Jackson Slater ElevatorRailAlarmFan except for a P5

Stafford Northern Railroad i wouldn’t say that

Glad to hear it! Please ask before you use one of my sound clips but as long as it’s not for profit I’m glad to help out.

It’s a great feeling to get your first M5.

+lotusbandicoot Did you give me credit?

Yep!

Never thought I'd see you here Owen. Also, is it the horn used for the Erie Lackawanna train that hits the car?

Dead Frt West Indeed!

The green means it was definitely a passenger unit.

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M-5s were fitted with alterable chambers which determined the notes and would force the railroads to monitor these in order to maintain the correct chord and sound volume. M-5s utilise different sized items across each bell which in turn made them far less economical to use and retain.

SomeKindOfMagic sorry for the late reply, I'm just now seeing your response. Oh I see, that makes a lot of sense. Seems like it would make a nightmare for the maintenance of each horn on each Loco. Thank you.

You can if you want, but its not a good recording for that purpose. Because of how much air M5's use, the sound drops off immediately after I open the valve. Loot at the audio on a analyzer program, because of how it drops off its imposable to loop the sound and get a consistent tone.

If an M5 uses that much air, and sometimes the tone gets inconsistent, that must be the case with Winchester Western 517's M5. (Their 445 apparently also used to have an identical-sounding M5 but was replaced with a not-as-pleasant IMHO P5 years back.) This is the closest sounding M5 to WW's horns that I've found on the internet so far, a nice bright sound I practically grew up with, wish there were more of these around. At least, in spite of their little quirks, they don't foul so easily like the Leslie RS5T.

Good deal! Be warned however, it is an expensive hobby, and if you are going to be picky about what you get, be prepared to wait longer and pay more to get it.

+TommyBNSF I'd like to do that sometime, but I'll need to first find an M horn to take apart. My M3 is still factory seal wired, no way I'm opening that up. The M5 in this video sounds so good I don't want to chance messing up the tuning.

Thank you!

Indeed! As it happens the last order of M5’s built for a railroad was in the early 1980’s for WP.

That is correct.

I've owned this horn since before that theft occurred.

I attempted to word my comment carefully so as not to accuse you of stealing this horn. It is not possible to positively identify the stolen NCTM horn; however, steps have been taken since that time to mark each NCTM horn and to make them much more difficult to steal. I was not aware of the prevalence of horn theft until our's was stolen; and we learned a hard lesson in that replacing the stolen horn was extremely expensive. Most are not aware, nor do they care, that when a horn is stolen from a locomotive, it renders the locomotive inoperable in single-unit service until the horn can be replaced. My comment was merely cautionary that legitimate horn collectors need to be careful of it's provenance when one becomes available.

My apologizes, I got a little too uptight in my original comment. I personally make sure that I get all my horns from reputable sources, and I don't buy anything that I know was stolen. Horn theft is unfortunately a problem, and it makes legitimate horn collectors like myself look bad because people often think the only way to get one is to steal it.

Tommy Aker has them, PM me if you need his contact info. Or, get some gasket material and use the old ones as a pattern to make new ones.

Where do I find the bell gaskets for an m5

The M5 and P5 both play the same chord, A major dominant 7th.

Mostly from other collectors.

The E60’s used a P5 that had a 0 bell in place of the 4 bell, called a P01235. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ideop6qe0rvYdoE.html

***** Where/when did I say that? I said I had been collecting for 5 years, and only now got an M5. I have about 21 or 22 horns at last count.

This M5 was originally built with 3/16 inlets, but the previous owner modified it to a 5/16 inlet. So yes, it does sound like an older model M5, and that's one of the things I like about it.

oh ok thats pretty cool

On a farm road between Moscow Idaho and Pullman Washington.

Thanks, now I can rest easy, lol!

+JakesGP35 The P5 was actually developed several years AFTER the M5, and was originally intended to sound the same notes as the M5. One major difference in the sound besides the timbre is that the P5 is on the diatonic scale, where as the M5 is not.

+mafarnz ah ok thx