The COMPLETE BTRFS Snapshot Guide

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BTRFS Snapshots are a feature that every single Synology user should be using. They protect you form ransomware, file corruption, and even dumb deletes, all at an incredibly low cost. This tutorial goes over the complete BTRFS Snapshot setup guide on Synology NAS.
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TOC
0:00 Intro
6:02 What are BTRFS Snapshots
7:55 Simplified Snapshot space usage
9:40 overview in DSM
12:33 What folders and how often should you snapshot?
19:05 Snapshots in action
24:08 Restore from ransomware
26:48 Conclusion
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@mattiesmusic
@mattiesmusic 2 жыл бұрын
Now this is quality content, another reason why I like SpaceRex so much. Straight to the point, very clear and complete explenation, and also says why. In the mids of all of those "pretend" youtubers that pretend to know something, it's good to know there's at least one channel with true quality content. Even if I already know what you're saying, it's still ever so fascinating to watch your videos, never know when I might something new. So in short: A very big thanks for your awesome videos
@SpaceRexWill
@SpaceRexWill 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Really means a lot
@raylopez99
@raylopez99 2 жыл бұрын
SpaceRex is the best salesman that Synology has, and I bet probably he's not even paid (even if he is, he's worth it).
@markboyd934
@markboyd934 Жыл бұрын
@Matties Music - I was just about to comment exactly what you said above....could not agree with you more. SpaceRex is one of my go-to channels. Love the topics that he covers. Really enjoyed the 2 part series on "Synology for Photographers".
@dennispater8833
@dennispater8833 Жыл бұрын
​@@raylopez99 he is the reason why i choose Synology as my nas 😂
@raylopez99
@raylopez99 Жыл бұрын
@@dennispater8833 True. But just today, I had a Synology issue that maybe our host can do a video on: I installed a "Wi-Fi mesh repeater" and now my NAS is not being recognized by the "find the NAS on your home intranet' link that you type into your browser. I think it's because of the mesh repeater. I have to play around with it and see if I can get it back. No worries, it's probably a minor workaround.
@heckyes
@heckyes Жыл бұрын
Best description on KZfaq of what BTRFS, why it's useful, it's downsides, and how it works at a high level.
@Vicvines
@Vicvines 9 ай бұрын
My man. Everybody has been telling me to make snapshots but I always thought it was some technical thing I would never need like so many things I've come across with my Synology. Your first 2 minutes talking about it made me realize I need to have them so I just set them up the same way you did. I still don't 100% understand them but at least I have them if something bad happens and someone asks me "Do you have snapshots?" I can say yes. Thanks my man!
@DavidDWalton
@DavidDWalton 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Spacerex! I’m a new subscriber and fan. I’ve only had my DS920+ for a few days, but it’s already up and running perfectly, largely thanks to your content. There’s so few people on KZfaq making Synology content on this level. Thank you for what you do!
@SpaceRexWill
@SpaceRexWill 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@brianhansen6906
@brianhansen6906 Жыл бұрын
Nice Choice on the NAS. I have the same and you'll be very happy with it. Spacerex is an excellent resource. NAScompares is another. the two actually did a video together recently which was quite awesome.
@jsully007
@jsully007 Жыл бұрын
you are like a breath of fresh air on youtube. great information communicated clearly without fluff or endless begging and "reminders" to like/subscribe/click bells/blah blah blah. I VERY rarely do any of those things for anyone, I did here though. I'm currently switching from a Drobo to a Synology and your videos have been extremely useful explaining all the new things at my disposal. thank you.
@SpaceRexWill
@SpaceRexWill Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks man! Glad you like the channel!
@pietschreuder5047
@pietschreuder5047 2 жыл бұрын
Your previous video's made me migrate to BTRFS and set the Synology up as You suggested. I know now that I am fully covered: Snapshots for most files, daily incremental backup of the whole system and a cloud storage for my most important files. When from home, I can remotely log in to the Synology, but I have also access to the cloud system. No sweat! BTW, snapshot reminds me of the old Salvage command on Novell Netware. That function saved the day for me many times in the old days! Thanks for your great video's!
@linochacon266
@linochacon266 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks spacerex for this great video. I found this video to be one of the best I have ever seen in your channel. Great content, proper pauses within, practical examples, the ins and out of the content etc. thanks again I really appreciate your time for putting this video together.
@SpaceRexWill
@SpaceRexWill 2 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks! I felt like it was as well! I have felt like they have been getting a good bit better recently
@m0rthaus
@m0rthaus Жыл бұрын
Great presentation. For clarification, when you have to "go to IT to restore a backup of a file", if that file is anything older than a week or two, they are typically going to an offsite backup - usually a data tape - and restoring from that. So when they sigh and say that the restore will take 12 hours or 1 day, its not laziness or disorganization. They literally have to determine which tape they need from the backup set, call or email the tape warehouse company and arrange return of the tape, wait for delivery, insert tape, sometimes perform a read command which indexes the tape data before they can check what they can restore from it, then restore the data to a temp folder which can take an hour or so depending on where the data is on the tape physically, then put it somewhere the user can access. All the while they also have to update the ticket and manage update queries from the user who may be anxious for their file(s). Also, this is not unusual at all - almost all medium to large businesses have offsite backups on a specific retention period, and many of them still use tape as it is very high capacity and quite quick to backup a lot of data (LTO tapes are up to 18TB each currently). TL;DR: don't get too frustrated at the IT team when they're restoring a lost file and it takes longer than you expect, it is often a laborious process for them, and often not possible for them to speed up significantly as much of the time is waiting for the delivery or waiting for the restore process.
@mikereadinguk2879
@mikereadinguk2879 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent. So informative , easy to understand and useful. Keep up the good work.
@ashnaura
@ashnaura Жыл бұрын
You are a lifesaver... Watched all your other videos on Synology. Subscribed and recommending to others as well. Please keep up the good work. Thank you so much.
@ademkollari8992
@ademkollari8992 Жыл бұрын
I think I finally may have started to understand snapshots. I'll give em a try. Running 920+ I acquired recently. Thank you!
@kb4
@kb4 4 ай бұрын
Great tutorials for Synology. I've been a Synology Partner for many years and I don't know why I haven't found your videos before. Great information!
@tarcisio_menezes
@tarcisio_menezes Жыл бұрын
So informative and useful! Even for people like me that don't use Synology. I loved the analogy between snapshot and the trash bin when the file is deleted. That's quality content! Thank you so much! Subscribed!
@firewire3212
@firewire3212 Жыл бұрын
Another excellent video. I had been using versioning within the Drive Admin Console but Snapshot is a no brainer. Thanks again Spacerex!
@20centurymodern
@20centurymodern Жыл бұрын
Incredibly clear and descriptive, keep up the wonderful videos!
@Bluecoat64738
@Bluecoat64738 6 ай бұрын
Great video! You really explained all important about snapshots! Thanks a lot!
@truckturner3175
@truckturner3175 7 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for your easily to follow explanations! Helped me a lot already!
@karlfoley
@karlfoley 2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for the useful content, I now have this setup on my shares. :) I already was using HyperBackup to backup to BackBlaze, but this lets me do local recovery without having to pull stuff back from my online backup.
@Jeff_Seely
@Jeff_Seely 6 ай бұрын
Oh yes BTRFS snaps have really saved my butt. Great demo and explanation!
@wrehtube
@wrehtube Жыл бұрын
What a great introduction to snapshot. Thanks for that !!
@waterbourne9282
@waterbourne9282 Жыл бұрын
Really appreciate your videos, really helped my set up and refine my DS720+.
@andywilson8276
@andywilson8276 Жыл бұрын
Nice one mate. Super helpful. Clawed back 5TB
@DrJosephSweeney
@DrJosephSweeney 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for this tutorial! Very helpful!
@osbornecropfield4058
@osbornecropfield4058 2 жыл бұрын
Great video - thanks. Very useful an informative. Appreciate it.
@droneforfun5384
@droneforfun5384 2 жыл бұрын
Go for huge amount of drives and set snapshots to maximum, YOLO. Thanks for good video Will.
@SpaceRexWill
@SpaceRexWill 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly lol
@david243121
@david243121 Жыл бұрын
Awesome info! Thanks
@brianhansen6906
@brianhansen6906 Жыл бұрын
Excellent content as usual. Thankyou for the clear concise explanations.
@SpaceRexWill
@SpaceRexWill Жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@jennifermedia6288
@jennifermedia6288 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Will. .Excellent informative video again.
@paco8080
@paco8080 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video! Thanks a lot!
@stefanlindstrom7212
@stefanlindstrom7212 Жыл бұрын
Great information thank you so much !!
@johnplanetz
@johnplanetz Жыл бұрын
Very well explained, thanks!
@thesmuuuuggh
@thesmuuuuggh Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! thanks.
@EuroPC4711
@EuroPC4711 2 жыл бұрын
HinSpaceRex, first of all, I’d like to thank you for your videos. For business you said taking snapshots every four hours or so. It only with fast disks and a fast NAS. I j+have now a 16 21plus with 3x8 TB iron wolf as raid5. The amount of users is quite low, three Synology Drive Users.
@ccbphoto
@ccbphoto Жыл бұрын
Thanks Will!
@Vandroiy78
@Vandroiy78 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your videos which have helped me a lot. :-)
@SpaceRexWill
@SpaceRexWill Жыл бұрын
Happy to help man!
@terorvlad
@terorvlad 2 ай бұрын
2000+$ for what's essentially a big external hard drive was absolutely laughable at first glance. But with all these amazing features it is absolutely crazy NOT to have at least one NAS in a business nowadays. I did not think I would come to love this expensive box of hard drives, but it truly makes life so easy when dealing with tens of TB of data.
@camc702
@camc702 Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@GunmanBricks
@GunmanBricks 7 ай бұрын
thanks a lot for your information... amazing
@StanimirTodorov
@StanimirTodorov 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@SpaceRexWill
@SpaceRexWill 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@abelvarela
@abelvarela 11 ай бұрын
great job
@drheili
@drheili 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all your excellent Synology vids. I'm new to NAS on my home network and need it primarily for photo storage. I just installed a NS920+. Your videos have gotten me up to speed quickly with which apps to install and how to configure them. Thanks again and keep up the great work. Quick question, any suggestions for a good duplicate file finder. I know I have many duplicate images and would like to clean them up.
@SpaceRexWill
@SpaceRexWill 2 жыл бұрын
Check out storage analyzer, will find dupes very well. You do have to manually go through them, but you always should manually go through dupes
@childhoodbusiness5057
@childhoodbusiness5057 Жыл бұрын
Hi SpaceRex, I just found your videos on Synology and I am stunned! You provide so much valuable information and do it in such a humble way. Thanks for your work! Regrading snapshots: I would have loved to hear a word about "recycle bin" on a Synology vs. Snapshots ... Shall I get rid of the bins? Or are they useful as an hourly snapshot might miss a new file on the NAS that got deleted before a snapshot is taken? And will the bin also get snapshooted?
@SpaceRexWill
@SpaceRexWill Жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Really glad you like the channel! For me I generally disable recycling bins to make it simple. The one use they can have is the imitate delete, then regret. So you can still have one, but just have it emptied every single night. The bin will be snapshotted
@translucidmedia
@translucidmedia Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@PlanetLinuxChannel
@PlanetLinuxChannel Жыл бұрын
Incredibly helpful video!How does this relate / compare to the file versioning in Synology Drive?
@dalan81
@dalan81 2 жыл бұрын
Just got my 920+ and am finding your channel very helpful as a microbusiness owner and someone who plans on using the NAS for multiple tasks. Your overview of snapshots makes lots of sense, as I was trying to figure out the backup options (full, incremental, etc.) and realize now that snapshots play an important role there as well. So, if I have setup retention policy in ActiveBackup do I also need to turn on snapshots in Snapshot Replication for ActiveBackup, or does ActiveBackup already use them automatically? (given that I don't see an option for incremental backup).
@zac2641
@zac2641 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the informative video. If I have a shared folder dedicated to mac time machine backups, would you recommend protecting it with btrfs snapshots? Or would that be overkill?
@frankboyer1490
@frankboyer1490 4 ай бұрын
Love your videos! Do you have a link for where you got that shirt?
@justinjones9255
@justinjones9255 3 ай бұрын
The way you described why making SS visible is beneficial sounds like when using Time Machine to go back to the TM backups on a Mac and looking for a file that, for example, you may have deleted and you want to retrieve it. All of course without the snazzy Mac graphical interface. Yes?
@pgotze
@pgotze 2 жыл бұрын
Generally i use snapshots locally + snapshots replication to offsite in case on remote system i like to see it as it is on original NAS. I combine it with HyperBackup in cases, when i want to have backed up data more secured (encrypted, compressed and via password encapsulated) on remote backup NAS. Both have advantages / disadvantages. In some situations, snapshot versions take more disc space of backup, then hyperbackup versions.
@SpaceRexWill
@SpaceRexWill 2 жыл бұрын
For me I only use snapshot replication when I want someone to be able to recover instantly, like if the onsite NAS crashed they would drive offsite, pickup the backup and bring it to the office. For any other case I use hyperbackup as it gives you compression, clear versioning, and just overall ability to recover a bit better in case of a full blown disaster
@cparker4486
@cparker4486 2 жыл бұрын
I think I might have now been the motivation for two videos. 🤣🤣
@daylightSWW
@daylightSWW 8 ай бұрын
First I have to thank you for your amazing videos. Thanks to them I am waiting for my Nas to arrive. I'm elderly (almost 70) and I just can't geek out on my own like I used to be able to. Question: Can an administrator account browse an snapshot of an encrypted folder or do they have to clone it also?
@gearboxworks
@gearboxworks Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video, lots of great info. After owning a DS1817+ since new for file storage but for what I am now calling my Homelab - thanks to learning the name from all the KZfaqrs - I am finally setting up snapshots. But one thing that is confusing me; replication vs. snapshots. I did not realize I could set up a snapshot schedule in the snapshots section and so set up snapshots in the replication section. That duplicated all my shares with a "-1" suffix, but also created snapshots for both shares and their duplicates, or so it would appear. Now I don't know what I should do regarding how to configure them. Have you created a video about the differences? If not, I think that could be a great topic for you to cover. Thanks in advance for taking the time to reply.
@SgtSOB
@SgtSOB 7 ай бұрын
Thanks SpaceRex!!! If I use Snapshots can I turn off file versioning in Synology Drive? Thanks!
@turisma_music
@turisma_music 11 ай бұрын
Great video! But does it makes sense to use Synology Snapshots if I already use Timemachine on my macOS with the Synology NAS?
@edcoppen
@edcoppen 8 ай бұрын
@spacerex. I use Cloud Sync to pull my OneDrive data to a shared folder on a NAS. Is it better to use snapshot replication to protect this data, or to use Active Backup for Microsoft 365 please?
@chadcordero1618
@chadcordero1618 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I set up btrfs when setting up my nas and didn't know how to set up snapshots. I have a nube question for anyone reading this. Is there any reason to make snapshots visible on the homes folder? I found that the #snapshot folder is only visible in the root (homes) folder and there is not #snapshot folder in the user's home folder.
@thekitchenmakeovershop1504
@thekitchenmakeovershop1504 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for a great explanation of snapshot. Do you have a tutorial on snapshot of homes? If making the snapshots visible, does this means that all users will have access to the snapshots of the files in homes and will be able to see other user's homes?
@dirkziegler9580
@dirkziegler9580 11 ай бұрын
Currently I am only using HyperBackup (backing up on Remote-NAS locally on another place as my home-NAS) to backup my NAS-data. I have enabled backup rotation there keeping maximum of 60 versions. When I configure and use SNAPSHOTS, is it still necessary to make use of backup rotation?
@aodhfin
@aodhfin 10 ай бұрын
I did an initial Snapshot which included the homes folder. However, the #snapshot folder appears in the homes folder but not in the individual's home folder. This means an individual user can not browse the snapshots of their home folder but only shared folders. Is there a workaround for this so the individual user can see their own home folder snapshots?
@davidmiko8954
@davidmiko8954 Ай бұрын
Hi SpaceRex, thanks for this overview. very useful! I am wondering if this is effectively the same thing as versioning in Drive Share Sync? And does it duplicate the data if you have both running? We have two separate offices which are synced over Drive ShareSync. Both units are identical and both sides worked on by separate teams simultaneously. It works mostly well but we noticed one of the units has a lot more of the data used up (by several terrabytes). We were reducing the number of versions in Drive share sync to try to reduce the data hogging but I am now wondering if the space is not actually released that way?
@danimoosakhan
@danimoosakhan Жыл бұрын
Can you do video on ssd caching? I think it's worth it with M.2 NVMe drive if your Synology supports it.
@DavidM2002
@DavidM2002 8 ай бұрын
I can't see where you can create a snapshot of an entire volume on the Synology NAS. Recently, QNAP rolled out an app update that was badly flawed but it was not possible to go back to the old version of the app. So, what some users did, who had snapshots of their entire volume, was to roll back the volume from those snapshots.
@dollhausenx
@dollhausenx Жыл бұрын
You should probably start with the space issue by showing how to calculate size to make an informed decision for creating, how often and how many.
@LuxuriantCarrot
@LuxuriantCarrot 18 сағат бұрын
You have an amazing voice
@robwebb2052
@robwebb2052 2 жыл бұрын
Great content! How do these Snapshots interact with Synology Drive? Lets say I have two NASs (NASi?) both running BTRFS and Synology Drive is syncing folders between them. The snapshots of those folders are completely independent, correct? I can put a file in a shared folder, it will get synced to the other shared folder. If both are doing snapshots, that file will then be in each folder's independent snapshots. I can then delete the file from one of them, Synology Drive will delete it from the other, but it will be in the snapshots on both sides?
@SpaceRexWill
@SpaceRexWill 2 жыл бұрын
Yes they will!
@brandonelliotphotography
@brandonelliotphotography Жыл бұрын
Looking to upgrade NAS to take advantage of BTRFS -- which would you recommend, 1522+ or is it worth spending $200 more for the 1621+?
@JPK1337
@JPK1337 Жыл бұрын
i really like your videos, solid gold, every single topic. but your voice sounds like you are stoned 24/7 :D
@TheJoaolyraaraujo
@TheJoaolyraaraujo 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Can you follow up with snapshot replication with VPN on Unifi.
@ManishKumar-pu2oo
@ManishKumar-pu2oo 7 ай бұрын
Hi SpaceRex, is it possible to create scheduled snapshots of PC's, android devices, IOS devices, MAC on Synology NAS ?? please reply ....
@MrMartin0815
@MrMartin0815 Ай бұрын
Do I need to consider anything regarding snapshots when backing up entire directories with visible #Snapshot-Folders externally using Hyper Backup? I don't want the snapshot files to be backed up additionally!
@nkish
@nkish 5 ай бұрын
Would Snapshots still be useful if the I’m primarily using the NAS as storage for Plex Media Server (so mostly a lot of large video files that don’t change)? If so, what is the purpose of a snapshot of these types of files? The files themselves wouldn’t change, so no need to save or recall previous versions of a file.
@michaelrobinson9643
@michaelrobinson9643 Жыл бұрын
Where long term snapshot can help may be if you are absent for extended periods and you want to have a snapshot present that won't be overwritten in absence. This would be useful for example if you were hit with crypto while away... and your NAS diligently replaced all snapshots with ones representing your encrypted data. Osentisbly your backup would cover this... but it is a scenario where a longer hold may be good. Rate of data change would be a factor in this. I use a long hold for things like my media - pictures, music etc where I'm not deleting just occasionally adding.
@SpaceRexWill
@SpaceRexWill Жыл бұрын
Yeah, thats kinda what I try to feel out with a client is "how long before you notice this" and "how much storage is this goign to take if I leave it for 2 months"
@michaelrobinson9643
@michaelrobinson9643 Жыл бұрын
@@SpaceRexWill I'm trying to get my hed around how to structure a relatively low number of snapshots to keep the reserved space small, yet still have one that is retained for 6 weeks. Daily, a weekly, then 1 at 6 weeks.
@alienfoo9528
@alienfoo9528 Жыл бұрын
Hi Spacerex, i want to setup the snapshot replication but not sure if this is workable. Need your professional advice. i have 3 NAS. Can you let me know which scenario is workable for snapshot replication? 1. Create a task for Primary NAS>Replicate To>NAS A. Then create a task for NAS A>Replicate To>NAS B 2. Create a task for Primary NAS>Replicate To>NAS A & also >Replicate To>NAS B
@justinknash
@justinknash 2 жыл бұрын
When enabling snapshots, do they also get sent with HyperBackup (e.g. into S3)? I don't want them to if possible.
@SpaceRexWill
@SpaceRexWill 2 жыл бұрын
No they do not
@a_mouse6858
@a_mouse6858 Жыл бұрын
How do DSM snapshots interact with regular file versioning? If you are taking regular snapshots of an entire shared folder, does it make sense to turn off retention policies at the file level?
@PantherFinance
@PantherFinance 6 ай бұрын
Theoretically yes. Currently, I am searching for answer to this question too, but since I see no disadvantage or risk there I will turn it off. Maybe this can help somehow after 10 months haha
@aayush_dutt
@aayush_dutt Жыл бұрын
@SpaceRexWill should I enable snapshot schedule in my docker volume (which may have those frequent file changes). If yes what rules do you recommend?
@SpaceRexWill
@SpaceRexWill Жыл бұрын
You should still! Really useful for if you mess something up. Biggest thing will just be setting appropriate retention policy’s
@notreallyme425
@notreallyme425 2 жыл бұрын
I run snapshots on all my shares, but I also have recycle bins on some of them too. I run a daily task to empty all recycle bins for any files greater than 30 days. If I run multiple snapshots daily, is there any reason not to empty my recycle bins of any files older than 2 days? (I like having the recycle bins in case I delete something accidentally that was new and was never captured by a snapshot). I assume BTRFS deduplicates files that are in the snapshot and the recycle bin, correct?
@SpaceRexWill
@SpaceRexWill 2 жыл бұрын
For me I only normally have the recycling bin empty everything each night. That way if you delete something you can quickly grab it. But if it’s been a few days you can just go to the snapshot
@ahmedaborady7883
@ahmedaborady7883 Ай бұрын
I know its not very doable from file system perspective, but i wish i can enable snapshots on a subfolder I have a shared folder of around 7TB with only a few critical subfolders inside of which i would love to have snapshots for but for that i have to replicate 7TB of data that wont change much actually
@malm1231
@malm1231 Жыл бұрын
great vid thanks -would editing ID3 tags on an mp3 file be considered a change by this program? or play count if the file has been read? - should i disable recycle bin if using this feature? do you think it would cause issues with other recycle bins of sync applications? (eg resilio sync's "SYNC" folder)
@SpaceRexWill
@SpaceRexWill Жыл бұрын
So this system does not really care about files. All it cares about is the underlying data. In your case where you edited 1KB of meta data, of a 50 MB file, all BTRFS sees is a change to the 1KB of data. Meaning that the previous version of that file is simply different by 1 KB, so the snapshot “costs” 1 KB As for a recycling bin I would leave it on, but empty it every night. It’s nice to be able to grab the file as it was just before it was deleted
@malm1231
@malm1231 Жыл бұрын
@@SpaceRexWill you are an absolute champ thank you :)
@TWARDOWSKY.
@TWARDOWSKY. 2 жыл бұрын
are synology snapshot protect from ransomware attacked Direkt to Synology OS or SMB folder connected to attacked PC ? Where are the ?Snapshot storage?
@SpaceRexWill
@SpaceRexWill 2 жыл бұрын
Snapshots protect against any ransomeware that does not get root access to the NAS as only root users can delete snapshots
@07GoldWinger
@07GoldWinger 2 жыл бұрын
I did not understand your Time Machine schedule policy. Are you saying schedule backup on one day of the week only (ex. Monday) with the retention only set to latest for the week for 1 week?
@SpaceRexWill
@SpaceRexWill 2 жыл бұрын
since time machine already has versioning I would run time machine daily, then only have snapshots weekly. This way you have one 'just in case' something happens, but it doesn't take up tons of space
@davidshropshire793
@davidshropshire793 Жыл бұрын
Great tutorials SpaceRex! Do I understand correctly that if all my NAS shared folders take up 4 TB, then doing Snapshots for them will require an additional 4 TB on the NAS? Another question: Is there a reason or a way to run Snapshots on a Windows PC?
@SpaceRexWill
@SpaceRexWill Жыл бұрын
That is incorrect! The snapshots do not take up space unless you delete files. As for windows i am not sure, you may be able to use shadow copies but they may be editable. You can always use active backup for business
@davidshropshire793
@davidshropshire793 Жыл бұрын
@@SpaceRexWill Thanks for the clarification. I assumed it was taking up space, because the properties of a snapshot in the #snapshot folder within the shared folder was the exact same size as data in the shared folder.
@Maverick7r
@Maverick7r Жыл бұрын
Thank you!! I was scanning the comments trying to figure out what to do. I'm just setting up my NAS and haven't migrated my data over yet, (getting everything setup first). I was trying to figure out if I should setup Snapshots before or after I copy all my data over to the NAS. From this response it sounds like it doesn't matter since it only takes a snapshot of files that are deleted or modified so I can go ahead and setup Snapshots and then copy my data over. I was worried it would try and make a snapshot of everything I was putting on my device which would double the space needed... hopefully I've got all that correct. 🙂
@pilotbum
@pilotbum Жыл бұрын
I have two Synology NAS's running BTRFS in two locations. Presently I have them Syncing using ShareSync and each device backs up to the other every other day using HyperBackup. I am not presently using Snapshot replication. In my setup, given the two different locations, would I be better off setting up Snapshot Replication locally on each device or across to the opposite device?
@SpaceRexWill
@SpaceRexWill Жыл бұрын
If you already have share sync running you should use hyper backup
@pilotbum
@pilotbum Жыл бұрын
@@SpaceRexWill I currently have both of those running (ShareSync & Hyper Backup). With the two of those running should I not bother Snapshot Replication (which is not running)? Or if I should use Snapshot Replication, should I run it to replicate on the local device or the opposite device?
@IMBlakeley
@IMBlakeley Жыл бұрын
Do I understand right encrypted folder snapshots are not visible but you could recover the whole folder somehow?
@SpaceRexWill
@SpaceRexWill Жыл бұрын
They are not as easily visible. But what you can do is “clone with new name” to see the encrypted shared folders snapshot. It’s just slower
@ronald0122
@ronald0122 11 ай бұрын
record file access time on default daily or off?
@SpaceRexWill
@SpaceRexWill 11 ай бұрын
I turn it off
@harpersneil
@harpersneil Жыл бұрын
Can I back a EXT4 Volume to an external drive, wipe my Synology NAS, then use Hyper Back Up to restore all my Data and Settings? I'm worried that because they're different File Systems that it won't work.
@SpaceRexWill
@SpaceRexWill Жыл бұрын
Yes you can!
@DaystromDataConcepts
@DaystromDataConcepts Жыл бұрын
I am debating whether to enable snapshots in my scenario. My NAS is essentially a write once, read many (WORM) unit, in that I rip DVD's and BD's and store them on the NAS ... and that's it. So, with that use case in mind, is it still worth me enabling snapshots at all? BTW, I do have full external backups of all this data and update that backup after every five or ten newly added rips, which could translate to a new backup every couple of months or so.
@SpaceRexWill
@SpaceRexWill Жыл бұрын
You absolutely should snapshot! The beauty of snapshots is if nothing changes, they take up no space. They will just be a safeguard in case a computer gets a virus
@DaystromDataConcepts
@DaystromDataConcepts Жыл бұрын
@@SpaceRexWill I hear you, but should my NAS become encrypted via ransom ware or all the files corrupted from a virous, then the snapshot will fill my volume and not be able to snapshot everything changed as I have currently less space left than is used, so I'd have to resort to a wipe and restore, or am I missing something?
@SpaceRexWill
@SpaceRexWill Жыл бұрын
In that case the virus will get an error when your volume is full. After that you can just restore the shared folder to a clean snapshot, and boom, in 2 seconds you have your volume back up and running
@DaystromDataConcepts
@DaystromDataConcepts Жыл бұрын
@@SpaceRexWill Excellent point! I had not considered that. Thank you so much for settling this in my mind, snapshots it is! :)
@gfriedman99
@gfriedman99 Жыл бұрын
So if you disable 'record file access time' then the timestamps on files never change? Or is this something else? I like to see files sorted from newest to oldest at times.
@SpaceRexWill
@SpaceRexWill Жыл бұрын
This is only for logging when a file is opened, not when it’s modified. Turning off access times will still let you sort by date modified
@gfriedman99
@gfriedman99 Жыл бұрын
@@SpaceRexWill Awesome! Thanks and Happy New Year!!!
@ultraplexplextor
@ultraplexplextor Жыл бұрын
c2 storage 2TB Hyper backup/hybrid share management ds918+ Hi Can i delete my Hybrid share 500GB Storage without messing up my Hyper Backup Storage? i use DSM 6.2 so i cannot use it (Hybrid share)
@PlanetLinuxChannel
@PlanetLinuxChannel Жыл бұрын
If users only have access to their own home folder, can they not access #snapshot? If the users are granted access to the shared homes folder there #snapshot is, then couldn’t they also at least view other users’ home directories, which seems problematic?
@rexhoss
@rexhoss Жыл бұрын
I just started using snapshot replication on your advice. I'm seeing red minus signs on some of the folders I have snapshots enabled on. I can't figure out what the minus signs on the snapshot icon means? Any ideas?
@SpaceRexWill
@SpaceRexWill Жыл бұрын
That just means they are read only!
@rexhoss
@rexhoss Жыл бұрын
@SpaceRex oh, interesting. It seems to be on some, but not all of the snapshot files in various folders I set up for snapshots but I thought I set them all the same
@wesc6755
@wesc6755 2 жыл бұрын
That's the easy case. Taking snapshots of /Homes is weird. Users won't have access to /Homes/#snapshot so they can't self-admin the files they will most often need to recover. Docs say that (on WIndows) the Previous Version tab on file properties can be used, but I've never seen anything appear there on any machine on the network. If there's a solution where users can self-admin their Home folder, please let me know.
@SpaceRexWill
@SpaceRexWill 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, because of the way home folders work (using sambas remapping) it is a bit odd. Best case might be to use drive versions? Then users could self administer
@Crazy--Clown
@Crazy--Clown Жыл бұрын
Thnx Willy
@zedzegerman
@zedzegerman 23 күн бұрын
hey, but a ransomware can encrypt even the snapshots folder, isn't it so ? what do you do then ?
@SpaceRexWill
@SpaceRexWill 23 күн бұрын
They can’t. Snapshots are read only
@camerachris
@camerachris 8 ай бұрын
Would there be a reason that a particular folder would not be made available in the snapshot setup list? My main "Home" folder isn't there. There is a "Homes" folder but not my main home one that is where the majority of my stored content resides.
@SpaceRexWill
@SpaceRexWill 8 ай бұрын
the home folder is within Homes so if you snapshot homes you can recover your home folder
@camerachris
@camerachris 8 ай бұрын
@@SpaceRexWill , thank you kindly
@stephanecouvreur1377
@stephanecouvreur1377 Ай бұрын
I messed up my Plex library by activating Snapshot on the Movies folder (no replication), because Plex scanned the snapshot folder. Now, the Plex library shows broken associations, duplicate movies with missing files everywhere. I haven't been able to recover the original Plex library, because its snapshot was made after the Movies folder had been processed by snapshot. How I solved the problem: - I made snapshots invisible in the movie folders which are scanned by Plex. - I rescanned all folders with Plex, optimized the database and cleaned the bundles, stopped & restarted Plex and everything seems to be back to normal.
@96indashade
@96indashade 3 ай бұрын
Would making the snapshot folder visible make your snapshots vulnerable to hackers (since they can see that you're using snapshots)?
@SpaceRexWill
@SpaceRexWill 3 ай бұрын
But they can’t do anything about them
@RMD80GAMER
@RMD80GAMER 2 жыл бұрын
Can you save the snap shots on external hard drive?
@SpaceRexWill
@SpaceRexWill 2 жыл бұрын
You cannot. They have to be on the hard drive that you are running
@RMD80GAMER
@RMD80GAMER 2 жыл бұрын
@@SpaceRexWill Dam i was hooping you could do a snap shot and put into cold storage 😞
@DavidM2002
@DavidM2002 Жыл бұрын
When you are talking about recovering from a ransomware attack, are you assuming that the Synology was NOT encrypted ? I'm a bit confused because, if it was the Synology that was ransomwared / encrypted, I would assume that the Snapshot files were encrypted and therefore of no value.
@SpaceRexWill
@SpaceRexWill Жыл бұрын
That’s the beauty of this. If they encrypt the files over SMB or any non admin account they cannot encrypt the snapshots as they are read only
@DavidM2002
@DavidM2002 Жыл бұрын
@@SpaceRexWill Excellent. I've just followed your video step by step and finally enabled Snapshots. Many thanks.
@iamnotapoet
@iamnotapoet 6 ай бұрын
Thanks, as always for the FANTASTIC video[s]. And here is a quick and dumb question. I THINK I know the answer, but want. to triple check. Are there any RULES about deleting individual snapshots? Are there any DEPENDECIES? Meaning, can you ARBITRARILY delete any random snapshots you like? I can't think of a reason you would need to... But let's say you have 200 snapshots and you want to RANDOMLY delete 70 of them.. Contigious ones, discontinuous ones etc [10 recent snapshots, 30 very old ones, a few in the middle etc.. Is that allowed? Or certain snapshots NOT allowed to be deleted. Thanks for your words of wisdom. - Eric ZORK Alan & Sweetie [ Professional Poets & Bed 🛏 & Beer🍺 Vloggers ]
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