hey can you do impression which one has better soundstage as whole and more natural sound: sony ier z1r or softears turii?

I have iem from sony that are 6 years old and I paid 600 bucks and now they worth 100 dollars on ali, and the voice harmony with both dtune bodies voice in recording are still best compared to my other 40 iem

To add on noble audio sultan as well. i am curious to see how it fairs with the sonys and the odins based on the price to performance and if its worth.

Hey! I have reviews to both of these IEMs in the reviews section of the site :)

This.

Well BGGAR is probably already on that, heck he's the guy pushing for the MEST the most in KZfaq.

@@MuhammadKharismawan yeah I know and I respect him a lot. Still hearing another guy's opinion can be enlightening as well.

@@MuhammadKharismawan i have both and i would say mest mk2 is superior in everyway

@@DrKen03 its all subjective, there's always people preferring one over the otherI'd really defer from saying "in every way" tho as that just make you sound like a fan boy.

I would say those are different deep insertions

i only heard it like an hour but yeah

Hello, what you think about fit issue of IER-Z1R? I am scared of that doesnt fit on my ears? Thank you

Hello, what you think about fit issue of IER-Z1R? I am scared of that doesnt fit on my ears? Thank you

@@kaankucuk1612 I've read a few very negative comments about the fit in forums like Head-Fi. All I can say is that they're the best fitting IEMs I've ever owned, and the bonus is that they stay in place no matter what I'm doing. Your experience may be different.

The Tia Trio has really good bass, probably in the same conversation. Just a little softer on the attack I think (which is pleasing in it’s own way).

The Odin’s tuning is actually pretty similar - generally, at least - up until the treble. The biggest difference is that it doesn’t dip from 2-3kHz and female vocals are much fuller. I prefer the Odin here. Treble on the Odin is very smooth; maybe a little too smooth. It doesn’t extend quite as far and transient attack is generally softer compared to the Z1R here. So, Odin hits closer to neutral whereas I’d say the Z1R leans more V-shaped as a result. In terms of technicalities, Odin is more resolving, coherent, and sports better positional cues. At the same time, though, it doesn’t match the Z1R’s terrific imaging chops and staging. Both of them have some degree of macrodynamic compression, but the Z1R comes off as more dynamic in my book. On paper, I’m going to say Odin is more well-rounded. But there are certain qualities the Z1R sports which the Odin, and other IEMs, just don’t have.

Well the bulky design isn't just for looks, it's actually creates a large chamber helping to provide a large soundstage and "airiness". They definitely aren't the comfiest IEMS, and some can't even tolerate the fit at all. Probably if they reduce the chamber size they're essentially removing all of the key sound characteristics of the IEM.

If you like sony sound signature and BA iems, the IER-M9 is very nice as well, it has a more mid-bass focus instead of the Z1R's sub bass. It's also insanely comfortable, unlike it's older brother.

@@zach2954 there are so many comfortable iems out there that sound amazing. Surely they could improve the shape and keep the sound the same.

@@johnhayes8476 Not really. Have a look at the Sony video discussing the IER. The shape is due to some design choices, like having coaxial drivers pointing directly to your ear canal.

you will buy one of those after you got successful, both arent upgrades

Hello, what you think about fit issue of IER-Z1R? I am scared of that doesnt fit on my ears? Thank you

@@kaankucuk1612 my ears pretty big so they fit ok....

@@fatdoi003 you are lucky ones that Sony fits on you, in my country, there is no IER-Z1R item to try

Absolutely! Although now Precog actually prefers the Sennheiser IE900's bass to the IER-Z1R, the Z1R is still his top 2. I personally still prefer the Z1R's bass as it extends a little more in the sub bass than the IE900 and has more density for those low notes on hip hop and electronic. Treble has better timbre on the Z1R and no contest when it comes to soundstage, Z1R is much more holographic than IE900. Even in 2023, the IER-Z1R hasnt moved away from anyone's top IEMs!

@@dirty_dan75158 thanks!

yes, still considered top tier by a lot of people

and worth every one of those 1700 💵's imho.

@@sig4974 Agreed

Guess how headphones are built? Just take a guess? 🤡🤡

Rubbish

sony is a "name empire", they do know what thier doing, however we may disagree with the price.