How are they obviously different countries? They have the same currency, they have the same capital, only Israel have a legitimate army, only Israel issues a passport, only Israel is a member of the UN, only israel has elections, Palestine has two different governments that hate each other, the Palestinian government that has international recognition is pretty much subordinate to Israel, they have no functioning border. Imo there clearly isn't a palestinian state currently. There probably should but there isn't

The main reason to support the existence of a Palestinian state is preservation of Palestinian identity and the ability for them to advocate for themselves on the international stage. Whether we agree with their governance or not is a separate question from whether or not they have the right to exist as a national polity. Personally I think there needs to be a one state solution, a sort of "state within a state" model that resembles tribal governance in the US.

Absolutely true

​@@yoavboaz1078 Israel doesn't have full control over west bank and Gaza as of right now so they're effectively different countries

@@JJLarge By your logic Brazil has a lot of countries inside of it, technically speaking.

To be honest, out of all the channels I know and watch, this is the most unbiased and apolitical one.

Well we know his views on the french

@@Ralzone yup. absolutely agree too. the fact that this channel's regular viewer base is so tiny though just shows that most people are more interested in sowing division and taking sides than anything else. sad.

Yay! Now we just wait til July and get Sinai out and FREE PALESTINE

He is definitely biased by his experience as a UK national, I definitely sense it when he speaks about the falklands war for example

no controvershy? 🥺

Lame

It annoys me on every map

A while back America made a deal, they will recognise it as Moroccan in exchange for Morocco recognising Israel

@@thesenate1844 Thanks for elaborating, I had forgotten that detail entirely. Funny that I get this answer from "The Senate"... Known to do similar shady deals in the Star Wars universe, haha.

A very bad deal all things considered, on paper there were no bilateral relations but in reality they existed and were temporarily cut off in 1995. Mauritania had the same policy and many other Muslim nations in west Africa

Nobody cares about western Sahara pretty much Most of the entire world neither recognizes it as Moroccan or sahrawi The only exceptions is that like 20 countries recognize western Sahara (it used to be like 50) And 2 nations recognize it as Moroccan(the us and Israel)

no they dont?

​@@TheRealMikeyXD_UKstuck in delusions

Truth ^

Everybody always forgets about the Kurds

That's why I had to immediately correct to "one of the biggest" haha

you don't exist

also gypsies. we dont really have a single ethno-state

Me too I feel like somaliland is more in the “big 3” then some of the other ones it literally has a better more functional and democratic government than its “home country”

its the only way forward at this point

The Palestinians aren't interested in a 2 state solution. They'd rather have no country at all than co-exist with Israel. That's why they've rejected every offer of a country given to them thus far.

Norweigian foreign minister supports hamas…

@@kongkiiing Where?

@@tiglishnobody8750 through policy. But he is also pictured in a pro hamas march in Norway holding a «f israel, f capitalism, f nato» sign. This guy has also invited the taliban twice to Norway, so his stand on islamism is pretty clear

@@kongkiiing Uh Idk as Norway tries to meditator with the Taliban not because they stand for Islamism but because they try alternative It didn't work though

Take iraq and the iraqi Kurdistan region as an example, theyre both different governments but operate under one state

basada ultra

Good, viva la patria carajo

milei is not a real person

@@lurji so truth

pointland

@@echardtschloeder5178 I’m part Catalan 🤣 & a free independent Catalonia is the greatest wish for Catalans…just as a free independent Palestine 🇵🇸 is the greatest wish for Palestinians. Decentralize power, worldwide! and always fight for the underdog

@@anarchobuddhist Quan algú diu que és _"part"_ català, normalment només vol dir que són nord-americans enganyats que es creuen en part d'algun lloc només perquè hi va néixer un besavi. El meu avi va néixer i es va criar als Països Baixos, però jo no sóc en part holandès, sóc noruec.

You’re not part Catalan, you’re an American.

@@danskrr Watch out, I just said the same thing and now it seems my comment is deleted. (Altough I said it in Catalan)

Even though last time I checked Israel wasn’t the one that started the war nor was it the US.

By Zios do you mean Zionist?

@@L0KUST1 yes

There will be peace when the US leaves

@@Hikoplouyr huh surprisingly simple yet effective scenario. would have never thought lf that but i like the idea

Well, some time in the future humanity eventually will get rid of capitalism, just as we got rid of feudalism earlier. And most definitely this would be a major step to unite all of the world and end all or almost all wars.

and catalonia

Catalona also and Scotland.

As a Catalan, this won’t happen. That would be a justification to get our own independence.

@@motosgamer catalonia will be free, as will many regions of spain. might i ask why you want independence now? is it possibly that you feel spain is too unstable politically at this point, something like somaliland with somalia?

​@@adamelghalmi9771From the River to the Sea Catalonia will be free (lmao)

Silence, commie

Antisemitists using Palestine as an excuse to justify their hate for Jews:

They are currently doing the holocaust right now but instead of gas its with missiles and guns

Yeah, very sad

Shaped shifter aliens don't like peace

Actually Israel has been a place of conflict and turmoil for most of the past 4000 years. It's arguably always been the hotspot of violence. And I studied both history and philosophy and I can't think of a single philosopher from Israel, so I don't know where you got that idea from. Where on earth did you make up all that stuff? Have you never opened a history book?

Nah, muslim countrys don't recognise israel because it's an apartheid state

@@oussamaalaoui9121 This is bullshit: you know that Israel has, for example, Arab members of parliament? Somehow only Muslim countries claim Israel is an apartheid state. Not to mention that most of these countries are not beacons of human rights themselves: e.g. citizens of Saudi Arabia must be Muslim, non-Muslims are forbidden from entering Makkah, Kuwait had no qualms expelling hundreds of thousands of Palestinians, and Gulf countries like OAE have 90% of the populations as non-citizen workers without any rights.

The ROC is a SAR of the PRC 🤣 deal with it!

​@@anarchobuddhist you must not like reality. Sorry truth offends you but Taiwan is an independant state😂 other countries reconition is irrelvant they have their own government.

or the state of Cyprus's situation or east Turkmenistan or Tibet or West Sahara. for the world it's always only Palestine BS

@@user-oy2zg3bt6n The West literally created the situation in Israel in one of their colonial experiments, so it's not strange they feel more responsibility for that conflict than for other conflicts. It's not like people in Tibet or West Sahara gives a crap about Europeans.

@@Nabium dude Israel isn't a colony, funny thing now days more Jews in Israel descend from the middle east and north Africa rather then Europe. besides i could go for a while on how every state in the middle east and north Africa that isn't in the Arabian peninsula and much of modern Iran have been colonized by none Europeans, Palestine included. so don't start me.

Either that or they are just doing the exact opposite to what south korea does 😂😂petty

north Korea recognized Palestine because it's communist. aka they hate the US and has bias against the people who's stereotype is "money hungry elites controlling all big things" (which the world attaches to Jews) now imagine a capitalist nation that's supported by the US and has the stereotype of "controlling world wealth and politics of other nations". pretty much a commie's worst nightmare am i right? this is why Cuba is against Israel, same with Venezuela, the many western leftists like the US's DNC and the UK's labor, Columbia, Nicaragua, CCP before it's major shift, Lula's Brazil and the list can go on. Edit: it's no wonder that Ireland and Spain, two of the most left winged & suicidal nations in Europe, doing stuff that even their own people don't want like dumb immigration policies. if you ever heard the term known as the "red green alliance" (alliance between the Islamists "Green" and communists "red" against the west) you would realize this is also not new, since 1949 no communist nation really had good relations with Israel and all of them been massively unfriendly. nothing to do with "Palestinian oppression" or "technologically advanced enemies"

What, anyways make oiled up twerking competion

Maybe Israel is too connected with America

It’s actually because the north has a lot of sympathy for the Palestinians, during the Korean war, in the first two weeks, American bombing campaigns pretty much flattened the entirety of the north. Furthermore, they are culturally scarred by the brutality of the earlier Japanese occupation during WW2. They see the same things happen all the time in Palestine, and so they have a lot of sympathy, and therefore recognise the state of Palestine. One of the few things they do in the international stage I might add.

Don’t forget about Basque, and Galicia as well

Spaniard here, things are pretty chill right now. The independence movement still exists but it's not a majority neither in Catalonia nor Basque Country. Now it's more like a movement towards greater self-government, not actual independence

They would be shooting themselves on the foot then because they are one of the most pro-Palestine regions in Spain😂

no

​@@gfyphg9871 good

exactly

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​@@ImpossiblegendW

Not the W you think it is. It means nothing. People on the ground are still not in a sovereign state

They do not have a government

Apparently learning how to spell is too hard for you.

America

They do. Catalonia is recognized as an integral part of Spain and Catalan is an official language. They don't recognize their independence because there is simply no reason to. Majority of Catalans don't want independence.

Ireland actually does recognise catalonia

@@elianes5505sure buddy keep telling that to yourself

​@@generalpierogi7781 It's literally true. Keep telling youself the opposite.

@@elianes5505 don’t forget your meds

Spain do neither bomb hospitals nor kill thousands of children and women in reprisal for the terrorist attack of hamas

Agreed!!! but everyone should, obviously not just Israel because that would simply come off petty and childish which to be fair would probably be a compliment to netanyahu in comparison to genocidal psychopath. Palestine Catalonia basque country Kurdistan western Sahara Taiwan West Papua Somaliland and many more all deserve independence!! Obviously it's harder in some places than others but in general there just aren't enough countries right now. There are way too many arbitrarily drawn lines (particularly in countries that were colonised) and completely distinct culture's forced into larger countries around the world right now and it just isn't right. The world would be such a better place if these places got their independence. Just look how much warmer the relations between Ireland and the UK have gotten since our independence, we even have the right to live work and travel visa free between the two countries just as Ireland has with the rest of the EU and it makes the quality of life so so so much better and people here are happier and richer too. Who knows in a century from now maybe these places will get to enjoy the same things with their neighbours too if things go well and if not at least they have the right to tell each other to stay out of their particular country rather than all this unnecessary death. Most of the time the countries subduing and forcing places to stay a part of their country do it solely for monetary purposes or/and they're corrupt and power hungry. New Caledonia is a great example that springs to my mind for some reason. It really is a tragedy that people are so brainwashed or uninformed on these kinds of issues these days.

What a stupid comparison. Ireland was colonized by the English, the English starved to death Irish people, literally. Catalonia was never forced into Spain, it was never colonized or subjugated. Spain itself is a product of the union between Castilla and Catalonia. There’s no Spain without Catalonia. Regarding the Palestine thing, Israel literally maintains Palestine alive, they give them water, food, energy. Palestine can’t survive without the help of Israel, because for decades Palestine focused on destroying Israel instead of developing their own country. Israel is even the home of millions of Arabs and Muslims, because who wouldn’t prefer to live in Israel? A country with opportunities, that respects every ethnicity, religion, gender and sexual orientation? I mean, if I had to choose, I definitely choose Israel, I’d literally be sentenced to death in pretty much every other middle eastern country just for existing as I do.

Yes

@@btrntsqsh lol

It’s not just religious reasons, Jews are also a nation, and an ethnicity. Even before Israel came to exist. They could be compared to gypsies. Borderless nations. They didn’t just want to move to an other country again and become a new hated minority, just how it happened time after time everywhere they went. They didn’t choose Israel because of spirituality, they chose it because of history. Their culture, their identity, roots in that region of the world. They are a Semitic group, with a Semitic language. Jewish people were already living where Israel stands now, before they created the state. Why are the Muslims more entitled than the Jews to have a state of their own on that region? Israel won the war (well multiple wars actually, and none of them started by themselves) and people still can’t accept that the land belongs to the state of Israel, that it’s a multicultural, multiethnic and multi-religious country, that accepts everyone regardless of who they are. People often claim Israel must cease to exist because they are colonizers, well if they are colonizers, what about the USA? Brazil? Argentina? Chile? Should all those states cease to exist too? Should we all give the land back to the indigenous people? If anything, Israel has a much better claim to the territory of Israel, than any of the countries in the americas have over their own territories.

@@agme8045 my point is muslims have historicly held the land longer than the jews did, at some point its better to cut the losses rather than open an old wound that you werent even a part of. Also, jews werent a hated minority after ww2 at all, but this destruction of gaza is only causing this hatred wich i also see as unjustified since jews and israelis are two different things. To be fair, anti-semitism is not something that should be illegal as its basicly just like disliking any other religion. Disrespecting things like sex, race or handicaps i understand to be wrong, but i never put religion in that category since religion is a choice, things like sex, race and chronic illnesses arent. Also, muslims did allow jews to practice and stay within the region for years, but all ot takes is for the jewish population to become a majority in the region for them to starts occupying more and more land and take it from the arabs. Thats where the bad stigma of jews come in, the stigma of jews being untrustable and i hope netenyahu sees that whats hes doing only further makes people see jews as a less peaceful folk but more as an ambitious people of supremacy..

@@retchie7355 jews never stopped being a hated minority, antisemitism (which you seem to think it’s ok for some f-ed up reason) has never fully disappeared, sure, there isn’t a government actively killing Jewish people in mass (except for the terrorist government of Palestine ofc) but the amount of antisemitism around even nowadays is huge. The amount of harmful stereotypes, “jokes”, “conspiracy theories” that many, many people believe to be true, are all part of antisemitism, and are in many ways mainstream ideas accepted by huge groups of people (remember Kanye West?) You can’t seem to understand “Jewish people” aren’t like Christians or Muslims. Antisemitism isn’t just hating Judaism as a religion, it’s hating Jewish people as group of ethnically and culturally related people. I’m an atheist, I “dislike” religion in general. That doesn’t mean I’m antisemitic, or that I hate Jewish people. Also, your logic is pretty weird. Disrespecting choices is fine? I don’t see gender as something natural, but as a person’s choice on how to express their identity, does that mean I can hate or disrespect people based on their gender identity? There’s (a lot of) people who think sexual orientation is a choice and that people choose to be gay, does that mean they can disrespect me based on my sexual orientation? Lastly, if you are one of those people who believe different human races exist, then being Jewish is considered to be a person’s race. Which would automatically, by your logic, make antisemitism something wrong.

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@retchie7355so so so many things that are just blatantly historically inaccurate in this comment. First, not going to get into the whole “who has claims over the region” because personally I find it to be a useless endeavor. Both groups have historical claims going back thousands of years and the impact is the same, there’s no point in discussing whose is “more legitimate”. Saying that Jews weren’t a hated minority after ww2 is actually historical revisionism, there’s a reason why the nazis were able to accomplish so much and it’s because they sowed seeds of hatred that had already been there for thousands of years, and hell Jews are still a hated minority today, even nearly a hundred years after the Holocaust. Your point on anti-semitism is uneducated, judaism is largely an ethnoreligion, and also a world minority religion. Jews make up less than 3% of the US population (highest Jewish population in the world besides Israel btw) and yet they are 60% religious hate crimes in the country. Being ethnically jewish is not a choice, being religiously jewish is, and Jews have been persecuted ethnically for thousands of years. Saying Muslims allowed Jews to practice their religions in the region is also not exactly very helpful given that they were eventually forcefully expelled from the countries in waves, whose families makes up a significant portion of the population of Israel. Now I don’t agree with the extremes of Israel’s military actions but please keep informed about the contexts on both sides.

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@@FlopFan69for you lmao

Lets have a oiled up twerking competion

you've always been a disappointment.

Catalonia just hold an election and the pro-Indepence faction lost. Why recognise a country which doesn't even consider itself to be independent?

no

Why?

@@janitoalevic yes

@@JmKrokY because Spain loves recognizing places that’s shouldn’t be recognized

Not even half the Catalans have voted for it in the last elections

I think it’s funny how that same argument applies to Argentina and the Malvinas islands. The UK invaded the islands around 1830, expelling all the island inhabitants, and then proceeded to send British nationals there, who are the same 2k people who now vote for the islands to remain under British control.

Jidf agent

False. Most Palestinans right now have descendants that go back to the kingdom of Isrel or even before. Their ancestors were likely jews or christans who converted to islam to pay less taxes in the muslim Caliphates

they already did a referendum both, the next will be Bougainville

Not gonna happen

@@rb98769 Why? If Kosovo can by breaking all international law and entire west admiting it why should not others? If there is freedom they should if they want.

@@cte4dota I'm not saying it should or shouldn't happen, I'm just saying it's extremely unlikely to happen.

The Scottish pro independence party is about to be decimated...

N Palestine is owned by Israel

I'm confused why people think there's a genocide happening when there have been multiple cease fires to allow civilians to evacuate. I'm not saying you're wrong but I genuinely want to understand your perspective.

@@Matthew-.- Israel told Palestinians to go south to Rafah, and then bombed Rafah. They’re also stopping/blowing up aide convoys and deliberately targeting civilian targets

@@rocketrakkor9424 When it comes to Rafah they were initially told to move south but as the war progressed it became obvious it would go to Rafah and the IDF had been working to evacuate them from there as well before the bombs fell. When it comes to the targeting civilian targets thing I believe you're referring to the bombing hospitals thing but that whole situation is a little misleading because Hamas was using them as bases. You can see on the ground footage from channels like Funker530 where Hamas is shooting from hospital windows and there's videos of the inside of the tunnels located under the hospitals filled with weapons. You're right about the convoy though. That whole situation was messed up, but it's not enough to say there's a genocide happening.

@@Matthew-.- So the murder of tens of thousands of civilians, many of whom were children, is all good because the IDF gave them a warning? And where do you suppose they evacuate to after being told to continuously move south? Move to another country or stay and die? They don't have a port or an airport. Many don't have passports. This is ethnic cleansing. Targeting civilians is not only in reference to bombing hospitals lol. They have levelled entire neighbourhoods, destroyed farmland in the north and purposely damaged infrastructure. This is a genocide for all the world to see

@@Matthew-.- The IDF had been filmed (by themselves) laughing and enjoying themselves committing war crimes… Also, hamas supposedly hiding under hospitals is not an excuse to flatten them?? Why would that ever be okay? Were Hamas hiding under all 13 universities as well?

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