Right? How fucking prescient was that?

no, it must be observed and researched in a nice habitat box!

It’s very interesting to think how many people (myself included) assumed aggression or violence, thinking the owl people would bite our head off the first time we get caught. It makes so much more sense that they’re just defensive though.

@@Evanz111 my gut instinct was that they realized they had a mistake and were actually trying to HELP the player character by getting them out of the world. But the "remove a strange creature from your house" thing makes a lot of sense.

@@Evanz111 To be fair, they're a bit rougher with you if they catch you without the lantern. It's still temporary since it's a virtual self, but still.

It's cruel, they won't even let him die in peace.

at least monopoly is a dice based game, you could simulate other players with chance. harder to play a pure strategy game like chess alone

At least they give the Prisoner an instrument, though we don't know if they can play it. I'm not entirely sure it was designed to be wholly inhumane, but it is an interesting theory.

@@ariezon As someone else raised in a reddit thread, presumably the Prisoner can blow their own flame out - unless they somehow rigged their device to prevent that.

The one question that remains is why they bothered with putting code locks on the prison and then writing the codes for those locks down only to then burn the codes. Why make a lock that is never meant to be open?

That is awesome, thank you for sharing it with us as it was shared with you

Well I'll be damned, that is a wild connection. The developers really did make it seem like the dlc was planned from the start.

fucking amazing

And Two were there to see how all went down.

One eye in need, cried out for help. Heard by two eyes, which silenced its yelp. One of the two, freed the cries of the one. Three heard the cries too, one two's work was done. Four followed the footsteps, of one, two, and three. It's mission accomplished, allowed five eyes to see. One from the one, and four from the four. Five working together opened the door. A new two and three, together a five. Joined in with the six, to make a universe thrive. Songs of the seven, created a bang. The eighth jumped inside it, a new universe sang.

Seriously

He cherished them - and decided to let them go. It was the one thing his people struggled most with.

"Two eyes, how novel" Soviet, on noticing the number of eyes the giants have.

He has accepted the Hearthean way... He has immersed himself...

I think he was assuming the owlks were nocturnal since they resembled owls and much of the dlc takes place in the dark, as he said the lanturns and candles would be more than adequite light for them to see in the simulation

​@@boingboingresearcherph.d.2871 Soviet's immersion in the games he plays, one of my favorite things about his stuff

@@davidstrife165 That was so funny like imagine hearing that out of context

“u fukin wot m8?”

“Did someone order pizza?…. No?…. Who the hell is this then?”

Hearthian: _Surprised Amphibian noises_ Strangers: _Surprised Owl noises_ Hearthian: _Scared Amphibian noises_ Strangers: _Murderous Owl noises_

Wait, who else has done it?

I love how immersed he was in the world, and then just started cracking jokes about how being eternally old would suck

Knowledge-based progression games can be some of the most amazing examples of elegant game design. The fact they're so rare and hard to create, makes it a treat when a really good one is released.

It's funny how he says this quote right after realizing how important "not holding a candle" is within the context of the game.

You may try playing Tunic (blind !) if you want to be blown away by good game design again.

​​​@@MelgoriasI second this. Tunic is one of the greatest games I've played.

I have a hard time with FIFTEEN DOLLARS now. Knowing that once upon a time I spent that amount on this absolute masterpiece I will never look at the value of that amount of currency again

Yeah the owlks serve as a wonderful, yet natural contrast to the very scientific and curious nomai, mobius somehow pulled off a dlc that delivered in spades both thematically and with the gameplay

That's why the horror aspect serves the dlc so well

​@@twixchexmixindeed It is PERFECT to add to the main game It gives Info of why

​@@twixchexmix they also constrast well on the hearthians who had virtually no fear of the unknown and blasted into it almost prematurely, their ships jerry-rigged with wood and rockets.

Way to put it

I did the exact same thing lol. I wasted so much time

Jeez, when I was in the tower counting number of celestial bodies on each photo Gabbro genuinely scared me cause I was so close.

a picture paints a 1000 words, and I guess those 1000 words were the whole plot lol

He is on the same wavelength with them and so the analogy he brings up soon after is on point. "If you found a random alien lizard in your home, wouldn't you just throw it out"?

it almost seems like he knew everything beforehand

@@NewsofPE sure, and he is putting up an act the entire time just for the lulz. No, he is actually figuring out this stuff out because the environmental story telling is incredible and he is quite observant

@@sbef never said he did, idk why you're jumping the trigger here and assuming shit

Talking through everything out loud helps a lot. He's always laying his thoughts out for his viewers but it helps him collect those thoughts too. Same idea as the rubber ducky thing in coding.

I genuinely had to ask myself if he preplayed it and was faking naivety to seem smart. He doesn’t seem like that kind of person though. As another commenter said: thinking aloud definitely helps connect dots instead of internalising all your thoughts!

chiropractor mode *engage*

Awww! At the end the prisoner is smiling :')

They had a similar thing with the nomai writings as well

all the mechanics are like "bugs", i love the bug music, it also plays in the port breach slide i think

The way he has such respect for the story and the tragedy it portrays, really makes me enjoy watching him.

Yeah, it's incredible. About Oliver's playthrough was scientifically fascinating, but he was way off about a lot of thr story (as most of us are haha). Oliver posited a lot of theories that, while wrong, were super interesting Soviet however just seems to get it all right almost first try every time. Really fun to watch

@@charby5875 Exactly, I love watching him play single player story games. Same idea with his FFX playthrough, for example/

@@Alwayz114 But he had to plug the hole bro

​@@asinineintentions7773 always give top priority to every cave

when the music shifts to the main theme as it transitions to the hearthians time in the vision gets me emotional every time

The base game ending made me cry, but THAT moment had me absolutely bawling

The eye of the universe ending with the prisoner gets me everything That music makes me nostalgic for playing the dlc for the first time

Everytime**

Man

wait you played outerwilds?

YOU OKAYED OUTER WILDS :DDDD!! you have no idea how incredibly happy that fact makes me

​@@eggsforbacon internet stranger also likes The Thing, hooray

::)

I'm pretty sure they just guessed. Why would they leave it off if they discovered them turning it on?

282,000 years in solitary confinement :/

He has been punished to eternal inprisonnement for freeing the signal, surely they would not let it free after that

@@SolDizZo way more, actually. dark bramble hadnt been destroyed yet. something interesting is that the bramble vines were still there when the strangers arrived so the seed appeared there a very long time ago

​@@supercharged5-39 I agree but not necessarily on the timeline. We know the seeds can travel for very long periods of time in dark space. Of course there's a lot we don't know. I'm going to throw a few questions at you so buckle up. I theorize that all the aquatic life in the solar system originated from said Ice planet, including the now-Hearthians. Seeing as it's incredibly unlikely for multiple planets in the same solar system to similarly have aquatic species. It's pretty confounding for an Anglerfish to make it to Ember Twin though. Maybe its hunger caused it to explore the solar system long ago, but how did it keep it's intradimensional size? Anyway, let me straighten canonical questions here: 1: The Eye releases a death cry to all of the universe indiscriminately. How long does it take for this signal to travel? 2: The Stranger arrives and in short order seals the signal in horror, despair and disgust, immediately resuming the Eye's quantum flux. Does this have a quantum effect on time or concentrate the intensity of the signal? 3: The Owlkkin have limited resources and use their last years--at most decades--to invent virtual immortality. All the while the ice planet is growing vines. Before their bodies are completely abandoned, the now-Prisoner releases the signal which eventually reaches a passing Nomai Ship. What's the timespan here? 4: Nomai warp "there" to the relative coordinates, I'm assuming coalesced into the epicenter of the quantum orbit of the Eye. They land INSIDE Dark Bramble. It's clear from the slides that now-Dark-Bramble remained planetary during the events of the Stranger, but was it completely frozen? And there's probably a 1-10,000 year gap allowed by the time it takes for the Eye's signal to travel to the Nomai, however far away they are. Some people think the Nomai ship and escape pods caused the explosion, but they didn't exactly bring an atmosphere with them. Did the Bramble react so explosively to contain or restrain its intruder? Knowing the Nomai's time in their new home spanned at least to ancestral lengths, the lowest estimate is a 282,000 year imprisonment for our immortal friend. I wonder how high we can really estimate. 300,000? The wood of the dam in the Stranger was very rotten by Hearthians' time, but maybe it calcified and had no reason to break for all those millennia.

I see it as this. To a civilization living at the start or even middle of the universe's life, the Eye would seem evil and monstrous. Why would one want to restart a thriving cosmos? Only in the context of the heat death does the Eye provide comfort, "sure everything is ending, but a new universe can begin"

One of my favourite moments of the dlc is not even truly a part of the dlc, its the first time you open up the game and the main menu warns you that the DLC is a horror game, that simple message sets the tone of the entire thing so fast. I remember reading someone who made the connection that the message on the main menu is much like the message the Owlks receieved from the eye, only when actually exploring you find out the truth behind the message.

Despite not knowing it and doing it for much more selfish reasons, what they did ended up being the right choice as it ensured the Eye was only activated at the end of the universe, sparing thousands of civilizations from being erased before they had a chance to bloom. The world of Outer Wilds does not operate on some kind of fate or prophecy, so the Hearthians being set up for success by the Owlks and Nomai is pure cosmic chance. Perhaps EVERYTHING is quantum in service to the Eye? We exist in the one possibility where the Eye can be found at the very end of the universe. I love this game.

I think they misinterpreted the vision (I don't believe the Eye ends the universe, just "fastforwards" to when it ends and then restarts it, but I don't think the Owlks saw it that way), and their reaction was kind of rash, but ultimately understandable. Their treatment of the prisoner I find inexcusable, though.

horrifying realization: this universe where one race managed to delay the cycle is probably an outlier. an average cycle of the universe DOES get cut short in the middle/end, when life is still thriving

The universe ended before he could break the space time continuem. Obviously, when he came back fabric of spacetime had something to say about it.

I dont understand (I've not played the game, unfortunately) how that "broke the space fabric" works. What triggers it and why?

@@lambda3952dude I came to the comment section for the exact same reason!! I think I’ve figured it out tho. So Self is made when you travel through a black hole that opens in the ash twin towards the end of the loops. I think he travelled through this, and the loop resets but you can go visit the old you that got stuck in the blackhole, named Self. Anyways, I think Soviet did this, but finished the game before he could go talk to self (which you have to do to fix the paradox) so when he reloaded the game he had Self still on Ash Twin

@@carysdeklerk2009 I see, thanks

We could make a religion out of this!

​@sidewinder6862 owlks: "wait, actually don't"

its the accent. he simulates 90s adventure movies.

Totally unnecessary? I would say it's one of a few key reasons why the base game happens

@@noelthemighty By “unnecessary” I mean coming to that conclusion isn’t necessary for you, the player, to understand the story. You could just conclude that the Nomai got their warp coordinates wrong, and that would be a perfectly sufficient explanation. But the spatial properties of dark bramble *causing* that error is an interesting idea that fits even better with the rules the game sets up for its universe!

​@@DavidCornell1 I always thought that they warped inside it because the amount of sheer space inside of dark bramble is so large. Like the coordinates were just somewhere in the system, but it just so happened that dark bramble takes up like half of the space in the system technically speaking

Never realized that So the eye could've already been blocked again, but the signal was still passing thru the hypothetically infinite dark bramble?

⁠@@constantlyphilI don’t think the signal was “already blocked” - in the DLC ending movie you see pretty clearly that the Nomai received the signal and immediately warped during the short (probably few-second or few-minute) window when the signal was released. Not accounting for the time it takes the signal to travel across space at, that is (i.e. presumably the speed of light).

Man knows how to stream

So this is a copy of what I posted to someone else so it may seem a little like it ignores some things you comment, but I just want to add on to your comment and gush more about the game: ​The whole fear theme has a lot more layers in the game. The entire game is set up so that you can explore most of it peacefully, but if you want to get to vault you will need to do what the owls can not and face your fear. Just the act of getting to the slides that show you the glitches you will need involves turning off the lights and braving the owl people to get to the archive rooms, but even the glitches themselves involve facing your fear. Each of the three glitches is something that the player could stumble into on their own, however it is fear that keeps the player from discovering them. The lamp is a source of light and comfort for the player in this dark area, even if they realize they can set it down, it is fear of losing or going away from your light source that keeps them near it. On the raft you learn to fear the water as it knocks you out of the dream, so you stay on your raft even when you can no longer see the water when loading between levels. Finally it is the fear of death and reseting the cycle which keeps the player from learning that even in death they can enter the simulation. And the game rewards those who face their fear and experiment. If you learn the lantern trick or the death trick, you can use that to skip having to wake up the owls and be able to easily enter their respective archive rooms.

When I first played the DLC, I saw all the owlks dead around the fire so I thought you had to die to get in and did that first. It took me forever to realize what the statues were even supposed to be doing because I went in dead every time. Caused me to cheese the whole descent into the tower archives sadly.

it's so fun to watch him question things that would make canonical sense for the mc to think

Probably depends on what you're the most familiar with. Personally, although I first saw something like this in the Gundam series, the first thing that popped into my mind was Elite Dangerous.

@@sanga000 the 10 people who thought of elysium

havent seen anyone calling it an O'Neill cylinder yet tho. that's O'Neill with 2 L

Yeah that was really funny. At first I thought it was because he hadn't activated the statue yet (even though he already had launch codes), and then I realized it. It's funny to think how close he was to destroying the fabric of spacetime on his last cycle.

Yes please, I would love to see his streams in this Supercuts format

Also, his run through the dlc was super interesting

A series of edirs of Joseph Anderson's Outer Wilds streams would be redundant because they already exist.

Same!

Go do the base game tbh, possible you could still have some puzzles unspoiled

That guy in Bloodborne who said we need more eyes really was onto something wasn't he

huh ?