Sony IER-Z1R Flagship Hybrid IEM: Bling King

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The IER-Z1R is probably the best product to come from Sony's Signature headphone line-up so far.
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@scottbecker3485 4 жыл бұрын

Astutely observed and concisely articulated! Thanks for this non-chatty and very telling assessment. Great how you give us some quick comparisons with other sets. That helps to round off the sonic verdict.

@Just.May_May 4 жыл бұрын

So much goodness packed in under 4mins. I had to watch it twice!

@allydea 4 жыл бұрын

Great stuff. Thanks for the high quality review. There's so little English content on YT about the Z1R.

@Cobaltickle 4 жыл бұрын

Loving the new review style lachlan!

@protato911 4 жыл бұрын

Just bought mine for a steep 20% Discount, can't wait to listen to them when they deliver it in a few more days.

@Sheisintomalakasdino 4 жыл бұрын

how do they sound?

@protato911 4 жыл бұрын

@@Sheisintomalakasdino the best sounding IEM i ever own and some of the best sound thing I ever heard. It's truely amazing how much soundstage they pack into such a tiny IEM. This thing isn't use for mixing ofcourse, but it's as musical as it gets. The bass is great, not as much as some people expect but the quality of the bass is unbeatable. To me the highlight is the female vocal, it can be a bit recess to some but to me it's realistic, there are so much emotion and souls in the way it present it that you have to try it to believe it. The male vocal is to me the only weakness of the z1r, not bad mind you but certainly not the best i ever heard and can seems a bit weak. The high is great, it hit the right spot but not harsh , though you need to get the right fit for it. Overall I say for 2k it's still very expensive but pretty hard to beat too. There are IEM that cost way more but sound no where as good, but again sound is subjective, try it out yourself is the best way to know for sure.

@Sheisintomalakasdino 4 жыл бұрын

@@protato911 thanks for the write up! nicely done

@shznn 4 жыл бұрын

@@protato911 Did you buy them in EU? Where :) What final price did you pay, may I ask?

@protato911 4 жыл бұрын

@@shznn I bought it at my Local Audio shop in VietNam. Thr price before discount is about 1.85k usd (42mil vnd) and after discount is about 1.4k (35mil vnd).

@bellabeemer4222 4 жыл бұрын

Just bought a pair of these and hooked them up to a Chord Hugo 2. The combination is magical and the IER-Z1Rs tame the brightness of the Hugo to give a smooth extremely detailed sound that I can listen to for hours. These are the best IEMs I've owned but if I had one complaint, it's the case that comes with them. It is shockingly crap for a set of £2K earphones, it's like it was an afterthought with a silly rubbery band to hold the IEMs that doesn't then sit in the case properly because there is a peg sticking up from the bottom in the middle. Very odd!

@pithyginger6371 4 жыл бұрын

I'm glad so many comparisons were included

@sunnysunshine9016 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the review, been waiting for a review of IER-Z1R. A question have you ever tried listening this IER with other device such as NW-WM1a or WM1Z. I also usually use the ZX300. But on my friend's WM1 and WMZ sounds different for the IER-M7 and M9? So sometime I do wonder if the IER-Z1R would sound even better on better DAC or high-end device? Only just recently able to test out a few campfire IER. Again great review, for us IER enthusiast we are appreciate your hard work.

@MinidiscAu 4 жыл бұрын

Having looked at the impedance curve for the IER-Z1R, I would expect it to have slightly more treble as output impedance lowers, ie: it should sound like it has more treble on the NW-WM1A (~1 ohm z-out) than the ZX300 (~2.5ohm z-out): www.0db.co.kr/index.php?mid=REVIEW_0DB&page=2&document_srl=639824 I would not expect it to be a drastic difference, but in my brief listen I found it to be slightly sharper sounding on the Chord Mojo (0.7 ohms) for instance. This might be opposite to the behavior of the IER-M7 and M9, I have not seen the impedance curves for those.... - Lachlan

@madz6n6 3 жыл бұрын

@Minidisc so what are your favorite player for IER-Z1R, i found in head-fi forum they are arguing the ZX300 is better than NW-WM1A the sound signature is ZX300 is very close to NW-WM1A you argree?, and when you upgrade to lastest frimware you got another signature sound...

@sunnysunshine9016 3 жыл бұрын

@@madz6n6 I have WM1A and ZX300 now, still haven't brought the IER-Z1R. But just saying that ZX300 with MrWalkman firmware update this year verions 2020, sound a lot closer to WM1A. Sounded really good. If you have the Zx300 recommended to upgrade firmware. And if you don't like it, you can always put back the original firmware.

@azimpetra 4 жыл бұрын

Try swapping the left and right cables. Maybe that’ll fit better. Also it looks like tin t1/2/3.

@alyysc 4 жыл бұрын

How are these compared to lcd i4? Can u help?

@shaunloh 4 жыл бұрын

How does it compete with the M9 in terms of signature and technicalities?

@MinidiscAu 4 жыл бұрын

They are not really the same signature. The Z1R I would say is overall a bit dryer and thinner sounding than the M9, but there are a lot of little nuances to that. I think the M9 has more mid-bass bloom whereas the Z1R sounds a bit flatter in the bass, but the bass also has more resonant timbre thanks to the dynamic driver (so perhaps slower and more natural). The treble doesn't have the same metallic shimmer the M9 has, and instead sounds much more natural. Soundstage is wider on the Z1R, as expected. Overall I prefer the Z1R, but the M9 is more comfortable for long wear. - Lachlan

@PhantomGett 4 жыл бұрын

If you have a moment Lachlan, sorry for this off topic question, I picked up a set of the Andromeda S and have been looking for a good source. Actually just purchased a ZX300 based on your other video, and the recommendations on SBAF. In your opinion, what is a good DAP to pair with the Andro S and it's wonky impedance curve? Will the ZX300 drop the midbass even further, or is it a decent match?

@MinidiscAu 4 жыл бұрын

The ZX300 is actually a pretty good match - I use my Andro S with the 4.4mm output of the ZX300 the slightly higher output impedance does make the Andro S sound less warm. I think the 4.4mm also hisses slightly less. I also recommend using Azala Sedna tips or another wide bore tip, as that also helps to open up the sound. It will still end up being warmer than the regular Andro but I really do love the sound. - Lachlan

@PhantomGett 4 жыл бұрын

@@MinidiscAu thanks so much for your reply. I've been enjoying the Dekoni Bulletz tips on the Andro S so far, very excited now to see how it sounds when it comes in! I really appreciate your expertise and time!

@aa55claa55cl 4 жыл бұрын

how about vs MDR7550 and ex1000 ? where Sony still not dare to talk about comparison with these legendary earphone

@MuhammadKharismawan 4 жыл бұрын

Did you regret buying it (and Z7II) before many Sony is fall on steep discount in Australia lately? Will you post more in depth review in your channel sometime in the future?

@MinidiscAu 4 жыл бұрын

Personally, no it made my Japan trip more fun. Some regrets on the Z7M2 but that’s more to do with how it sounds...

@malvinvnv 4 жыл бұрын

I miss your voice Lachlan!

@yatharth7449 3 жыл бұрын

How does the Sony IER-Z1R compare to the Sony IER-M7?

@007TEchnoLOver 4 жыл бұрын

Truly is the greatest of all of the greatest.

@hardtarget9969 4 жыл бұрын

Extremely premium earphone at premium price.

@HiFiInsider 4 жыл бұрын

[update] I now have a pair that sounds as good as the demo unit I auditioned. The s/n is near 4000. the demo pair I heard at the shows is amazing, very smooth but the production version that I heard was not the same. I need to find a production unit that sounds like the demo pair for myself.

@MinidiscAu 4 жыл бұрын

The tips make a fairly big difference, could it have been due to a change there?

@febriyantovalentinosiantur6914 4 жыл бұрын

It"s like Tia Fourte. I have the prototype I bought from vitaliy. The sound is totally different from mass production.

@HiFiInsider 4 жыл бұрын

Minidisc I tried all the tips and tips from m9. The treble sounded metallic. The sound was not coherent at all. It sounded like all the drivers are playing independently. Nothing like the demo pair I heard. I am on a quest to find the demo pair sound in a production unit.

@dadanardi5541 4 жыл бұрын

Have you ever cosidered the demo inside store has been played hundred of hours from people, hence the driver's sound smoothen out. Have this particular problem several time with rha t20i and mezze 99 classic, the demo unit is smoother, well i bought them anyway and after 1 month or so usage, they smoothen our. Did a A/B test with the demo unit, they are practically became similar.

@rickg8015 4 жыл бұрын

Hi-Fi Insider I like your channel man.. Mine is the exact opposite with my M7’s though, everything is coherent and nuanced with vivid tonality. But I use mine with wide bore Spiral Dot tips.

@CHO_FAI_WONG 4 жыл бұрын

居然用zx300能推得動嗎。

@geekaboo14 4 жыл бұрын

Your the first person I've ever heard say that these are comfortable

@MinidiscAu 4 жыл бұрын

I wore them for about 5 hours on a flight with Comply foam tips and they were okay. I don’t have issues with my outer ear being too small for the earpiece (which I’ve noticed many do) so it just becomes a question of weight distribution for me.

@isonic1378 4 жыл бұрын

It just get more and more comfortable for me, the longer I wear them.

@GiullianSN 4 жыл бұрын

Amazing IEM, one of the best I had, but that fit...ow man, killed it for me.

@allydea 4 жыл бұрын

Well, at least you found some happiness with the A12t. ;-)

@GiullianSN 4 жыл бұрын

@@allydea Won't lie. Still miss that Z1r sound though. It's an special IEM.

@allydea 4 жыл бұрын

@@GiullianSN As the used market reaches stability, maybe you can give it another try. See if your ears adapt a bit. Fit became better for me as I worked my way through the first month or so. I feel like my ears adapted a bit, but it could also have been something else, like finding better ways to insert it or finding the ideal tips.

@ozunkeskin6919 4 жыл бұрын

@@GiullianSN z1r vs kse1500 or kse1200??

@GiullianSN 4 жыл бұрын

@@ozunkeskin6919 haven't heard the Shure ones, but if you like rumble on the low end, like in RMB and Hip-hop, don't think the KSE will fulfill that sincd they are pure Eletrostat IEMs. But, better get comments from someone that heard all.

@raydioz 4 жыл бұрын

Stage = Wider than the MDR? I has an MDR-Z1R, so I need a point of reference.

@terryRBNF 4 жыл бұрын

its not wider than the mdr version but the mdr headphone is exceptionally wide, z1r is no slouch though and gives good imaging as well

@MrGalib-le4pt 4 жыл бұрын

I want to buy this.can u plz help me?😟

@MuhammadKharismawan 4 жыл бұрын

Has the Z1R completely overhtrown the Z5 for you lachlan? How do you think the Z1R compare to the Z5 and 800st?

@MinidiscAu 4 жыл бұрын

I think the Z1r is the technically superior IEM, but they are different enough that I continue to use both :) The Z5 is warm bassy fun and a good wear in hot weather when I want less isolation.

@rickg8015 4 жыл бұрын

The relatively young designer of Sony’s current IEM line up has created some of the best IEM’s.. I hope Sony retains him. He hit it right out of the park in terms of sound quality (and comfort with my M7..)

@Thanatos4655 4 жыл бұрын

How do they compare to chifi $50 iem

@nicholas802 4 жыл бұрын

@@Thanatos4655 bruh, that chifi is the #1 iem in the market

@protato911 4 жыл бұрын

Finally got mine and spend 2 days listen to it. And I have to say I am really impressed, the build quality is insane and the cables are some of my favourite IEM cable so far. Fits is a bit tricky but I decide to go with Dekoni foam tips and have no problem afterward. The IEM also needs quite a bit of power to power them properly so using a AMP is recommended. Interms of sound, these are some of the best IEM i ever heard which is very surprising to me since I don't really like Sony house sound and the irm z1r is just ok to me. The soundstage is superwide though still retain pretty good imaging capability, very good detail and separation. Bass are detail and well tuned, the best I ever heard, Vocal are a bit recess but still have a lot of detail and sound fantastic especially Female Vocals, though Male Vocals lacks power in some case, though still pretty good. High are detailed and well tune, some of the best I ever heard. Overall I think that for most people the IEM isn't worth its asking price, even when I got mine for 1500usd, I still think its very expensive, however it does allow me to listen to my music in the best way possible so aside from the price, there isn't much to complain. Also for anyone insane enough to use this for gaming, I say it's a fantastic gaming IEM too.

@ozunkeskin6919 4 жыл бұрын

Z1r vs kse1200 or kse1500 if they have diffrences?

@ozunkeskin6919 4 жыл бұрын

And iem z1r or idr z1r?

@protato911 4 жыл бұрын

@@ozunkeskin6919 i haven't heard the e stat shure yet so I can't really compare them, and yes I am talming about the IEM z1r.

@ozunkeskin6919 4 жыл бұрын

@@protato911 i dont understand that how can one earphones are better than hi res special overear headphones. Am i right?

@ozunkeskin6919 4 жыл бұрын

@@protato911 it cant be better than overearphones even if the headphone around 300-400 dolars

@kimjongun5879 4 жыл бұрын

I tried them and I like it but it way too expensive for my reach

@zerousen 4 жыл бұрын

lachlan ily

@MinidiscAu 4 жыл бұрын

aww shucks

@gamenfix2586 4 жыл бұрын

I’m gonna use these on my Walkman

@klg8082 3 жыл бұрын

This comes with 3.5mm jack or balanced jack

@painpeace3619 2 жыл бұрын

Is he Lachlan?

@rupeshdey6053 4 жыл бұрын

sir Indian Price sir please tell him...

@heliopijpe 4 жыл бұрын

The price .... wow ...

@Thanatos4655 4 жыл бұрын

Why did KZfaq recommend this, I have KZ BA10 got it for $35 on Amazon

@Picanhadopapaimolusco 3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@nyso1781 4 жыл бұрын

请问UP是中国人吗

@todaysgrailtomorrowsbeater 4 жыл бұрын

Why are they so expensive?

@hanayokoizomi9369 4 жыл бұрын

There are lot of stuffs out there that are more expensive than this.. not surprising for the flagship

@Mike-nf6nf 4 жыл бұрын

Only $2,499? What?!

@darthmandude 4 жыл бұрын

It's now 1700.

@bikesandfamily3082 4 жыл бұрын

This vs fiio fh7?

@hanayokoizomi9369 4 жыл бұрын

Its up to you.. the price range difference is too great.. FiiO is around 400 USD... The Sony is around 2500 USD

@alejandror2571 4 жыл бұрын

The Fiio Fh7 is a joke. It doesn't perform anywhere near even the Andromeda. Wonky tonality and okay technicalities. Your better off getting Something from fearless audio like the s8p or s8f. Or something from Thieaudio

@MFHRaptor 4 жыл бұрын

Lachlan has a 64Audio IEM? I'm shocked! Where's the review of that!?

@MinidiscAu 4 жыл бұрын

I don’t personally own the U12T, just the Andro S.

@MFHRaptor 4 жыл бұрын

@@MinidiscAu Will you put a review for the U12t?

@ubacow7109 4 жыл бұрын

But they took away the audio jack on their phones lol

@bakkermaarten007 4 жыл бұрын

These should not be listened to from a mere phone , rather from one of their higher priced Walkmans

@ubacow7109 4 жыл бұрын

@@bakkermaarten007 Which still to be fair do have a 3.5 alongside the balanced outputs. You are free to plug them in any 3.5 trs port really.

@helmyabnamufid2114 4 жыл бұрын

@@ubacow7109 it has 3.5 & 4.4 cable. and Sony new xperia 1 mark II has 3.5 audio socket.

@rsr3245 3 жыл бұрын

I just bought mine, then I woke up. Hahahahaha fuck these headphones

@spetnaz777 4 жыл бұрын

I feel like I’m the only person who doesn’t like these and found them very harsh on the ears comfort and signature wise. I also find his comparison to the Valkyrie to be inaccurate. The valkyries had a thicker bass with less impact and the treble was not fatiguing at all but quit thin.

@isonic1378 4 жыл бұрын

clearly u haven't wore them for over 3 hrs.