I appreciate the response and this is exactly what I was aiming for. Doing this review I realized that even one this long could have been 2-3 times longer if I were to really go in depth on everything. I quickly saw just how much many reviews (including this one) were lacking, and gave me new ideas for more in the future. 👍

Great to hear. Working on more stuff. Slowboat to china (puns intended)

I hope it was useful for you. Thanks!

I believe they've updated a lot of stuff with the bike for the 2021 model. I think the gear shifter was addressed too. If not mentioned in the video, its a good reminder about 1st year models from ANY manufacturer. I mean, who wants to go buy a 2021 Land Rover Defender and think it'll be trouble free? 🤣

Yup, there is a connection. I'm working on some more TSE Riding footage and will post that up.

John LaMarsh using my wifes computer,

Twice as much? in Canada 6899 vs 8299 Yamaha yz250. 1400 dollars is 21% more for a real Yamaha engine 249cc vs a chinese knock-off 223cc Yamaha engine. Vs a KTM or Husky yes, double price. But who buys those but fan boys anyway?

I have had a bunch of WR250Fs, I prefer the older steel frame bikes for woods riding. The aluminum bikes feel like YZs with headlights.

@@J0mama1 is that bad?? YZ's we're always pretty fair...

@@billallen4793 YZs are awesome...on a track. WRs should be better in the woods, more torque, slower revving, in my humble opinion. To be fair I had a CR250 for a woods bike for a while, and now I ride a WR200. Lol

@@J0mama1 I'm ALMOST 50yrs old and became disabled in September 03 so I've been out of the loop for a while... is the wr a 4stroke? I grew up riding big bore smokers and XR's. The first modern 450 I rode was a neighbor who's cousin raced 450 flattrack in 05 or 06 and it surprised the crap out of me. And now yami spins their 450 15000rpm..... gobsmacked..... back in the day had a mt250 honda as a trail bike, and a Elsinor cr125m for jumps it was like jumping a schoolbus in comparison....lol.. I was poor boy racing dinosaur vintage stuff and would win fairly often because I was the only one dumb enough to double jump a dual shock spring bike..... oohhhh the memories ... Have you seen the 2stroke gpx tse250r it's a Chinese kdx200 kind of powerful bike that makes 45ish hp with a thick useable midrange, and electric start. I live in a small town 2.5hrs away from any town with more than 20 stoplights. I've read some GREAT thing's about it, and would love to own/ride one. I can't stand for long or walk very far but I'm wanting too have a light little bike to putt around town on with a future grandchild that is on the way possibly, it's early in the pregnancy. I still have 7 bike's laying around from my youth and my three kid's learned to ride on a 78ish xr80 I still own for grandkids to learn on and a light enduro would be great to have. And 4999.00 brand new doesn't sound bad either. 1500 for a new engine and trans is fair also a great price if you have a catastrophic failure or crash. Apparently the engine is an older W something Yamaha engine....from Wyoming USA 🔫🤠🇺🇸p.s stay safe and healthy everybody GOD BLESS OUR COUNTRY

@@billallen4793 I'm turning 48 next and was diagnosed with a spinal condition that will eventually render me immobile in all likelihood, so I get where you're coming from. I'm in pretty good shape right now but that will more than likely be short lived. Se Lavi. To your question, Yamaha made WRs (wide range) in both 2 and 4 stroke. WRFs are 4 strokes. I'm racing a hare scramble on Sunday on my 1992 WR200 2 stroke, fantastic bike. The GPX is base lose on it, but mostly on the DT230 Lanza, never sold in the US...I don't think. The problem with that is the motor is a boat anchor, very heavy and low in the frame. GPX also makes an FSE 250 air cooled 4 stroke that I heard is just as good for us old guys on the trails, it's based on a Honda of some sort. If your looking for a little more pep look into the GPX FSE300 or the all new KLX300, they are both very inexpensive. God Bless Bill, hope to run into you on the trail some day.

I'd love to do further reviews on the other GPX bikes. Their community is vast and very helpful if any issues arise. It does seem they've ironed out some early issues on any of their bikes, which is great to see. Thankfully my 350exc is doing everything I could ask of it, but maybe one day I can convince myself to add another GPX. Quite possibly one of their soon to be released e-bikes for the yutes. 👍

There is one that I sum up. 👍

For sure. Despite as many things I tried to note\documents, I figured I'd miss some details. Yes, I got the bike with low hours on it ~24. Which from my personal experience is just about where everything on a bike is starting to break in. The bike was originally purchased new in 2018 as soon as it was released (May I believe?). I bought it in early July. I owned it from July 2018 through November 2019. I'll add that the guy I got it from has since gone through 2 more TSE's, and had put a combined ~300 hours between those 2 and has\had a couple other GPX bikes and is looking at more. The 3 main issues I had were Fork Leg, Brakes, and Shift Shaft. I'll address them one by one. Fork Leg - I first noticed an issue with the left fork leg leaking. Nothing that I felt was a major issue, as its a dirtbike. It happens. I want to say it happened ~40-50 hours of run time? I was not concerned about it as I consider fork seals a wear item. The problem I had though was that the fork leg internals disassembled. In all my years of riding, I'd never seen this happened, so yes....it was a bit of a shock to me, and gave ME some personal concerns with regards to the bike. The internal disassembling also is what I believe was the root cause of the fork seal failing as I believe that under full extension (front wheel off ground), the left fork leg could hyper-extend. That's my SWAG and personal opinion. I will note as well that the bushings still looked to be in good condition. Also, as noted in the Video....Gary at GPX went above and beyond with replacing my fork leg for me. Yes, I knew the bike was not new, however as I had relayed, in all my years of riding, I had NEVER seen a fork disassemble like this from regular use. I was not expecting free fork seals or anything of that sort. Gary shipped me a replacement fork leg, and requested that I reassemble the old one and ship it back to him. I did as requested. GPX has also since changed fork suppliers (as noted in video), so maybe this was one other reason, I don't know. Brakes - In the race I competed in (linked in description), that was October of 2018 (~2 months of owning) was when I had my major brake issues. This was around similar run time ~40-50 hours? In the race, I lost all of my rear brake. Prior to this, the rear brake never felt as solid as prior bikes I've owned and ridden. Generally I can quick stab of brake and lock the rear. Mine was never that solid. I had attempted bleeding it multiple times, and had (wrongly) assumed it was my own doing, related to the hydraulic brake switch I installed on the rear brake. Upon disassembly, I had found the torn\failed seals. During the race, I had intermittent front brake issues. Internal seals on the master cylinder didn't appear to be problematic, and most my issues went away with additional bleeding & fresh fluid in the system. That noted, the front brake was still (for me) never as solid as other bikes. Not to say it was bad, but not as solid as I was used to. Shift Shaft - This happened again, during the first race I did on the bike. I've gone through the video to see if there was a point that I caused this in a crash, as it happened relatively early on. There is one point where I low side on the trail, however I believe I was in a right hand turn, though I could be mistaken (haven't re-watched footage). Whether it was a low side, or my mashing the shift lever too hastily mid-race....its relatively irrelevant. Mine failed, as did others throughout the world. When I analyzed the shift shaft, my opinion was that something was not 100% right on the construction of the unit. Gary at GPX shipped me a replacement one for $15. The replacement unit had shifted well for me, though as I noted in the video, it never felt as smooth as other shifters I'm used to. If you compare shift shaft\pawl & shift star assemblies of the TSE unit compared to newer style ones, you'll understand just why the OEM's have moved on from the older style setup. I will add that when I got the replacement fork leg from GPX, they also shipped me a replacement subframe part. I did NOT ask for this. I assumed I broke mine in a crash or something, and would NOT expect GPX to replace this. I was willing to pay for the item, but was not going to replace it, as I felt it was a relative non-issue. If I look at my time with the bike, I put ~50-60 hours on it. I couldn't tell mileage as I'd abandoned the OEM Speedo early on, as it did not function correctly. Hope this clears up some of your questions. If you have any others, feel free to ask.

~200# 150 2T.....You sound like a Yamaha fan. Get a YZ125X and reach out to Eric Gorr for a 144 kit. No e-start, but otherwise amazing machine. I raced an old steel framed YZ144 awhile back. VERY VERY fun!

It's one of those tough trade-offs. If someones comfortable (like it sounds you are) with snagging something older\used, its a great option. Those old bikes weren't legends for no reason. For that kinda price too, really hard to pass up. Hope you enjoy your new ripper!!!

I want to say mid 40s, but it will depend a bit on carb setup and how aggressive you are in the throttle. I would guess worst case mid to upper 30s is a safe mpg to use.

I'd likely go with GPX over those other 2 brands. GPX seems committed to their brand, and continual bike updates. I have no clue what those others are up to.

Plastics are compatible with Husqvarna. The OEM headlight though is a Yamaha WR450F replica, and I believe the original front fender was a Honda CRF unit. Swap both those to the Husky ones, and not only does it look and fit better, but you also lose a little weight with ditching the excess steel brackets they used to make that setup fit. The 2021 or whatever models might be different?

No problems here, video plays with audio the entire time for me.

What pushed you to selling and going to the Honda? What kind of riding were you doing with yours?

I'd say check out the GPX Facebook page and ask there. A lot of riders around the world who can likely help you out on this.

I believe there is a Kickstarter kit you can buy for it. These start very easily though and is a very robust setup. You can basically look at the bike funny and it'll want to fire to life. 👍

The 2021s have both. Also they have the better pipe, better cdi, and tons of billet components. Good luck trying to find one; they are all sold out.

@@SBMoto thats cool but chinese bikes usually derrive their spark fron the battery, so if your battery dies youre toast. And i think it'd be way better if it jjst came with a lickstarter. Overall a very well done bike though and i wouldnt mind having one

Not sure who initially coined it, but its spot on.

Yup, this is an EPA thing. Maybe there are some aftermarket ones now? There was some confusion when these bikes were first released that GPX was going to sell spark arrestors which never materialized. Which circles back to the EPA thing. Maybe someone USFS approved ones now?

Least expensive way is to use a $1 sink strainer

Yup, and adds $ to the price.

Most any national forest or state lands in the US require the use of a spark arrestor. I understand something is in the works from someone for these bikes. 👍

@@SBMoto I have never had a ranger look at my bike. It is quiet. Thats what they are looking for.

Not too mention arresting sparks is actually very important. Insane out of control forest fires have become the norm..

They've since made some major updates for the 2021 model, so many of these concerns may have been addressed. I've opted to go back to the Orange Empire instead......

@@SBMoto I'm not hardcore, I toodle about on a 2020 Crf250f. I have a chinese tao tao 140cc pitbike to play on and loan to others who are bikeless. It cost 860 bucks new in crate. Don't see why I would pay more for chinese GPX stuff than I did for my Honda. 800$ chinese bike ok, 6000$ chinese bike no way. (CDN$ funds).

I'll see what I can do. 🙌

Your critique of the review was pointless. This bike sells for 1200 CDN dollars less than a real properly engineered Yamaha YZ250 2 stroke. But this is only 50% of the bike the Yamaha is. Can't afford/justify Husqvarna? Buy Yamaha. Can't afford/justify YZ250? Buy this thing but don't kid yourself about what it is. This dude spent an hour of his time to inform you with real details of deficiencies found. If you prefer vague comments, loud rock music as guys do ride bys and blow smoke up your ass "reviews", well, youtube is full of such. Please don't dissuade content makers who are providing real information to those of us who want to educate ourselves and become informed.

His mannerisms and technical knowledge and overall lack of motocross ego is exactly why I believe him. I believe this is an honest review. This is not marketing wank or some guy telling you he knows everything. Just a long winded honest review. Exactly what I wanted to see about this bike which has very little honest info out there on the internet forums ect. China will no doubt overtake Japanese manufacturing in power sports someday. We all want to know if that day is now. That's why we clicked on a 55 min long review video. Comparing it to euro bikes? That's silly. Euro bikes arent even in the same ballpark price range. So no one cares about that.