Wow..yeah

My dad had a pair... he gave them to me when I was 10. Im 32, they are still my main headphones.

Seriously didn't you thread-bare the wire yet between the headphones when folded it catches. I'm surprised they last this long been made from plastic but that's good because I just bought some😁

@@cantydarknorthmedia I might be late but does the leather ok after a long time? and it dosent have microphone right? : ( oh well idk if I should buy this or others if you have suggestions would you tell me? :D

This might be the best comment I've ever received lol so thanks a lot. I really was dissatisfied watching other people review headphones and describe sound so I took it upon myself to give people a much better idea of what it is really like to own each pair. Glad you are enjoying it.

you r the man

Popularity, and harshness can be useful when doing live monitoring. In the audiophile space, not so much.

@@metal571 Yeah. A friend's actually convinced me to go with open back, so opted for Beyer DT990s. Was a tough call, have to see how they go. Get the sense they might not be the last pair I ever buy...

@@jcleary1945 extremely sibilant. Highly recommend against those too but see what you think lol

@@metal571 Oh dear! Did see your review, hope I'm one of the ones that like em. In The Mix sold me and they'll be fun to test out. Can always return. Since I've got you, can I ask your personal favourite headphone, for mixing, sub-$200?

@@jcleary1945 K371 easily

Good to hear that this is actually true. It was really more of a guess from my perspective as to how the engineers who designed this headphone said "okay, that's correct" to this particular sound signature when it ruins my hearing every time I put this thing on lol. Makes a lot of sense now, and yeah I did see Zeos be very disappointed in the 70X, which also is now expected. Interestingly, the HD 600 also is supposedly marketed as a reference headphone and it sounds very close to neutral to me unlike these purpose-made professional headphones. Your advice would also apply to the regular HD 800, which has an annoying sibilance spike that audiophiles have chalked up to a minor design flaw. Maybe it was intentional to a degree as those are also marketed now as the pro version, whereas the smoothed put HD800S is the consumer version.

Well from what I have experienced in the audio field - and I am quite new I have to admit - I couldn't say if "reference" and "neutral" really exists. Today I was in an audio store and I heard several smaller monitors which had far more engaging sound than the aforementioned 18k$ PMC monitors. And I am pretty sure they do not cost that much because Dr. Dre is marketing it... Much like Tyll, I also quite believe in the Harman curve. From that perspective the M70x is neutral - apart from some dips and peaks. But I find the Harman curve is not finished yet. When I listen to the M70x I reduce the treble linearly by 6dB from 3k to 10k. And it improves those headphones massively. Which means that the ideal frequency response in this particularly annoying area should be somewhat different. Most headphone manufacturers know that and put massive dips here - even AT uses other frequency response on other models, including the M50x. The HD800 may suffer from the same problem, that it wants to be to close to the Harman curve in this area. As for the HD600, I think it was never really marketed as a reference headphone, but it is such a damn good one, that it established itself as a hifi reference point. And rightly so. It has a very well balanced sound. But from an audio engineering standpoint I don't think it would be "the" reference. "A" reference maybe. However, many pros swear by the beyerdynamic ones, which are truly a polar opposite to them. By the way, you should listen to the SRH840. They are the closed back HD600 (no wonder why Zeos likes them), even their frequency response fit very well. You would love them.

I think my personal reference is the Olive Welti curve. This compensation example from Tyll seems to show after compensation what my ears hear in general as well www.innerfidelity.com/content/first-test-estimated-harman-target-response-curve-various-headphones#vOyvAgoIcEfPtdBd.97

You might also want to check out my EQ on my HD 600 if you ever have an HD 600 lying around and a desire to dial in some parametric EQ to hear what I currently called "neutral". It's definitely a softer lusher neutral than what you're probably used to.

This is the curve, what I meant under Harman curve. But you can see, that most headphones have a dip between 3k and 10k, while the M70x doesn't. In fact it has a 6dB peak at 10k. It is not a flawless headphone for sure, but it follows the Harman curve better than anything I know, except for the Oppo PM-3 (which loses a lot of treble over 4k) and the Ether C (which costs 1500 $). I may play with your settings, but I have no issues with the HD600 to begin with. Maybe adding a little air to it. I like mild v-shape, which explains my love for the M50x.

deo1 I recently got into music and my music is starting to get some traction so I want to take it more seriously what headphones would you recommend for the best quality in production

That's actually a very good way of putting it. Bright, vintage, respected, and still popular indeed

@@metal571 ...let me add affordable, ubiquitous, and begging for modification... i like the 7506's but i HATE fixed cables (on _any_ headphones)... and though their earpads are nice, they deteriorate too easily... if sony gave 'em detachable cables i'd buy a half-dozen right now...

obvi•US if you have a soldering iron it’s very easy to install your own headphone jack.

@@yarb2643 Well, there are at least a couple ways to do it, and they vary greatly in difficulty (and "very easy" is subjective anyway)... As much as I love em, I certainly don't think they're worth the extra effort to add my own detachable cables. I'd rather get beyer, AKG, or Senn and keep on moving'.

Definitely the standard for studio monitoring. These, the M50x, and DT 770 are still in studios all over the world. They're iconic but I also prefer my own pair of LCD-2F so much that I just couldn't justify keeping one around

hyprz haha I already did a 380 review before this recently so trying to ramp things up again.

Btw the twitter link at the top of your youtube banner and about page links to your old twitter account. You gotta update it to your new twitter.

hyprz good call I gotta fix that

muspobear do the 7506 actually have olot of bass cus in onother review the guy says it has olot bass

+Fregend Fan they don't, not relative to the mids and highs. If you want a lot of bass in a closed back the X00 or DT770 are the better choice, the latter also having a lot of treble

muspobear thanks

Yeah there are a lot of fakes out there and the drivers' sound quality (even with genuine examples) seems to have changed a bit over time. I had a used V6 that actually had detail to its top end but the same harsh upper mids. Might have been a much older unit.

metal571 I think the old v6 didnt have neo drivers giving it a slightly different sound. I read that somewhere in a v6 history blog

***** Yeah Wikipedia suspects the same thing. The samarium cobalt magnets were supposedly never used in the 7506 while the V6 used them up to a point and then both eventually went neo.

K371 beats em

+jlhopes 553 is the most accurate closed back under 200 bucks that I've heard so I'd get that

Interesting - I haven't heard about those pads before, but I know there are other replacements out there. The M50's upper mids were also bothersome to me, maybe even moreso with distorted guitar than the 7506. The treble is what really killed me this time around buying these cans though. I heard an M40fs once and it was way smoother than the 7506 but also very "canny" sounding and cavernous like a cheap closed back. Never did give those entry level AT M series headphones a go.

Auray are much cheaper at bhphoto site. The quality on the Audio Technica sucks though have to say and have a more discreet badge ( just a simple ATH M30 and Audio Technica logo on the right ear cup )

That Spirit line... the most uncomfortable headphones, bar none, I've ever tried. Avoid them at all costs lol

The clamp is hard, but the pads are quite soft. When I find a good place on my ears I can wear them for quite a long while. But yeah, surely not for everyone.

The pads were not designed to go around my ears apparently. The Spirit One I tried had earcups designed for non humans seemingly. They rested squarely on my ears and had a tight clamp. Horrible.

Hah I had the same thoughts, I owned the MDR-V6 first then sold them because of the upper mid and treble harshness, then made the mistake of buying the 7506 which was just about the same experience all over again. They're iconic... but then you actually try to use them for music and it's not particularly enjoyable.

+Greek Fidelity lmao I seriously have to replace this stupid thing.

+BackRoad Kingdom I've always wondered about those Sennheisers since a lot of people seem to like them despite being an on ear design.

+45eno fixed in newer reviews

Can you or anyone else here recommend something for listening for music? Nothing crazy expensive...

@@petesorensenguitar Yes the Audio Technica ATH-M40X. Prob the best pound for pound and all rounder headphone I have ever had. And good for listening to music.

@@eddiebaby22 thanks! Will look out for deals!

K361 or K371

How do you define “grain”

It's too bad since they are built very well as Sam formerly from Rtings was reminding me about yesterday

The mistake was not buying these. By the by, the mids are the one thing that people who calibrate this barely touch! Lol, so much for the review.

From what I can tell these are best for the price. Have heard people say the production quality has gone downhill though... 🤨

I would greatly recommend the K361 instead for close to the same price

I like the DT770 80 ohm way better. Check out my review on those

From your DT770 review, it sounds like those headphones may have a little bit too much bass for me. All I really use headphones for is to edit and record our podcast and I really like the flat/neutral/clear sound of the Sony's. After 20 min or so they start to get uncomfortable even with the upgraded ear pads and head pad.

W. Scott Smith I find the M40x to be far more accurate than the Sony and you might find them more comfortable. Stay away from the weird lumpy response of the M50x. The K553 is another step up while remaining very neutral.

+Alex Sawamura nah I would get a K553, that's the more neutral I know of and a lot more comfortable than the M50 anywhere near that price

Awesome, thanks dude! Gonna order now :)

Very interesting info. Will keep that in mind when mine arrive.

You need to try other headphones, a DAC or amp can't fix an inherently old and underperforming driver. I've heard these over and over again and all of them sound the same no matter what they're plugged into.

Fair enough, i own quite a few pairs of headphones and really enjoy the sony v6s. speakers are always a matter of personal taste in the end, its the same in the stereo game. good luck with your channel man.

Need to try Aurvana live

those are not for me.. build quality / comfort is not ideal ..but everyone ears /head shape are different.. I do quite like the sound and vintage looks of the V6's personally.@@metal571

Not a big fan of the Sony comfort either, but all that matters in the end is that you specifically enjoy the headphone, so glad you've found yours

No and no

@@metal571 Oh my. OK. Do you have any recommendation for me in that case? Keeping the wide soundstage of DT770 and with less treble and bass and with utmost comfort? Not something really expensive though Lol

yup, I notice the same thing. If you have a bad music file, these headphones will let you know.

The problem is applying EQ to these and even milder EQ to a K371 is certainly not the same result. You have to try it yourself to see, but by all means, always use what sounds best to you

Dt770

That or K361, just don't use a DT 770 to mix, too V shaped

@@metal571 i'm considering to buy a headphone for music mixing, some audio post production commercials (with voice over & music) too, either K361, K371, HD 280 pro (new model), Yamaha MT5 or ATH40x? Which one do you recommend? Thank you

@@erwinyulista K371

@@metal571 thanks

SRH440 in this case. Nowadays I'd get a K371

@@metal571 Thank you ! have a good day!

+Altema22 yeah these really aren't for music enjoyment, only analyzation

Why won’t he answer you?

Because I died. No it's because the creator studio app that I use to respond to comments is bad at linking to the original video so even I didn't remember what I was wearing. Checked it now - it's a Shure SRH440

HD 600 without question. I would never use the AKGs or DT880s for critical mixing decisions. Both are more colored

+metal571 thx alot

The A900X has a warm and present midrange with some treble sparkle that gives vocals excellent body

Wait... Think I found the answer myself. AKG K361 or if you have the bit of extra dosh, K371.

Indeed

+CyCross that's because relative to the mids and highs there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of bass. Try installing EqualizerAPO and the Peace plugin for it and then using my settings in the description. That's a free system wide equalizer

Sennheizer 280pro?

I'm aware of those cans but never tried them. I think they measured very well on Tyll's machine

Wikipedia confirms 1985 as the V6 intro year and 1991 for the 7506. I've heard both, yes very similar. EDM is fun with their bass but the highs kill my ears.

+metal571 Ok my fault. I actually have the MDR-V900HD. They're the first pair of headphones I bought in recent years ....2010.....and I don't use them much. But they actually sound VERY good. They're more laid back than the M50x and while the bottom end is slightly rolled off...but NOT LIMITED... along with a slightly reduced upper treble...but again not limited..... they have a very familiar sound to me since I always had Sony headphones in the 90's. MDR-V900HD I believe are the upgrade to the MDR- V6 and while I've never listened to a 7506 I have read the reviews that compare this family. I really like the V900HD with stuff like Hiromi and Alex Skolnick Trio but on albums like the new Opeth which is a bit murky in the final master not so great. The new Lady Gaga sounds great on the V900HD.

K361

I would just get a K361 if you are looking at this price range

Alan Stefanowiz yes!!!

They're used by most studios. But only as a monitor

It's true. But my point is money. Needles to say, Howard is a f-ing billionaire and still rocks 100$ headphones. That surpsrises me. He has - or rather had - to wear them almost every day. They must be really comfy. edit: Oh!!! Thank you very much for your reviews!!!! Great work!!!!

Use what you enjoy, that is all that matters

@ I bought a Behringer HA400 headphone amp that I run out of the Scarlett 2i2 headphone out. I connect my Beyer DT770 and my Senheiser HD 280 (which is what I finally bought) to the headphone amp and it’s made a pretty decent amount of a difference. Can’t comment on whether this is the perfect method but it works fine enough for me. There is a KZfaq video somewhere on the Beyer + Focusrite + Behringer combination, check it out.

Didn’t try the Sony at all finally.

These play insanely loud given that impedance. Don't think it'll be a problem given most laptops could even power them

No, no, and no are the answers to that

@@metal571 haha thank you for the answer! if i may kindly ask you to recommend a headphone under these specific parameters: 1) closed back and good isolation (i want to run my headphones as low volume as possible as i feel the years of headphone/earphone gaming and loud musical events have slightly damaged my hearing and i don't want to exacerbate the problem if i can help it 2) great for classical 3) great posititional imaging (for fps gaming) and a decent sound stage 4) bass response isnt a priority 5) must be european, american or japanese made 6) value less than $500 ideally, but am willing to hear you out (the lower the better but really if theyre good theyre worth it 7) detatchable cable would be ideal but not 100% critical, i just dont enjoy the fragility of headphones without this interface - every single pair of headphones ive ever owned (approximately 6 or 7) have had loss off sound in one ear. thank you so much

I'd say K361