What do you mean by 'dont expose to the internet' -- most people running a NAS want to be able to connect to it via the internet (access photos, docuements, etc). As long as you read the docs and only open ports specifically for NAS use you should be fine.

ya but what if they are not NAS-TYPE drives? like seagate 3TB barracuda or Tohisba x300 WD Blue 2TB , blacks, etc... I dont have any NAS type drives but have several drives laying around

And how can i stream my music when im driving my car without exposing my nas to the internet?

@@chrishalle1982 Look into installing tailscale on your synology. Sets up a VPN from single devices to your NAS. No ports required to be opened at the router

UPS ??

Thanks!

You're not the only one.

In the same boat funny enough!

You are a lucky man. Not every Synology supports SHR. Highend1621xs + does not have SHR .... no comment ........

@@mario-sz I use SHR-1 with a 1511+ and DX1510 (10 HDDs) for around 11 Years. Started with 2 TB Drives and over the Years going to 4 and now 8 TB Drives. Nice Feature. The next replacement of one 4 TB Drive for an 8 is already in sight. Takes a long Time (around 5 Days, but that's okay for me). Next step are 16 TB Drives. I don't know the Hardware Limit of the old 1511+. According to Synologys HDD List that would be 6 TB Drives but why not?

I have a 4 bay symbology NAS, running RAID 5. Initially I set it up with 2 x 2TB, and 2 x 1TB domestic disks. 1 disk died, and I replaced them with 4 x 4TB NAS disks, and increased the storage space, during the upgrading process (DSM offers you the option as you replace the drives). It took me most of a day to actually swap out the old disks (shutdown 1 disk, remove, swap, repair volume, wait, rinse, lather, repeat)

Also, even though I am using RAID 1 on my NAS, I still back it up to a DAS. I prefer doing this in lieu of doing tripple redundancy on the NAS itself (which would require a NAS with more than two bays). That way, if the NAS fails, I can plug the DAS into a computer and quickly access the data.

i was wondering about the life expectancy of my synology nas, are you saying you've had the same nas for 15 years?

@@christophercoronado9551 2. The first one, a two-bay, was still working when I replaced it a few years ago, but I wanted a faster processor.

@@terryforsythe8083 what's 2? i have a 718+ and i'm running low on disk space. was thinking about getting bigger hard drives, but then got curious about the nas life expectancy and if i should just hold out for a nas with more bays. i've had mine for 3yrs

@@christophercoronado9551 2 means I have bought two Synologys. I am on my second one. The first one was still working when I replaced it. It was just slow by modern standards.

I'm in same boat. Just need space what I can access anywhere on my network that it's not going out side to the internet. Stupid phones are filling up fast. Backing them up only means putting them away where I can't access them. So NAS would be good option for easy access.

2 18TB in RAID0 ? You must have a lot of time putting that back together once 1 drive crashes and you loose everything

@@dummyload7803 It took me 2 weeks to put it there to begin with. I do not regret it either...The unit has been rock solid. AND I have loved using some of the other features... Like the VPN Server & Synology Drive Client. But I get your point... I will probably be looking to upgrade to a 4-6 bay next year.

yeah, my 2bay is now full up. major regret.

@@liam4184 If you have a 2bay NAS example 2x 8TB, cant you just upgrade to two 10 or 16TB ect, ??

@@negueba235689 Yeah you can. Just a lot of money to double it up, and then you have two harddrive that are useless.

None of the XS units have SHR because of performance issues. SHR can give you non uniform performance with mixed drive sizes, and synology assumes XS users want max performance at all times

If your passwords are strong and you have auto block then brute force is all but impossible

dmz

I think LAN side connection should be pretty safe, because LAN side hacks would require a backdoor or hard access to your network if you don't open any port to WAN. Use a non administrative user to do the connection. Or use other backup solution like Syncthing.

@@kekesed97 Thanks for your thoughts. I'll create a separate user for the Rsync / SSH.

@@kekesed97 backdoor is your phone and any smart device connected to your network(ip-cam, etc).

Really is!

Docker rocks. You're absolutely correct.

That's pretty sad to hear that a basic RAID wasn't able to be recovered. What is the point of running a RAID at all? Seems like wasted hard drive space when you can just use 2 NAS' and recover using your backup. Are these things RAID's known to fail like that often?

@@andrewa3216 it's not common but it can, and does happen. A lot of people think that raid is perfect but as with any technology things can and do go wrong, so it's best to be prepared

@Washing Up Liquid Raid is not a full backup solution. It will certainly reduce the likelihood of you losing data giving you some redundancy, but the raid still needs to be backed up, preferably off site. As a minimum backup your raid onto an external harddrive which you store offsite. The second option is to backup your RAID to the cloud or thirdly if the cloud becomes prohibitively expensive because you have so much data (as in my case), backup to a second raid system (again offsite preferably). Good luck with it.

It's easy if you happen to have the right conditions. Try port forwarding when your ISP uses CGNAT and you have no real IPv4 address. So far I have seen no solution to this other than buying a static IP.

@@roytreves3998 You can use a VPN to provide a public IP. Example: my FW has an OpenVPN server/client connection to a Linode instance to get around the CGNAT issue. You could also use something like a Cloudflare Argo tunnel, zero tier networking, or use a VPN service that has a dedicated IP / port option. Note your existing router must be capable of supporting these features or you will need to evaluate a replacement.

@@SgtKilgore406 Thank you very much for the informative reply! Fortunately we were able to solve the issue simply by asking our ISP to remove the NAT and give us a real dynamic IP. Unbelievably enough, they actually did. I guess because most customers don't really care about CGNAT, it doesn't hurt them to give out a few real addresses for those who actually need them. Hopefully this also helps anyone else who is encountering this issue. It never hurts to try.

@@roytreves3998 I use Starlink as my primary and a local DSL as a fallback connection. Starlink cannot supply me a public IP unless I purchase the business plan. The Linode instance solves that. I have a dedicated public IP with the local DSL provider but the down/up speeds limit its usefullness. They are rolling out fiber though and with luck will have FTTH in a year or two. Having Starlink has dramatically alleviated the need for fast internet from the local ISP so I don't mind waiting.

@@SgtKilgore406 We are also very eager to get fiber. So far mostly buildings are receiving them and we just have to wait. It sucks because we can see the fiber cables less than 20 meters from our house but they refuse to connect us at the moment. I'm wondering what kind of speeds are you getting with Starlink? Also how reliable is it? We don't have it here yet but it should arrive in the next year or two. Although hopefully we get fiber by then.

Thanks man!

on the other hand if you buy a 12x12TB NAs and you think you now have (in RAID6) 10X12 TB you are wrong again. You "only" have 10x10,91 TB. If you have a NAS Box that can not support a Volume >108TB you have another problem meaning you have about 1,x TB that you can use for a 2nd Volume

do you really need them then ? Just asking

One nice thing to do is start with 2x drives in a 4 bay and just expand later on!

@@SpaceRexWill yep

I don't know what you mean by RAID 1 to RAID 10 (don't think this is a thing). But if you are looking to just expand your volume it is pretty straight forward. When you insert the New Drives the system will detect that a unformatted drive has been connected and provide you a few options. I would Recommend going to *Storage Manager > Storage > Global Settings* and turning on *"Run RAID resync faster"* and then formatting the new Drive and/or adding it to your RAID/volume configuration.

yes, but, you will get tons (well, a lot) of msgs saying that someone is trying to enter o that port thinking its just a SSH Port. Opening ports is always a pain because some moron or some softwarescanners try to invade your nas

well, even if 100TB drives ... if they will ever exist anyway ... becomes quite cheap i would not build a 2bay nas with 2 100TB drives. I would not even build a 4bay withthem. As of this writing i guess the biggest are 20TB and even that gives me the creeps. When you learn how these drives manage to store all these bits you may get a little nervous yourself. You can not put so many disks in that 3.5´ housing

well, in my thinkng RAID is a must. I am even so "paranoid" that i use RAID 6 On a 12x12 you kinda loose 24T but 2 drives can die and your stuff is still not gone. Dont know how long it will take to rebuild a RAID 6 but i hope i dont have to find out

I would instead look at backing up to an external hard drive! That way if the file system gets corrupted you will still have a backup

This was meant for people understanding who are just starting out with a low cost system

@@SpaceRexWill Thank you for clarifying :)))

NAS are awesome, but can add to complexities that mot people just do not need

I have to agree on this one. Being a NAS user for 5 years, I wish I knew this 5 years ago. I only need to access the storage at home. The only feature I want in the NAS is to mirror hard drives (using RAID 1). I have three RAID 1 storage pool on a 8-bay QNAP NAS. The newest pair of hard drives (16TB) serves as my 3rd storage pool. The 3rd storage pool was running well for a short while until one day sometimes it can be successfully or failed to be detected by QNAP. I had to reboot my NAS whenever the 3rd storage pool couldn't be detected. Recently it couldn't been detected at all and using md_checker, only 2 RAID is found. Both upgrading and downgrading the firmware didn't solve the problem. I took one of the hard drive from the 3rd storage pool and use a tool to read the content of the hard drive on windows, it can be read correctly, and clearly it wasn't a hard drive issue. Now it comes to a point where I thought to myself that being a Windows PC user for decades, why don't I just build RAID on windows? With Windows gradually moving towards ReFS which offers more protection against file/data corruption than NTFS, it seems like a no brainer to me. Having a NAS feels convenient at first use, but over time when you hit a problem and you are not familiar on how to go about especially when your NAS warranty is over, you are pretty much on your own. Furthermore, with the same hardware specs like those found in NAS, I basically can get a regular PC with half the price or even more of a NAS. Maybe those extra features or software offerred by NAS make up for that price, but again I don't need them. Changing a faulty PC component is always easier (at least for me) than dealing with a faulty NAS. In short, if you just need a duplicate copy of your data over 2 or more hard drive, and use file sharing features on windows to share your files/folders over LAN, then RAID is the answer, you don't need NAS. If you need some of the extensive features offerred by NAS (more than just RAID), then go for a NAS.

@@jimmykvt hmmm, well , in either case it is not for people you are not interessted in diving deeper than just turning on the pc and playing with the mouse. Windows can be a pain in so many ways too that the last thing you want to have is a "software NAS" on a Windows PC . If your Mainboard supports RAID via BIOS that is something else.

@@jimmykvtWhy would i want to have lets say 3 8TB (24TB Space) Raid 1 systems on a 8Bay NAS ? You loose 24 TB on space. If you have 1 RAID5 System using 6 8TB drives (40TB Space) you only loose 8TB

Could you please elaborate on how you dealt with the CGNAT issue? We have been trying to solve this for about a year with no solution in sight and honestly it's exhausting.

Totally depends on cost at the time. I am a big fan of buying a 6/8 bay and populating have the bays to start. This way you can expand over time for much cheaper

@@SpaceRexWill hmm good to know! any ideas if Synology is going to refresh DS1821+ anytime soon?

@@TazzSmk I agree with SpaceRex. I'm a big fan of buying an 8 bay unit, purchase large drives, and then add as necessary. DS1821+ with 16TB drives is how I start, and every one of them now has 8x16TB drives.

Good to know. I have not seen this. Any chance it was moving from AFP to SMB?

@@SpaceRexWill All the users on DSM 6 use AFP but are on DS 218j, so they are not very powerful. Moved 2 centres to DS420+ on DSM 7, still on AFP and the issue started. Moved them to SMB as recommended by Synology support, and the issues are still there. Added 2 x 512 Gb SSD sticks as a cache but still no improvement. A lot of talk on the internet about an SMB cache issue.

It might be a little late but I hope this helps: when you have 2 identical drives and use them in RAID 1 or SHR-1 (which are different but with 2 drives only it’s basically the same) and one drive fails, you can simply continue using your NAS. All the features will work just like before. The next best option you have is to get a replacement drive and exchange that with the broken one in the NAS. If for some reason you want to use the working HDD in your windows pc, connecting that via SATA will not simply work. Even if it is unencrypted, you would have to use some programs to get BTRFS readable on your machine. But as mentioned above, there is no need to do that. If you really want a NAS, additionally or instead of using RAID you should still have at least one more copy of all the contents of your NAS somewhere else.

@@jayzn1931 thx, everything is clear 👍👌

So there are 2 places I have ever seen a synology get ransomeward : 1) they had the SMB port open to the internet (big no) 2) they had a computer connected to the NAS via SMB get infected, which then cryptoed the NAS

DAS = direct attached storage for example a usb drive. Does not require a video.

If you have only 2 drives SHR IS RAID1

If it were me I would 100% look at synology

Go Syn

​@SpaceRex I heard comments about synology not supporting 3rd party drives us this true

​@@Spartan_767the only strong desire not to "synology"., although I like 224+. Now still using a very slow wd ex2 for 9 years. Just slotted in toshiba n300 8tb, jbod with other wd red 4tb original Al hdd.

Not exactly sure what you are asking. Port forwarding would be setup on your router. If you have a NAS that is bridging two networks you can do that easily by setting an IP address on each port for the different network. Port 1=Network 1, Port 2=Network 2. Network settings are in Control Panel > Network. Login pages where you can change ports are on Control Panel > Login Portal, and external access settings are in Control Panel > External Access.

I do! The drives are designed to run 24/7 for years!

That’s impressive that they are still running after 8 years!

surprised no one gave you an answer yet, but yes, disks types matter. If you can afford multiple ssd, yeah, you'll definitely see faster transfer speeds. But its expensive. Even if you upgrade to the fastest HDD, for NAS storage, you'll also see a difference. Not SSD speeds, but acceptable for most applications. Old HDD and SSD can degrade over time, so performance will diminish over time, depending on usage

@@rubberonasphalt Thanks for the reply! SSD looks like overkill, so maybe upgrade to fast HDD. Any recommendations?

@@studiojege287 Seagate Ironwolf HDD are awesome. They're basically industry standard for NAS reliability

Yes so that is the process! There are a couple of things that hyperbackup does not fully restore, but for standard settings you should be fine!