When you attack another you tube your only attacking yourself.

Your anger is quite entertaining, thank you!

Hello, do You like sauerkraut or relish on hotdogs?

Less than two minutes into this video and I am already irrate, he said, "One of my favorite speakers EVER" NOT "one of the BEST speakers ever" OMG get it right if you're going to criticize! Dare we call out, POLITICAL SPIN?

Great video! Very informational!

I have these speakers and they sound great! It has been reviewed by several Audio Enthusiasts on KZfaq all giving it great marks. I can appreciate that we can have a difference of opinions. You have some valid points, but I think you should soften your message and it come across more effective and professional. I do wish you all the best!

Just FYI: the word "hyperbole" is pronounced hye-PER-buh-lee.

Lots of anger in the comments… am I the only one who sees the humour in this video? Great work, very entertaining!!

Great job (as always) exposing the charlatans (I tallied the names of at least 6 of the tools invoked by the angry marks in a three minute scan of the comments). Keep up the good work brosef, you’re doing a sort of public service for those too lazy/humorless/unironic/thick. Feels like the “Idiocracy” prophecy is being fulfilled🥺🥺 Just read half the comments 🤣😁🤣🤙🤙🤙

I can't wait for your Darko bashing series. ❤❤

Quite an insightful video, thanks man!

I bought CS5 3 years ago when it was $73, then sold them. They sound balanced and neutral than BS22 at mid-range, not that "shouty", but, as you said, CS5 definitely lack of bass. Both BS22 and CS5 are good at $100 range. But neither of them can beat decent $200 speakers

the Sonys are on sale at BestBuy right now for $99 12/11/22

I don’t agree with many points with this video. One. you’re comparing the Sony speakers with studio monitors. The Sony speakers have a character to them which is favored by many.. 2. Just because a speaker cannot play loud doesn’t mean that it doesn’t sound good. Not everyone listens to music at 85Db plus. 3. Have you actually listen to the Sony speakers with your stereo? Measurements are great, but they don’t tell the whole story.

He said "one of my favourite speakers eva" key word is my

Actually he didn’t say it was the best speaker ever, he said it was his favourite speaker. A very different statement. Your whole critique seems to be based on him saying they were the ‘best ever’.

Hmmm. Danny Ritchie at GR Research hates on most high end speakers. He called the Sony a “unicorn” with great bones and designed his own crossover for it. Have you ever done any DIY?

There are absolutely no superlatives in audio. FYI, zero listening fatigue with the SONY's. They are what they are and with a few EQ tweaks they perform well. @cheapaudioman is a breath of fresh air in the stale world of self proclaimed audiophiles.

Funny I thought he was going to do the Danny Richie Crossover, over haul. If you have issues 😂 with the CS units see his overhaul. Danny obviously runs a Spectral analysis, points out the Box needs No Rez and a good crossover. He has the Super Tweeter become the tweeter the original tweeter he turns it into Mid Range, and gets rid of all the cheesie parts. While he doesn't like the woofer frame as it's stamped steel. He then gets rid of Sand cast resistors, then offs the iron core inductors, gets rid of crappy Steel in the signal path, and the crappy PVC cableing. Yes, the upgrade is spendy. But you honor what you have. And while you can get a pair of Warfdales and regardless of a better Woofer you will still if you want to upgrade them to a better sound quality you are going to get rid of their crossover cheese. So, there is that.

I have the sscs towers for my rear surrounds. They are great for that. Playing music is OK if you have a sub, but I use them for what I bought them for, surround sound.

They are fine for a small room or dorm etc. and fun with a sub for someone who doesn't crank them up.

You must be really fun to hang out with.

He said his favorite speakers ever, I believe. Just because the Lions are my favorite team doesn't mean I think they are the best team ever. Just trying to keep things in perspective.

There's a reason why CAM has 133,000 subscribers and you only have 1600.

Really want to see you banging it with OCD Mikey and Jay's Audio.

I think one of the best sub 400$ speakers is Kali LP-6's. JBL 305's are also very good.

if you want to do more, adding a wooden brace to the cabinet to also deal w/ resonance is part of Neil's mod kit plans ( and they are only $20 ! ) now TBH some say that just moves the resonance to another region ! another option is Danny of GR Research also has mod kit for the Sony CS5 Speaker ! his kit makes the two tweeters reconfigured ! the tweeter becomes mid-range and the super tweeter a tweeter! it shows improved freq response ! and SOUNDS BETTER ! As i seem to be a glutton for punishment ( and have 6 CS5 speakers ) i will do BOTH kits do a 3 way A-B-C test comparison and let the designers hear their competitor's effort ! ( should be funny ! ) They ( both ) MIGHT have a kit for the Sony CS3 Speaker ,tower speaker too! big bro of the CS5 ( not yet ) he is working on one. I sent him it to him. It is unclear IF it can be improved. the woofers are supposedly GLUED in on some of the ones made so it may NOT be practical or even possible to upgrade it ! what if yours has glued-in woofers impossible to remove w/ out damage ? ( are Sony idiots ? ) PS @craigenputtock 1 month ago Probably the biggest shortcoming of that Sony speaker is the cheap light cabinet. Anyone who has these should add a dowel brace between the side panels. Jack Dale : as far as the thin cabinet i asked and danny said yes you can glue / screw additional pieces of wood or MDF on to the outside to build it up . ( then just paint it ! i imagine easy really ! ) so just do it ! ( and chamfer the the front edges ) guess i will buy a router !

I wish I had seen this a year before you made this. You are 100% correct, penny wise pound foolish.

I imagine that you are familiar with Gr Research and their take on modifying the Sony's. Danny does include a lot of graphs of b-4 and after modification. I just looked at his website and noticed the modkit now costs a whopping $480.00 plus tax, shipping, and the fact that it's up to the customer to build them. I want to talk to at least one person who has done this mod. Hell, it's even more than the mods to ATC's where the expenditure may actually benefit a nearly five grand pair of speakers with insane dynamics and clarity.

The best deals in hifi are always the used deals. That said I saved up and paid a princely £700 for a pair of brand new Revel M105. £1800 speakers. Many speakers are like fashion, and prices drop very quickly once they are not the new thing any more. This bodes very well for us users.

I have owned the Sonys (found them for $35 at Goodwill) and now own the Lintons. I don’t have measuring equipment, but there is no way in hell that the Sonys would ever be as good as the Lintons. Thanks for exposing the truth here SA.

It’s funny how polarizing these Sony speakers are. I blame Sony for putting an overpriced MSRP then putting them on sale for 50-60% off MSRP every other week. About 6 years ago I was shopping for a soundbar for movies in my living room. I have a modest stereo system in a spare room. These Sony’s were on sale for a ridiculous price, so I opted for them instead of a soundbar. I bought the tower version of these, the center channel, subwoofer, and a the respectable STR-DN1060 receiver for $800. Basically the entire 3.1 speaker system was $300. I love that the towers are front ported as my wife has a neurotic compulsion to place all furnishings directly against a wall. Anyway, I’ve set the crossover point to 90hz and don’t generally listen at high volumes. I’ve managed to convince my wife to keep the speakers about 8” from the wall. And the speakers are broken in. Yes, speakers do need to break in. The rubber or polyurethane in drivers can be stiff from factory and do benefit from 20-30 hours of break in. Electronics DO NOT need a break in period. Anyway, after setting them up to play with their strengths, they sound decent for the price. It’s just funny that people act like these are either total trash or the best speaker Evaah! When in reality they are just a good budget or entry level HOME THEATER (I.E. designed to work with EQ and a subwoofer) speaker if you get them on sale. They are fairly dynamic with good separation and low distortion at low to moderate volumes. A side note, the super tweeter is admittedly probably just a marketing gimmick and part of Sony’s “HiRes” sales pitch. But I have wondered if the 20khz and above sound waves somehow affect the audible hi frequency sound waves in some way? Perhaps they have a phase interaction with the audible high frequencies that wouldn’t measurable on a Klippel near field scanner, idk.

What do you do? How did you make all that coin I see behind ya:) Lawyer I’m guessing

Everyone was pushing the SSC5's so hard that I caved and picked up a pair at BestBuy to see wtf it is all about. I returned them that same day. Horrible, cheap, ugly little things. I was scared I was going to tear the woofer turning up the volume a little bit and BestBuy would not take them back.

Probably the biggest shortcoming of that Sony speaker is the cheap light cabinet. Anyone who has these should add a dowel brace between the side panels.

These Adam T5V’s graph indeed looks incredible, I wish they were at least $2,000 a pair

On another note, I did order the Adams t5v and they are great for 400 a pair.

I agree on the Adams (T5, T7, T8 series) if you feed them with a proper balanced dac. On the other hand, making fun of other youtubers isn't the way to go.

In Europe, Thomann sells the T5V for less than € 300 a pair and the T8V for less than € 500 a pair. The T8V goes straight to 45 HZ and -6 db dip is about 30 HZ.

Mick Foley has an audio channel? Kewl.

You're absolutely correct here, thank you!

For people with a decent sub, a bookshelve speaker doesn't need to have extended bass. In thia case the mids and highs matter most

would these speakers be fine as surrounds "SRL/R or SR Rear" instead?

To each there own, i am not on engineers side pretty much ever when it comes to audio though. Have fun with concrete numbers and graphs. We're just not learned enough is what i get from you all. Thats you're opinion but im sure you would like to spend all day trying to prove it with charts and graphs.

Adam vs Yamaha HS8.. GO!

los Sony son muy buenos altavoces y son audiofilos no hay dudaa

Naughty boy, knocking our favourite reviewer... I had to laugh at it.

Any chance you could do a best speakers video? Maybe at £300/£500/£1000 etc

Why so negative personally towards Randy. You could have said the same thing without attacking him. Shame!!! Also I own these speakers, they are very good for the price, better then almost anything for less then $200 a pair. Easy fixs for the treble, don't tow in and turn down the treble by 2db. Bass is reinforced by moving closing to a wall, about 10-12 inches and turn up the bass a couple db. They will hit hard! Also 85 db is plenty loud enough for a small to medium sized room. Who really listens to music much louder, you can cause hearing damage plus piss off neighbors. You, sir, are completely wrong, do better!

This is the type of high quality, original and thought provoking content that KZfaq desperately needs.

Wait, you want me to NOT talk to someone? Um, no. I’m an adult and can consult with anyone I chose…

lawl 35 likes, tells the whole story

What is the best integrated amp for Linton 85? below $1k

I bought those, they are not bad, they are dreadful.

You like picking on people that don’t deserve it? Making fun of the way someone talks? How old are you? Interesting. I’m going to look into you. If there are skeletons in your closet I’ll expose them. Look at SOC. 😂

This is like watching Mystery Science Theater for audiophiles. Pure catnip for me. Love what you do here.

What’s up with the weird hanging speakers on the wall?

Bruv.. hating on other KZfaq reviewers, hating on an established audiophile low-cost speaker. This is not the way.

He never said it was the best speaker ever and also says it breaks apart at higher volumes in the video....... He's giving his opinion and you're getting irate about it? Lol calm down dude, people love these speakers for a reason.

The Klipsch R-51M were harsh. Ugh.

Why would I give any credibility to a guy who's got his (weird looking) speakers hanging on the wall in a completely senseless configuration? Oh wait, tell me there are two more hanging from the other walls so you can have "Surround Sound"!

i think this is needed thank you!!! sorry all yall hurt ppl. the influencer catchy reviewers as usual are very very watered down mock versions of being any kind of informative resource. they’re a waste of algorithm and server space. it takes a lot of genitals to confront it. way to go author of this here channel.

Bro, you have a lot of hate. I get it,use an Up an coming reviewer for clickbait. Why bring hate to the table, Do your reviews and let people want to subscribe to you because of your style.

I did buy a pair of the Sonys I have many large Klipsch HERITAGE line including Cornwalls / LaScallas. So I wasn’t expecting much from these little Sonys. I was somewhat impressed and not a hater on bookshelf speakers. Many nice ones out there. Personally I would leave them alone. The Sonys or any bookshelf speaker will never overcome physics. IMHO.

I love a good KZfaq beef.

Did you see Danny Richie's KZfaq video?

A speaker that falls apart at higher volumes is like a club sandwich that falls apart when you pick it up: It's just a nasty mess and you get sauce on your pajamas

Why are audio nerds always so angry? When I walk into a high end audio store they're always spitting in my face about how much I don't know about audio, and now I turn to youtube and get the same treatment. It's just a pair of speakers in a very affordable price range, of course no matter what you do to it, it won't be perfect. Installing an upgrade to an inexpensive speaker may be the spark of creativity someone wants or needs to get deeper into audio, or design their own systems. Yes people have "untrained ears", but who cares when people are trying to enjoy their lives rather than trying to put other people down about their own subjective opinions about things.

Have the same beard 🐻

The sony need cabinet work, and even with a new crossovers, the drivers are still junk. Just pay the money for a better speaker to start with like an emotiva b1+, Elac, SVS prime, NHT c3.

I take my best naps at rock concerts. Really fatigues me.

I have Adam T5Vs. They do not sound so good when you play them loud.

To cheapaudioman's defense, beside the usual hyperbole, he refers to the Sony as not worth $200 in many other videos. He is also after sales, being cheap.. Concert fatigue at high volume? Well, there are medical studies that show loss of hearing caused by rock concert.. High sound volume is bad for your health 🤕🤪

No crossover mod can improve bass extension?! It’s called harmonics and clarity which are greatly affected by crossover components and values. Maybe you’re referring to graphs but real world perception is another story. Are you just trying to get views by bashing a KZfaqr with more followers?!

Definitely a spicy reaction video. It's great to hear someone with a ruthless, direct, highly critical, unafraid to be seen as mean approach. I really don't think you're going to hurt Randy's feelings. If you don't have a thick skin in the public arena, you need to think about another career. If someone doesn't like your approach, they are free to scroll to another KZfaq reviewer. I like and listen to the reviewers you blast, but it's good to be reminded to remain critical. Buyer beware.

I bought them on his recommendation and the just breaks up. I use them for front speakers but I want to get rid of them

If you think that @cheapaudioman is on the Sony "take", maybe you should spend a bit of time surveying his reviews to see how many Sony products he has reviewed, and how he has reviewed them. Then, provide the results to your viewers. I would give you the answers, but I prefer that you do your own work...for a change.

i never needed to listen to those Sony spkrs to know they are bad; a super tweeter in a $90 spkr?!?!? 😅🤣😂 those sony are the same kind of spkrs they have been including in their boomboxes since the 90s 😅🤣😂😅🤣😂 i remember the blue woofer from that "age".

hy·per·bo·le /hīˈpərbəlē/

I just cancelled my cs5 order, thank you very much sir !

Where do I begin? You must be one of those guys that only looks at charts and ears don’t count. I guess the other KZfaq reviewers that touted the Sony are idiots. Examples are Steve Gutenberg and Jay Soulsik. Both did favorable reviews. I bought these speakers for $80 as a present for my son. He listens to classical music and does not play at 90db. He’s thrilled with them. They were a GREAT deal. Your mean spirited treatment of another KZfaqr is in really poor taste. Randy does a lot of real cheap products along with moderately priced gear. He’s also a joy to watch and entertaining vs someone that swallowed a sour ball.

So glad to find someone who has the end all “scientific” opinion.

You should buy a pair and review them yourself I know some people love the sonys and that also put a little bit of insolation in and there are some people that love the Klipsch better than the Sonys it all depends on the person's ear and what each person likes you may also get a husband that thinks the expensive speaker sounds better than the cheap and the wife thinks the cheaper speaker sounds better than the expensive speaker

amazing video

The word is pronounced Hy per bo le Not hyper Bowl

"so, if you want to quit equating quality with price you might want to change the name of your channel from cheap audioman to quality audioman" ❤️

But even GR research were saying the sony is really good

I think you miss the point of RANDY. He is a Retired United States Navy Petty Officer.(*I cannot confirm his rate) He's married with 2 or 3 kids. He shares his enthusiasm, passion and knowledge with his family and us, his extended family. He's built projects with us and through doing that he will often admit that he is not perfect, just like all of us. I myself like pulling RANDYS chain, a lot. I know he started his channel on his anniversary with the Misses in Mexico. I watched this dude get a Fire under his A$$. He built the channel as a real organic community with interaction, other well liked and respected KZfaqrs and I'm thinking that this is all opinion based. RANDY doesn't play politics or any fake A$$ BullSh¿#.He's just RANDY and FUkYeaH Brohemisphere you done Fukd Up Son. RANDYS my Nigga. So I'm going to systematically take a proverbial Schiit on your Channel. I've got time and ask RANDY, I'm very persistent. You are a Bad Person and you will be dealt with. **PAID FOR BY TIM DILLON**

I really don't think we need to watch videos like this. I was genuinely giving this guy's opinion a fair share, but the more I watched, the more I realized is just disgruntled and came across more like a personal attack on Chief audio man than about the speaker itself

Those are going to have to be some really bad 1,000 dollar speakers

This is your KZfaq strategy? Attacking other KZfaqrs? You can disagree without making fun of people. Especially when they have 97k more followers than you. Good luck

Hello, Scientific Audiophile, so thinking of buying Paradigm Monitor SE Atom bookshelf loudspeakers. Looking to keep the speaker budget below 500.00. Or should I go for the KEF Q150? Thanks.

"Scientific Audiophile" is an oxymoron. Audio is art.

🙂👍

It's about time someone called them out.

You've got around 500 subscribers, but Randy has around 100K. Why is that? Apart from the fact you may not have been around as long, I think it's because he's funny and engaging, doesn't put down other reviewers, and caters for a relatively neglected segment of the market. It's not generally a segment I shop in, being more in the mid-tier bracket, but still, I enjoy his videos and don't for a moment think he's on the take from Sony. To suggest that, and moreover that he's a liar is well beyond the pale and totally uncalled for. You call yourself scientific. Well, one thing to avoid in a scientific approach is ad hominem. Anything else you might have to say regardless of merit immediately becomes tainted, especially for people like me who actually like Randy and enjoy his stuff. You got me this one time, but I'll forever remember how you did it and so will many other folks. Much good may it do you in the long run -- but I'm not holding my breath.

Great video as usual

I have the CS5 and Fluance signature $164 /pair and from experience the Fluance blow away the CS5 to my ears.

I think you've missed the point in the video and mocking someone is not the way to go. And find out how to pronounce hyperbole BTW.

After listening to him I actually bought some for my daughter. After our first listen and seeing the expression on her face-- I first unplugged them and then carefully through them into the swimming pool. Genuine story no BS! Got her some Wharfedale diamonds, everyone happy.