Compare the softly-tinged twang of Don Knotts (from Morgantown, West Virginia) with the honey-sweet drawl of Andy Griffith (from Mount Airy, North Carolina).
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@RichardDCook6 жыл бұрын
I think the video makes a valid point. I'm from central West Virginia and growing up Griffith's accent seemed natural and familiar to me. I didn't perceive Knotts as having an Appalachian accent, but then again most of the people I talk to from up in the extreme north of West Virginia don't sound like West Virginians to me. I work with a guy from Mt Airy and while his accent seems natural to me he doesn't have the caught/cot merger that I do.
@jessicalinn70775 жыл бұрын
I never noticed this! I’m from Fairmont which is like 30 mins from Morgantown and the accents of northern WV and southern WV are soooo different
@Tri-StarTN2 ай бұрын
Northern WV(Morgantown) starts to sound like Pittsburgh.
@yolandaponkers1581Ай бұрын
Wv could really be two states. The culture of northern WV is entirely different from the southern WV culture. It really is where the south meets the north. ❤
@TravisBickleNYC762 жыл бұрын
Knott's was born in WV, Andy was born in NC. Definitely a difference, yet similarities on the vowel stresses. Don has more twang while Andy has more drawl.
@SlapstickGenius23 Жыл бұрын
The northern West Virginian Appalachian accent seems to be influenced a bit more by those of rust belt states. The northern panhandle being somewhat near Ohio and Pennsylvania also helps.
@katttmandoo5 ай бұрын
From the mid Ohio valley, West Virginia. My dad always spoke with a mix of them both. People at his work actually nick named him Barney. I have a retirement picture of him with it printed in parentheses.
@RichardDCook6 жыл бұрын
I'll take exception to Bobby Lee saying the video is pointless. I think anyone in the acting profession including Griffith is aware of their voice, whether or not they took formal voice lessons. They can speak with the accent they spoke growing up when they want, or they can move their accent closer to General American when they want. I know I can, and I'm not an actor. I don't think Knotts would move away from his natural accent for this role. It's the great thing about these two actors in these roles- they're able to use their natural accents. I hate all the movies that have Californians and New Yorkers doing bad "Southern" accents.
@Hezigrimm4 жыл бұрын
It is and it isn't. I have heard Knott's accent in Wv. However, I have heard it all over Wv. I lived in southern Wv my whole life and have heard accents just like his. Anymore I don't say it's where you're from in Wv but when you grew up mostly and who you spent your time with.
@jeffreyhoward63192 жыл бұрын
I was raised in Charleston, West Virginia and i grew up hearing some native West Virginians speak more of a northern accent while others spoke with more of a southern accent.
@cyrilgigee46303 жыл бұрын
Northern Appalachia you say. Try where I'm from, Pennsylvania's Northern border with New York. We're Appalachians that are so Northern we're... kinda more Northern than Appalachian.
@f3n1x344 жыл бұрын
Mount airy worships Andy. My grandparents couldn’t stand him in highschool tho lol
@jameshuban65152 жыл бұрын
My mother went to school with him. According to her, Andy was just a tall, skinny, redhaired boy who liked glee club. One story she would recite about him was he didn't know how to ring a chicken's neck. (don't ask me) It seems my grandmother told him to go outside and take care off a chicken. Well minutes later there was all kinds of squawking going on outside. She and her mother went to the door to see Andy swinging a bird by the head above his head. The bird was pooping all over the side of the house. My mom said my grandmother grabbed the bird and snapped it's neck while calling him a dumbass. My mom said it was one of the few time she heard her mother curse.😃😃
@MeadeSkeltonMusic9 жыл бұрын
West Virginia is not really North. That is Central Appalachia. Virginia is definitely the South. Mount Airy, NC is right near the VA state line.
@MeadeSkeltonMusic9 жыл бұрын
Alden P it depends on what part of West VA. The part that goes up into PA Ohio obviously is Northern. The Eastern Panhandle and on down is much more Southern.
@cult_of_odin8 жыл бұрын
Depends on which side of 79 your on. Toward Morgantown, Wheeling and Parkersburg the accent takes on PA and OH influence but anywhere south of Clarksburg it's Appalachian American to the State line. Not southern but takes more from it then Northern. I'm originally from Barbour Co and we have a very distinct accent.
@BobPapadopoulos8 жыл бұрын
+Alden P NY/PA is not traditional Appalachia. The "Appalachians", as in part of the mountain chain named after the cultural area? Sure, fair enough... but not really the same thing. As far as West Virginia: They're geographically mid-Atlantic. Culturally, they're rural mid-Atlantic with southern leanings, but a good deal of southerners don't regard them as such for historical reasons. Virginia would be in much the same boat if they hadn't seceded, but due largely to the fact it was the original capital of the CSA and most of its leaders were from there, it doesn't face the same scrutiny.
@MeadeSkeltonMusic8 жыл бұрын
Bob Papadopoulos If WEST VA/VA is Mid Atlantic why is Kentucky considered the South? Shouldn't KY be Midwest ? Virginia is much more Southern than KY. Virginia is the Upper South. Mid Atlantic states are NY, PA, and NJ, and part of DE.
@BobPapadopoulos8 жыл бұрын
Meade Skelton That argument kinda falls apart when you note that most don't consider Kentucky southern either...
@gracieb.30546 жыл бұрын
My mother, her two sisters and brother were from Morgantown (WVA) and I think my mom and her sister's must be tone deaf b/c they have no accent and my uncle had a thick one. Their parent's both had noticeable southern accent's. Maybe it is less these days. I spent summer's in Grafton and Clarksburg and everyone I met had strong accents. I live in NY metro area now. I am familiar with all of New England as well as mid-Atlantic. West Virginia is not like any of that. It's not just majority rural, but southern.
@brandonashley58724 жыл бұрын
While these are certainly Appalachian accents I feel like Tennessee and northern Alabama (where I'm from) have some of the strongest accents
@Hezigrimm4 жыл бұрын
Depends really. I am from southern Wv and have heard some really thick accents. Went to school with a guy from Alabama and he sounded like some folks I know from Wv. His accent was so thick some folks couldn't understand him but I could.
@guytwombly29552 жыл бұрын
I grew up near the terminus of the chain in northern N.H (Conway) and trust me some of those old Yankees were hard to understand but that was the 50's and 60's, outhouses, coal bins and I remember the really old timers growing native plants for food and medicine like milkweed etc. We had an innate aversion to outsiders and a deep pride in our home and culture
@bobbyleewv9 жыл бұрын
You must not know this, but Don Knotts took elocution lessons to make his accent less Southern because audiences couldn't understand him. So this is sort of pointless.
@MeadeSkeltonMusic8 жыл бұрын
+bobbyleewv It has nothing to do with making it less Southern, as it does clarity. There are many different Southern accents and having a Southern accent doesn't mean you can' t have good diction or "proper" elocution. Lots of Northerners don't speak very clearly. Especially people from NY/NJ area.
@kevincalhoun43267 жыл бұрын
Meade Music southern accent is dead all of us sound the same nowadays
@calebpippenger76896 жыл бұрын
false
@RazzleRainbowz6 жыл бұрын
wrong. i have a strong appalachian accent
@cmoneytheman5 жыл бұрын
thats crap dont gota take classes
@billycampbell8543 жыл бұрын
The show had "mess" of different accents that were not Appalachian, but from different parts of the South or the north.
@grelm13226 жыл бұрын
Mr Goldstein, I love this video. Please let me ask, what do you think of the European people as well as their descendents here in the United States?
@zizoumonk104 ай бұрын
That is quite a general question
@MadameSomnambule4 ай бұрын
I'm from eastern Ohio, my grandparents are from northern West Virginia. Don Knotts' accent always sounded a bit familiar to me and I never even realized I even HAD an accent until my ex pointed it out to me when we were still together hehe.
@dtm88203 жыл бұрын
I love Andy Griffith show and Barney came from west virginia.
@TheRobert22548 жыл бұрын
There some comparisons between Barney Fife and Ralph Furley
@wolfdar20094 жыл бұрын
Ol Abe just laughin.
@non-descriptinfluence31127 жыл бұрын
The abolishment of slavery?
@jauffreseptim53677 жыл бұрын
Sentinel Weapon no not really they still had slaves in the North
@reds7vn3707 жыл бұрын
Was NEVER about slavery but the exploitation and over taxation of the South. History got bent. Much Like when they try to pwn off the fact that Christopher Columbus discovered America when in fact he didn't he didn't even come close nor do we know exactly where he went . The first European to discover America was in fact Leif Ericson in 999. But America taught 1492 Christopher Columbus for decades along with other BS about how we as America did things we didn't really do. Look at what's going on now with all the cities removing Confederate general statues . That's part of history should never be removed but because people have a political agenda they choose to wipe history away and rewrite it way they want it. Californians mother states that her teaching crazy things to elementary school kids such as the Second Amendment which clearly states "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." But not in the new textbooks that are being used instead this is what the new textbooks state the Second Amendment says "The people have the right to keep and bear arms in a state militia". Huge difference! But Americans won't dare challenge that and it will be taken as fact and a whole generation will have been lied to.
@qualqui7 жыл бұрын
Emancipation Proclamation, about the exploitation and over taxation of the South, got it, I'm pretty sure, growin' up in se utah, that my history teacher stressed it was about abolishing slavery, but getting down to the "nitty-gritty", its more logical it would be what you state here its about.
@reds7vn3707 жыл бұрын
Your teacher was wrong. Slavery was never an issue. Only 1.4 percent of the American population at the time of the Civil War actually owned slaves. So a war was waged over 1.4 percent of the population which included Northerners, Southerners, Whites and Blacks who owned slaves. No, no it wasn't. Taxation, well over taxation of the southern cotton and produce were the actual causes of the American Civil War. Anyone who says slavery is a fool. Lincoln said this, "My policy sought only to collect the Revenue (a 40 percent federal sales tax on imports to Southern States under the Morrill Tariff Act of 1861)." reads paragraph 5 of Lincoln's First Message to the U.S. Congress, penned July 4, 1861. "I have no purpose, directly or in-directly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so," Lincoln said it his first inaugural on March 4 of the same year. There is no proof of Lincoln ever declaring the war was fought to abolish slavery, and without such an official statement, the war-over-slavery teaching remains a complete lie and offensive hate speech that divides Americans, as is being done now by the media and politicians. Slavery was NOT abolished; just the name was changed to sharecropper with over 5 million Southern whites and 3 million Southern blacks working on land stolen by Wall Street bankers. White, black, Indian, Hispanic, Protestant, Catholic and Jewish Confederates valiantly stood as one in thousands of battles on land and sea. Afterwards, they attended Confederate Veterans' reunions together and received pensions from Southern States. Lincoln did not claim slavery was a reason even in his Emancipation Proclamations on Sept. 22, 1862, and Jan. 1, 1863. Moreover, Lincoln's proclamations exempted a million slaves under his control from being freed (including General U.S. Grant's four slaves) and offered the South three months to return to the Union (pay 40 percent sales tax) and keep their slaves. None did. Lincoln affirmed his only reason for issuing was: "as a fit and necessary war measure for suppressing said (tax) rebellion."
@Julian-jk1le7 жыл бұрын
RED S7VN thank you for this, I love u.s. history facts like this!
@joeanderson9852 Жыл бұрын
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@Chris_Hetherington4 жыл бұрын
They can vary, my grandmother has an accent identical to Andy Griffith and she is from Giles County, Va.
@Hezigrimm4 жыл бұрын
It really depends on when you grew up. My family is from Summers county and they have similar accents to Barney. However, I have ran into others who have thicker accents. Most of those with thicker accents were older folks or spent their time around folks with thicker accents.
@erickingseppАй бұрын
Ah yes, the "northern accent" of West Virginia. 😀
@BLOOKERIA4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like jim justice haha
@stevewilson91544 жыл бұрын
I am from the ohio valley and lived 30 years in NC. The biggest difference is you plural. North of Charleston WV is you ones south of it is you all. Yunz, yens, you'ens various versions, the northern hillbilly version is the loser since y'all seems to be used by everybody nowadays and my family no longer say yens or even remember ever having said it.
@washingtonotters78162 жыл бұрын
I’m Canadian and I just did a quick Google sure. Ya The Emancipation Proclamation is exactly what I thought. Only because it is exactly what it means. Emancipation means freedom. So just assumed it would be a Abe Lincoln declaration of freedom Of slaves.
@empirion502 Жыл бұрын
You're aware this is a fictional television show, correct?
@washingtonotters7816 Жыл бұрын
@@empirion502 I’m saying I never took American history in school because I’m Canadian but had a rough assumption on what the emancipation proclamation was
@Hezigrimm4 жыл бұрын
In all honesty I don't think there is a clear southern vs northern. I have heard thick accents in southern Wv and northern Wv, and vice versa. I can say in Summers co. I don't hear accents that are really thick. They mostly sound like Don Knotts in this video. However, I have come across folks with thick accents.
@TacoCat88915 жыл бұрын
Too bad Google didn’t exist then!
@AA-pw5ni2 жыл бұрын
I didn't think Don Knotts had an accent...
@alanstrong55 Жыл бұрын
W.V fought for the Union. Good enough. The CSA did not like that one bit.