Sosso 1941 Italian Prototype Pistol

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The Model 1941 Sosso is a huge Italian experimental semiauto pistol designed by Giulio Sosso. It uses a short recoil locking mechanism and is chambered for standard 9x19mm Parabellum ammunition, but its more unusual feature is its magazine. Instead of using a traditional spring and follower, the magazine body holds a 21-segment chain, like a machine gun belt. The chain is rotated one position each time the pistol's slide cycles. This would prevent problems related to magazine spring fatigue or varying pressure between the first and last round, but it also introduces a whole new set of potential problems.
Only 5 of these pistols were made (by FNA Brescia), with the other 4 of them being presented to significant Italian political and military figures. It was not adopted or put into any sort of serial production for reasons that should become very clear once the internals of the gun are seen. One could probably buy a dozen Beretta 1934 pistols for the cost of one Sosso...
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@ajvanmarle 5 жыл бұрын

That moment when even German engineers look at you and say, 'You're over-thinking this'.

@ScottKenny1978 4 жыл бұрын

And the Swiss machinists say, "that's way too much work, dude" 😜

@j.troydoe1278 7 жыл бұрын

So it almost has the capacity of a Hollywood revolver?!

@magoid 2 жыл бұрын

Almost, but is not quite there yet.

@ZGryphon 7 жыл бұрын

"Several of these pieces come out when you shake the gun" is just not a sentence you want to hear...

@eazy8579 4 жыл бұрын

It fits the the name tho

@Isegawa2001 4 жыл бұрын

@@banmadabon It might cheapen the process, and if it works just fine it's not a big problem. But it's still not ideal to have something so loose when those pieces will be cycling at high speeds thousands of times. I still think this is quite an interesting pistol, though.

@jessemarcus 3 жыл бұрын

how did the gun operate....it was Sosso

@jackmcslay 7 жыл бұрын

It's so intricate that listening to the explanation of how it works feels like someone describing a rube goldberg machine

@merlemorrison482 7 жыл бұрын

almost (?) qualifies for steampunk....

@matthewmcbroom8571 5 жыл бұрын

The Sosso"s magazine is one of the most unique and innovative things I've on this channel.

@rhinovirus2225 7 жыл бұрын

This gun reminds me of those really old cartoons where the car mechanic fixes the broken down jalopy by pouring a bucket of gears and mechanical bits into it.

@WAQWBrentwood 7 жыл бұрын

I've heard of "automatic" revolvers, This is the first time I've seen a revolving "automatic" 👍👍👍

@eatthisvr6 7 жыл бұрын

is it any good? its soso il get me coat

@gabenplznerf1093 7 жыл бұрын

DAMMIT I WAS GOING TO SAY THIS

@fatshadow2062 7 жыл бұрын

You beat everybody to it. Well done sir. All in all though, it's a soso joke to be honest.

@JenniferinIllinois 7 жыл бұрын

eatthisvr6 Darn it! I need to be faster on the comments. 😀 -Jen

@taylordavison6849 5 жыл бұрын

2 years too late to the party, am I? I will not miss the next pun!

@therugburnz 4 жыл бұрын

@@taylordavison6849 a gun pun is a ton of fun son, I'm done, but you won this one 'cuz no pun was done.

@crazyfvck 5 жыл бұрын

One MAJOR benefit to that magazine design is the ease with which it can be loaded. Some double-stack pistol mags are thumb killers! I would love to have a gun with a mag like that :)

@thatguydennis2 7 жыл бұрын

The pistol stand looked like something totally different to me at first. That's what I get for watching Forgotten Weapons past midnight.

@DanielSvensson666 7 жыл бұрын

That's probably one of the coolest pistols you've shown (in my opinion) and it's all because of the mag.:D

@AttemptMade 2 жыл бұрын

The magazine is really quite interesting in that it has some of the benefits of both a belt and a magazine. If you load it correctly, the first round is available immediately, and there’s no complicated manual of arms just to get your fancy belt to feed the gun, at the same time it also has much higher capacity too just like a normal belt, but unfortunately it is limited unlike a normal belt.

@AttemptMade Жыл бұрын

Maybe, maybe not. Isn’t it better to be prepared and not need it?

@VladamireD Жыл бұрын

@@justforever96 in a pistol, I'd agree, but consider the design of this magazine in something like a SMG or PDW scale weapon, where you'd want a higher capacity-to-size ratio? If it can feed that type of weapon reliably (and I can't think of a reason why it couldn't), it might be worth the slightly more complex mag.

@NM-wd7kx 4 ай бұрын

Here's a weird thought: this thing is closest to an auto revolver, sure it has a belt instead of a cylinder, but both are ultimately rotary in nature.

@calvingreene90 5 жыл бұрын

I love that magazine load dozens of them and stick them in the cabinet without having to exercise them and have them all work when you need them.

@thomasdillon7761 3 жыл бұрын

Episodes like this make my day. The obscure weapons like this really are forgotten weapons.

@georgekoribanic2524 2 жыл бұрын

I really like the shoulder stock for this one, its probably my favorite out of all the holster/shoulder stock pistols. It compacts down to be pretty much the same size as a regular holster, including the retractable metal thing. Plus it has the ridigty aspect too so it could be used as an effective shoulder stock. Not bad.

@JenniferinIllinois 7 жыл бұрын

Curved magazine in a straight grip - wasn't expecting that. -Jen

@JohnHughesChampigny 3 жыл бұрын

And curved the other way than all other curved magazines.

@gregsg2351 2 жыл бұрын

And that is reversed

@mikelafreniere742 7 жыл бұрын

That has to be one of the most interesting magazines ive ever seen

@PsiCommando 7 жыл бұрын

Hey, this is quite comparable to an Italian supercar- it's weird, different, stylish, overengineered, and it will decide to lock up at the worst moment imaginable :)

@mast6209 7 жыл бұрын

exactly!

@petesampson4273 6 жыл бұрын

I haven't had a chance to work on any Italian cars but I've worked on a few German and British sports cars. The German cars are complicated but the actual repairs come down to replacing a component. British sports cars, especially my much beloved Triumph Spitfire, are just effing weird! My Dad was in the computer industry and worked with a lot of Brits in the 60's and 70's and this is how he described a British committee would work. "All the guys needed would finally arrive and sit down about 10:00AM. Then they would draw for an hour or so until someone would say 'That'll do nicely, let's go to the pub.'"

@falloutghoul1 5 жыл бұрын

@@petesampson4273 Sounds like my kind of job.

@cericat 4 жыл бұрын

I really wish there'd been a few more made just for the ability to see how well they operated. Truly novel, the only place I've seen a mechanism like that in guns is some of the artillery elevators.

@wisewarnanazara317 7 жыл бұрын

Very rare occasion where italians out-over-engineer swiss and germany.

@CaptainGrief66 7 жыл бұрын

Wisewarna Nazara It's impressive how Italian guns no matter how complicated still work quite nicely

@CaptainGrief66 7 жыл бұрын

Nope .u.

@keithmoore7390 7 жыл бұрын

hopefully your not talking about Shitretta!!! those guns can't hit the ground if you dropped it!!! shitty triggers to!!!!

@lukestoneham2187 7 жыл бұрын

You sure sound like an unbiased and reasonable person.

@CaptainGrief66 7 жыл бұрын

keith moore So wrong. And it's Beretta. Repeat. _Be-Ret-Ta_ Easy.

@ianc4901 7 жыл бұрын

Judging by it's (ludicrous) level of complexity, I would think this wasn't just dreamed up as it is, there must have been a predecessor that it 'evolved' from. That would be very interesting to see ! If it was completely designed all in one with that magazine, it must have taken someone a very long time, that's enough to drive someone crazy, no wonder nobody wanted it !

@russbilzing5348 2 жыл бұрын

This reminds me of the Dardick revolver, though that didn't have a removeable magazine. I'm always pleased to see another video of yours, whether new or old.

@mariorossiexcite 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you from Italy for showing us this gem!

@spyhunter6411 7 жыл бұрын

Id really like to see a demonstration of the magazine being loaded

@fetishartist137 6 жыл бұрын

I agree, and I'm curious to see if it's easier to load than a typical high capacity mag. Might have been an alternative to sore thumbs ;-)

@TheNinjaDC 5 жыл бұрын

I guarantee it is easier to load, as there is no spring tension to deal with. That said, with a maglula style loading device, loading high, high capacity is extremely easy. I finally bit the bullet after getting a FNX 45, 15 round of 45 is great, until you have to load it. The downside of a maglula is your ammo bill will go up, lol.

@confuseatronica 7 жыл бұрын

it brings up something I've noticed about stampings- people mention them like stamped sheet parts are cheap or crude compared to a milled part, but sometimes they can be really pretty. There's a smoothed out look you get when you design a part for stamping that I like.

@farmerboy916 7 жыл бұрын

This has so many ideas I love (and thought of independently). I'll probably rewatch this so many times

@Schmidt54 7 жыл бұрын

For some strange reason, the design very roughly reminds me of the Beretta gun designs, like the 92. If you squint really hard that is.

@itsapittie 4 жыл бұрын

"I want a really complicated pistol with a lot of small pieces that are easily lost" said no soldier ever. :-D

@JerryEricsson 7 жыл бұрын

Just goes to show you, that some folks have a better idea, others just think they do. This was a very interesting gun, and that magazine design is simply wild, it sort of makes sense in a simple way. The loading of the magazine would be much easier with no spring to fight, especially on those stiff last few rounds that seem to cut little grooves in my old and tender fingers.

@QuantumCat76 7 жыл бұрын

Is this the only semi-automatic suited for russian roulette? 😜😜😜😜😜

@GECKOZFTW 7 жыл бұрын

Jaimy van der Horst The Guycot chain pistol would work too

@keithmoore7390 7 жыл бұрын

yep! the rest it would be Pollock roulette!!!!

@JonatasAdoM 7 жыл бұрын

Italian roulette!

@eroc1970 6 жыл бұрын

There all suitable if you wannna die

@jackandersen1262 5 жыл бұрын

My Channel Lacks Originality that would be a double action pistol, not semiautomatic.

@timothyboles6457 2 жыл бұрын

Gorgeous jewel of a pistol and lock mechanism. Cool magazine too. Pity so few were made. But all the machine work must have cost a fortune

@T4nkcommander 7 жыл бұрын

Prototype videos are always my favorites, never fail to be very interesting.

@williamprince1114 7 жыл бұрын

I wonder if the magazine was a great idea or it was a solution in search of a problem to solve. Sosso had a interesting idea with the use of sub assemblies and the use of a few stamped parts. If he had expanded on that to produce a handgun that could be made economically under war time conditions he might have had a significant weapon system.

@craigpalmer9196 7 жыл бұрын

your not fighting the spring when loading, which I like

@Clay3613 7 жыл бұрын

It manages to look futuristic and outdated at the same time, what a feat.

@Tito_Viera 7 жыл бұрын

Guys tell me that I'm not the only one who can't stop to watch new videos of Inrange+ForgottenWeapons.

@jacobhobbs6918 7 жыл бұрын

I'm always interested in mechanisms of these old weapons as I am interested in home builds... this one is a bit complicated as many of the old ones are. but I always learn from these videos. keep it up Ian.

@enoughofyourkoicarp 7 жыл бұрын

So, the Sosso holster was only so so? Well that's nominative determinism for you. :P

@criffermaclennan 7 жыл бұрын

what a gloriously complicated hand cannon that is

@Riccardo_Silva 10 ай бұрын

The gun is overly complex, the magazine is not. I wonder why no one else ever made something similar. Simple, functional, advantageous, foolproof and innovative. In simple words, that's genius!

@Hal_bowman 7 жыл бұрын

Ian! just wanted to say thank you for alway doing these awesome videos. never been into guns until recently. now I am in love with the mechanics, so I have been watching your videos for weeks. sorry I can't join the patreon

@rafaelcarvalho3928 5 жыл бұрын

impressive mechanics. thanks for the video. great video!

@slowbutsure504 7 жыл бұрын

Best channel on KZfaq. Hands down.

@rhaivaen 6 жыл бұрын

Looks amazing, love the chunkiness of it ;)

@MikeBaxterABC 7 жыл бұрын

I have a turmoils life :( ... you have no idea :( .. I won't bother you all with details ... but listening to Ian talking about cool firearms ..makes me so relaxed .. my favourite hobby! .. great video Ian .. keep up the good work :)

@Reckec 7 жыл бұрын

Great video. It's these type guns that I watch this channel to see. (Among others) the obscure, unusual and interesting.

@jacksoncz8536 7 жыл бұрын

Very cool pistol, thanks for the episode

@Michael_Smith-Red_No.5 7 жыл бұрын

" There's this gun that's been on my mind. All the time, So-Sossodio, oh oh. "

@teodorholmstrom2791 7 жыл бұрын

Nice gun! Keep up the good work!

@Yaegerman513 7 жыл бұрын

That disassembly and explanation of function fried my brain

@marcppparis 7 жыл бұрын

Very cool. I love the forgotten innovation

@requiemaeternam3406 7 жыл бұрын

i've seen the admiral ones in the museum of the navy in Genoa but man you showed me that magazine it's a really awesome sistem imo thx for video ian keep the good stuff flowin ;)

@owainrichards4372 7 жыл бұрын

Hi Ian love the videos glad someone is bring to light some of these amazing guns and was wondering have you ever had the chance to play with a Charlton automatic rifle?

@Xelbiuj 7 жыл бұрын

I love the stock/holster combo.

@matejmatej3554 7 жыл бұрын

really cool gun nice video and nice explanation greetings from Slovenia

@Phobos_Anomaly 4 жыл бұрын

Lasko Pivo, prosim!

@hellraiser666666 7 жыл бұрын

keep up the good work! learned loads again :)

@spef7396 7 жыл бұрын

another great video, keep it up!

@aquadragon1 7 жыл бұрын

Nice one like the magazine ID.

@sebastianoraffa2104 2 жыл бұрын

Nice of you to always be concerned about your Italian pronuciation when presenting Italian guns; it's fine man. Great videos

@999squidy 7 жыл бұрын

wow very complex pistol looks amazing and helghasty

@lucignolo8333 3 жыл бұрын

That’s exactly what I thought, weird magazines does feel very helghasty

@giuseppepuglisi3980 7 жыл бұрын

Cool looking gun! I really appreciate your work,sir. Is this in a museum or did you bought it yourself?

@Clipazine 4 жыл бұрын

Is it just me, or does this gun have a really nice holster stock setup? Seems like usually these sorts of stocks are huge and bulky and made of wood but this one is just like a regular (but somewhat heavier) holster that can expand into a stock. I'm not sure how good of a stock it would be to use but the concept is cool.

@sergeykoshelev4566 4 жыл бұрын

Just when your day is over and you think, you've seen it all Ian finds another weird stuff...

@andrealoi4426 6 жыл бұрын

Your italian pronunciation is almost flawless. And, as always, great video!

@ericn7677 4 жыл бұрын

Ian pulls a banana mag out of the pistol that has a chain drive conveyor belt system. I'm going 'WHAAAT'. Good show.

@worldtraveler930 7 жыл бұрын

That's "So" cool that I would Love to have a reproduction of my own.

@costantinoandruzzi2219 7 жыл бұрын

A strange cross between a Beretta and a Tokarev with an assault rifle-like (but smaller of course) magazine. Pure Italian genius!

@Megladong 2 жыл бұрын

Ian. Your the man.

@athodyd 7 жыл бұрын

FRANCESCO PRICOLO, CHIEF OF STAFF OF THE REGIA AERONAUTICA: boy those are pretty cool guns you guys have ARTURO RICCARDI, GRAND ADMIRAL OF THE REGIA MARINA: yeah it rules PRICOLO: do you, uh, do you think he made one for me PIETRO BADOGLIO, FIELD MARSHAL OF THE ROYAL ITALIAN ARMY: pretty sure they only made four of these, my dude PRICOLO: oh... okay

@chapiit08 7 жыл бұрын

From far away resembles a Stechkin and the magazine chain system reminds me of the 50 round Ruger 10/22 teardrop magazines.

@bAkewelle 7 жыл бұрын

Wow, looks good.

@zacharyrollick6169 3 жыл бұрын

I actually like that stock.

@alexm566 3 жыл бұрын

this comment aged really well

@kwacker45 7 жыл бұрын

your pronunciation was so so. 😊😊great video as always

@yPhil 7 жыл бұрын

Another cool video :) Ian, still no 1888 Krupp Vintage Saturday?

@francescozanardi6350 6 жыл бұрын

Very fantastic piece, unobtainable also in Italy

@Capy-capy 2 ай бұрын

Watching this immediately after your piece on the easily-disassembled MAC 50 is an experience on its own right 😂

@Kevin-mx1vi 3 жыл бұрын

So many moving parts that when it's fired the mechanical noise drowns out the "bang". 😁

@thegoldencaulk2742 7 жыл бұрын

And here I thought you couldn't make a weirder magazine than the Evans rifle

@Messerwerkstatt 7 жыл бұрын

cool to see it, thanks

@federicoruffini7513 7 жыл бұрын

You pronounced Giulio and Brescia pretty good, even here if I had a friend with sosso as surname I would had problem pronouncing it

@robnunya572 7 жыл бұрын

That's actually quite a handsome piece. As has been said, it's very Beretta.

@alexanderbush2856 7 жыл бұрын

I have a question for you Ian, throughout most if not all the firearms i've seen, the mainspring is relatively narrow and long. Even though the total bolt travel could be the same if a shorter stiffer spring was chosen, the advantage of saved space would be huge, so why continue to go with a longer spring??

@bryanthebryan2638 5 жыл бұрын

Such a weird design. So cool.

@anilachar323 3 жыл бұрын

Dr. No scene: Professor Dent unloads his M1941 Sosso into the dummy under the bed covers. Bond says:"It's a Sosso. And you've had your 21..." "Thwup ! Thwup! "

@Phos9 4 жыл бұрын

It would be cool if this had a revolver style double action trigger so you could advance the magazine with just the trigger. It would also be even more complicated.

@jeremiahdillard9201 7 жыл бұрын

that magazine is a revolver cylinder thought right out of the box...or into a box?

@piersp38 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jan , fantastic find ! Never Heard about this gun . It Is Amazing , a masterpiece of engineering ! You really deserve to be welcomed to Our veteran festivals and enjoy the parties with some good Cup of Prosecco ! By the way , I Wish i could buy It !

@ashleysmith3106 5 жыл бұрын

I can just imagine the horror of the machinist when Sosso gave him the drawings of this and said "make this pistol for me" (in Italian)!!!

@wimzy98 7 жыл бұрын

Is the magazine release blocked by the attachable stock/holster? Or can the magazine still be changed.

@Crimsonier 7 жыл бұрын

reminds me of that guycot pistol you showed that used the volcanic rounds that had a "belt" mag in the gun

@dex6147 7 жыл бұрын

Yo Ian, is that locking block somewhat like the locking system on that new Hudson H9?

@vvvppp6021 4 жыл бұрын

German Engineer: ''we have zhe most complex mechanisms!'' Italian Engineer: ''Hold my pasta''

@Agentcoolguy1 7 жыл бұрын

Damn that's a cool gun.

@theenjoyer1445 2 ай бұрын

the only semiauto pistol you can successfully play Russian Roulette with that doesn't have a 100% chance of a loss

@pscwplb 7 жыл бұрын

How does it shoot? "Oh, only so-so"

@sniperboom1202 6 жыл бұрын

Boooooooooooo Boooooooooo booo on you

@italianduded1161 6 жыл бұрын

wonderfull pistol

@JerresYouTubular 5 жыл бұрын

Watching this video for the second time a year later i see that there is indeed an internal stamped serial number on the frame that reads: '5'... I wonder why you were told it was designated as serial number '0'? Is there a '0' stamped on it elsewhere?

@erikgranqvist3680 7 жыл бұрын

Cool gun! I can see a lot of things that can go wrong with it, if used a lot in battle conditions. Wear and tear, not to mention all small bits you could loose when cleaning the thing out on the field. All that would be serious concern, had the Italians bought the gun.