Like I'm sure many other keyboard warriors like me needlessly correcting you, The European launch PS3s weren't just emulation, they were a weird mix of both some emulation and real PS2 hardware inside the PS3 PS3 models are CECH*, the * being the generation I guess The model A is what you have, it has an entire PS2 inside it and is 99.9% ps2 compatible, since it basically is one The model B was the same, but without wifi and less space The model C was what we got in Europe and other PAL territories, it didn't come out in NTSC land. The model C has the real PlayStation 2 hardware inside it, except for the PS2's emotion engine CPU. Instead the powerful PS3 cell CPU would emulate the PS2's CPU so it uses what's called partial emulation. These are like 95% PS2 compatible (and some people argue they are better for PS2 than the model A and B since the performance of the emulated ps2 CPU is sometimes faster then the real thing lol). We didn't get the model A or B in Europe unfortunately, only the C The model D got axed before release The model E is the emulation one you're thinking of in this video, with the 80gb HDD. This one is only around 80% ps2 compatible and has issues and such from my understanding. The model F also got cancelled before release The model G had no PS2 hardware or software emulation and 0% ps2 compatibility, and had the cost cuttings of two USB ports and no card readers and no chrome trim, but interestingly still has the original PS3 hardware the earlier ones had, just lacking PS2 essentially The model H and later are very redesigned inside, using revised PS3 hardware, and have the ports on the left rather than the right, have only 16mb of internal storage, while the ones before all had 256mb of storage (and at one point could be used without a hard drive!), and many other cost cutting things. No more ps2 :( but yeah the European model C was partial emulation, partial real hardware. Far better than fully emulated, tho not the best. The model A and B still remain the best, and we didn't get them unfortunately :')

Ah, I remember that first year of PS3. There were very few PS3 games at the time, but I didn't mind since it was backwards compatible and I had skipped most of the previous gen. I picked up Resident Evil 4, FF XII, God of War I and II, Metal Gear Solid III...all for cheap at that point. For me there was no game drought because there were so many games to play until the PS3 titles started to pick up steam.

One good thing about the fat PS3 is that even if they do die we now know what causes it and it's relatively easy to fix if you can solder. I already repaired my 40GB PS3 and it was so nostalgic seeing it come back to life with all the games the way I had them. If you are interested to learn about it search for NEC/TOKIN capacitor repair, it's essentially a couple faulty capacitors that cause the console to die in most cases.

I recently got my hands on a couple of fat PS3's that were used for software development and never touched the Internet or any updates and were sitting in a cabinet since 2008. I pulled those HDDs out and slapped some 500GB SSDs and put CFW on them...then I loaded up that SSD so quick...had to get a USB drive for smaller games. // Due to being a broke college student and later getting a 360 instead, I have an entire backlog of PS3 games I get to enjoy.

When Webman is not recognizing the game, try entering the Webman browser and checking the games tab in there. I find that I can launch newly added games from there even if its not showing in the games folder yet. Great vid as always!

I have a hacked PS3 slim, it is pretty cool. I use it to play PS2 ISOs on mine and most games run pretty well without issues. I also put an SSD inside mine for the same reasons you said.

I've had my hacked PS3 for about 3 or 4 years, so I've had quite a bit of time to figure the system inside and out. I've had no issue using external drives for PS3 games in either ISO or folder format. They run about the same as my internal 1TB. I have a 500GB Goflex drive formatted to FAT32 with one USB connection. There were no power problems. Also wanted you to know, I've used burned discs when ripping PS2 ISOs to my PS3 with no problems. You can also customize the PS3 boot up. I replaced the EvilNat boot up with the original 2006 boot up and sounds. Also restored the original game boot screen after selecting PS3 software.

The holy grail of PS3's. PS2 games look so damn good on it.

Congrats Adam!! i recently did the same with a Wii U and now I use it for Gamecube and Wii in HD

I use this kind of stuff to backup the phisical games as isos on the computer to check if the discs are ok. also, for preservation. a hacked ps3 allows you to install the patches from other sources. sooner or later the servers will be offline so even if you have the disc you'll have a buggy or incomplete game. we are lucky the community does more for preservation than the companies themselves.

Did my first Deep Clean to my PS4, replaced the thermal paste, clean/vacuum the dust and clean the fans with the microfiber cloth,Q-Tips and 91% isopropyl alcohol. I legit can't hear my PS4 anymore and I'm happy about it. Also,putting it back together took an hour. Tip: don't deep clean electronics while high af. P.S. I used Artic MX4 thermal paste

Yes, would love to see a video covering PS2 ISO performance/compatibility on a modded PS3.

Since I got a ps2 with standard AV output ,I wasn't impressed enough until I purchased that component cable you talked about earlier in your videos , huge investment for a slight difference , but definitely worth it .Good job mate !

Webmans most important feature is manually set the fan speed when reaching threshold over certain temperature. Also I read somewhere that the YLOD could happen if you turn off the ps3 right after gaming session, and therefore the fans cannot cool down the system and it overheats. I leave my on for one hour afterwards just to be safe, with the power save 1 hour feature.

Thanks for the input on that drive, totally just ordered 1.

Your best bet for longevity on the ps3 is to get someone to do a delid for better thermals, and replace the nec/tokin capacitors.

The PS3 is my favorite console of all time because it was my first time playing online and voice chat, It was a big step up from PS2 graphics!

27:10 lol, love how you pulled your sleeve over your hand just to add to the effect 😂. You nailed it!

The reliability of an SSD is a good enough reason to swap to one.I went the performance route with my CECHE01 and got a 1TB firecuda solid state hybrid drive.CPU and RSX have been delidded with new pastes, CFW with a custom fan curve, coolermaster laptop cooler underneath as a nice safeguard with some aluminum riser feet.

As usual great vid. I’m still rockin my ps3 super slim for the same reason you got the ssd, I want my console to last a long time and the most common problem I’ve seen on ps3s are broken disc mechanisms so take away that by getting the super slim.

I have 2 Playstation 3s for this reason. I have my original launch 60gb model I use only for PS2 games and a super slim I use for PS3 games. Both have been upgraded to a WD blue 1tb SSD. Worth it because just like you said less moving parts it better. Great video as always!

THE ULTIMATE JAPANESE PS3! Great to see the modding scene for the PS3 is getting better. Still work to be done, but it's coming along nicely.

Dude!!!! Your hoodie is legendary !!!

Also I'm glad I'm not the only one that experienced the PS3 not recognizing ripped PS3 ISO's! It took me (I'm not kidding either) 10+ whole reboots for my PlayStation 3 to find Modern Warfare 3 ISO, and most of the time the console would freak out and completely crash trying to load the game, but now it seems to work.

I really like these videos because you see how the it works not just how make it that way

Been waiting for this one

I followed Mr Mario and got my fat ps3 modded nice to see you do a video on it.

Just gave your video the 1k like brother! I thought I had liked it when I first watched it but I guess I had forgotten. But thanks for the video. Good content

I still need to play more of my PS3 Backlog. I would also install retroarch in that CFW PS3 as well.

you should definitely make a video showing the performance and picture quality of PS2 games on this PS3.

Just got a 20gb model myself. That Delid process is scarry as hell. I'll tell you though, you're happy when you see those thermals. My fan speed before the Delid was 60%-80%, in game to maintain 60c. After the Delid, it dropped down to 30%-50% to maintain 55c. Regardless, It's a loud son of a gun at any of those fan speeds. The peace of mind and a pair of headphones is my cure for the fan noise.

The PS3 slim is also a great system to hack, better than I thought it would be, minus the PS2 full backwards compatibility

That's new to me, i knew that first PS3 versions had PS2 hardware but i thought they would just play the same as PS2 not better. It would be nice to see a comparison of modded PS2 with HDMI board or retrotink vs this PS3, also i wonder how PSone games doing do they improve as well or not.

That glitch about empty space is not actually a glitch. When you are deleting something you need to let console do it for a minute or two. It needs to be idle with multiman loaded ( mmc... software ) or in main dashboard. When it is done deleting it will refresh page so you will know it finished. Same with ftp, it needs a minute or two to delete files. Since you got your games ripped in iso format it might take longer. I recommend using copy function. It just creates folder and copy data from disc into that folder, and its faster, loads better.

Hi! The launch Model of the PS3 in Europe was a bit weird, the PS3 had either the PS2 CPU or GPU (I can't remember which) and the other chip was emulated. While this means it does have much better compatibility than full software emulation, it doesn't support all PS2 games. This also means un-modded Launch PS3s in Europe can also play PS2 games, unlike the consoles that software emulate which can't play ps2 games anymore. Hopefully, this clarifies the info about EU launch PS3s :) Edit: For some reason, I put RSX instead of GPU

Great vid, Adam. Is Multiman and Webman hard to use? Is there a direct store like HShop on the 3DS to find PS2/PS3 iso files?

I also recommend completely gutting the machine to re-paste the chips. It goes a long way in preventing the yellow light of death.

Thank you Adam for the amazing video, as always, I really enjoyed it ! I use one of my PS3s (a hacked Fat model) only for digital PS3 games and import PS3 stuff While I can technically use it for PS2 games too, I still prefer using my PS2 with a 32" CRT for an authentic experience ! But not everyone have or want a CRT nowadays, so indeed, a modded PS3 is the best way to play PS2 games on modern TVs.

That is a monster PS3, love it

By the way Adam if you ever get bored you should try using the mClassic with this thing. I used to have it on mine but switching from PS3 video output to PS2 games really messed with the mClassic. I ended up taking it off. I'm curious if you can figure out what's going on.

Adam we did get the launch PS3 60 and 20 GB here in Europe with PS2 hardware inside with 4 USB ports and memory card readers.

That's bananas. I have three ps2s and never thought to get the big chonkey boi Ps3 to play ps2 games. But that system is still one that I'll gladly play on a CRT

I picked up a slim PS3 about 2 weeks ago and softmodded it and already I've reached nearly full capacity of the 160gb hard drive with just 7 ps3 and 6 ps2 games. Guess I'll be upgrading to a 1tb drive in the new year

I remember you from dc-talk, look at you now 10k views 1 day nice

I have a modded ps3 slim that i purchased last year that came with a 1tb hdd. I only played it maybe a few hours and it started to overheat. I repasted it thinking it would work and it instantly overheated. that's when I googled and found out that I needed to delid the CPU and GPU and that was a process. It sat for almost a year until i finally decided that i was either going to fix it or break it. So i ended up fixing it by deliding the CPU and GPU and now it works perfectly. It works so good that you can hardly hear the fans now. However during this last year I found out that most of the games i was playing are playable on the RPCS3 emulator and run great on my 9900k at 4k 60fps upscaled. So i mostly play them that way now. but at least it works.

It's a good thing that u did get an SSD like I did. I didn't hack mine but a HD will eventually give out. Radicalreggie had like 2 of them and they gave out. I have like 300 games bought and around 70+ physical games with DLC and I still have 400+ GBs left.

I play my PS3 game disk image files through my LAN, which are stored on my PC upstairs and any PS3 games that need to install files to the PS3's local hard drive can do so without the PS3 needing to have a copy of the iso as well (thus potentially doubling up the space needed on your local PS3 hard drive). It also means you can have as large a library you want on your PC with unlimted amounts of disk storage (upto you how much you can afford or already have spare) which is accessible from any modded PS3 in your house with an ethernet connection on your local network (wireless not recommended). This method for me works brilliantly and all my games work fine using CFW 4.84 (which was the latest version when I did the softmod). I think you also need any PS3 game disk in the PS3 disk drive to get it to see it has a disk in its drive and to boot any game image, but it doesn't matter which game disk it is (even a copied disk will do it if burnt correctly). To solve the updated hard drive storage space issue, you have to delete files in a particular folder (I can't remember which folder right now), which stores this data and when you reboot, it updates the storage space for you, but leaving mmCM on for a few minutes idly can tell you your updated storage space too, I think.

34:13 If I may make a suggestion, if you can acquire one, why not do a video comparing the performance of a hacked hardware-based backward compatible PS3 compares with a hacked partial-emulation backward compatible PS3? The partial-emulation models were all we got in PAL regions. Do PS2 games with compatibility issues play any better as an ISO rip? _Area 51_ is my favourite example of such, the PAL version crashes when I try to play it on my PAL partial-emulation PS3. Supposedly the NTSC version runs but is unplayable due to catastrophic frame stutter and lagging, while the hardware-based models play it fine. I'd be interested to see if the ripped version plays any better.

I was on the fence about buying a backwards compatible PS3...but I'm definitely getting one after watching this! Did you ever figure out a work around for the PS1 PAL games?

Very cool. Since you mentioned doing potential comparison video of ps2 games, I’d love to see a comparison of a ps2 game on a ps2 w component to the Retrotink 5x vs the hacked PS3. Great video as always. Giving me ideas!

28:23 I've never owned a hacked PS3 before, but a hacked Vita has something similar called PKGj. Personally, I only used it to download digital copies of games that I owned physically. I never pirated games I did not own. I did it out of convenience, nowadays I just dump the card's contents.

Exactly the video i was looking for.. ❤ ultimate PS2. Thank You.. for my A01 to be ❤❤

That's soo cool!

Im going to sound insane but the PS3 was the perfect machine released ahead of its time. $600 got you a Blu ray and DVD drive (~900 on its own), a PS2 and by extension PS1 (~250, with PS3 capable of higher resolutions and smoother visuals), multimedia applications with their corresponding card readers and enough USB ports to hook up other devices as needed, wireless internet capabilities right out of the box (cough Microsoft) and the ability to run the device as a PC through Linux on the early firmwares. Sony bungled it with lackluster launch games, the extreme newness of Blu Ray, and missing features, plus the idea of paying that much for a “games machine” was rightfully beyond rationale to most customers. Sony did win out but that horrid reveal was the ego shattering kick in the face they needed.

been considering looking into modding the wife's system, not 100% sure that it still works but even if say the blu-ray drive didn't I'd assume modding it we would still get some use out if it? some of those programs seem neat and very useful (as you described PKGI I could already kinda guess that's what it did, haha... )

Oh wow that's cool👍🎮

My PS3 in the UK is a 60GB model with PS2 support I got at midnight launch. It has the shiny silver trim (20GB/80GB models had a dull grey trim), liftable panel with compact flash/memory card slots and 4 USB ports. It got discontinued really quickly but it did launch in Europe. The 20GB and 80GB models came out right after. My friend got a 60GB model also for PS2 B/C but my sister got a 80GB later revision. I still have it for parts but it died when Fallout New Vegas came out. It has the 4 USB ports, memory card ports and says PAL on the back sticker.

7:47 Correct. We got a 60GB model software-based backwards compatible models of PS3s in PAL regions.

Hello Adam, I have a PS3 with CFW, I have experienced the same problem with PAL PS1 games, the solution that I found was: 1) Use Iris Manager to launch them (IrisMan). or 2) After you get the message "you cannot play this game at the current video output", if you go to screen settings on the XMB, you'll notice that instead of the usual 480p 720p, etc options, now you have 576p instead of 480p, then if you uncheck all boxes and leave marked only the 576p, if you go and try to launch the PAL PS1 game again, now it will work.

Well, with that information about earlier ps3 in europe, which I didn't knew, maybe getting this or a slim is almost the same. I just hope someone somehow create a decent solution to get the ps2 to shine on a modern tv. I know it's hard, but maybe in the future we may have something. Dreaming is tax-free. I've thinking about getting a ps3 lately and as soon as I can find a nice deal, I may buy one. There's several ps3 games I want to play and even if just a few ps2 games work well, it's not a complete loss. Nice video, Adam, another great one. For everything ps2, I'm here :D

Hey there just curious does the region free thing need anything special? I already have CFW following Mr Mario but is there a separate home brew I need to play Japanese psx ps2 games

Same here though, the only reason I'd ever do this myself is for a console that plays 720P PS2 games, I am just fine with my PS3 that plays all my PS3 games, with mClassic, but my PS2 games just do not look as nice as I think they could, since all I've got for this on a 4K screen is RetroTink Pro and mClassic for my PS2 titles as it stands.

Ive been checking the cross platform games that took advantage of the bluray 50GB DL disc vs xbox 9GB DL & I plan on playing those larger games on ps3 & everything else on xbox

Launch ps3 in UK was 4port ps2 compatible, I have two. Its very noisy once modded. Got a slim and modded that too for quieter operation :) love backing up my collection and running from hdd with all psn updates. Great video.

The webMAN thing you're mentioning where the games don't show up - you need to scan for content, preferably this is done manually. You just have to select the option "Refresh webMAN Games & XMB" and it's fine. Or do it from the web server, whatever suits your fancy :) (you can connect to your PS3 from a web browser, hence the name *web* MAN hehe) For the "install data" you can do a symbolic link (aka shadow copy in multiMAN) and it saves space that way.

This is really cool. The only playstation system I don't have. I have the slim ps3 but not orginal model which is hard to find.

Will Adam be able to play games that are incompatible with slim models SCPH-7500x and above? Find out next time on Gamerade Z!

CECHE01 vs CECHA01. What's your opinion on which will run PS2 games cooler? The condition and wear on the console from the previous owner obviously dictates the condition heavily. But given best case scenario which would be the better model? I have heard the argument that , because being made later than the A01, the E01 has better reliability. I personally prioritize which model will last longer rather than compatibility. I only care about PS2 games so maybe the A01 is cooler since it use the EE chip instead of emulation via the CELL, like the E01 does, idk. Your opinion would greatly help in deciding which model to go for in the future. Thank you and I love your vids!

Hi Adam , I’ve got 2 original European ps3 phats and both play every ps1 and ps2 games I throw at them , both were bought at the launch for my twins, and somehow I’ve ended up with them both, maybe after I got them ps4s at launch 🚀 they gave me them to ease their consciences lol 😂, I still play them to this day. Niiiiiiiiiiice video Adam. 😎👍👍👍🇬🇧

I have a modded 1tb phat bc ps3 and a modded ps3 slim that I just put that same ssd in. I compared the load times on both with the the last of us. The ssd made a huge difference.

Is PS3 with emotion engine have benefits for PS2 backward compatibility? or it's just same performance with newer PS3 version. In case of using ISO format.

Hi adam! Have you ever shown us your man cave? I woiuld really like to see it

I'm getting a PS3 pretty soon. It's down to either the *CECHBxx* or *CECHAxx* models for full compatibility with PS2. I guess the *CECHBxx* is the 20GB launch model which is all black, lacks Wi-Fi capabilities and the flash memory ports, like SD cards. The USB ports can make up for the flash memory ports such as a PS3 to PS2 memory card adapter. And it also seems there are workarounds or upgrades available to the console for giving it Wi-Fi capabilities. Of course there's always an Ethernet cable. Then the CECHA** is the more familiar 60GB black model with the chrome accent, Wi-Fi capabilities and flash memory support. The common aesthetic giveaway to determine whether the PS3 is fully backwards compatible with the PS2 is the 4 USB ports. I like the look of the all black launch model, so if I find a good deal, I'm gonna shoot for that. *Edit:* I feel I should clarify that even though the *CECHBxx* models aren't listed to support flash memory ports, that doesn't mean their mass storage of the standard HDD can't be "upgraded" to support SSDs (a form of flash memory) as Adam showed in this video, because they can be. So, that shouldn't be viewed as a roadblock. If I'm correct Adam, I'm betting you were showing off a hacked *CECHAxx* model given it's black and chrome color scheme in addition to it's backwards compatibility. *Source:* en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3_models *This reddit post was helpful too:* www.reddit.com/r/PS3/comments/j0otyq/cechb_vs_cechace_differences/?

Hey Adam! Loved the video! I have a question for you. I own the 80GB backwards compatible fat PS3 model CECHE01. Is that a PS3 emulation version of the console? You said in the video that the 20GB and 60GB models use actual PS2 hardware to run PS2 games, while the 80GB model uses emulation in order to run PS2 games.

Nice definitely worth it I got 2 60gb ps3 one is hacked and the other is regular just so I can play online.plans on making other hacked console videos?

Also, if you want your setup to be a bit cleaner you can get a low profile SanDisk 512 gb flash drive and run your PS3 games from there. I have it on mine and it reduces clutter alot.

My favourite console ever 🥰

Modded PS3 is the best PlayStation system ever.

I would say try using the PS3 with the OSSC + Playstation Scart cable for the PAL Playstation 1 game.

This video surprised me. I always thought you were against/not interested in playing games like this.

I remember playing Power Stone 2 when I was very little on the Dreamcast I'm not even sure how old I was

great video. i recently hacked my ps3 as well so learning about a few of the homebrew apps was informative. i will say though, another great method for ps2 games would be to mod an actual FAT ps2 with free mcboot (i used a 2TB internal drive which is amazingly cool) and combine that with a retrotink 5X upscaler. that will give you the best ps2 compatibility and image quality (up to 1080p i believe) on a modern LED TV. this setup will possibly be more expensive? but not by much when you consider just how overpriced the (ps2 compatible) ps3's are these days... plus FAT ps2's are very reliable as compared to the launch ps3's. i still need to get myself a retrotink 5x but it is next on the list for sure.

When you do the slim model can you compare a couple of PS2 games particularly ones that may not emulate well and one that has no issues on either, just to give an idea of what's possible, given how rare the hardware is?

I wish the mod community put in the effort and attention into the PS3 as they did with the xbox360.

Ahh. I remember buying a Japanese launch PS3 after launch from a shady guy from Clist. Best decision ever!

The best way to prevent failure on this console is to turn off the main power from the back. Leaving it on standby leaves the PSU constantly ON. And since you can fry an egg on the PSU, it means the PS3 will cook itself on standby.

Was considering getting a hacked ps3 but part of me leaning towards retrotink 5x pro which makes ps2 games look insane now and can upscale to 1440p which the ps3 cant do.

I have evilnat CFW on my BC PS3 aswell and Burned copies work completely fine (although I've only tried PS1 games)

Watch out before you decide to get a hackable PS3 for PS3 games. The super slims and the later slims can't run CFW. They can still run backups of games and do other things with HEN, but it's more limited. The most recent and probably best models for running CFW are the CECH25XX made before 2011. I just picked up one a few months ago so did some research recently. Anyway, love the videos.

need that comparison vid!

Have you tried component cables for your ps1 pal issue? maybe the hdmi output is not capable of switching to 50hz the ps3 can be weird like that sometimes

Hey Adam i got a Japanese fat PS3 in the mail today. I am just wondering if that stock power supply it came with is safe to use in America?

So I have a backwards compatible PS3 and it's hacked but I don't know how to make it region free for physical discs?

Fat 32 limit is 2tb but having a file manager that can read other formats is useful. I got a fat k and a super slim fat k is my what can be done my super slim is staying factory standard.

My mechanical 💾 drive from 1987 is still stable 😆

Isn't a PS2 with a Retrotink5x better? Or that PS3 you got but do component output into a Retrotink5x?

I love the Fat ps3 but it is just a pain with the system over heating. I have modded the slim ps3 and be able to play ps2 games with the disk being played.

There is only a few CFW that will allow you to play burned discs; one of them is my favorite - Habib CFW version 4.81.

I know you said 720p for ps2 games but do you recommend going to 480p for ps3 games for the frame rate stability benefits? (Just got my 60gb🤘🏼)

Adam! What are your display/game settings for PS2 games on the backwards compatible PS3