SpaceX Gets $849M to Destroy the ISS // Moon Samples Land // Waves on Titan

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Fraser Cain

Fraser Cain

Күн бұрын

China returns samples from the far side of the Moon, SpaceX will be de-orbiting ISS, could you surf the methane waves on Titan, and who knows when Starliner is coming home
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00:00 Intro
00:14 Samples from the far side of the Moon
01:41 China test a reusable rocket booster
02:41 SpaceX will deorbit ISS
05:13 Map of nearby stars
06:51 Vote results
07:40 Primordial black holes and dark matter
10:11 Waves on Titan
11:51 Garbage in the Mediterranean
13:05 Starliner still at the ISS
14:08 More space news
15:07 Awesome space images
16:32 Why don't they just
Host: Fraser Cain
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Editing: Artem Pozdnyakov
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@MichaelTrites-dm9nk
@MichaelTrites-dm9nk 4 күн бұрын
I'm surprised they didn't contract Boeing to deorbit the ISS. Crashing aircraft is the one thing they know how to do.
@Kaihlik
@Kaihlik 4 күн бұрын
I assume NASA wants it done on time and on budget though.
@abumohandes4487
@abumohandes4487 4 күн бұрын
They got Musk. Best option because he's really experienced with burning stuff that wasn't designed to do so.
@MichaelTrites-dm9nk
@MichaelTrites-dm9nk 4 күн бұрын
@@abumohandes4487 fair
@NomadUniverse
@NomadUniverse 4 күн бұрын
I dont understand how someone who follows a channel like this can make such an illogical statement. 80% of aviation accidents are because of human error. There are a great deal of people alive today because of the way those planes have been designed and improved over the years. It's widely known every incident ultimately makes aviation safer. Then you consider the sheer amount of Boeing planes out there. This is due to them being among the safest and reliable and efficient aircraft around. But according to you hundreds of them should be falling out of the sky every day, but they aren't, are they?! Every aircraft manufacturer has made it's fair share of mistakes. You simply can not avoid everything in mass production. And in saying that, any aircraft from any manufacturer, could have a fatal flaw in any system at any time just waiting to happen. You dont know these things until they happen then they can be identified and fixed. Sometimes they happen in development, sometimes to until well after release. So, get wise, you know? It doesn't take much. Dont reduce yourself to a cheap dig for fake internet points.
@abumohandes4487
@abumohandes4487 4 күн бұрын
​@@NomadUniverse Manufacturing isn't a game of chance. Boeing apparently turned it into one by skipping on the quality control and silencing dissent. They are 1000% to blame for digging their own grave.
@citizen_or_civilian
@citizen_or_civilian 3 күн бұрын
The ISS has always been an icon of inspiration for me. I hope they do an 8K video fly-through of the station before deorbit occurs.
@carltonlittle2613
@carltonlittle2613 Күн бұрын
It would be cool if they sent it in the direction of the black hole. Make some interesting study one day.
@nirbhay_raghav
@nirbhay_raghav Күн бұрын
​@@carltonlittle2613you do understand that it is too far fetched right. Not just in time but in distance. IIRC the nearest blakchole, BH-1 is about 1500 ly or so.
@NeostormXLMAX
@NeostormXLMAX 20 сағат бұрын
now china is gonna be the only country with a space station
@MrT------5743
@MrT------5743 3 сағат бұрын
​@carltonlittle2613 they can't even get it to the moon. How would they ever get it to a blackhole?
@anthonyskinner3338
@anthonyskinner3338 21 минут бұрын
@@citizen_or_civilian 8k video of before during and after the fall. 3 or so cameras documenting the entire re-entry event
@NeonVisual
@NeonVisual 4 күн бұрын
I thought it would be cool to send the station off around the solar system for future space historians to visit like an old ship wreck. Something tells me it wouldn't survive a raptor burn lol
@abumohandes4487
@abumohandes4487 4 күн бұрын
Physics is an alien world to you, right?
@crowlsyong
@crowlsyong 4 күн бұрын
I appreciate the spirit of the comment. I wonder if there is a physics solution that would make it feasible. While physics is an alien world to me, I do think that it’s fun to consider how the space station might be slowly pushed into a heliocentric orbit. I wonder if anyone could join the convo and add something that could help teach me if it’s physically possible or not. Teach me!
@NeonVisual
@NeonVisual 4 күн бұрын
@@crowlsyong Starship could tow it by the trusses, but modules may snap off even with a single throttled raptor, so modules would need to first be secured to the trusses by cables or belts. There's a car flying around the solar system right now, and it will still be orbiting when Earth's oceans are boiled away.
@CrazyRFGuy
@CrazyRFGuy 4 күн бұрын
@@NeonVisual Unless it hits something first. We were having a talk about that a few weeks ago and someone sim'd its orbit and in like 80 years it might hit some thing but we have those talks with 5ths of whiskey too and I do not remember.
@richierich8555
@richierich8555 4 күн бұрын
From what I understand, it would take more fuel to put it in a permanent parking orbit than it would take to launch dozens of new ones. The rocket equation is a bitch.
@CaliforniaBushman
@CaliforniaBushman 4 күн бұрын
I get depressed about deorbiting the ISS already 😢. Seems like it's still in it's teenage years. But with wild temperature swings every 45 minutes, it's amazing it can survive this long.
@biomechanique6874
@biomechanique6874 4 күн бұрын
It's also peppered with space junk impacts + micro meteors.
@litttoe
@litttoe 4 күн бұрын
I see this as more signs of a known cosmic event coming showing we won't leave people and large objects in space during disaster.
@CaliforniaBushman
@CaliforniaBushman 4 күн бұрын
@@litttoe Crews can already scramble into a Faraday Cage type capsule. Protecting them from dangerous Solar Flares.
@SeanBZA
@SeanBZA 4 күн бұрын
@@biomechanique6874 It took nearly 100 shuttle launches to get all the parts up there, and to move it would need more than 100 starliner launches, with the first few staying as power modules, and then each getting 15 refills, to get enough fuel to raise orbit to the point it can do lunar transfer. yes you can probably do it using a few ion engines, so the fuel will have to be Xenon or Argon, to get some decent thrust, and you will need to probably quadruple the solar collector area to get the power, and it will not be habitable going through the Van Allen belts (but as a bonus it will be pretty much sterilised there, seeing as it might take 15 months to gain enough altitude to transit them), so you can probably get it into an orbit for free return, and have a 2 body orbit for it. However earth rendezvous will be harder, as it will be doing a lot more than current orbital speeds, and your spacecraft will only have very narrow launch windows to intercept it. Plus return will be so much harder, you will need to use ablative shields, as nothing currently in use will survive it more than once without damage.
@kolbyking2315
@kolbyking2315 4 күн бұрын
It's 25 y/o, which is middle age for a spacecraft. Kepler lived 9 yrs and Cassini lived 20 yrs. Hubble and Voyager will probably live 47 yrs and 56 yrs respectively.
@CR-iz1od
@CR-iz1od 4 күн бұрын
its really just 849M to deorbit the starliner. :|
@frasercain
@frasercain 4 күн бұрын
Oh, I can't believe I missed that joke. You just won the internet.
@friedhelmmunker7284
@friedhelmmunker7284 4 күн бұрын
😂 👍
@CR-iz1od
@CR-iz1od 4 күн бұрын
@@frasercain apparently a Russian satellite just tried it for Boeing
@ProjectPeakRacers
@ProjectPeakRacers 4 күн бұрын
Russia put up the iss. Joe maddox channel called out his lies.
@THX..1138
@THX..1138 4 күн бұрын
🤔...Joking aside some variant of Starliner was probably the best option to deorbit ISS. NASA choosing SpaceX now maybe be foreshadowing Starliner is finished. I mean raising ISS's orbit was a real selling point for Starliner. Raising the orbit and deorbiting are basically the same job.
@SnaketheJake87
@SnaketheJake87 4 күн бұрын
Honestly, just de-orbit the ISS with the starliner attached.
@frasercain
@frasercain 4 күн бұрын
Imagine if it's still attached in 2030. :-)
@IARRCSim
@IARRCSim 4 күн бұрын
@@frasercain that either will happen or would be the best way to keep astronauts safe. Boeing couldn't fix the Starliner on Earth or even detect these problems on Earth. Fixing it on ISS will be far more difficult. Even if they appear to fix the known problems, what unknown or undisclosed problems still lurk in it? Boeing has been so careless and deceptive lately that the lives of astronauts shouldn't depend on Boeing's claims of safety anymore.
@thesurvivalist.
@thesurvivalist. Күн бұрын
Lol!
@kieron698
@kieron698 4 күн бұрын
Watching the iss burn up in the atmosphere is going to be sick.
@fukhue8226
@fukhue8226 2 күн бұрын
What is sick is the Government gave NASA 11 Billion dollars to build the American Space Station. NASA talked all the money away. The Government gave them 11 Billion more. Still not ONE piece of hardware was built and launched. 22 Billion Dollars spent and absolutely nothing built or launched. Nobody when to Prison for theft and corruption. Then it became the INTERNATIONAL Space Station. And everybody had a dime in it!
@maxhirsch7035
@maxhirsch7035 6 сағат бұрын
It doesn't reach the level of valiant sci-fi spectacle unless someone is onboard sacrificing themself for the greater good of others as it does so...
@Stormcrow_1
@Stormcrow_1 4 күн бұрын
The question I have is, will Starliner have anyone onboard when it comes back?
@thentil
@thentil 4 күн бұрын
And if it does, will they retain all functionality by the time they get to the ground? 😬
@trevinom69
@trevinom69 4 күн бұрын
After all the trouble they've been having with it, I would personally rather wait until a Dragon capsule as available for the return trip...
@Stormcrow_1
@Stormcrow_1 4 күн бұрын
@@trevinom69 Possibly safer to walk home than use the Starliner. /jk
@timchance2002
@timchance2002 4 күн бұрын
I honestly hope NASA will greatly insure their odds of a safe return using Dragon... Let Starliner come back on Autopilot to get the rest of the test data that they need...
@abumohandes4487
@abumohandes4487 4 күн бұрын
My guess, it isn't going to come back. Just released, lowered and evaporated.
@Srfingfreak
@Srfingfreak 4 күн бұрын
If I know China - they're going to be working on scaling up that sample return for Mars ASAP. They're great at that kind of scale-up work.
@deker0954
@deker0954 4 күн бұрын
Who is really doing the work?
@oldmech619
@oldmech619 4 күн бұрын
NASA needs to contract China for the Mars sample return.
@AwardQueue
@AwardQueue 3 күн бұрын
​@@oldmech619 is impossible if the “Wolf Amendment” still exists. As planned, China will get Mars samples returned in 2028.
@deep-fried-zombie699
@deep-fried-zombie699 2 күн бұрын
@@oldmech619hahahahahahahaha hell no
@oldmech619
@oldmech619 2 күн бұрын
@@deep-fried-zombie699 Regretfully, China may be our only hope of a sample return mission. I say that in jest. The current $11B is way too much for congress. I think the original price was $2B. If we are struggling with a sample return, I don’t see any way we could ever do a human landing on Mars. A bit Sad
@smeeself
@smeeself 4 күн бұрын
Well done China. Impressive job.
@Penfolduk001
@Penfolduk001 4 күн бұрын
I'd imagine SpaceX will carve up the ISS with the secret laser death rays built into every Starlink... 🤣
@thesurvivalist.
@thesurvivalist. Күн бұрын
Starting a war, with weapons in space!
@bluesteel8376
@bluesteel8376 4 күн бұрын
It would be extremely disappointing if Starship's first use was de-orbiting the ISS. I am hoping they have it working long before then. Seems like you are anticipating years of delays.
@frasercain
@frasercain 4 күн бұрын
I'm prepared emotionally for years of delays.
@KoewlBag
@KoewlBag 4 күн бұрын
Anticipating years of delays from the company who was already supposed to be landing people on Mars by now?
@TheArgusPlexus
@TheArgusPlexus 4 күн бұрын
Nice thing about being a pessimist is if you're wrong, you get rewarded for it. If you're right, well at least you have that to carry. I don't understand the thought process of sending a starship all the way up to ISS and just not bringing at least a piece of it home for the museum. Honestly a crime against humanity tantamount to demolishing a historic site.
@ProjectPeakRacers
@ProjectPeakRacers 4 күн бұрын
NASA cannot inhabit space without russia or china. The space race is and was about low earth orbit. Nasa can't put up its own station. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qq6Uetln1s6okmg.htmlsi=vbqRiOmVCXSYWtdv
@ProjectPeakRacers
@ProjectPeakRacers 4 күн бұрын
Russia put up the ISS. You conspiracy theorists
@MarinCipollina
@MarinCipollina 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for this one, Frasier
@crp9985
@crp9985 4 күн бұрын
If SpaceX has to go get the astronauts off the ISS, wow.
@interstellarsurfer
@interstellarsurfer 4 күн бұрын
Starliner is going to get discarded like the malfunctioning doorplug that it is.
@tsbrownie
@tsbrownie 4 күн бұрын
Or push the ISS into a higher orbit and recycle the reusable materials. Save $$$ and launches.
@arnoldleaf4521
@arnoldleaf4521 4 күн бұрын
As always great stuff
@crowguy506
@crowguy506 4 күн бұрын
Satellite watching the Pacific: “Hi Grandpa, are you having a drink?”
@johnwest7993
@johnwest7993 Күн бұрын
We put a huge amount of effort into getting the ISS into orbit and assembled. I sorta like the idea of shoving it into orbit around the moon so we have a safe, equipped starting point for more exploration there.
@MrT------5743
@MrT------5743 3 сағат бұрын
That is what the deep space gateway will do.
@removechan10298
@removechan10298 2 күн бұрын
best show on yt!
@clarencehopkins7832
@clarencehopkins7832 4 күн бұрын
Excellent stuff bro
@frasercain
@frasercain 4 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@stupidburp
@stupidburp 3 күн бұрын
Salvage some modules from ISS and boost them to attach to the Lunar Gateway. If nothing else they can be used as storage closets. But they likely could also add some utility. Boosting to the moon from low earth orbit is much less fuel used than boosting from the ground.
@johnkechagais7096
@johnkechagais7096 3 күн бұрын
Move the ISS into moon orbit with starship
@MediaWML
@MediaWML 4 күн бұрын
I initially thought that the section on stars at 5:13 was a sponsored segment; "..and that's where today's sponsor can help. Introducing Starfinder 3000.." 😛
@holographicman
@holographicman 4 күн бұрын
With that intro, THATS SOME TASTY BITES!!!!
@Reulbhad
@Reulbhad 4 күн бұрын
Will starliner de-orbit before the ISS.
@ZeFroz3n0ne907
@ZeFroz3n0ne907 4 күн бұрын
Love the wildlife cam, Fraser!
@illustriouschin
@illustriouschin 4 күн бұрын
I like the idea of using Starship to deorbit ISS. It would make for some exciting imagery. Good test of the hardware and poetic as you said.
@GeneOlson-cu8ro
@GeneOlson-cu8ro 4 күн бұрын
I would assume that all the working solar arrays will be salvaged. The old labs are are showing their age, systems failing, all the parts are OLD and out of production. Deorbiting the outdated modules and the worn out solar arrays only, makes sense.
@mistaajones
@mistaajones 2 күн бұрын
how in the world do you think they would salvage them? let them aimlessly float around at 120km above earth and then try to catch them 10+ years later to assemble them (in space!) onto a new station? or should they spend 5x as much money as the solar arrays cost on building a system to safely bring them back down? makes a lot of sense if you aren't used to having any
@cavemaneca
@cavemaneca 3 күн бұрын
I still don't get the arguement of "raising the orbit is impractical because we'd have to justify still using it". Raise it high enough that we don't have to maintain it's orbit for another 100+ years, and stop maintaining the station itself? It can be dead up there. Then 50-100 years in the future maybe we'll have developed a large enough orbital economy that it can be easily moved to geostationary and turned into a museum exhibit. The big thing is to save it for posterity. So that our grandkids' grandkids can float around it on a class field trip and be amazed at the relatively simple space stations we had back in our day that were considered state of the art.
@frasercain
@frasercain 3 күн бұрын
What if it gets impacted by space debris? It would make a horrible mess for the entire region and the debris would last for hundreds of years.
@cavemaneca
@cavemaneca 3 күн бұрын
@@frasercain that's a valid question. As it is now, the ISS can be repositioned slightly if we can anticipate a potential collision. Wouldn't a parking orbit up near geostationary also mean that at least for orbital debris there's not a lot of speed anymore? So the big concern then would be primarily things we couldn't anticipate but at that point all of our orbital infrastructure has similar concerns. Either way, the implication there is ongoing costs would need to be incurred for it to stay in low earth orbit because people would need to track and avoid collisions, and have either something docked that could perform maneuvers or the station still operational, both which are expensive options. That leaves it with a "push it up a ways and cross our fingers" or pay even more to push it out to geostationary orbit. Regardless, I do think it would be a worthwhile endeavor to try and save it if Starship or similar could be used to do so at a reasonable cost. With all the useless bits of human history we seem to be good at preserving I think this is one of the more valuable things from a heritage perspective.
@kamilZ2
@kamilZ2 3 күн бұрын
ISS is 150 billions $ for nearly nothing. The only part of ISS I will miss is ASM (spectrometer of cosmic ray).
@ATDistinction
@ATDistinction 4 күн бұрын
The luna gateway looks cool and all, but rendering it with Starliner? I'm not sure the Starliner will be read by then...
@SeanChYT
@SeanChYT 4 күн бұрын
I am pretty sure SpaceX will manage the ISS de-orbit by purchasing some Starliners from Boeing. They seem like very capable spacecrafts, and SpaceX would want the very best equipment for such an important mission.
@AdrianBoyko
@AdrianBoyko 4 күн бұрын
Before de-orbiting the ISS, SpaceX should fill it up with artists and push it around the moon.
@just_archan
@just_archan 4 күн бұрын
That would be epic troll for Mizaki 😂😂😂
@TheHeavenman88
@TheHeavenman88 4 күн бұрын
Spoken like someone who doesn’t understand orbital mechanics AT all 😂😂
@alizaidanthamyeez740
@alizaidanthamyeez740 4 күн бұрын
Would be cool af if they could do that but I’m fairly sure it wouldn’t really be possible nor cost effective. But I get what you’re saying.
@edby995
@edby995 4 күн бұрын
@TheHeavenman88 Would be easier to boost it then send crew, could also justify it by more of it burning up given it would have more energy.
@BGraves
@BGraves 4 күн бұрын
​@@TheHeavenman88 spoken like someone who is less interested in enjoying a joke than telling everyone they understand orbital mechanics
@stargalacticfederation
@stargalacticfederation 4 күн бұрын
There are already a couple of capsules docked at International Space Station. Those would be a better choice to use to get those two Astronauts back Home.
@frasercain
@frasercain 4 күн бұрын
Not sure they have the right space suits for the return.
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 4 күн бұрын
Hey Fraser, do you think they could make Starliner return alone, without the astronauts? I don't know, but I think it would be safer... And they could return with a dragon, for example. Anyway, thanks for the news! 😊 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@music100vid
@music100vid 2 күн бұрын
The way I look at ISS and Hubble is: If we wanted to build an exact replacement for them today, how much would it cost compared to the cost of boosting the orbits, updating and repairing the components? It seems like a tremendous waste of original design time, build time, precious materials and energy already used to put them in orbit just to let it all burn up in the atmosphere. We seem to be carrying our unsustainable, throwaway patterns with us wherever we go, even to space.
@mtritt1296
@mtritt1296 23 сағат бұрын
Thanks!
@maybehuman4
@maybehuman4 4 күн бұрын
It may not have anything to do with "primordial" black holes specifically, but I do believe black holes as a whole are involved in the dark matter phenomenon. There is still so much we don't understand about what is happening inside. Exotic particles and crazy rule-breaking magic the universe must contain behind an event horizon.
@nroose
@nroose 3 күн бұрын
Seems like we should always say that a lot of the work on the space station is cleaning. And a lot of what they do when they are not cleaning, is just living. It's harder to do everything, and you still need to exercise, eat, sleep, bathe, etc. It's a very busy time even if you don't do much science.
@thebuccaneersden
@thebuccaneersden Күн бұрын
As sad as it is, the ISS would have to come down eventually. It's been up there since 1998! That's a major success story. And not only that, but it was done in the spirit of international collaboration, which can't always be said of other space projects. 🙄 Looking forward to China sending those moon samples to researchers and nations across the world.
@CaliforniaBushman
@CaliforniaBushman 4 күн бұрын
When I first subscribed to Astronomy & S&T Magazines in 1981, this was the news we voted on: 1. IRAS to Launch Soon! Nowadays, I can't begin to keep track of it all. I don't know how Fraiser keeps track of it all 😊.
@raybeauvais296
@raybeauvais296 3 күн бұрын
Congratulations to all the scientists and engineers who help get to the Moon and back!
@ixi-cn7uq
@ixi-cn7uq 3 күн бұрын
I'm weird, I'm more disappointed that primordial black holes might not be a thing than in ISS deorbiting
@DavidGuillen-ji6kw
@DavidGuillen-ji6kw 3 күн бұрын
Starliner needs to be abandoned; Perhaps Space X can bundle it with the International Space Station and give NASA a discount.
@vaidotasjanuszko5190
@vaidotasjanuszko5190 Күн бұрын
Hi Fraser, great channel. I have a few questions, if you could answer any of them that would be great. 1. Why can't we directly image objects in our solar system in high resolution with our current equipment without a mission like New Horizons? 2. What kind of attitude does the astronomy community have toward simulation theory? How could it explain dark matter? 3. If so many dark matter-containing galaxies appear to have very evenly distributed rotating mass and it's DM that keeps these galaxies together, does that not mean that DM interacts with objects and shouldn't we be able to detect it especially if it has has such a profound influence?
@ZeFroz3n0ne907
@ZeFroz3n0ne907 4 күн бұрын
For the Titan mission, need one of those hydro foils that you get up on step on by pumping up and down with your legs, I don't have a clue on how you would automate that or make it work, but that would be neat to see.
@chrisfleming701
@chrisfleming701 4 күн бұрын
Sure hope they get Starliner out of there before the deorbit begins. lol
@purexhavoc9777
@purexhavoc9777 Күн бұрын
the ISS is a very high mileage vehicle currently. There's just a point where maintenance will become too much and too dangerous for people. Parts have lifespans and some not so easily replaceable. Sad to see it go but unfortunately it has to happen at some point.
@PhilRounds
@PhilRounds 2 күн бұрын
I would use the old ISS as a workstation for building its replacement before disposing of it.
@markusb7488
@markusb7488 4 күн бұрын
Starship could bring most of the ISS back to Earth *intact* with a small number of flights... That'd be even more impressive.
@davidtaylor1818
@davidtaylor1818 3 күн бұрын
Could they use StarShip to bring the ISS modules home and put them in a museum?
@cybercomputerized2074
@cybercomputerized2074 4 күн бұрын
Yes!!! It is amazing how some of those nebula seem to almost appear to have shapes peering out from their gaseous forms almost like a 3D hologram or something
@ObserverOfPakleds
@ObserverOfPakleds 4 күн бұрын
The Chinese people receiving the moon return samples were dressed like chefs. Further proof that indeed, the moon is in fact made of cheese.
@joeltyler3427
@joeltyler3427 3 күн бұрын
2:41 I would have liked the starship to grab the modules from the ISS. And the deorbit them. It would have been sick to see them in the museums around the world.
@treefarm3288
@treefarm3288 3 күн бұрын
I've never seen your question page but bringing rocks from the far side of the moon was the thing of the week or month.
@nicksavage4763
@nicksavage4763 Күн бұрын
Good Report To the point without a lot of Mush✅
@musicilike69
@musicilike69 18 сағат бұрын
After many lives lost, vast amounts of resources wasted and many unplanned disassembles my Kerbals decided on a blatant copy of the Gateway station from the Alien franchise. It's really cool and has deck chairs outside on a perilously vertigo inducing platform just because it also looked cool.
@caldodge
@caldodge 4 күн бұрын
Here's my plan 1) Put docking adapter on the nose of a Falcon 9 second stage 2) Launch with Falcon Heavy to maximize onboard propellant 3) Connect to docking port on ISS 4) Start up second stage engine 5) Splashdown!
@monkeynomics8995
@monkeynomics8995 4 күн бұрын
Wouldn't work, iss is way too heavy even for starship. It has to be sectioned off. In to say 100ton cargo pieces and than a refueled starship can deorbit that or take it to the moon. But if a perigee is made to land in Pacific we could possibly move larger parts slower. Also to do all of it at once would take months to a year, then boil off comes into play for reignition burns and navigation to do iss all at once with a starship. So they could probably do it, it just depends on how safe we want to be so... Its no problem, not expensive.
@purexhavoc9777
@purexhavoc9777 Күн бұрын
@@monkeynomics8995 it actually wouldnt take much to deorbit the iss. Roughly 90 m/s change in deltav to do it safely. The issue is doing a slow gentle burn so the iss doesnt break up from the acceleration. Starship is MASSIVE. An expendable starship has a payload of roughly 250 metric tons to LEO. More than half the total mass of the ISS. Launching starship empty it would have plenty of available deltav to deorbit the ISS in 1 launch.
@tonysales3687
@tonysales3687 2 күн бұрын
Should be easy to do. Send up thrust units that can use the docking mechanism with engines that can also vector.
@wfswiggart5957
@wfswiggart5957 11 сағат бұрын
It seems unlikely that mere black holes could account for the relatively fixed rotations of visible matter in their orbits around galaxy centers that maintain their spiral arms. This rotation would depart from the rules of Newtonian physics without the gravitational influence of the invisible dark matter whose existence we've inferred from it.
@GG-yr5ix
@GG-yr5ix 3 күн бұрын
I suspect Starship is a bit overpowered for deorbit of ISS. even 1 Raptor at 50% is likely going to be too much if they want to keep ISS together until it hits atmosphere. That would be about 1/4 G which due to the strung out nature of the ISS is likely going to break bits (big bits) off.
@andrasbiro3007
@andrasbiro3007 4 күн бұрын
In 2030 SpaceX will be able to bring down the ISS in one piece. Don't forget that Starship is a small scale prototype, the real thing will be at least double diameter.
@salemsanctuaryforwaywardpe9123
@salemsanctuaryforwaywardpe9123 4 күн бұрын
I really hope you add the bear to the poll... I'm definitely picking the bear 🤣🤣 Usually I have an insanely hard time deciding which topic is my favorite... but I would 100% pick the bear this time lol
@ricmann1450
@ricmann1450 3 күн бұрын
Fraser :) Why do you never acknowledge the wonderful support you receive from highly skilled and dedicated journalists in the weekly newsletter. It strikes me not just as a misrepresentation but also profoundly ungenerous. Name them, promote them. Universe today is not a one man show. It is a community of us all thousands of people. Shared value and shared hopes for the future :) xxx
@kuingul
@kuingul 3 күн бұрын
Literally every single story in the newsletter is attributed to its author with links and everything. What are you talking about?
@frasercain
@frasercain 3 күн бұрын
I write the text in the newsletter, and then link to the writer's original story on Universe Today. I put the credit for each person with each story. And then their name is at the top of the story on Universe Today.
@Goatcha_M
@Goatcha_M 3 күн бұрын
I have a question for the Question Show. In Doctor Who the Gallifreyans force their star to become a Black Hole unnaturally in order to provide the power for unlimited Time Travel. So my question is, How could a Black Hole possibly provide more power than an active star? and just how much more power could it generate?
@teutonicknightmare
@teutonicknightmare 3 күн бұрын
Just looking at the thumbnail, imagining what it would be like if Elon just said "Just ram a Starship into it, the stainless steel ship will be fine :D"
@nonnu
@nonnu 19 сағат бұрын
Send the ISS to the moon? Sure, land it and make it a colony... that's a thought. 🤔
@jordanrochein64k
@jordanrochein64k 4 күн бұрын
SpaceX should use the money to launch several cargo Starship missions as well as Crew Dragons and/or crewed Starships, and disassemble the station the way it was built. Then they can take the modules back down from space, like the opposite of what the space shuttle did, and put the parts in museums and or sell them to collectors and businesses. They could probably do that for the cost of the contract should the starship be developed sufficiently by 2030.
@danielwhitehouse7682
@danielwhitehouse7682 3 күн бұрын
awesome
@bertpasquale5616
@bertpasquale5616 3 күн бұрын
You totally needed an avatar with the starship opening up like a James Bond film.
@markpanko7732
@markpanko7732 3 күн бұрын
It is about time for a map of the closest stars
@NicholasNerios
@NicholasNerios 3 күн бұрын
That's a good contract for SpaceX
@rangerider4288
@rangerider4288 2 күн бұрын
Sure, the ISS is half-obsolete. Though, if it just scrapped? Don't ask me to pay for another one @ 5x the cost! Keep it on for a storage depot or even a lifeboat! _Modular was supposed to mean permanent!_
@garreth629
@garreth629 2 күн бұрын
We can be reasonably confident, Starliner will come back between now and 2030. If it doesn't, Houston, we have a problem.
@frasercain
@frasercain 2 күн бұрын
It's coming back one way or another.
@SSanatobaJR
@SSanatobaJR 4 күн бұрын
If I had the money (which I most definitely don't 😢) I would buy the ISS, strip off all the outdated labs and computer equipment, add a newer control unit, an orbital construction system and boost it into a higher orbit to use it as an automated orbital construction and refueling facility. But that's just me.
@edmondthompson1523
@edmondthompson1523 4 күн бұрын
I really hope SpaceX is well along in Starship development by 2030.
@andreypopov6958
@andreypopov6958 2 күн бұрын
of the two spent stations and the future ones, it was possible to do something that was constantly in orbit
@jeremydavis2000
@jeremydavis2000 17 сағат бұрын
OK, this is a long one. The speed of light is the "speed limit" of the universe. In reference to what? If 2 objects are heading exactly 180° from each other at half of the speed of light each, are they limited? Which one is experiencing time dilation? They are going the same speed, so is time running the same speed for them? What about something at the central location between them? Since time is relative and everything in the universe is moving at different speeds, time is different for everything in the universe. Stars at the edge of the universe are moving nearly the speed of light away from us. Compared to our time, is their time dilated to near a stand still compared to ours?
@rickrutledge9363
@rickrutledge9363 3 күн бұрын
Can't a space program send old space junk on a trajectory to the sun?
@gareth5000
@gareth5000 Күн бұрын
How about a batch of Ion thrusters? It would make a great test vehicle.
@faolitaruna
@faolitaruna 4 күн бұрын
Which proposed space station is your favourite? Mine is Orbital Reef.
@monkeynomics8995
@monkeynomics8995 4 күн бұрын
One of those crazy Isaac Arthur ones like gateway space port s my fav
@Trahloc
@Trahloc 3 күн бұрын
It would have been so simple to sell it to the private industry. Costs 800m to deorbit it. Offer for 1b minimum and then here is the secret ... don't spend the money. It's reserved to pay for the deorbit of the ISS if the company can't maintain it.
@gronkomatic
@gronkomatic 3 күн бұрын
13:34 freeze frame in the window of the capsule. I'm not saying it's aliens, but that's definitely a battle with aliens. 🤨😆
@SMunro
@SMunro 3 күн бұрын
Push the ISS to Mercury and land it on the Dark side of Mercury. Leave it there as an Artefact.
@PerilousPaddy
@PerilousPaddy 4 күн бұрын
I wish that they could move it to a higher permanent orbit for posterity or proper scrapping safely
@PerilousPaddy
@PerilousPaddy 4 күн бұрын
I hate that they just burn stuff up during reentry or throw it into the ocean, hell I even detest all the stuff that gets thrown away during lift off like all the SLS stuff just to get a tiny module into lunar orbit, what happens to all the rest... It just ends up being tracked as more space junk, something needs to be done, someone needs to go up there and collect all the scrap and recycle it into useful things.
@peterprice2048
@peterprice2048 3 күн бұрын
According to Musk on Tim Dodd's video, starship would be harder to dock with a station and easier to dock with itself. Starlink ship.
@rh906
@rh906 21 сағат бұрын
Considering they seem to be the only functional space company, makes sense.
@totally_not_the_fbi_i_promise
@totally_not_the_fbi_i_promise 3 күн бұрын
I'm watching them opening that capsule with no PPE and I can't help but hear The Walking Dead theme song playing in my head.
@nirbhay_raghav
@nirbhay_raghav Күн бұрын
Hey Fraser, a question for the next QNA. I am seeing a lot of slap test that SpaceX is performing with its chopsticks. Early on SpaceX wanted to make all of its rockets with carbon fibre tanks and all. But abandoned it for a more speedy prototype approach. Can't they do that with the chopsticks? Since it is not part of the rocket and does not have a lot of iterations. Would probably save them some time during reinspection. What do you think?
@jdfmfb03
@jdfmfb03 3 күн бұрын
The new Space Race!!
@johndoepker7126
@johndoepker7126 4 күн бұрын
I think a couple of outmoded cargo dragons would be the best least cost option.....🤔
@webchimp
@webchimp 4 күн бұрын
Problem is to control how you change the orbit you need a craft with thrusters that fire backwards, like the progress which was used to raise the ISS orbit.. Dragon would have to be retrofitted with rear thrusters/engines.
@johndoepker7126
@johndoepker7126 4 күн бұрын
@@webchimp I also found out that dragons wouldn't have enough delta v to move it in a timely manner to deorbit safely. Something like 10+ minutes like progress was able to do.
@Shanghaimartin
@Shanghaimartin 3 күн бұрын
Chang'e 6 didn't take a selfie of itself. The rover took a picture. I fecking hate this new definition of selfie to mean ALL PHOTOS !!!
@frasercain
@frasercain 3 күн бұрын
It carried a rover and deployed it so it could get a selfie.
@SumBrennus
@SumBrennus 4 күн бұрын
Interesting fact: A friend asked me at the bar one one night if it would be possible to move the space station to lunar orbit. I did LITERAL COCKTAIL NAPKIN MATH and with the help of Wikipedia for some basic stats on Saturn V rockets I calculated it would take roughly 150 FULLY FUELED LAUNCH WEIGHT Saturn V's to do the job. It cost about as much as Earth's current GDP. Not the USA. THE WHOLE PLANET. EDIT: I remember the late 1990s when NASA was partnering with Russians on Mir. Mir was so old by then it had become a literal death trap. The Russians nearly lost whole crews twice to on board fires and docking accidents. NASA got cold feet and said it was too dangerous for them.
@frasercain
@frasercain 4 күн бұрын
I did the math today, I got $150 billion or so
@SumBrennus
@SumBrennus 4 күн бұрын
@@frasercain You know, I bet the bit I got wrong was the inflation calculation on the launch costs
@dustman96
@dustman96 4 күн бұрын
Dragon is going to have to rescue the astronauts from the space station. That will be incredibly embarrassing.
@stupidburp
@stupidburp 3 күн бұрын
Or they modify Dream Chaser for a manned mission.
@stephanemonnier8987
@stephanemonnier8987 9 сағат бұрын
If the ISS is going to be destroyed. Wouldn't it make sense to integrate AI/ robot and send it around the solar system. Could do science for as long as it stays functional.
@PeterWetherill
@PeterWetherill 3 күн бұрын
I am so old I remember when Skylab was de orbited!
@gareth5000
@gareth5000 Күн бұрын
I remember Gemini. And I heard Sputnik on a ham radio:)
@Kittyinshadows
@Kittyinshadows 3 күн бұрын
Question- when we're looking at the sky can we tell if an object is seen through a gravitational lens? If so, how?
@wanderingfool6312
@wanderingfool6312 3 күн бұрын
Recent studies have suggested aluminium particulates left behind by deorbiting satellites could activate processes which harm the ozone layer? Has that potential deleterious effect been modelled regarding deorbiting the ISS?
@sepheroth885
@sepheroth885 3 күн бұрын
Nice story bro
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