I like how the Federation makes one tiny dedicated warship and it can go toe-to-toe with even the more hulking of capital ships in the quadrant. This is what min-maxing is all about, people.
@Quadrolithium2 жыл бұрын
This is what you get for bullying a nerd long enough, he doesn't just learn Karate, he's now making Mustard Gas to ensure you're double dead by the end.
@Kain-wk6xk Жыл бұрын
I agree. It's the equivalent of speaking softly but carrying a huge stick.
@dianapennepacker6854 Жыл бұрын
My favorite Trek ship, and the best looking one too. I have never been a fan of federation ship design, and the Defiant looks sturdy and deadly. Small, fast, and can hit far beyond its weight. Exactly my type of ship! Always loved a good corvette. It is like a wolf and does well with others. Oh did I mention it has a cloak?! Wonder if there is a newer ship with more firepower that is similar in shape. Maybe some harder angles. Defiant 2.0. Okay ranting done and wish you all the best.
@rakshithanand8262 Жыл бұрын
@@dianapennepacker6854 in expanded universe lore, I believe that the Callisto-class is the defines successor. Still tiny, but 50% more guns and extra armour. Heck, Star Trek online has a fleet carrier that can deploy 4 of these things as its standard air wing. No wonder everyone is so scared of the Federation at war.
@dianapennepacker6854 Жыл бұрын
@@rakshithanand8262 That sounds pretty awesome. I love the idea of fast moving things that can strike way above their weight. In real life it would be a torpedo boat. Seen a concept of a submersible torpedo boat that was super quick and small. Could quickly unload four torpedo and GTFO before doing some quick dive to avoid fire. They were also planning on one with a massive anti ship missile. Get in close about a mile out and fire before speeding off and submerging.
@midnightrun56224 жыл бұрын
"These are the voyages of the Starship Defiant. Her ongoing mission: To intimidate strange new worlds; to beat down new life and new civilizations. To Boldly Kick Ass Where No Man Has Kicked Ass Before!"
@sheilaolfieway18853 жыл бұрын
sounds like the alternate universe version.
@blairbrown48123 жыл бұрын
@@sheilaolfieway1885 Both of them. Constitution- and Defiant-classes.
@maestrolodahl86813 жыл бұрын
FRAK YEA!!! :D
@redwastaken33632 жыл бұрын
Sgt Johnson, but in Star Trek
@engineer84-w8x2 жыл бұрын
@@redwastaken3363 sounds like something that Duke Nukem would say if he got his hands on a Defiant, but without the bubblegum. (shame)
@randomcoyote88074 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the dismay of Starfleet personnel finding out that they didn't just have to share rooms, but rooms packed full of bunk beds.
@DavidLemmo4 жыл бұрын
Defiant was never meant to be a long range vessel, creature comfort was not part of the design requirements. However, when compared to a comparable Klingon ship (B'Rel Class) it was comfortable for most humanoids.
@apolloxiii55744 жыл бұрын
It was build like a submarine, with efficiency in mind, not comfort.
@blairbrown48123 жыл бұрын
I'm certain that some members of the crew got over the bitter disappointment fairly quickly 😏and adapted,sometimes when facing Certain Death but mostly because of boredom 🙃
@tbeller802 жыл бұрын
@@blairbrown4812 especially after a year into the Dominion war when you saw the casualty rates of other ship classes and the massive plot armor the Defiant seemed to have.
@DarkNova504 жыл бұрын
"Strap some engines to those weapons and let's call it a day." "Sir, maybe we should consider some life support systems for the, ah, crew?" *sighing* "FINE."
@blueberry1vom1t2 жыл бұрын
An exchange between Benjamin Sisko and a member of the engineering team.
@APersonOnYouTubeX Жыл бұрын
Defiant class sounds like the A10 of Starfleet
@johnconnor78546 жыл бұрын
I always called this ship the Fist of The Emissary.
@tachyontee38776 жыл бұрын
That is an awesome name.
@craig53224 жыл бұрын
Damn, that's pretty good
@AllknowingUnknown4 жыл бұрын
" I'm about to put my FIST in your opinion" - Cmdr Sisko
@duanscott24904 жыл бұрын
Most people call her Cisco's Pimp Hand. Fist of the Emissary is... alright...I guess. Seriously though. That's cool. If Bajor ever built their own warships, I could see them naming one Fist of the Emissary in honor of Cisco and his beloved Defiant.
@AllknowingUnknown4 жыл бұрын
@@duanscott2490 Or "The Sword of the Stars".
@allnamesaretakenful3 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine 3 or 4 Defiants decloaking to attack, and then cloaking after they quickly destroy a ship. They would be the terror of the Alpha Quadrant.
@jamesdavis12012 жыл бұрын
I always wanted to see that!!! Maybe one day...
@blueberry1vom1t Жыл бұрын
to hell with cloaking. 4 Defiants are deadly on their own. And hell, seeing a squadron of them exit warp might be enough to make an enemy commander surrender or flee
@Ruitraceur Жыл бұрын
This is why one main reason why the Romulan's only allowed the Federation to have one cloaked Defiant!
@spiritofthewolf15x Жыл бұрын
Canonically, they were intended to be used in in ground of two to three Defiant classes paired with a light cruiser, like a Nebula or later an Akira or in "wolf packs" of five Defiant classes alone.
@177SCmaro6 жыл бұрын
The Defiant "totally not a warship" "escort" class
@yimingwang80373 жыл бұрын
that just a nice way to say a war ship XD
@machinshin22533 жыл бұрын
it is an escort.. it's escorting the weapons to their targets on enemy ships.
@yimingwang80373 жыл бұрын
@@machinshin2253 oh my
@JayJayM572 жыл бұрын
@@machinshin2253 perfect
@Mobius_1182 жыл бұрын
Escorting its enemies straight to hell.
@entylsa6 жыл бұрын
I guess aiming is not your biggest problem when you are up versus a borg cube.
@ZzCanonBull6 жыл бұрын
This is true... specially when a Borg ship is 3 cubic kilometers in size....it's wasn't designed for long range combat anyway....it was designed to get up close and personal while the Akira class and Galaxy class and the like hit you from afar
@djprojectus5 жыл бұрын
@@ZzCanonBull 3 cubic kilometers? More like 27 cubic kilometers!
@JabezFuutonSpecialis2 жыл бұрын
@@djprojectus it's 3 kilometers along an edge, with internal volume of 28 cubic kilometers
@djprojectus2 жыл бұрын
@@JabezFuutonSpecialis Why 28 cubic km? Why not 27? The edges are not equal?
@JabezFuutonSpecialis2 жыл бұрын
@@djprojectus that's what is said on the wiki
@hmrhuang3 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention how Defiant-class ships generated so much firepower. Recall that the ship design had the plasma conduits running through the primary phase couplings to double their phaser power! It even made their warp drive more efficient! (Ref: STDS9, S3 E09 "Defiant")
@jamesdavis12012 жыл бұрын
Well Said!
@DrewLSsix6 жыл бұрын
"A terrifying foe that could never be bargained or negotiated with" Janeway: Hold my coffee....
@yukin19906 жыл бұрын
Janeway: let's go rob them!!!!XD XD
@randallb845 жыл бұрын
To be fair, would YOU say no to Janeway?
@cjwrench075 жыл бұрын
DrewLSsix Really? Come on, Really??? She’s the one who negotiated the death of *Trillions* of sentient life forms, all so her crew of 200-300people “could get home”. She destroyed all those homes and worlds, because she wanted to get back to her “side piece” Mark(starfleet was her first love), and it didn’t matter if she had to make a deal with the Devil(The Borg) to achieve it. Nothing she does in the finale changes that, since the temporal police will change it back to how it’s supposed to end, and take away their cheap “win” over the Borg Queen.
5 жыл бұрын
@@randallb84 yes I would. Janeway sucks and is a horrible Captain.
@maxacorn5 жыл бұрын
@@cjwrench07 and let's not forget the equinox. she read ransom the riot act for what he did. true, what he did was terrible but he never tried to justify it as something great or noble. he knew what he was doing was terrible and was ready to face the consequences of his actions. he even quoted starfleet regs, saying he had to do what he had to do to ensure his crew and ship's survival. and janeway didn't even listen. this is the same ep where she used starfleet regs to pull rank on another captain. so the regs only apply when it benefits janeway. making janeway a admiral was a stupid stupid decision.
@MandalorV76 жыл бұрын
The Defiant is like the A-10 Warthog. She may not be the prettiest, but packs massive firepower. Personally like the Defieant's gunship like roll in Star Fleet.
@Gamerf0rlife6 жыл бұрын
That is how I always viewed the Defiant class. Let's put two massive engines and 4 massive phaser cannons together and build the ship around that. The result is the Defiant class.
@knotsnights69406 жыл бұрын
right up until Chintaka, at least.
@saxomike5 жыл бұрын
@@knotsnights6940 damn breen advanced weapon
@JimPekarek5 жыл бұрын
I always found the Defiant to be the prettiest Starfleet vessel. I hate the nacelles dangling out there as easy to blow up targets in most ships.
@johnilarde84404 жыл бұрын
Space Brrrrt
@nicholasmorsovillo27522 жыл бұрын
I heard it was said the Defiant's warp core was equal in power to the warp core of the Galaxy Class as was mentioned by Miles O'Brien.
@blueberry1vom1t Жыл бұрын
Benjamin Sisko really said "Let's take all that power and direct them into my big gun." imagine how the second battle with the borg would've gone if starfleet made like 5 of those and sent them all to fight that borg cube.
@ghostfear20116 жыл бұрын
AKA “Ben Sisko’s Pimp Hand”.
@phantom117b46 жыл бұрын
you forgot to to add Motherf*@#ing
@akulatraxus91536 жыл бұрын
Came down here to see if someone had contributed this quote. Was not disappointed.
@AnthonyJ5046 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@aethertech6 жыл бұрын
That's Benjamin, to you.
@PaladinGuy6 жыл бұрын
Sfdebris fan, too?
@Max_Flashheart6 жыл бұрын
That is a Badass Class DS9 Ship with major character plot armour
@Transgender-ProphetMohammed6 жыл бұрын
+19 saving throws
@johnlavery34336 жыл бұрын
It would have emerged in pristine condition, because sisko would will it to.
@conroypawgmail3 жыл бұрын
That's ABLATIVE plot armor.
@winstonsyme76723 жыл бұрын
This ship has the least plot armor. Didn't even make it to the end of the series. They had to replace it with the USS Sao Paulo.
@matthewknobel69542 жыл бұрын
Until it got blown up
@biscuitninja5 жыл бұрын
Did not mention Ablative Armor... Always liked that idea. Shields Smealds!
@benlaskowski3573 жыл бұрын
Wolf 359 taught Starfleet a lesson it should have learned from human history: some enemies cannot be negotiated with.
@sheilaolfieway18853 жыл бұрын
Vulcan's held the federation back just like they held humanity back during the NX-01 enterprises career. Wolf 358 taught the federation that yes, sometimes your enemy only speaks violence.... but they should have known.
@templarw203 жыл бұрын
“Do no push the pink ones onto the thin ice.” The vulcans had held humanity and the Andorians in check. But Wolf 359 showed that such restraint was not always logical.
@347Jimmy2 жыл бұрын
Janeway managed to negotiate with the Collective
@benlaskowski3572 жыл бұрын
@@347Jimmy The Borg were getting their asses chewed by Species 8472. Special circumstances.
@347Jimmy2 жыл бұрын
@@benlaskowski357 that's true, but they still came to the table (agreed, only because of said special circumstances) There's been times in human history where one side has refused to negotiate at all, even in the face of total annihilation I guess humans being more stubborn than the Borg is one of our advantages over them (alongside creativity, pluckiness and others) Side note: I think Picard probably wouldn't have thought that the Borg would be open to negotiation if he'd been in Janeway's place But that's just my take
@Snapper3146 жыл бұрын
That is one tough little ship.
@rodneypayne48276 жыл бұрын
Snapper314 "little? ".You bet me to it.😁
@kaisoonjoe55146 жыл бұрын
"Little"? You beat me to it!
@sheilaolfieway18853 жыл бұрын
LITTLE!?
@BlitzedNostradamus5 жыл бұрын
"It's a set of guns strapped to an engine."
@roundbrick48903 жыл бұрын
where did i hear this before.. oh yeah, the BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT itself, the a10 warthog
@Elthenar3 жыл бұрын
@@roundbrick4890 I was going to say that. Except the A-10 was slow. It would be an A-10 with the engines of an F-22 glued to it.
@sheilaolfieway18853 жыл бұрын
@@Elthenar Well the A-10 was built to cover ground troops the defiant isn't designed to support ground combat so yeah.
@idriscorvus22372 жыл бұрын
Then he called it the Defiant, second name actually as the Starfleet thought the USS Ben Sisko Mutha*****ing Pimp Hand is too long
@Vejitatheouji6 жыл бұрын
Gotta love that flying pancake!
@MotoroidARFC6 жыл бұрын
Super Saiya-jin Vegeta I've always thought of it as a horseshoe when seen from below and a sea turtle from above.
@sheilaolfieway18853 жыл бұрын
harder to hit a pancake head on...
@marckrieger32776 жыл бұрын
I loved that ship best design along with the sovereign class in Star Trek.
@coldvaper2 жыл бұрын
Yes I love the design the best out of all Star Trek ships
@fightingfalcon7776 жыл бұрын
The Defiant class is one of my favorite ships in Star Trek. So happy you did this one, Daniel
@Ser_Arthur_Dayne3 жыл бұрын
I honestly was really hoping the US Navy would name their new FFG(X) class of Guided Missile Frigates (which have now become the Constellation-class Frigates) would be named the Defiant-class Frigates and the first ship the USS Defiant. Best ship and ship name ever in Star Trek.
@NivekH4206 жыл бұрын
By far my favourite ship of all time. Thank you
@mk84boom4 жыл бұрын
Sisko's Pimp Hand!!!
@cloudcleaver236 жыл бұрын
One of the best ships in Star Trek.
@brokeneyes66156 жыл бұрын
And you could build em like hot cakes in ST: Armada.
@pittland446 жыл бұрын
Broken Eyes I loved that game.
@MWBalls6 жыл бұрын
Been a while since i played but wasn't the defiant class like the second weakest ship in the federation fleet, in both armada games?
@brokeneyes66156 жыл бұрын
MWBalls it was the destroyer class in an RTS style, so technically yes, but you could build a bunch of them within a few minutes and if you use them in swarm tactics they can take down things a lot bigger than they. The best IMO was the Borg interceptor with its transearo jump. Combine it with a swarm tactic and a prescanned location you could launch is surprise or counterattack immediately against your opponent, particularly useful if they were using special weapons and you knew where the station was. Jump, swarm, destroy the special weapon module or station and the enemy ships only became a whole lot less of a problem.
@danielrobinson28616 жыл бұрын
Was a brilliant game
@Euripides_Panz6 жыл бұрын
@@brokeneyes6615 The Borg Probe was the most useful of the early ships. Once you charted the opposition, you could jump into their weak zones, take out a freighter or two, maybe a refinery. When they respond with defenders, you lure them away, and send in a heavier force that was building the meantime. Taking out the research station would set them so far back, if they recovered, you would have even more ships of heavier class and artillery to destroy turrets at will, and reserves to defend with.
@CharlesUrban5 жыл бұрын
When humans say they want to put their dark, warlike past behind them, don't force them to show you why.
@andrewarias16733 жыл бұрын
I love the Defiant-class. I'd love to see it in updated CGI on PIC season 2.
@ammosophobia6 жыл бұрын
1:44 FLY HER APART, THEN!
@tachyontee38776 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised no one has said this yet and why have you not received any thumbs up yet? Trek fans are slipping.
@Thexaios6 жыл бұрын
THE USS BEN SISKO'S MOTHA****IN PIMP HAND, AT LAST!
@martinjrgensen82346 жыл бұрын
I love this ship design. Small, but packs a serious punch.
@darwinxavier35166 жыл бұрын
When you back peace loving nerds into a corner. They'll build something utterly ridiculous that can spank you, your friends, and everything else that gets in the way. Don't piss off the Federation.
@tachyontee38776 жыл бұрын
The Federation would rather chill but the Borg and Dominion are buzzkills.
@streakermaximus4 жыл бұрын
For centuries the Federation has held it's own in multiple wars with no warships. Weapons are an afterthought. What happens if they put some effort into it?
@voodoominerman2 жыл бұрын
There's another part of the defiant you didn't mention. In it's original role as an anti-borg swarm ship, that goofy nose section contained a gigantic antimatter warhead so that, in the event of catastrophic damage that prevented retreat, the ship could be rammed into a borg cube and cause far more damage than its relatively small size would normally allow.
@tonybeattie43966 жыл бұрын
My fav ship of starfleet just would have put phaser strip down the cowling of the warp engine and strip on rear to make it a more rounded ship
@craftchest5 ай бұрын
Five years later, still an awesome description of the toughest ship in the fleet. Q'Plah!
@flynnstone31336 жыл бұрын
DS9 is still my favorite Star Trek Series. TNG be damned.
@maxpalombella116 жыл бұрын
TNG was great, but DS9 was on a different level.
@DarkKnight523656 жыл бұрын
i liked voyager better but my all time favorite will be Stargate SG1
@efraim33646 жыл бұрын
Babylon 5 > all
@eointolster6 жыл бұрын
Ds9 was based on Babylon 5. Both awesome
@MWBalls6 жыл бұрын
DS9 was better then any other star trek because it actually had plot that developed over the course of the seasons achieving a happy middle ground between the very boring monster/crisis of the week with no lasting consequences whatsoever of the earlier shows, and the overly dramatic 10-20 hour movies that many of today's TV shows are.
@nicholasmorsovillo27522 жыл бұрын
Pulsed Phaser Cannons haven't been seen the days of Captain Johnathan Archer and the NX-01 Enterprise and her sister ships.
@Manoichan6 жыл бұрын
Man oh man, I love your break downs and to hear my favorite ship get one really amped up my week. Thank you!
@CaptainM7926 жыл бұрын
Do the Intrepid class or the Sovereign class next please. Then you could do a video on Earth Spacedock .
@Colin_Ай бұрын
I like to think that Geordie LaForge helped in the design process of the Pulse Phaser Cannon due in part to his Visor tech which they used in an episode of TNG to modify the Enterprises Tractor Beams into a pulse to greatly improve the power they could channel without overheating when they had to divert the course of some stellar debris from hitting a planet.
@crazedvole6 жыл бұрын
On a completely different subject, have you ever done a clip on "Space battleship Yamato?"
@Geeko1706 жыл бұрын
My biggest complaint with Star Trek are the ship designs. The Defiance is the one ship I very much love the design of. Best Star Trek ship.
@Transgender-ProphetMohammed6 жыл бұрын
The reliant wasnt bad too.
@failedexperiment90736 жыл бұрын
Geeko170 Agreed this is the closest thing to decent ship design in all of ST, followed by Intrepid class and Cerberus variant of Prometheus class (STO). Most remaining designs don't look like ships, most times not at all.
@MWBalls6 жыл бұрын
While i do on occasion think that some other federation ships look ok, the absurd structural weakness in their designs can not be ignored. The Defiant does not have this problem.
@failedexperiment90736 жыл бұрын
@ MWBalls Defiant also has propulsion that looks far more as spaceship engines, than those on any other ST ship and the engines are also big enough to give the ship aceleration usable for space flight. Propulsion look are another point, where other ST ships don't shine, this one does.
@HitodamaKyrie6 жыл бұрын
Personally I really like the ST ship designs.
@tonboyy6 жыл бұрын
I love this "little" ship
@Spaceman07202 жыл бұрын
For some reason this ship always reminds me of the HMP droid gunship from starwars but bigger, and is manned by a crew.
@cookeatliverepeat88153 жыл бұрын
My all time favorite star trek vessel. this little beast has it all.
@nicklima6 жыл бұрын
As of this writing, 1.4K likes vs. 3 dislikes. Speaks volumes about the amazing content quality you put together - keep up the great work!
@SheldonAdama174 жыл бұрын
“Escort” vessel
@cornerofthemoon9 ай бұрын
DS9 needs a revival. Most of the surviving cast would definitely jump on it and I'm sure they could even figure out a way to get Jadzia back. I'm surprised we haven't seen more Defiant-like ships as it's pretty much Star Fleet's Bird of Prey.
@wintermagick20 Жыл бұрын
The defiant class is definitely my favorite starship!
@blackasp0016 жыл бұрын
Or as I call her, Starfleet's Pitbull
@t4rv0r606 жыл бұрын
it clearly is a dog of war
@weldonwin6 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, the Defiant was the second choice of name for this vessel, but the Admiralty felt that "USS Ben Sisko's Mother F**king Pimphand" was too long to paint on the bow.
@PathsUnwritten6 жыл бұрын
Mr 305?
@abledog0066 жыл бұрын
I like that name for it! I wasn't a fan of her when she debuted, too different from the standard Federation design motif.... but boy did she grow on me big time to become one of my favorite Starfleet vessels.
@Taijan19 ай бұрын
I love the idea of the Defiant, its like the Feds had to rediscover the "Destoryer" class of ship.
@hawkeye59556 жыл бұрын
Star Trek Online just released the Victory is Life expansion so the posting of this video is quite appropriate. I played all of new missions in my T6 Fleet Defiant.
@blairbrown48123 жыл бұрын
The Delta Flyer suffering from 'roid rage,and with the right amount of Klingon Bird-of-Prey, for good measure.
@Rebelninja-hl2ek2 жыл бұрын
It's a shame that Michael Eddington didn't try to build some of these when he defected to the Maquis. With his access to the schematics and the industrial replicators he stole he could have at least built one to use for the Maquis. Small, powerful and requiring a small crew complement, this ship would be a huge boost for the Maquis cause. Throw in a Klingon cloaking device for good measure.
@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723 Жыл бұрын
Its more of a hybrid between a WW II era destroyer, the speed & AA powers of the American Fletchers, Somers & Summer class, with the bigger guns like the Zerstörer 1936A (Mob) or could it could be seen as a light cruiser such as the Cleveland, Brooklyn & Atlanta classes, That being said it's nice that the Federation finally decides to understand that certain species are not here to make friends, they are here to either assimilate you, Borg & Vong, eat you like the Tyranids, or a combination of those 2 and enslave you in the case of the Dark Eldar & Rakkata,
@t4rv0r606 жыл бұрын
back in the day as the defiant first appeared in trek, i hated it, it was ugly, wacky weapons (where are the standard phasers!? were my thoughts then) had a a cloak device (for the USS Defiant) and it was kinda small, it had everything what i didnt liked. but i was a young teenager and had no idea of specifications and lorewise reasons for this ship. now skip several years, me playing the crap out of star trek online...then i first read everything about the defiant escort and designreasons. since then i love this ugly af ship. (my ship (USS Bellona) looks like a defiant / akira mashup and is a heavy escort, my favorite roll in a fleet)
@isadorakios87523 жыл бұрын
Weapons officer.. .do you see that dominion ship? Yes Sir. Well, I don't want to. Understood Sir.
@davethe1356 жыл бұрын
I love this Star trek ship. It is small but has excellent combat armor and weapons
@Kalebfenoir6 жыл бұрын
I might not be fond of Trek, but damn if the Defiant had a lot of what I'd ask for in a high-maneuverability warship. A lot of the 'weak point' designs are entirely removed, everything is compact and rugged. I love that one note about 'a power plant built for a ship 4 times its size'. To me that says 'there is power to spare for EVERY system'. (something I've teased my ST fan friend about for a full year now). Defiant class ships are perfect even when they're imperfect.
@TheDjbz6 жыл бұрын
I noticed your stats say 5 decks. Which makes you more accurate than every other written stats for the ship I’ve seen (even with officially licensed stuff) states it has 4. Even though Sisko steps into the Turbo-lift one episode and says “Deck 5” So well done on that.
@terryforsdyke3066 жыл бұрын
The main problem with the Defiant is there were no official figures released until they had been using it for years, for example in First Contact there was a shot where Enterprise flew past Defiant, and based on the known size of a Soverign class that made Defiant not more than 55m long, most of the earlier shots sugested a length of about 120m, later they seemed to decide it is instead 170m, and there are some shots which require it to be 220m+. the master systems display shows it to have 4 full sized decks and a small area below deck 4 which could qualify as deck 5. the MSD also shows landing legs, after DS9 had finished some of the writers were asked why Defiant never used the legs to land, there response was they did not know it had legs. I realy love the Defiant, I just wish there was more solid information on it.
@TheDjbz6 жыл бұрын
I did see something where the special effects guys mentioned it was usually scaled in such a way as to make it look cool regardless of the official sizes because it'd be a dot on the screen when next to the likes of a Galaxy class or such. So.... yeah... inconsistent at best (which describes Star trek as a whole really)
@chrissonofpear36576 жыл бұрын
A size of 110 to 120 metres fits the cross-section/MSD pretty well, I guess. Problem is there's enough room for four decks, and perhaps BARELY for five, if you include lower nacelle space.
@TheWarmaker012 жыл бұрын
Borg: Negotiation is irrelevant Feds: 'turns neck with cracking sound' YOU WILL LEARN OF OUR PEACFUL WAYS BY FORCE!!!
@MrFreesearcher6 жыл бұрын
According to the ship design, the impulse engines are built more centrally, with a large muffler to minimise ion wake displacement, making the Defiant harder to track. The hatches on the port and starboard sides of this were ment to be for deploying probes, mines and countermeasures, but in Star Trek online, these hatches are mistakenly lit as impulse engines.
@tuvok55643 жыл бұрын
The Defiant is definitely my favorite starship in all of science fiction
@tonyjackson40782 жыл бұрын
Before there were established nomenclature for the weaponry on the Defiant, a friend called the short burst phaser array the "Ripper Cannons"...it fits.
@datastorm755 жыл бұрын
I liked the Defiant. Powerful, but not to the point of having no weaknesses. Specialized for its role.
@mopar_dude92274 жыл бұрын
I always liked the Defiant, it seemed like a much more “realistic” design than all of the other ST ships. My only problem was that for as tough as it was suppose to be, it seemed like it always got beat pretty easily. In the end, it always survived, but in almost every battle it would get disabled during the battle. Of course for a good story, you must have adversities to over come, but it always made the Defiant seem no more powerful than other ships.
@allnamesaretakenful6 жыл бұрын
I don't normally like Federation Starships, but The Defiant is not just my favorite ship from The Federation or the whole of Star Trek, but it is my favorite Starship in all of Sci-Fi. UNSC Infinity is a close second.
@johnm.58482 жыл бұрын
My most favorite ship in the Star Trek Universe.
@raideurng2508 Жыл бұрын
The Pimp Hand of the Emissary.
@cragerzz4 жыл бұрын
So much better than trekyards!! Your voice is pleasant and I can listen for hours but trekyards is painful 🤷🏽♂️🙄
@cernstormrunner72633 жыл бұрын
I love the Defiant so damn much.
@diabreon30946 жыл бұрын
Huh, a video on a DS9 debuting craft, and STO launched the Victory is Life...expansion...thingy... today...
@nicholasmorsovillo2752 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how exactly many ships of the Defiant class did Starfleet build as I know we've seen 4 of them the prototype U.S.S. Defiant,the U.S.S. Valiant and 2 unnamed ships that were part of the fleet that went after the stolen prototype U.S.S. Prometheus so I've always wondered how many more ships of this class did Starfleet intend to build.
@michaellewis15456 жыл бұрын
Another great video. Can you please do the Hammer Head from Space Above and Beyond. You should at least watch the show for good space combat.
@TheVeritas16 жыл бұрын
Hammerhead is a excellent pick for a video. SAAB was also among the first sci-fi properties branching out from the space dogfight standards set by Star Wars.
@rodneypayne48276 жыл бұрын
Michael Lewis -The series was filmed at RAAF base Williamstown Australia, you can see Aussie F18 Hornets in the background of the pilot episode. Great request!
@AlexSDU6 жыл бұрын
Did you know that Russian sent spies to check on the Hammerhead when it was shipped to Australia, thinking that it was US new fighter prototype?
@michaellewis15456 жыл бұрын
AlexSDU I did not that is cool.
@tba1136 жыл бұрын
Something I've always wondered about the Defiant: it was designed specifically to go toe-to-toe with the Borg and destroy their ships, and it had the shields, engines, and weapons of a Federation ship several times its size. But Starfleet ships several times its size, with those same shields, engines, and weapons mounted in a hull that could actually take the strain of using them, were useless deathtraps when facing the Borg. The techno-zombies would quickly adapt their weapons to evaporate whatever shields were being used, and adapt their own shields to effortlessly counter any phasers and photon torpedoes used against them. It wasn't until things like quantum and tricobalt torpedoes entered the scene that the Borg could be threatened for more than a few moments - and that was Voyager, not the Defiant. ...So, what was it about the Defiant that made it useful against the Borg?
@rhyswatkins75455 жыл бұрын
1. It's a smaller target, and Borg usually go for the larger targets first, plus they have more trouble targeting smaller targets (as would most weapon systems). 2. 1 Defiant is NEVER meant to take on a full cube, that's ludicrous. 1 Defiant has the firepower of a Galaxy, and is far cheaper to make, so swarm tactics are a perfectly viable option. 3. The Quad Phaser cannons could be configured so that each pulse has a different frequency, making it harder for the Borg to actually adapt to the weapon.
@eustacemcgoodboy97024 жыл бұрын
100% chance to crit due to triphasic ultanium Plot Armor. Like how Luke blew up the Death Star, 1 Defiant class ship would take out a Borg cube by itself.
@smiddlehurst12 жыл бұрын
If Starfleet had actually followed through with the original plan she was supposed to operate as part of a swarm of Defiant class ships (you can really tell that this entire idea came from Sisko can't you?). So you take all the firepower of a big ship, stick it in a ridiculously fast and well shielded target that's a nimble little so-and-so then put a cloud of 'em around a cube. Everyone sets their weapon systems to a different phase frequency (or other technobabble of the week) and open fire. Good luck adapting to that and even if the Borg manage it there's still an ungodly amount of sheer firepower hitting them. Whatever ships survive then form up to fly in middle finger formation orientated towards the Borg wreckage. Well, that and presumably one of them would have The Sisko aboard so the backup plan was to beam him over with a sledgehammer then just pick him up at the other end of the cube. That works too...
@The--Illusion3 жыл бұрын
If you ever decide to redo this video: The defiant was also a Constitution class ship. Its the one that was lost in interphase. There is also the fact that the São Paulo was renamed to defiant after the original was destroyed, after it was given to Sisko. It also had ablative armor, but not like that of the Voyager. Ablative armor was not something every ship had at the time.
@exposingproxystalkingorgan4164 Жыл бұрын
Starfleet needed more warship capable classes like Defiant, Akira, Norway, Steamrunner, Sabre, Sovereign, Intrepid class ships.
@catac832 жыл бұрын
what makes it formidable is its high maneuverability over a galaxy-class starship like the Enterprise D..too bad the dominion developed the anti-proton beam to detect it even with its cloak on, the beam was even used by the cardassians to detect it
@dizzletron5832 Жыл бұрын
I've always thought that Defiant was a secret collaborative design with the Romulans during the Borg scare and was actually designed with the cloak, then the whole deal was buried afterward. The whole "cloak for dominion intel" trade never made sense to me except as a cover story. I can certainly see the Romulans granting a treaty exemption in exchange for information sharing, but not giving away an actual cloaking device. Yes, they're alarmed by the Dominion, but Starfleet is hardly the only source of information on them. They'd be far more likely to say "we grant you permission to install a Klingon cloak". Particularly since a Klingon cloak would work just as well for the Gamma quadrant -- if anything better as the Klingons have off the shelf cloaks made for Defiant-sized ships (birds of prey) while Romulans don't really have anything sized between a runabout and a Galaxy class. The Borg on the other hand... in 2365-66 Starfleet is the only game in town for info on them because they're literally physically unreachable. We know the Romulans were so desperate for that info they ended their half century of isolation in 64 and agreed to some baseline collaboration with Starfleet. We know cloaking technology is consistently portrayed as an arms race, so Romulan cloaks would have diverged a lot from Klingon ones over the decades. We know the Borg downloaded a lot of data from Enterprise in 65, so it's reasonable to think they knew about a lot about Klingon cloaking devices, but not about Romulan ones. And we know Defiant's phasers function a lot more like disruptors than they do like ordinary Starfleet ship phasers. So it stands to reason that the Starfleet-Romulan collaboration could have extended to working together on the Defiant in secret. Starfleet gets cloaking technology the Borg haven't seen before along with some Romulan disruptor tech, Romulans get to see the insides of Starfleet torpedoes/shields/engines and get info on the Borg. A much fairer trade. And then when Sisko dragged the ship out in 71, both sides still wanted to keep their old collaboration secret, so pretended it was a new agreement and an off the shelf cloak.
@JustTooDamnHonest Жыл бұрын
"Tough little ship."-Commander William Riker
@SwiftGundam6 жыл бұрын
Damn, how many issues did the original prototype suffer through that endangered the crew?
@aragonnetje6 жыл бұрын
Mecha-san all of them
@darwinxavier35166 жыл бұрын
Answer: yes.
@aragonnetje6 жыл бұрын
When the mirror universe tried to build it they almost crashed it in the test flight because they hadn't fixed everything like in the prime universe
@darwinxavier35166 жыл бұрын
Starfleet: "Yeah of course we can build warships. What, you think we can't just because we don't want to? Bitch, we will build a ship as small as a B'rel that has the firepower of a Vor'cha and can outclass a Negh'var. We will load this thing up with so much cutting edge weapon, defense, and propulsion tech that you'll be glad we were never that serious about militarizing before, and utterly opposed to conquest. Cuz you woulda been fuuuuuuucked."
@Duomaxwell02M6 жыл бұрын
I am utterly amused that all this time in the history of Trek the Federation was pulling its punches.
@bernardshrewsbury2 жыл бұрын
I love the design of her. But I think lore reloaded is right in saying the both threat was put out of the federation consciousness and the war time vessels were the result of the dominion, not the Borg
@Gigas01014 жыл бұрын
The Defiant was built to fight the Borg, and got absolutely rinsed by the only Cube it fought. Good job, Starfleet! Good thing Sisko made it a hero ship or this would've been an embarrassment.
@andrepettersson66296 жыл бұрын
If i could like these videos a billion times i would.
@MM229662 жыл бұрын
Starfleet Admiralty and Fed politicians: "Gunship sounds bad, m'kay." Defiant Project: "Well, it will be ESCORTING other ships while gunning down enemy warships with these fracking huge cannons we added to the front." Admiralty & Politicians: "Yay! Go with that!"
@biscuitninja5 жыл бұрын
Though she be but little, she is mighty!
@NivekH4206 жыл бұрын
Why isn’t there a ❤️button
@terryforsdyke3066 жыл бұрын
that seems to be reserved for the persion who posts the video
@JasonWilliams-if6kb4 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed your commentary. Thank you
@casbot716 жыл бұрын
Starfleet should make a bigger version with the same design philosophy. Could you imagine an Intrepid sized Defiant with a massive array of pulse phasers. Nothing too big though, Federation tactics relied on maneuverability. Then again, just mass produce the little bastards. A swarm of those acting like Jem Hidar fighters would be overwhelming.
@matthewcaughey88982 жыл бұрын
In my head cannon I bumped the size up 25 percent larger, added extra weapons and stuffed the biggest warp core I could get into it to build the Normandy Class. Enough firepower to go toe to toe with anything and enough maneuvering power to beat anything flying now and for the next 25 years was our design mantra. We didn’t skimp on armor either with multiple layers of shielding and multiple redundancies so they stay up no matter what hits them. Then you’ve got to chew through future janeway’s ablative generators. As soon as the shields go down the generators kick on automatically. Lastly their’s ablative armor under the generated armor. We built it to hit harder then the Defiant and to get hit harder and keep coming.
@thepoliticalstartrek5 жыл бұрын
My favorite beta cannon spec. Is the ability to load all the quantum torpedoes into the nose. Fire it off and destroy a Borg planet. Though it was designed as a last ditch tactic. This was discussed in The Return.
@FablestoneSeries11 ай бұрын
for several episode sthe writers continued with this premise that a romulan had to be present in order to operate the cloaking device, but by later seasons they had given up on this, and it seems to me to be a pretty significant change to cannon. By the time of Star Trek - First Contact they had completely given up on this.
@kelli2175 жыл бұрын
Featuring another ship of the class at 2:29: The Tnaifed SSU, registry number 50247-XN. (From the mirror universe. 😁)
@jase49296 жыл бұрын
Yes! Been waiting for this one,,this ship could kick some ass big time....how about rikers ship next? The titan mybe? Or luna class as there known....
@orutakawatenga88206 жыл бұрын
A ship long past due for the list of Starfleet's ship classes, I'll admit I'd love to see up to 10% of Starfleet comprised of Akiras, Prometheuses, Sabers, Steamrunners, Norways, Galaxy X refits, Sovereigns, & of course Defiants.
@marleyjr003 жыл бұрын
Still to this day one of my fave ships in all fiction. Maybe just cuz I flew one for so long in STO. Yeah I was a fucking admiral still using a Defiant class to beat the Iconians.
@matthewcaughey88982 жыл бұрын
Your not alone p. This Admiral prefers to fly a ship that says “ I came to be nice but just to be sure you take me seriously”
@Perserra5 жыл бұрын
It wasn't *centuries* of time between the Defiant and Starfleet's last combat vessel. The Federation-class dreadnoughts (canon as a picture of one appears in ST II: Wrath of Khan and described in the original Star Fleet Technical Manual, published in 1975 and re-printed in '86, '96, & '06) were built just a few years after the original Constitution-class heavy cruiser/explorer (somewhere between 2250-2270). The Federation-class was controversial, being the last purpose-built Federation war vessel. For this reason they had a very short operational span before being decommissioned or converted for less-aggressive uses, but they were a thing. The Defiant's construction was finished in 2370, so no more than 120 years after the Federation-class.
@avengermkii78726 жыл бұрын
Tough little ship
@ryandtibbetts29626 жыл бұрын
AvengerMKII "Little?"
@uss_046 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this. Dont torget that Junkball Media video about the Defiants Bow Doors, which is supposedly by the deflector dish, lol.
@hawkstringfellow5 жыл бұрын
I love the defiant and the galaxy class ships and the intrepid class