Was thinking the same thing. Color real pops.

@@J_Braz_ That set has to have higher end phosphors, i.e. high pigment SMPTE phosphors, unlikely to have Sony's top tier SMPTE-C phosphors but for sure has higher grade than average, Sony usually only uses their SMPTE-C phosphors in their top of the tree broadcast master series and high-end PC monitors like the GDM-C520K or FW900, never heard of a consumer TV that has them,

Thanks! Yeah the 4k removes a lot of the moire pattern.

I just got one free. Great condition, the prior owner was going to recycle it if I hadn’t grabbed it. Even came with the manual and remote in great condition

Makes me sad to think how many do get scrapped

​@@jakobxrme too man I have one of these though thankfully

I'm a big fan of the wega models. Lately I've been interested in why some models are sharper than others for example I had a 32fv300 that was much sharper than my friend's 24fv300 and I did a video comparing a fs12 to a fv15. I think the newer wegas are sharper (around 2005). Maybe they were made better or maybe they have a fresher tube. Maybe both. I don't know

Cool man. Time to play some games.

It's amazing what has been done with the MiSTer. Superior to original hardware in most cases.

Score. Welcome to scanline city

Haha yea my son complains about it too. Maybe a pc crt doesn't have the noise.

I get that too, feel like it's a really shitty super power

Just got this exact model and I had completely forgot about this noise… now after a couple days I can tune it out, but even a couple rooms away or outside my window i can tell that it’s on

@riggel8804 All crts emit that noise unfortunately bu it's worth getting to play light gun games! When I worked at best buy in 2001, selling cameras, which was right next the tv department, now that was somewhat of a hell for me.

@@dlads79That's what I used to say lol. I could walk down the street and know when peoples tv's were turned on hah!

Damn. I didn't know they made them that late. Thanks for the heads up

@@hipnotyq i have a 2005 32" variant

I noticed the PS2 looks better on Sony TVs. Even the 480i games look good.

@@riggel8804 I'm thinking it's the way to go for Silent Hill 1.

@@BoschlooStudios-bx7rg never played it.

Careful with those hd crts. They look okay with 480p ps2 stuff but they are terrible for 240p old stuff. Wish I played my ps2 more.

Me too dude. They are my favorites. The D series look very good to in a different way. I'm going to do a d series review this summer

@@riggel8804 Sweet! Can't wait. Do you have fun reviewing them CRTs?

@@MultiMarvelGeek yeah it has been fun. I have no experience with video or editing so I am growing a lot from this. I have a whole new appreciation for content creators.

PVM or not all CRT look the same I mean all CRT produce the reference quality image right?

I've got 2 32 Ds that I roll out to the backyard and game on in the summer. I love those sets. I remember my d series looks green in the ntsc color mode. so I switch out of that mode. I have a video on crt color corection you could check out. If that doesn't work then you are going to have to do a white balance adjustment. They make special tools for like 100$ that attach to the glass of your tube to help you make the adjustments. Or you could just use a checkerboard pattern and do it by eye...Should be R, G and B "drive" settings in the service menu as well.

Please help me, I haven't been able to do anything for a month. I connect the Sony Trinitron KV-21T1R Sega Genesis RGB TV to my image is shifted to the left, I can enter the service menu, but no matter how I try, I can't use any buttons to center the image. Why can't I change the values? Help please

Ha! Yeah. I always git a tv in tate. All you need is a scart switcher or a component switcher. The good ones don't degrade auidio or video quality. The problem is finding a switcher that is cheap and good. I went with a component extron switcher. Mlig on youtube has a video on switchers

I haven't heard of that. I will check it out next time I'm in the service menu. Thanks.

@@riggel8804 I ended up putting it back on. It says in the service manual to do that after making corrections

Check out this article at part 2 www.aussiearcade.com/forum/arcade/m-a-m-e-emulation-projects-and-discussion/89704-a-guide-to-connecting-your-windows-pc-to-an-sd-crt-tv-pvm-or-arcade-monitor

I was getting ready to paint one of my wegas black and I pulled back on doing it. Of course you want to remove and clean the bezel first. I would use a paint sprayer and talk to some guys at sherwin williams or at a auto body shop about what type of paint to use. I am sure it is doable but if you do it wrong the paint is going to look like do do. Get the right paint so it doesn't peel off in a week and make sure not to drip. If you end up doing it let me know how it goes. Or better yet post a quick video.

I actually started with pvms and bvms and have moved on to consumer sets. I game more on consumer sets than my bvm because I prefer a large screen but I do come back to the bvm from time to time. 900tvl tubes have a very unique and cool look to them.

The service menu on WEGAs is really useful. My favorite feature is the tilt correction. I think it's NOTC in the menu...something like that. I've never had to yoke adjust a Wega. EDIT: it's not NOTC it's TROT

is this helpful for correcting the wavy geometry?

I have a Sony trinitron wega xbr hdcrt I know people shit on them it has tilt and vert. Correction in the regular user menu grant it the adjustment isn’t that massive but it’s nice that they gives you that any wega tv is notorious for bad geometry including mine

Sometimes you can get by with just the settings in the service menu but that's not what I do. If a tv needs a geometry adjustment I open it, get my magnets and a screwdriver. There are pots on the neckboard that correct for geometry. I adjust those as well as use the service mode adjustments and I use magnets. Sometimes a magnet does the trick. Sometimes it's a menu correction. Sometimes it's a pot adjustment. Sometimes it's all three.

Are the flybacks supposed to make noise? I thought they only made noise when they were failing but I don't know a lot about it.

mignit

You can do a lot to a lot to fix geometry on flats if your willing to open them up. I got a video on it .

Probably. As long as you have the right buttons. If not just buy a remote similar to your tv. All sony remotes work with other sonys. And they are cheap on eveay

I take the shitty ones to the dump and I service the good ones.

I would look for ANY crt with component video on the back. That means it has red, green and blue connections for you to plug in your consoles. Sony is always a good bet.

Your camera’s shutter speed must be adjusted down to 60 fps to sync up with the CRT. Otherwise if it’s faster, it will cause a rolling shutter effect because the CRT’s refresh rate is showing the beam scan on your camera

I like em big

@@riggel8804facts

Not exactly. If you're crt accepts component then you can get a transcoder device that accepts rgb on one end and spits out component on the other. No video quality loss. No input lag. RGB and component a near identical signals they are just organized a little different.

Don't be scared. It's more dangerous to jack up your car and work on it than service your crt. I got a vid on my channel with crt maintenance advice

Congrats on your new tv. It's a good one. I've seen people use windshield repair kits on crt glass

It's a crap shoot with crts. Some models are inherently superior to others, for example Sony and Toshiba put superior tubes in there larger models, but often even a inferior tube can look better than a superior tube if it has less use.

I love my xbr200. It's my favorite tv. The build aesthetic is good. It's sharper than my other consumer sets and it has low hours so the colors still look good.

Hadn't thought of that. Maybe I play around with it. Does it squish/stretch 4/3 content?

@@riggel8804 it makes more sense for tv and movies on a crt, because it hides vertical overscan or convergence issues in the corner… for videogames, thats not really an option as most tvs ive seen dont allow an option in the menu to toggle ratios unless it’s something within the game itself, but i use it sometimes when i watch local tv via converter box

@@RetrofIex ah I see.

Potentially yes. I have a video on color correction that talks about this a little. You should research"CRT white balance" for more info.

I think the UK models do but the USA models do not.

Hell yeah. Cord cutters aren't going to stop us.

Plug it in and see what happens. Some look really good. If it looks bad take it to the dump.

I used to laugh when i saw consumer crts being sold for $100 but they are getting harder find. If i was to pay 100$ for a crt it would have to be in excellent condition. This model usually has geometry issues. If you check it out bring something to test it first. You can try and haggle them to 50$.

Sometimes you have to enable component video in the user menu of the tv. Look around. It could also be your cables or you may need to enable component video on your game cube. I know nothing about game cubes.

Cheap vidka is a very. Very. Bad thing

thank

Depends on what you are looking for and how often these TVS come up in your area.

@@riggel8804 there getting more rare and I've noticed some crt enthusiast buying them. I have a kv27fv300 in pretty good shape. How does it compare to that?

@@Tiknuttle The fv300 series is one of the best, It is probably superior to most 24 inch 120s. I have noticed that sometimes the 24 inch tubes are not as sharp as the 27 inch an up tubes. Probabley because the 27 inch and higher tubes were the premium crts back then. Unless your fv300 has issues than the 120 probabley won't be an improvement. But don't let me talk you out of picking up another crt. When I first got into it I just picked up damn near everything. It can be fun and it's always good to have a backup or 2 or 3...or 10 Haha

@@riggel8804 Thanks for the advice man. I'm going to pass on it considering I have 5 crts at the moment. I can wait for a higher end model to come up for sale in my area.

@@Tiknuttle Your welcome. Yea the 120s are not a set I go out of my way to pick up anymore.

git u sum transcoder boi!

I don't think you can do much better than this tv for 90 bucks. Score.

$90 seems like a deal.

Haha probably me. I think I prefer vm off but I like having the option to turn it on or off. If the option isn't in the menu then some of the video settings will have it on and you can't turn it off.

Probably because the 120 has less hours on it. I have both tvs as well and my situation is the opposite. my 12 outperforms my 120 in colors and sharpness. Which of your 2 TVs is sharper?

@@riggel8804 my fs12 is sharper but is different from the 120 the is more glossy colours but the screen is off center on the 12 not sure how to fix it but I decided to keep both, I know they will be hard to come by one day

@@danielsanti9906 Cool, thanks for the feedback. If you do a video demonstrating your TV issue and upload it I can probably tell you how to fix it.

@@riggel8804 the bottom left on screen curbs to the bottom , i don't know how send pictures via youtube lol 😂 thanks for your help. Am thinking there is service menu you can execute and fix it?

@@danielsanti9906 you can try the service menu. My xbr48 review explains how to access it

It might need to be powered on for 30 minutes or so if it hasn't been powered on for awhile. Other than that I would think a recap might do it. You can open it up and look for bad caps.

@@riggel8804 do you know any place thats good to order these caps?

@@jimmypickle6557 I use mouser.com

Yeah i think the 20 inchers typically have better geometry. I have noticed that the 27 inch and larger sonys have better/sharper tu es in them

I think so but people disagree with me. Both are so old the big thing is getting one in good shape. Low hours.good geometry.good colors. Also, if you want one that takes rgb/component there is only one or two black sonys that do.

priceless...unless your trying to sell one. I ain't payen shit.

Theres an xbr200 tate and a wega on the right on the thumbnail

what the fuck are you talking about...green label...oh shit I know what talkin bout. that top right "video" label when there is no video being fed to the tv. I don't know. On my main tv I can't get rid of it. I think on some tvs there is an option in the user menu. fuk around. good luck.

Same issue. When using component input the “video 4” text remains on the top left of the screen constantly

Push display on the remote, it should go away.

@@seasonsalt3228 is there no way to fix this without a remote? Do you need a remote to fix this?

6 inch bvm

CRTs are easy to find where I live. They are usually free.

@@riggel8804 great!

Good question. I didn't know about HD TVs when I got started and I drove 2 hours to pick one up. It was a mistake. Fortunately most wega models are "standard definition" which means the highest resolution they can produce is 480i. This means scanlines and no input lag. There are "hd wegas" but they are less common. I would avoid them unless you want one for a very specific purpose. With 240p gaming they have no scanlines and they have terrible input lag. You're better off on a quality lcd monitor. hd CRTs look like sd crts but you can tell them apart because hd crts will say "HD" plainly on the back where the inputs are.

@@riggel8804 Thanks! Really appreciate your answer. I was avoiding all WEGA's, because I've heard somewhere they weren't good for retrogaming because of lag. Now I am going to look at them closely. I kinda like how they look and I always liked Sony TV's.

@@kosmosyche you're welcome. they are my favorite and they are really common. I think you will find one.

i think my eyes are broken cause when i look at mine i can see the induvidual lines moving down

Thanks! No. I do not recommend picking up that tv. It is a high definition crt. They have lots of input lag and no scanlines. They upscale 240p content to 480i. You would be better off with a modern lcd screen and an upscaler. There are people that like those tvs for hd content like xbox and dreamcast but anything older like snes or tg16 is a no go. Google search hd crt for more info. I used to have one and I took it to the dump.

@@riggel8804 ...thx brother for that valuable information. U saved me a ton of headache. Stay blessed my brother. Much respect from NYC..🤘

@@monsieurmike2072 glad I could help. I got fooled into picking one of these up when I was starting out... I love NYC. Hope to head back someday.

@@riggel8804 ...Awesome!...knowledge is truly power...keep preaching my brother it's helping us. Hit me up when in town. We will have a pint or 2...🤘. I see craigslist ny got a FREE sony kv32fs120 in excellent condition like new ..remote manual the works...out in staten island right now for pickup. May grab that today. It's still up

@@monsieurmike2072 Hell yeah, I'm down for a pint. Thanks for the invite. If the 32fs120 is in good shape it's a great TV. The price is right. Just be ready to move it. It will take 2 sturdy people. Those set's can suffer from geometry issues but some don't. I would go for it.

No. The scanlines are not prominent with the fs120 with 480i movies and stuff. This is one of the best crts for watching 480i content. You're gonna like it.

@@riggel8804 Thanks, man. I just found a 24” FS120 for $50. I can’t wait to watch my DVDs on it! 😎

@@davidbenning10 cool man let me know how you like it. I recommend using component video.

@@riggel8804 Just following up on my experience with the Sony KV-24FS120. Movies and anime shows look amazing on this set using component video! I bought the HD Retrovision component cable and it's been great. I've been watching DVD after DVD of my favorite movies and shows, plus it's awesome that I can change it from 4:3 to 16:9 aspect ratio for widescreen movies. Blacks look blacks almost like an OLED TV (except CRT beats OLED in motion blur!) and the colors are lush and beautiful. Oh, almost forgot, PS2 games look gorgeous and so clear on this set. Thanks to your videos I've learned about these cool Sony models 😎. Thanks, man!

@@davidbenning10 Thanks for following up. Stoked it worked out for you

Thanks for checking out my video. Damn dude. Good luck finding a new flyback. You probably could just harvest one off another TV. Or just grab another TV. They are still out there.

@@riggel8804 I dumped it awhile ago and moved on to the next. 😁

the tate is a 36xbr200 and I think the yoko is a 36fv13

@@riggel8804 the one on the right is 36fv13??? I am trying to find out also because the color of it is amazing

@@shogiten i forget. Its a 13 or 15. It's a crap shoot weather or not you are going to get one with good color. I don't think the model number makes a big difference with regard to color correctness, at least across all wega/xbrs. Hours of operation is more of a factor.

@@riggel8804 ohhh i see so if i get that model i may not be getting that quality

@@shogiten Correct. Most of the inherent differences across wega models are minor compared to effects of hours of use and decay. These tvs are 20 years old.

Sometimes when they buzz it's because they need grease under the anode cap. It's the sound of a short circuit arcing. You have to open it up and turn it on to identify where the short is. I had a tv that would flicker red. I took it to the dump

@@riggel8804 should i get rid of it? should i be concerned?

@@dorianmv4988 hell yeah u should be concerned. That's not normal

@@riggel8804 but do i get rid of it?

@@riggel8804 or do i like get someone to repair it

Damn that sucks. I've never done a factory reset. I think any of your solutions are going to be time consuming. You might want to look into getting someone to go through all the settings with an oscilloscope. That is how the service manual says to calibrate. It is very time consuming. Good luck.

@@riggel8804 Can you hook me up with 240p Test Suite Dreamcast? For some reason itch.io is not working for me so I can't download it myself.

@@strictlynineties i would but I don't have it for dreamcast. I have genesis , nes, snes,and ps1. I found them all on Wikipedia except for the ps1 which is floating around on GitHub i think.

@@riggel8804 wow there's a ps1 version? I just sold my ps2 and other stuff for a dreamcast specifically for 240p test suite. I still have a ps3 though

@@strictlynineties haha. Bummer. Yes there is a ps1 version. I don't think it's official but it works.You can also use a ps2 with freemcboot a usb stick and the snes 240p test suite

They pretty much all do. Other than that they are great sets. Maybe I should do a video down the road on how to correct geometry and convergence.

@@riggel8804 That would be a good video. I'm at the point now where I need to start correcting the picture on my crts

That was the first crt I've picked back up in a dogs age. Still rocking the 32fs100, and now 4 other sets. 😅

@@riggel8804 I loved your color calibration video so I know I would watch it

@@robbystrange4772 cool. I tried to do a video on geometry correction but it turned out shitty. Correcting geometry is a bit of an art and I'm really not particularly skilled at it. But I can get the job done with enough time and effort.

pro tip : you can watch series at kaldroStream. I've been using them for watching a lot of movies during the lockdown.

@Felipe Clayton yea, have been using KaldroStream for since november myself =)

I've got a Frankenstein set I fuk around with. It's not a bad idea to have a experimental tv. And you never know I picked up a fv16 that i thought was crap and it turns out to be my favorite wega.

Buying used crts is like a box of chocolates-- you never know what your gonna get.

@@riggel8804 have you any experience with this tv though? I was born in the 70s I've had tonnes of TV's, just can't remember which ones were the best..had a Toshiba that could turn remotely that was superb. I'm also looking to connect up a Pandora box to this tv..I've got a VGA to scart converter (meant to be a scaler) but it's not done well with a little matsui CRT I've got.

@@dlads79 naa bruh. I live in Cali. aint no scart tvs round here. In my opinion any trini with scart or component thats sd is a good tv--so long as it's not busted or tired. That Pandora thingy output 240p?

@@riggel8804 it says 720, so not sure. I've got a scaler but it's not an ossc afaik

Seems to be missing about 8% of the screen on the left.

Ah. Dumpster find crts. Those were the days

u b talkin bout me transcoder ye? I got 2. Check out my video tilted something like "how to get rgb into usa consumer grade crts". It got the details.

@@riggel8804 thanks. Getting a kv-36fs120 today.

@@reminon ye. That Tv gonna look great with a transcoder. Tv is gaming beast. Movies look good too.

I got a vid on crt service and repairs

@@riggel8804 Can you just tell me what I need to do so that I can change the settings in the service menu? Sony Trinitron KV-21T1R

Sounds like your TV had some issues. I've use the tilt correct many times, on different TVs, but I have never noticed any video noise while doing so. I will keep that in mind next time I make an adjustment. How do you turn VSM off in the service menu? What is the setting? Is it just called VSM?

@@riggel8804 If you do a quick google a few other people had the same problem. . Looking at my notes I might have confused a fs120 for a fs100l. Can get kinda confusing since I've had so many of these.A few years ago some random person said to change the tilt settings and it cleared up. Granted the picture is slightly titled, but you can adjust the yoke to fix it by a slight rotation.I believe it is caused by oscillation of the microprocessor that controls the tilt funcntion. but yeah tvs that use the BA-6 chassis often have VSM still enabled even when turned off. Some don't. I found it in a post on shmups by Ryeno. FS120 definitely has VSM enabled even when turned off in the menu. imgur.com/a/pMMV2Hx So yeah just check your service manual + google.

I have a 24FS100 that also has orange reds. Any idea how to improve them?

@@Biospark88 Try messing with the service menu. I forget the name but there's a setting that helps. Just make sure to note original values!

It always looks worse on the grid than during normal use. But geometry issues are real.

Yea I noticed that too. I talked about changing video settings to turn the VM off and on in my fs12 vs fv15 video. What do you think about the VM setting? Do you use it for anything?

Yeah dude. I still lose my mind if anyone places a beer on a stereo. They should make amps with a rounded top just so no one tries to set anything on them. Not cool. I got a video on adjusting white balance but if it doesn't bother I wouldn't worry about it.

I just picked up a kv-36fs100 few days ago. So far I'm loving it. I like it much more then my kv27fs100 to be honest. Gonna sell the 27in

What are shades?

@@riggel8804 Sorry, wrong translation.. Curtains.. :D

Pretty good trolling tactic.

There is not one Trinitron look. There are many different looks. Composite on a consumer grade 1990 trinitron with the Genesis is at the bottom end of sharpness. On the other end you have RGB to a 900 line BVM with the MiSTer. Here are a bunch of examples of different CRT looks: S-video looks different than composite and component; a one chip SNES looks different than a SNES mini and the 240p wii shop games look like doo doo; the old curved glass Trinitrons look different than the later generation flatscreen Trinitrons. I have been wanting to do a video on all the different CRT looks. It's a cool subject I don't here a lot about. You can get a really good idea of how a CRT looks by watching some of my uploads in 1080p on an lcd screen. My pc engine cutscenes video is good. My Double Dragon playthrough is a good example of a very sharp Trinitron look. For a softer look check out my xbr48 upload. I have composite footage at the end of my upload comparing component to rgb.