camera cropping more in so the sensor has more room to move. Its not digital stabilisation, but you can use the gyroscope data to stabilize the footage later
@mattih4 жыл бұрын
Kinda the same thing but yes
@philipbloom4 жыл бұрын
Matti Haapoja not really Matti, electronic stabilization offered by Fuji, Canon and the Sony ZV-1(confusingly called active too) is digital image stabilization which can work but can also make things looks a bit warpy occasionally. It does tend to make things look smoother most of the time though, less mechanical. The A7S III active mode does indeed crop into the sensor 1.1x to give the IBIS more play. One of the biggest issues with the Sony IBIS is their smaller lens mount limits how much the sensor can shift. Canon, Fuji and Panasonic is mostly better due to having more of the sensor to shift. It remains entirely mechanical. It’s isn’t electronic or digital. So this new active mode is better for this simple reason. Then with the gyro data you can add really impressive post stabilization using that info in catalyst browse. I covered this in depth in my review 😊
@JohnnyQ4 жыл бұрын
I like when I move all over the place in front of my EOS R it LOCKS into focus but when I sit down for a talking head shot..it sometimes misfires on the AF lol. wtc
@Emriys4 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter which one is better. Any camera on Matti's hands is fire 🔥
@nakinaki79914 жыл бұрын
If you film with the r5 for long time it would be fire💥 on everyones hands
@k9oussay4 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile I just got the A7 iii lol
@Steph_davis4 жыл бұрын
Still a sick camera though 👌
@shayma954 жыл бұрын
it’s a different camera doesn’t compare to these, and still considered new, one of the best in the market too so nothing to feel bad about
@thebentzenable4 жыл бұрын
Me too 😁👍
@martin_wood4 жыл бұрын
Best hybrid out
@jmackultra4 жыл бұрын
K9OUSSAY lol me too. I was going to get the R6 then I was like nah.
@Buubje134 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile me: *staring at my t7i* ... Sigh
@pavlosgkoulaxidis88564 жыл бұрын
I'm doing the same.
@behystudio4 жыл бұрын
same
@KenGerathsDuck4 жыл бұрын
Also using a t7i
@anastasiaviruch49784 жыл бұрын
This is great CAMERA! Both video and photo are GOOD!
@sldoma4 жыл бұрын
Me looking at my T3 trembling in the bag...... just need to save up a little more for that full frame.
@HighGravityAdventures4 жыл бұрын
I love that even though you're normally a canon guy, you're still able to give credit where credit is due. I think a lot of other channels are such fanboys of certain brands that they always lean in favor of "their" brand. It reminds me that its all about what camera works best for me, not which one I WANT to work best. Thanks Matti!
@offelambrechts4 жыл бұрын
Seeing you back on the EOS R shooting 1080p again and still looking great for online content work... really reminds me that 4k/8k/HQ/Raw isn't that necessary yet for typical YT vlogs :P
@enchantgamer4 жыл бұрын
True that
@Blank-uc1nn4 жыл бұрын
For some people, it will make big difference, but 1080p still definitely good enough if people aren't consciously peeping resolutions
@TheBrettDuncan4 жыл бұрын
Very true. Many people don't even watch KZfaq on 4k displays. 4k/8k do come in handy if you want to stabilize or crop after the fact, though. The freedom to control your framing in post and not lose any resolution on export is pretty sweet.
@EliNews4 жыл бұрын
I am a canon shooter all my life, I like Canon and yet, i think Sony looks more cinematic (any Sony really)... In the movies that we all love the colors are not always true to anything. This is what makes it so dreamy so we call it "cinematic" ... The dynamic range is a more important component and Sony has plenty of it! So Sony users, just be happy and go shoot!
@dannyjonze4 жыл бұрын
good analysis. colour grading is part of the creation process. the canon here looked really accurate, but it's what someone might do with it .
@Jamminn5554 жыл бұрын
Don't lose the wood!! It's a great color and texture and feeling in the studio and as a background. Great comparison video! Thank you so much!
@producedbyed4 жыл бұрын
Well damn, this feels like a harder decision to make then moving to another country lmao
@brendonleerogers17944 жыл бұрын
Hey Matti if I’ve already bought these presets for premiere Pro but I’m now currently using Final Cut Pro X would you be able to make an exception to downloading the final cut Pro X version instead of having to purchase it again? That would be awesome if you could do that!
@raheem_46894 жыл бұрын
I liked the footage of Sony😍 More cinematic and dynamic range
@HopeProphecy2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this! I have been looking for this side-by-side for a while. My only hesitancy for getting a a7iv was canon's supposed advantage in color science. But, after seeing this, I prefer the Sony. Would you say the a7iv has about the same color as this a7siii?
@JDW5N4 жыл бұрын
I just purchased the audio presets, and tried them out with different volumes and mics and I must say they are so awesome. Thank you so much. Such a lifesaver
@JessicaDudas4 жыл бұрын
JEFFmcontent I’m debating, wish i got to hear the female option 😂! Might just have to try it out
@JDW5N4 жыл бұрын
Jessica Dudas I would recommend making that investment. There is a lot of effects to use.
@JessicaDudas4 жыл бұрын
JEFFmcontent awesome thank you! Think I will 😊
@Mustafa1410h4 жыл бұрын
I prefer Sony a7sIII
@milesofmxments4 жыл бұрын
I feel like we’re stepping into the golden era of Matti’s content and I’m here for it
@waydownsouth4 жыл бұрын
Ha ha… loved that little Freudian slip at the end there… “I don’t want to use the R5 anymore!” As Darth Vader might say… “Your thoughts betray you… “ ha ha
@marioskarageorgiou67584 жыл бұрын
This is a bad comparison by far. The most jaw dropping ofc was “the a7s iii colors are more cinematic”!! Do you actually know what means cinematic?
@ricardoduarte65894 жыл бұрын
Cinematic look is the perception that we built up in our memory of all those images filmed during the non digital era. People`s faces looked smoothier than today`s digital haarsh details. So, in today`s digital era, saying that a given image looks more cinematic is the same as saying that that image is less detailed. Using a poorer quality lens on any camera and yield a cinematic look. However, it must be added to this concept of cinematic look the fact that a good quality lens is not only restricted to its capability to produce sharp images. Take, for instances, any Cooke brand lens. It will produce the famous "Cooke Look", meaning a more 3D sense of ambience space while being very detailed yet not harsh. The final result of a recorded image will be always, as it has been since the creation of photography, a combination of the mutual inter-relation between thce glass and the sensor (digital or film negative). In this respect, the size of the sensor nor the amount of digital pixels will be the sole aspect to be considered behind the production of a good qualitiy image. Today`s extremely expensive Arri and Panavision cine cameras use, mostly, smaller sensors than the Sony A7S III and the Canon R5. With regard to comparing thsese two cameras, 4K X 8K, I concur with the author`s viewpoint to show us what each camera has to offer at its best. Furthermore, in the case of the Canon R5, should it be compared 4K X 4K against Sony`s, the R5 would still look more detailed since its 4K option would be oversampled from its rooted 8K capability. A 4K image, oversampled from 8K will look even better since its rooted pixels will be compressed into 4K.
@ricardoduarte65894 жыл бұрын
@Brian Taylor Cool, Brian, but, at least I expressed my subjective perception to define cinematic (without quotes). You did not. Whoever`s view to explain what cinematic is it will be always subjective since it is a question of human perception. Come out and try to give me your own perception of what cinematic is and I might agree with it or not. The first time ever when someone used the word cinematic he or she was comparing a given footage to another that did not resemble the same visual appearance that cine films had been impressing to that date and, I bet you, Brian, he-she was comparing it to digital. One may say that digital is cold and film is warm. Another may say that digital is harsh and film is soft, and so on. Some may prefer digital to cine and vice-versa. So, defining cinematic does not use a mathematical formula. Perhaps one day will come that the term cinematic will be by and large connected to the looks of a digital footage and the original old pictures be defined by some other neology. I will always respect your own definition of cinematic since I have no clues (nobody has) to fully understand what Brian Taylor sees when he opens his eyes. The other day I went to visit the school where I attended when I was a little boy. Everything looked so different to what my memory always told me how that school looked like. In fact, although the buidings remained the same Ricardo had grown up, his optical nerves had worn out, his perception of the world around him was not the same. To my sight today, lttle Ricardo`s perception of his school was less cinematic. Ricardo`s eyes today sees the world with old lenses.
@ricardoduarte65894 жыл бұрын
@Brian Taylor Cool, Brian, but, at least I expressed my subjective perception to define cinematic (without quotes). You did not. Whoever`s view to explain what cinematic is it will be always subjective since it is a question of human perception. Come out and try to give me your own perception of what cinematic is and I might agree with it or not. The first time ever when someone used the word cinematic he or she was comparing a given footage to another that did not resemble the same visual appearance that cine films had been impressing to that date and, I bet you, Brian, he-she was comparing it to digital. One may say that digital is cold and film is warm. Another may say that digital is harsh and film is soft, and so on. Some may prefer digital to cine and vice-versa. So, defining cinematic does not use a mathematical formula. Perhaps one day will come that the term cinematic will be by and large connected to the looks of a digital footage and the original old pictures be defined by some other neology. I will always respect your own definition of cinematic since I have no clues (nobody has) to fully understand what Brian Taylor sees when he opens his eyes. The other day I went to visit the school where I attended when I was a little boy. Everything looked so different to what my memory always told me how that school looked like. In fact, although the buidings remained the same Ricardo had grown up, his optical nerves had worn out, his perception of the world around him was not the same. To my sight today, lttle Ricardo`s perception of his school was less cinematic. Ricardo`s eyes today sees the world with old lenses.
@ricardoduarte65894 жыл бұрын
Old lenses sending light rays to a lesser pixels sensor.
@TJIzzy4 жыл бұрын
I found the RAW from the R5 has crazy dynamic range with CLOG 2. It takes forever to make proxies and export the final project though haha
@TJIzzy4 жыл бұрын
@@TackJorrance The RAW is CLOG 2 in premiere and resolve on the R5 and 1DX III
@jcproductions2224 жыл бұрын
I think if you shoot raw you can choose clog2 afterwards.
@Svarios864 жыл бұрын
I really hope they will give us clog2 and clog3 in future firmware updates
@marioslrzn4 жыл бұрын
Sony a7siii still has that green tint to it..I’m looking at it from a 65” OLED 4k....and the crop is pretty big, it’s like going from a 20mm to 24mm
@LukeMaximoBell14 жыл бұрын
20mm to 22mm. It’s 1.1x
@mondotv42164 жыл бұрын
On KZfaq? Remember you can grade the Sony any way you want. Go have a look at Gerald Undone. He comes to the opposite conclusion. The Sony has the more accurate colours while the Canon is all over the place. Plus if you shoot in SLog3 or Canon log you’re going to be grading anyway.
@joeblack40264 жыл бұрын
well you can just tint it to the blue like canon does .. dont see any deal with that. If you buy 4000$ cam you dont shoot in jpgs with it .. if you do then good luck to you. :)
@schumif1champ4 жыл бұрын
To me the Sony still looks way to green and overall terrible. Even the red on the bricks just looks not as good.
@a9pe7354 жыл бұрын
Right I agree I was little upset of skin color I was really hoping to get rid of Canon but confirming Sony still the same I am keeping Canon. I understand it’s now 10bit but it’s not so easy to control skin color science by hand perfectly as Canon does automatically
@PhilmarGundayaoVloggs4 жыл бұрын
Matti, @ 3:46 really still the same thought about sony and canon color science for decades already. Sony: Potato 🥔 Canon: Tomato 🍅 I love it anyways..
@AmedeePhotography4 жыл бұрын
Great test. The one thing that is truly missing is comparison of low-light performance.
@DavidMartin3694 жыл бұрын
Have to give it to the Sony for both color science and dynamic range. Canon skin tones had a more magenta look to it in your comparisons. Canon has it for the IBIS, but Sony Active Stab seems good enough for me.
@vaibhavjain43174 жыл бұрын
it's more like personal preference then that one camera is better.
@m77ast4 жыл бұрын
No comparison. That canon footage is epic. 😃
@ashes18224 жыл бұрын
I love these break down videos where you just compare everything and do show and tell.
@WesleyProductions4 жыл бұрын
Matti Happoja your videos are so cool, I love them! Do you have any advice for young filmmakers?
@HuFilms4 жыл бұрын
Canon's IBIS makes it look like it's on a gimbal, Sony's IBIS makes it look like it doesn't have IBIS! The good news is that both cameras colours should be easy to match in post!
@gaoru4 жыл бұрын
Tbh, I'd rather less smooth than having warp stabilizer like artifacts baked into the footage. 7:20
@dandonovan14 жыл бұрын
Sony has an Active mode for when the camera is moving. The standard stabilized mode should not have been used when the camera was moving. When he did show movement with Active on, it cleaned-up quite a bit.
@travisolson39634 жыл бұрын
Never thought I would choose Sony just a month ago. Was so hyped with the R5 and Komodo. Haven’t used a Sony in a decade. Komodo still has full 16 bit RAW and higher dynamic range, but the A7SIII is really high quality and feature rich, especially AF and 4K120.
@evil1knight4 жыл бұрын
The outdoor Sony looks so good!!
@hugo.canosa4 жыл бұрын
I really love the Sony´s skin tones, the dynamic (tho it´s marginal), the Eye AF and AF as general, and of course the low light is better but that we know already. I mean, if somebody´s seeing this and isn´t in any of these systems I think the Sony´s a better option for video, and you can buy a A7III for 1400 euros and have a photo camera with all the lenses and the Canon idk, it doesn´t seem so interesting at this point, it´s a super inovative camera, but for me, the Sony´s have been the best for years (and i even prefer the Z6 over de R believe me), so Canon doesn´t seem the "better" option here.
@troygrady4 жыл бұрын
Sony and their damn yellow skin tones. 6:18 is a particularly egregious example. People who say they can't tell the difference between Sony and Canon color science, it truly boggles the mind.
@andrescarrasco12484 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's definitely a deal breaker, can't stand spending 3 seconds correcting white balance, but I'll spend 2 hours with color correction, but not if the white balance is a bit yellow from camera that sucks Canon is the only choice
@thatboycon55364 жыл бұрын
@@andrescarrasco1248 This couldnt be accurate. Sony cameras do not shoot that warm. You can put a sony a panasonic and canon next to eachother and fire em off, they shoot warmer tones than the sony. There is no way that one shot had the guy outside that orange and the canon was pale clear in comparison. That's almost laughable. User error not camera
@tjcadelina95604 жыл бұрын
Probably messed up the white balance in camera and didnt correct it in post. On the other hand, Canon's skin tones are too pink. If you want perfect skin tones, buy an Alexa lol
@polviggen4 жыл бұрын
Nothing that can't can be changed in post. Still prefer the sony here. Looks like a the white balance wasn't set a bit warmer for the sony here.
@polviggen4 жыл бұрын
The concrete looks yellower too. So the white balance is not the same here.
@jlarasula73114 жыл бұрын
The colors on the new sony a7siii are just amazing!
@tanayvanmali93574 жыл бұрын
At the ending matti says i don't want to use R5 anymore....... 🙉😂😂😂😂😂😂
@chillbill99544 жыл бұрын
Dynamic Range wins allways!
@edpr22444 жыл бұрын
Dynamic range over resolution 100%
@maruwaanmoses4 жыл бұрын
Watching this while unboxing my X-T4 🤭
@MagnetiqLabs4 жыл бұрын
And, I think you know the answer Matti ;-) Better dynamic range, no overheating, amazingly looking 120 4K. It's everything we need
@T-Slider4 жыл бұрын
On the outside shots of Chris?, skin tone, color, and exposure looked dramatically better on the 3; as did the sky! But the shots of you looked better on the 5. But, so far almost nobody including you are demonstrating what happens in photography in actual low light. Like at a dimly lit wedding venue without flash to preserve expensive ambient lighting. What a boon it would be to be able to dispense with flash while getting good exposures and white balance in dim light. For these scenarios I would like you to do an R6, S3 comparison. Please!
@dannyjonze4 жыл бұрын
i dont think it was any different outside, and better is subjective. it just may have been slightly flattering in that situation
@cineffect4 жыл бұрын
The "green-yellow" tint generally looks more pleasing to the eye, than the "blue-magenta" tint, from what is see, Sony wins. It is not always the reality that we perceive as pleasant, but what we imagine the reality to be ☺️
@StoryDrivenFilmmaking4 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@TheKidsDaaaaad4 жыл бұрын
Compares 8k vs 4k saying the 8k has more detail... DUHH lol
@stevenkralovec4 жыл бұрын
Well Matti explained once that there’s a difference between detail and resolution. A GoPro in 4K will have less detail than a DSLR or mirrorless in 1080. But still, you’re right, it wasn’t an apples to apples comparison with the different resolutions.
@vipersrt304 жыл бұрын
from other tests canon's 4k 30p HQ has been consistently showing more details than a7siii 4k 30p videos. At the same time, a7siii 60p and 120p has been consistently than the canon r5 on 60p and 120p.
@TheKidsDaaaaad4 жыл бұрын
@@stevenkralovec I just found what he said and was doing funny... I respect his opinions.
@mirrorlessny4 жыл бұрын
@@vipersrt30 that's good to know, bet 4k60 is a popular choice
@tombuck4 жыл бұрын
I feel that the Sony is clearly a better video camera, but I LOVE the R, so what do I know 🤷🏻♂️ I’m so glad to see you enjoying Final Cut- it’s such a great app.
@davidaltizer4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you on this one! Amazing that Sony pulled this off. Excited for the future.
@tigerchuu21484 жыл бұрын
My thoughts: I do think Sony is the over all best filmmaking camera, the cinematic look is perfect and much more dynamic range than the Canon as well and no limits on filming. For color: Personally the canon may look more real I’m not sure, but it also does make the skin look much less flattering I think personally. At 6:48 in the video and look at the sky. The sky in the canon is completely blown out to me while you can see nice details in the sky on the Sony and the whites on the canon are too over exposed over all making the image much less pleasant to look at I think and the Sony looks to me like it keeps much more detail. Detail: As said before, I think the Sony looks more detailed, especially in slow motion and as Gerald Undone also showed, the Sony 4K is more detailed than the Canon 4K especially if you zoom in and look closely. 8k of course is different. If I had to make a choice, I would chose the Canon, mostly because I am photographer first. If I had to recommend something for Matti, I would say the Sony because Matti is a videographer first. I viewed this on a 4K Dell UltraSharp with factory calibration (an avg. delta E < 2) Of course KZfaq compression is also a thing but these are my opinions!
@brainpope66604 жыл бұрын
I have the impression that the two skies were shot a different times. The structure of the clouds is completely different. And the Canon was not completely blown out, there is still some blue in the sky whereas it is all white in Sonys image. If it was shot at the same time, then Canon holds the sky even better I think.
@tigerchuu21484 жыл бұрын
Brainpope Really? To me on my monitor the sky on the cannon was completely white and bright and you couldn’t see where one cloud started and the other cloud ended. My monitor is HDR certified too. In my opinion if they were taken in the same conditions the Sony would win even more because it has way better HDR. Anyhow, it’s interesting to hear how you saw it though and we see the videos after export and compression so it may skew the quality as well
@crewscontrol79654 жыл бұрын
You should do a video comparison between Premiere - Final Cut - DaVinci, a lot of people are moving away from Premiere it seems
@MBFylmworks4 жыл бұрын
In your autofocus test, if you look into the out of focus background, the a7sIII has these incremental sudden shifting motions that makes it distracting whereas the R5 is fully smooth throughout. So in that regard, the R5 is better. But addressing this issue with Sony could help in updating the firmware to correct it. Could also be a particular lens issue.
@whiterock18652 жыл бұрын
If I were starting from scratch, I’d go Sony , coz you can’t forget you need lenses and having amazing options from tamron and sigma. Like the tamron 35-150mm pretty much covers 95% of what you’d need for video and photo. I was already invested in micro 4/3 so that’s what I stuck with but I have a canon R5 and I’ll start using more since the new firmware update has made it a viable camera.
@RockyColaFizz4 жыл бұрын
We are all splitting hairs at this point. They are both great.
@dandonovan14 жыл бұрын
Rocky Cola When looking at image quality, you are correct. But, when it comes to usability, the Sony is ahead for people who need dependability. Of course I am talking about overheating, but also the dual card slots. A duplicate video can be recorded to the 2nd card slot on the Sony but not on the Canon. That is a big deal for some people, along with limited record times in the higher quality modes on the Canon.
@schumif1champ4 жыл бұрын
Dan Donovan sony is the only camera to ever not be dependable and corrupt cards. I have used both for the last 8 years and repeatable from time to time the sony fucks up a card. Best part is they are both using Sony cards.
@dandonovan14 жыл бұрын
schumif1champ Sorry to hear that! I switched to Sony from Nikon almost 2 years ago. I started with the a9 and a7RIII and now shoot with the a9II and a7RIV. Luckily no card failures. But, card failures are usually a card issue and not a camera problem. I use Lexar and SanDisk, but have not tried Sony cards yet. I thought the Sony tough cards would be next, but I will look into those before buying!
@mirrorlessny4 жыл бұрын
@@dandonovan1 I asked many Nikon DSLR photographers what they thought about Nikon Z6/Z7 & they all brought up the issue of single card slot, yes I agree with you, dual slots are a big deal if you are making a living with these cameras
@abhyudaysharma44844 жыл бұрын
So canon wins in 8K and IBIS only ? (Which you can't shoot btw) 😂 who tf was calling this camera a gamechanger
@krispewkrem34 жыл бұрын
Something important worth noting is that a talented photographer can pick up anything and produce amazing photos and video. These videos definitely help to figure out what camera suits someone best. You could flip a coin and be good with both for at least a decade.
@JamesNobleMusic4 жыл бұрын
Why are people disliking this?! Great vid man.
@gstuart07704 жыл бұрын
Just joking, but how is the Sony smaller when you need a gimbal to keep up with Canon's image stabilization? Haha. Great video.
@gstuart07704 жыл бұрын
@Foto4Max Canon can lower its standard settings for an apples to apples comparison in 4k, and beat Sony. Dont hate, because Sony hasn't figured out 8k yet. They are a close 2nd, if you don't mind their short comings.
@SumitGuptaFilms4 жыл бұрын
This time canon has paid more to him for reviewing his camera as his very first video said R5 is not so good and gets heat and blah blah .then People started cancellation of pre orders..then they reached MH with some extra Bucks 😃😃😃
@mattih4 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha 😂 I love camera conspiracies.
@travelbirds91634 жыл бұрын
@@mattih A great channel indeed!😉🤣
@SumitGupta064 жыл бұрын
🔥🔥
@JesseKatches4 жыл бұрын
as always - a big help. thanks for putting in the work!
@JohnSantana4 жыл бұрын
FINALLY! AUDIO PRESETS FOR FCPX! THANK YOU MATTI!
@TRIOStories4 жыл бұрын
This predicament of A7SIII vs R5 is literally giving our whole team nightmares. We can't sleep at night. 😩
@MikedieONE4 жыл бұрын
Just get both :P
@dandonovan14 жыл бұрын
It should be easy...if you need a lot of video, the Canon will not work in a production environment. Watch the wrap-up at the end of Gerald Undone’s review. He says exactly when each camera will work well and when it won’t.
@ItzSi4 жыл бұрын
Canon colours are flawless 👌🏼
@martin_wood4 жыл бұрын
Itz Si yeah not gonna lie i felt the sony kind of overdid the skintone warmth. Still looks way better than before. Unless matti and his friend sunless tan their faces.....
@WhtsUpYoung4 жыл бұрын
Anyone ever think the color diff is because the 2 companies use a different coating on their sensors and maybe glass... @ me
@JeremySchoen4 жыл бұрын
the dynamic range on the sony is really cool
@HrPedrosak4 жыл бұрын
The Sony image loos sharper, but that could be because the guy was a little out of focus... The R5 should be sharper... Edit: or is the R5 less sharp due to the AA filter...
@MartinVit4 жыл бұрын
R5 is sharper because of the 8k oversampling.
@HrPedrosak4 жыл бұрын
@@MartinVit Yes it should be sharper and it normally it is, but on the photo (jpegs) of Matti`s friend the A7S3 looks sharper. I dont´t know why... Then maybe it was a little out of focus. I looked at the 4k version of the clip.
@TimSheehan4 жыл бұрын
@@77dris Lol an aa filter decreases resolution not increases - it makes everything slightly softer to avoid moire, why would you think softer (e.g. very slightly out of focus) means more resolution???
@HrPedrosak4 жыл бұрын
@@77dris ??
@GermanViking4 жыл бұрын
Overall I would say that Sony also wins with more budget friendly high quality glass for video!
@ArturoTabera3 жыл бұрын
aka the new "cheap" 6k$ lens Sony FE C 16-35mm T3.1 G Cinema (SELC1635G)
@JonniArmani3 жыл бұрын
I was contemplating a Sony A7siii and now after watching this I’m really considering the Canon R5 even more!
@maxchau69734 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the comparison video. I have no regrets in my pre-order now!
@rafirizwan4 жыл бұрын
The Sony looks like an Arri low key - my eyes go to the Sony and “rest” there every time. Also viewing this on an iPhone at 1080p, the Sony looks sharper which had me SUPER confused in the beginning.
@MrChrisdavie4 жыл бұрын
I agree, I’d take the Sony for filmmaking too, but id take the canon for stills.
@MrChrisdavie4 жыл бұрын
Oh and you should download the ios14 beta if you want to experience KZfaq it all it’s 4k hdr goodness on your iPhone, assuming you have an oled model!
@hashfihilman82994 жыл бұрын
PLEASE DO NOT compare detail/sharpness when using DIFFERENT RESOLUTION.
@martin_wood4 жыл бұрын
Why not? This is a camera comparison. Detail and sharpness isn’t something you care about?
@stevenleflar51524 жыл бұрын
Marty Wood because it isn’t comparing anything?
@pate56234 жыл бұрын
@@martin_wood cause it just not fair at all, 8k and 4k its 4 times different in file size
@hashfihilman82994 жыл бұрын
Marty Wood he should’ve also used 4k footage on the r5.
@XVisionsProd4 жыл бұрын
@@hashfihilman8299 he is comparing both cameras highest quality... they are around the same price point too... not like he took a c300 or a mini ursa g2 and compared. to me it seems logcal to say the least
@TomScryleus4 жыл бұрын
*both look nice Matti* *I would go with the Sony for the low light and 240fps slowmotion*