Spanish Civil War - Lessons NOT Learned - The British, French & US

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The Spanish Civil War (1936-1939) was probably the most significant war between the First and the Second World War. Quite many important lessons were learned and NOT learned by the British, French, US, German, Italian and Soviet Forces.
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Corum, James S.: The Spanish Civil War: Lessons Learned and Not Learned by the Great Powers; in: The Journal of Military History 62 (April 1998), p. 313-334
Ferris, John; Mawdsley, Evan: The in the West, 1939-1940 - The Battle of Britain? In: Ferris, John; Mawdsley, Evan: The Cambridge History of the Second World War - Volume I: Fighting the War, p. 315-330
Mahoney, Ross Wayne: The Royal Air Force, Combined Operations Doctrine and the Raid on Dieppe, 19 August 1942
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@MilitaryHistoryVisualized
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized 6 жыл бұрын
Check out the Infographics on Panzers in the Spanish Civil War here: www.redbubble.com/people/mhvis/works/30968662-panzers-and-the-spanis-civil-war-1936-1939?p=poster&finish=semi_gloss&size=medium
@thomasjamison2050
@thomasjamison2050 2 жыл бұрын
No offense intended, but ;you seem to reflect the tendency of the German military to overlook the world wide, though not universal, reaction to the bombing of Guernica. I feel it most certainly played a role, though a different one for obvious reasons, to the public response to the German Navy being suckered into sinking the Lusitania. German Military, and the Kaiser, never seemed to appreciate the impact in the allied countries, at least among many very influential individuals. I would add that the lesson is still remembered in the US by the way in which Colin Powell took the trouble to have the copy of the painting 'Guernica" covered up when he gave his press conference in front of it at the UN. No, I have no evidence that the Lusitania was instructed to both carry war material and to make itself an easy target in British waters. I just consider it quite obvious that it was so instructed to do such a blindingly stupid thing. I am confident you understand the effect of the propaganda regarding Belgium in WWI. Same thing really.
@christopher9727
@christopher9727 Ай бұрын
Do you know Jesus Christ can set you free from sins and save you from hell today Jesus Christ is the only hope in this world no other gods will lead you to heaven There is no security or hope with out Jesus Christ in this world come and repent of all sins today Today is the day of salvation come to the loving savior Today repent and do not go to hell Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today Romans 6.23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus
@eom1682
@eom1682 7 жыл бұрын
Im spanish and all I can say that we learned from the civil war is that guerrila tactics don't work at all if the enemy knows your capabilities and the terrain as well as you. Sorta like the best counter for guerrilla warfare is a good intelligence on them.
@oddballsok
@oddballsok 7 жыл бұрын
that is why it is a civil war
@eom1682
@eom1682 7 жыл бұрын
Well, what I meant is that it turned out to be a "the army vs the people" kind of war, pretty much like when we had the french invasion, ecept the army already knew everything the republicans had, their territory and all. in a modern example, the civil wars currently happening in middle east, "the people" there are actually a militia of jihadist and "freedom" fighters coming and operating from neighbour territories. Yes, this did happen in the spanish civil war, but it was just a minor point (some german air division, some tussian equipment lend and the international brigades, but that was just a mere footnote on the whole thing). So in modern middle east civil wars, the "army" side lacks this intelligence factor and I think its why the rebels can actually hide and operate so "freely".
@AmNotHere911
@AmNotHere911 7 жыл бұрын
""the people" there are actually a militia of jihadist and "freedom" fighters coming and operating from neighbour territories. " - I actually know something about this conflict: 1) Assad actually has as many foreigners fighting for him as Daeesh - he has the IRGC (Iranian)/Al-Quds Brigades (Iranian)/Hezbollah (Lebanese)/Hashd militias (Iraqi Shiite)/Fatemiyoun militias (Afghan Shiite) and the Slavonic Corps (Russian). 2) Daeesh is not the opposition the FSA (which even the Russian government acknowledges not only exists but is 'the legitimate opposition') and Syrian Islamists like Ahrar are and they're split in terms of fighters they have (ie FSA has 50% of the opposition fighters). 3) Assad is fighting the people because Assad is waging a sectarian war against Syria's Sunni majority. 4) This is a war against the 'people' because Assad is an autocrat who is fighting a nation-wide 'insurgency that began as non-sectarian and non-violent LCC-led reform movement. 5) The reason why Assad is losing is because the SAA (stands for: Syrian Arab Army), excluding the Republican Guards, doesn't exist as a professional entity anymore (all the Sunni soldiers/officers have either joined the FSA or are refugees in Europe) and it's the non-Arab Afghan Shiite soldiers (led by IRGC officers) who are doing the fighting ergo an incompetent militia men fighting other militia men. There are similarities between the Spanish civil wars though - the flattening of Aleppo (especially of every single Medicine San Frontier hospitals) by Russian jets is comparable to Guernica purely because the Russians have adopted the same approach they used in the 2nd Chechen war.
@eom1682
@eom1682 7 жыл бұрын
AmNotHere911 1- I wasnt impliying that DAESH had anything to do whatsoever, because the guerrilla tactics and AK rifles are not exclusive to terrorists you know XD. 2- Im no expert in that war, but the limitied knoweledge I have about it is that (and not impliying I advocate for any side) a side of the govermenent and army goes against a mass of its citizens and others because X reasons. What I was triying to say is that if they had a good intelligence net they would probably end the war in weeks because whats actually keeping either side alive is the lack of information, since im pretty sure if they knew the others wereabouts and state, some swift bombardments or bomb attacks could destroy the coordination, supplies and hopes of one side.
@eom1682
@eom1682 7 жыл бұрын
Precisely, because the lack of intelligence, guerrilla tactics work. The US army was so much superior than the vietnam militia and still lost. If they had a map of where is every vietnam force and its quantity and capalities, they war would be over in weeks.
@512TheWolf512
@512TheWolf512 7 жыл бұрын
luftwaffeled, haha
@alexbeau348
@alexbeau348 7 жыл бұрын
what the joke?
@toggafamai4224
@toggafamai4224 6 жыл бұрын
Alex Beau luftwaffe and waffle becomes luftwaffled. Basically crushed by the luftwaffe.
@unclejoeoakland
@unclejoeoakland 6 жыл бұрын
But they met their match against the might of the Royal Air Biscuits!
@KennedyA53
@KennedyA53 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t mind me, just responding to 3 year old comments
@christopher9727
@christopher9727 Ай бұрын
Do you know Jesus Christ can set you free from sins and save you from hell today Jesus Christ is the only hope in this world no other gods will lead you to heaven There is no security or hope with out Jesus Christ in this world come and repent of all sins today Today is the day of salvation come to the loving savior Today repent and do not go to hell Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today Romans 6.23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus
@hellyeahdude651
@hellyeahdude651 7 жыл бұрын
Nationalist Spain sends 2 divisions to help out.
@MikhaelAhava
@MikhaelAhava 7 жыл бұрын
hellyeahdude I thought they'd send you one too late.
@suola__
@suola__ 7 жыл бұрын
hellyeahdude dem refereces
@Peter-ox7wh
@Peter-ox7wh 7 жыл бұрын
hellyeahdude It was the Spanish blue division,fought in leningrad sector,good soldiers they had a kill death ratio 4/1 agains russians. with no tanks,planes....
@gnillortmi
@gnillortmi 7 жыл бұрын
Thats because they were good at massive killing civilians
@SpanishMilitaryPower
@SpanishMilitaryPower 7 жыл бұрын
There are no reports of either Soviet or German reports that the Spanish forces in the Krasni Bor sector were committing acts against the civilian population, on the contrary, they gave part of their few food to the local population and earned The appreciation of the premises, we can not say the same of all the forces of the axis ;).
@ohallright7
@ohallright7 7 жыл бұрын
Tea, Baguette, and AR-15. I love how thorough your videos are and your dry, straight humor is fantastic and factual.
@jakemarchbank
@jakemarchbank 3 жыл бұрын
I actually laughed out loud, hard
@arcani695
@arcani695 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that casual unexpected humor is always the funniest. Even irl in person jokes wich come out of nowere are funnier
@BraceletGrolf
@BraceletGrolf 7 жыл бұрын
What the part on France taught me : Man, Gamelin really was an idiot, screwing up this hard is really difficult.
@JustCause94
@JustCause94 7 жыл бұрын
That fighter escorts -icon tho, i guess that's one way to put it :'d
@meisterproper8304
@meisterproper8304 7 жыл бұрын
Isak N. was about to say the same lol
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized 7 жыл бұрын
I had this joke lying around since 2012/2013 when I was doing comics.
@Neuttah
@Neuttah 7 жыл бұрын
I wanna say I want a mug with that one, but on the other hand, it looks like it'll be years before I have the logistics in place to actually buy it.
@rosso4122
@rosso4122 7 жыл бұрын
i dont get it
@Schmeethe88
@Schmeethe88 7 жыл бұрын
I'd definitely buy a mug with just that symbol. No context or anything. Just an inside joke for myself. :)
@MrLAATMAARZITTE
@MrLAATMAARZITTE 7 жыл бұрын
There is still need for those fighter Escorts 2:38
@worldtraveler930
@worldtraveler930 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely one of the Most entertaining lessons of the Spanish civil War!
@VoodooBubble
@VoodooBubble 7 жыл бұрын
Actually, the most significant war between the first and the second world war is the Great Emu War
@georgek.9394
@georgek.9394 7 жыл бұрын
Badehose and the allies didnt learn from that either! if they designed their own emus , austalia wouldve been OP
@Trexmaster12
@Trexmaster12 7 жыл бұрын
Oh my, that's actually a thing...
@lordcancer642
@lordcancer642 7 жыл бұрын
George Koussa Australia needs a emo dragoons
@couldntthinkofanythinggood511
@couldntthinkofanythinggood511 7 жыл бұрын
Trexmaster12 brother is that you
@Trexmaster12
@Trexmaster12 7 жыл бұрын
noh
@ZeitgeistTheTruth15
@ZeitgeistTheTruth15 7 жыл бұрын
This channel helpeld me to understand better the logic of war. More that any other documentary lasting ages. Thank you military history visualized, your effort to make accessible and easy to understand these extremely complex informations is outstanding.
@oddballsok
@oddballsok 7 жыл бұрын
thank the original writers of the books that he referenced..
@eom1682
@eom1682 7 жыл бұрын
"your effort to make accessible and easy to understand these extremely complex informations is outstanding." He wasnt praising the information but the way it is displayed. Its like complimenting a gaming youtuber's editing skills, even though he obviusly didnt make the game.
@MrRenegadeshinobi
@MrRenegadeshinobi 7 жыл бұрын
Hakkapeliitta that would be awesome!!!!
@phil6715
@phil6715 7 жыл бұрын
Hakkapeliitta ur finish :D
@phil6715
@phil6715 7 жыл бұрын
Hakkapeliitta ur finish :D
@acassiopeia6439
@acassiopeia6439 7 жыл бұрын
"Hold on to your tea..." OI THAT'S OFFENS- Oh wait, I am actually holding a mug of tea, proceed.
@EstellammaSS
@EstellammaSS 7 жыл бұрын
You should do one on the mislearned lessons of Spanish Civil War. Like how the Soviets reversed their armor doctrine because their heavy losses to AT gun ambush, but instead of emphasizing the importance of recon and Infantry support they blamed the tanks instead.
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized 7 жыл бұрын
interesting, do you have a source recommendation.
@EstellammaSS
@EstellammaSS 7 жыл бұрын
Military History Visualized English is not my native language, so I tried to find a English source but I can't be sure if it was valid. "Soviet Tank Operations in the Spanish Civil War" by Steven J. Zaloga seemed pretty accurate. However I do recommend studying the generals themselves. Namely the creator of deep battle doctrine- Mikhail Tukhachevsky , plus Khalepsky , and Pavlov's character in the Spanish Civil war. And last but not least, the flawed yet advanced, PU-36. It's really an emotional roller coaster seeing how close they were, yet stalled and fell only to learn it and perfect it again-- with blood.
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized 7 жыл бұрын
thank you, German sources are also fine :) Well, sadly I can't spent time on studying individual characters for a video, 90-95 % of my time is spent on other stuff than reading. I wish I could invest more time, but than I couldn't put out these videos.
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized 7 жыл бұрын
found the article btw. looks great
@EstellammaSS
@EstellammaSS 7 жыл бұрын
Military History Visualized Tukhachevsky shouldn't be too long of a read, since he along with his supporters got purged by Stalin. PU-36 is quite important too, you don't have to read it all. Just the "attack" part should be enough, since the Soviets haven't figured it out yet there's some details (some important) missing. Cheers, love your channel. ;)
@teethirtyfour7394
@teethirtyfour7394 7 жыл бұрын
-Germany used Luftwaffle -It was very effective! -France has fainted
@minuteman4199
@minuteman4199 7 жыл бұрын
As a retired army officer I can assure you that there are very few officers with the intellectual curiosity to study history and current events. There are some, but not many.
@walangchahangyelingden8252
@walangchahangyelingden8252 2 жыл бұрын
Well, good for those few men.
@b.griffin317
@b.griffin317 7 жыл бұрын
The AR owners in the audience appreciate the shoutout.
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized 7 жыл бұрын
+b. griffin ;)
@rotuhiiri7097
@rotuhiiri7097 7 жыл бұрын
I'd like that kind of fighter escort
@worldtraveler930
@worldtraveler930 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely one of the Most entertaining lessons of the Spanish civil war!
@thustra07
@thustra07 7 жыл бұрын
A surviving American WWII fighter pilot that I shared this video with praised your research and conclusions.
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized 7 жыл бұрын
thank you!
@jacquesfrancois4151
@jacquesfrancois4151 7 жыл бұрын
lessons not learned : that you win wars with spandaus firing pommels
@ethanhatcher5533
@ethanhatcher5533 6 жыл бұрын
Jacques François finish them off rightly
@undyingUmbrage
@undyingUmbrage 6 жыл бұрын
End them rightly
@podemosurss8316
@podemosurss8316 7 жыл бұрын
I would like one video about ground tactics used during the Spanish Civil war. I think it can be interesting since they had some important things like the uses of extended mechanised/armored units (2 brigades on the Republican side, 3 brigades on the Nationalist side), as well as some lessons about fighting in a Schweckpunkt. Also the question of modern urban warfare: the Spanish civil war was the first war with a modern urban battle, the battle for Madrid, which lasted about 3 years.
@sayonarastalin5835
@sayonarastalin5835 7 жыл бұрын
Absollutelly , a external view of the tactics and armament of the civil war could be really interesting .
@TTiger75
@TTiger75 7 жыл бұрын
How about doing a whole episode about the 88 Flak? It would be interesting to know how effective it was in its original role (AA vs Fighters, Ground Support Planes, Bombers...) and what the numbers and statistics where on other targets (e.g. Tanks or Bunkers/Fortifications -> Sewastopol...) plus how it was utilized by the Wehrmacht in action (position and role during a battle)... And yeah I am German writing nouns with Capital Letters. ;-)
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized 7 жыл бұрын
yeah, there probably will be at least one video about it, either by Bismarck or by me or both. And as you can see the model is already there. The main issue with stuff like the 88mm FlaK is that usually the source material is often not of the best quality and interesting aspects of organization etc. are hard to find too.
@Rocky.vs.
@Rocky.vs. 7 жыл бұрын
Military History Visualized are there any videos of Wehrmacht and SS operations in Balkans or Yugoslavia?
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized 7 жыл бұрын
@sasha: nope and there won't be: militaryhistoryvisualized.com/faq/
@flyhi2773
@flyhi2773 6 жыл бұрын
Military History Visualized Have you read Germany and the second world war, Oxford University series of books? Originally published in German they go into fantastic detail. Volume 7 covers flak in amazing detail. They were crazy expensive books but now in paper back they are much more affordable.
@filipjakes1520
@filipjakes1520 7 жыл бұрын
You got me at hold on to your AR-15
@kempodle4665
@kempodle4665 7 жыл бұрын
Filip Jakes there's a reason Americans like me subscribe to this channel
@smarmyeod8557
@smarmyeod8557 7 жыл бұрын
Ditto.
@pnutz_2
@pnutz_2 7 жыл бұрын
I would have said hold onto your 1911
@tommunistbroadcastingnetwo81
@tommunistbroadcastingnetwo81 7 жыл бұрын
Same
@johnyyonehand
@johnyyonehand 6 жыл бұрын
4:30 lufftwaffled - oh my....this is my new favourite word !
@tamir3071
@tamir3071 7 жыл бұрын
I really liked the stereotype joke about all of our countries. Greetings from America!
@gahamhumphrey4812
@gahamhumphrey4812 6 жыл бұрын
CaptinSnuggles 3 nice IE profile pic brother, 👌🏻
@Battleschnodder
@Battleschnodder 7 жыл бұрын
man your videos have really interesting themes recently
@KrillLiberator
@KrillLiberator 7 жыл бұрын
Yet another great presentation. Thank you!
@paulcateiii
@paulcateiii 7 жыл бұрын
glad u did an episode on this conflict
@timneeno4784
@timneeno4784 6 жыл бұрын
Well done! Very informative piece.
@edi9892
@edi9892 7 жыл бұрын
Escort fighters: I love it!
@jungle_cs
@jungle_cs 7 жыл бұрын
this is something a teacher could show a class and everyone would be able to understand completely, keep up the good videos!
@xXxsmartypantzxXx
@xXxsmartypantzxXx 7 жыл бұрын
Nice Fighter Escorts icon :D
@spef7396
@spef7396 7 жыл бұрын
great video dude
@jmbrosendo
@jmbrosendo 7 жыл бұрын
I came here hoping to see something about the overall lessons, but found it funny nonetheless how even back then branch rivalry was always more important than having a more up to date and efective doctrine. The " only the (air/navy/army) can win this war" syndrome. Anywho, great video as always!
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 5 жыл бұрын
joao rosendo Excellent Point.
@hydra7427
@hydra7427 7 жыл бұрын
Hold on to my AR-15? Shit, man, you don't need to tell me that. I use that thing as a hug pillow.
@JaLiberal
@JaLiberal 7 жыл бұрын
It's very intersesting. Even more so when you consider that just prior to the WWI there were Balkan wars in 1912 and 1913 in which in short period 250.000 people died and you could see usefulness of machingun and modern warfare tactics. And western powers ignored that wars since "...people always die like that in Balkans..."
@velikiradojica
@velikiradojica 7 жыл бұрын
That "fighter escort" icon. You're breaking the German humour stereotype so hard, my sides reached orbit and then dropped on London.
@jeffmoore9487
@jeffmoore9487 5 жыл бұрын
Military History Visualized: You must read a lot! The intersection of brain and industrial might is the greatest lesson of WW2. Your vids often seem directed at this intersection and are amazingly useful, even for today. "Institutional barriers and/or routes to learning" or "Highly placed Egos" could be the title of this vid. WW2 was a showpiece of national and international industrial power and therefore a perfect lab for assessing the political powers that directed industry and overall military strategy.
@vygotsky17
@vygotsky17 6 жыл бұрын
Symbol for Fighter Escorts is genius :D Also Luftwaffled? Brilliant.
@michelemisamauri9559
@michelemisamauri9559 6 жыл бұрын
I don't want to seem rude or anything, but do you plan on making one on the same topic, yet analizing the other three major powers taking part in the Spanish Civil War? Also, thanks a lot for the work you do by posting these videos - as other have already mentioned, you really help many people more than documentaries lasting 5 times more than one of your videos.
@MarkAndrewEdwards
@MarkAndrewEdwards 7 жыл бұрын
"hang onto your AR 15" LOL. Got mine. Le Nerd Loved the graphic for the ' fighter escort' too! Quite the subtle wit. Also informative, great stuff.
@MegaSommerfeld
@MegaSommerfeld 6 жыл бұрын
hast mein abbo, finde deine videos sehr informativ und interessant, weiter so!
@podemosurss8316
@podemosurss8316 6 жыл бұрын
1:05 I love your way of mispronouncing Guadalajara, it sounds even better than the correct pronunciation. Also that battle was a land ambush taking cover in a dense fog. The Italians attacked an entrenched position (ironically also defended by Italians: it was defended by the "Garibaldi" battalion made out of exiled Italians) during a fog and were surprised due to Republican air superiority and great defensive positions.
@looinrims
@looinrims 3 жыл бұрын
“Tea, Baguette, and AR-15” I was expecting “cheeseburger” or “soda” but I mean I’ll take it
@VisciousPhishes
@VisciousPhishes 7 жыл бұрын
Making Videos Great Again!
@samarkand1585
@samarkand1585 7 жыл бұрын
fighter escorts uh. I wouldn't mind a game with these kinds of fighter escorts
@thelvadam2375
@thelvadam2375 7 жыл бұрын
This channel can make top notch Generals out of anyone.
@HjalfnarFeuerwolf
@HjalfnarFeuerwolf 7 жыл бұрын
There it is. I finally joined my first notification squad ever. Nice video, I hope for a "Lessons learned...or not" video on short notice. ;)
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized 7 жыл бұрын
wtf, dein comment war im spam filter... KZfaq hat mal wieder ordentlich gesoffen.
@HjalfnarFeuerwolf
@HjalfnarFeuerwolf 7 жыл бұрын
Shit happens. xD
@JS-cc6dz
@JS-cc6dz 7 жыл бұрын
9:15.... "made also mistake" in English action (made) comes after the "who" (also) hopefully that helps, your vids are epic! Gutentag
@mickles1975
@mickles1975 7 жыл бұрын
I'm pausing this video so I can go and get some tea to hold on to.
@IMGsmereka
@IMGsmereka 7 жыл бұрын
From america and an ar 15 owner, I love this channel you sir have earned a sub
@christianlibertarian5488
@christianlibertarian5488 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love this channel. I would like to point out that the mistakes this video highlights have been repeated in US military thinking time and again.
@dopamine261
@dopamine261 7 жыл бұрын
Your research is amazing, were do you look?
@vogonford
@vogonford 7 жыл бұрын
"Hold on to your tea, baguette, or AR-15" Well, the only one of those I don't have at my desk right now is a baguette.
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized 7 жыл бұрын
:D
@amerigo88
@amerigo88 7 жыл бұрын
It wasn't just the Spanish Civil War tuned out by the US Army Air Corps leadership. They forced out Claire Chennault before that war. He went on to lead the AVG Flying Tigers squadrons to a tremendous kill ratio over the Japanese air forces in China even as the Air Corps, Navy, and Marine Corps pilots were being mowed down by the Zeros and Oscars over the Pacific Ocean. Chennault trained the Flying Tigers to use hit-and-run air tactics against the Japanese while the rest of the American air forces of 1941 - 1942 had to unlearn the obsolete doctrine of dogfighting as if they were on even or superior terms with the Japanese. After the bitter lessons through Midway in June 1942, the American aviation leadership eventually changed their doctrine during the brutal battles of the Solomon Islands campaign. For more information, look into the "Cactus Air Force, the "Thatch Weave" and the "boom-and-zoom" use of P-38 Lightning fighters in the South Pacific. I'm really more interested in what lessons were learned by the German and Soviet leadership from their participation in the Spanish Civil War. I believe Rommel used the 88mm flak guns to destroy superior Soviet-made tanks in Spain, only to repeat the exercise against the French Char-B and British Matilda tanks in May 1940. Guderian and others had to repeat this exercise again in 1941 versus the Soviet BT tanks' successor - the T-34. It wasn't until the Panzer IV's were finally fitted with long-barreled 75mm guns in 1942 that the Germans could become somewhat less reliant on overcoming the superior Soviet tanks through superior combined arms tactics. Maybe I missed it, but I would love to see a video here on the development of Finnish air force tactics that allowed them to achieve incredible kill ratio superiority over the VVS (Soviet air force) during the 1939 - 1940 Winter War. The Finns had a piecemeal collection of aircraft that had been mostly cast off by the major powers (e.g. the American-made Brewster Buffalo fighter considered a death trap by American and RAF pilots after heavy losses against the Japanese.) Yet, the Finnish pilots inflicted tremendous losses on the Soviets and were able to sustain valuable reconnaissance over the Karelian Isthmus. I was also intrigued at the Finns' emphasis on logistics during the Winter War. Their soldiers received awards and bonuses for destroying field kitchens as their role in keeping the troops fed and warm in subfreezing temperatures was better understood by the Finnish leadership than by the Soviets. If you are interested, find a copy of "Frozen Hell," an excellent book on the Winter War. Yes, I have seen your video on the Finnish motti tactics. Very good work. I'm a history nerd and could do with a bit less humor in these videos as it elicits so many comments that really add nothing to anyone's understanding of the subject matter. I chuckle at some of the jokes, but tire of looking for comments of substance. I guess the game is all about collecting eyeballs and clicks, so I will learn to skim the comments faster.
@LasertechStudios3142
@LasertechStudios3142 7 жыл бұрын
It really depends on the video. The video he did on Pearl Harbor for instance had a lot more academic discussion (along with the usual shitstorm that accompanies Pearl Harbor) than something like this video did, despite the fact that he probably put in an equal amount of effort into both. Unfortunately there are some things that people take more seriously on the internet than others.
@melchiorvonsternberg844
@melchiorvonsternberg844 7 жыл бұрын
wtf? Rommel never fought in Spain...
@Yaponnk
@Yaponnk 7 жыл бұрын
Lmao who the fuck think Rommel fought in Spain and calls himself a history nerd?
@Karthagast
@Karthagast 6 жыл бұрын
Apart from the fact that Rommel never fought in Spain (already mentioned), you don't need an AT gun 88mm to knock out a T-26 or a BT-5 (the main tank models supplied by the Soviets to the Republican Spanish). At short range, the German supplied PAK35/36 (37mm caliber) and the Italian supplied c47/32 (47mm caliber) were good enough AT guns to destroy a T-26 tank. On the reverse, the Soviet supplied PTP-32 (47mm caliber) was an AT gun more than capable to knock out at longer range the mere tankettes (Pzkw I and L3) supplied by Germany and Italy to Nationalist Spanish. Moreover, even the so called Maklen and the Arellano, both of them 37mm guns intended for infantry support role were capable of destroying the thinny armored Nationalist tankettes.
@juliancate7089
@juliancate7089 7 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. The interwar period is a fascinating era to study. I hope your next video will give us part 2. I enjoyed the humor injected into the commentary. And yes, I'm an American and I have an AR-15 and a truck load of ammunition, because 'Murica. That just made me laugh. Also, I'd like to know if there are other new verbs to compliment "Luftwaffled"?
@melchiorvonsternberg844
@melchiorvonsternberg844 7 жыл бұрын
I don`t get it. Murcia is a nice town in Spain. They do great leather works their and have very cute girls! I visited the city in the 90`s... Oh, the youth time...
@juliancate7089
@juliancate7089 7 жыл бұрын
Its 'Murica, not Murcia. The apostrophe is for the missing letter A, thus Amurica. We all know that the proper spelling and pronunciation is AMERICA, right? But there exists in the southern states of the U.S. a minority of white people who are on the lower end of the socio-economic scale and tend to be poorly educated. They have strong accents and tend to be patriotic - but for purely emotional reasons. And when they want to express the idea of American superiority or their support of America, they say " "Murica! " Its an attempt to give a phonetic spelling to the way they say it. Understand? Its humor.
@AlaricAchos
@AlaricAchos 5 жыл бұрын
very interesting, would like to see one focused on German, Italian and Soviet Forces
@BHuang92
@BHuang92 7 жыл бұрын
Interesting topic to cover. I wonder if military analysis today are making notes of a future war..........
@CanisLatrans
@CanisLatrans 7 жыл бұрын
I love your "Fighter Escorts Needed" icon. Hahaha!
@BikerJim74
@BikerJim74 7 жыл бұрын
I'm an American and I'm offended that you assume I have an AR-15. Just kidding, I got 4 of them.
@GnarledStaff
@GnarledStaff 7 жыл бұрын
Biker Jim I'm an American and I am offended that I don't have an AR-15.
@BikerJim74
@BikerJim74 7 жыл бұрын
haha
@IZn0g0uDatAll
@IZn0g0uDatAll 5 жыл бұрын
I’m french and i have baguette and no weapon. Baguette >>>>> guns. You can’t even eat a gun.
@jackcohen4931
@jackcohen4931 7 жыл бұрын
3:35 le nerd you craked me up
@lancelot1953
@lancelot1953 7 жыл бұрын
Brilliant presentation of a lesser known war that had significant impact on the future of Europe. I love your knowledge of some of the idiosyncrasies of some of the cultures you address your videos to... (Americans, hang on to your AR-15!), that was cute. I have served in each of these countries and you are right! Thank you for putting the Spanish Civil War in perspective and extracting this "new" information out of it - emphasizing it. Ciao, L (USA)
@matthewshultz8717
@matthewshultz8717 7 жыл бұрын
Always a good video. I didn't even learn about the spanish civil war in high school . Only when I saw pans labyrinth did I learn the war happened.
@eom1682
@eom1682 7 жыл бұрын
Matthew Shultz same happens here, most people dont even know the chinese had a civil war or even that they were invaded by the japanese for example.
@MikhaelAhava
@MikhaelAhava 7 жыл бұрын
My bed time story, yeah it's bedtime in the east. Thanks for uploading just on time.
@suola__
@suola__ 7 жыл бұрын
Heres a challenge. Do finnish civil war...
@tuomasheikkinen9251
@tuomasheikkinen9251 7 жыл бұрын
This is name deal with it google it was a small war.
@Pajgubb3
@Pajgubb3 7 жыл бұрын
He has a video on Motti tactics
@suola__
@suola__ 7 жыл бұрын
Pajgubb3 thats from ww2
@Pajgubb3
@Pajgubb3 7 жыл бұрын
Oooh right. you said civil war, not winter war. My bad.
@phil6715
@phil6715 7 жыл бұрын
he has done finish Strats is the winter war, so sit down be happy And Wait for Soviet strategy like the rest of us
7 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, especially those with hidden jokes, escort fighter icon? luftwaffled? OMG :D
@turboconqueringmegaeagle9006
@turboconqueringmegaeagle9006 7 жыл бұрын
hold on to your tea, baguette.... and ar15, first time you have made me laugh. nice video as always.
@whotookfuqdog
@whotookfuqdog 6 жыл бұрын
Long time watcher and I respect and appreciate your channel. Normally I don't really notice your accent but your pronunciation of "Guadalajara" made me laugh. Is that the toughest word you've had to do for your channel as a native German speaker?
@MartinTraXAA
@MartinTraXAA 7 жыл бұрын
Luftwaffled is perhaps the best military history word I've heard in years, brilliant!
@Irrkie
@Irrkie 7 жыл бұрын
2:35 very clever symbol for "escort" fighter haha
@johnf.kennedy7540
@johnf.kennedy7540 7 жыл бұрын
I'm a WW2 veteran I'll hold onto my M1 Garand instead
@melchiorvonsternberg844
@melchiorvonsternberg844 7 жыл бұрын
Yo! And as a German, I polish my StG 44...
@Heckle1903
@Heckle1903 6 жыл бұрын
My Ar is Heavy barrel, and I think I'm just going to put it on the window sill, so I don't have to hold it up anymore.
@worldtraveler930
@worldtraveler930 4 жыл бұрын
Let's not forget the Swiss and their vaulted K31. Or the Russians and their Vodka.
@Mittens_Gaming
@Mittens_Gaming 7 жыл бұрын
From the USA. Had an AR-15 next to me that I was cleaning when he said "Hold onto your AR-15." Its accurate.
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized 7 жыл бұрын
:D
@soso-zz9qf
@soso-zz9qf 7 жыл бұрын
"Luftwaffled" my new favourite word
@Munroe031
@Munroe031 6 жыл бұрын
"Hold on to your tea, baguette, and AR-15" *_HAHA!!!_* That was awesome - Sincerely, an American AR-15 owner!
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized 6 жыл бұрын
+Legion Etrangere :)
@VRichardsn
@VRichardsn 7 жыл бұрын
Waiting diligently for the Axis version of this video. It will provide an interesting showcase and comparison.
@joeharris864
@joeharris864 7 жыл бұрын
"Hold on to your AR15" and "Luftwaffled" had me in stitches.
@PrivateSlacker
@PrivateSlacker 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for my new profile pic.
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized 7 жыл бұрын
lol :D
@looinrims
@looinrims 3 жыл бұрын
I’m glad to see you kept it
@neilwilson5785
@neilwilson5785 7 жыл бұрын
Fighter Escorts icon. Pure gold.
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 6 жыл бұрын
The Spanish Civil War was important for a geopolitical reason too: namely that Europe and America were less worried about Hitler than they were about Stalin. All European countries ended up either directly or indirectly supporting the Nationalists while the USSR supported the Republic. The only other government which lent any support to the Republic was that of Leon Blum. The vast majority of the attention in Europe in the 1930s was focussed on the expansion of communism and some, particularly the British, were completely blindsided by it. Fortunately, the British parliament - led at that time by Neville Chamberlain - chose not to listen too closely to the paranoia of the Foreign Office, read the situation correctly and went about rearming anyway.
@rusoviettovarich9221
@rusoviettovarich9221 3 жыл бұрын
The British foreign office had no allusions about what was looming on the horizon they also were shrewd enough to uncover the agenda by Stalin. Suck the major powers on either side of the Spanish Civil War and begin a war in Iberia which will lead to a general war continent wide.
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 3 жыл бұрын
@@rusoviettovarich9221 What? What agenda would that be and how did the Spanish Civil War lead ro WWII?
@rusoviettovarich9221
@rusoviettovarich9221 3 жыл бұрын
@@thethirdman225 CCCP was surrounded by nations that were virulently anti-red. Stalin championed Hitler because in order for the reds to advance, as they did briefly, post 1918 - there has to be chaos or best of all war. My point above - the Comintern ordered the KPD to abandon support for the SRs in Germany leading to the chancellorship offered to Hitler. Hitler was Stalin's gift to jump start war and the Spanish Civil War was the preliminary attempt that failed to suck everyone in.
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 3 жыл бұрын
@@rusoviettovarich9221 I disagree. Communism, even under Stalin, was internationalist in its outlook., rather than nationalist. It presumed that once other countries saw the benefits of communism, they would eventually become communist themselves. The Soviet leadership had great hopes for a communist revolution in Germany at the end of WWI but it didn’t happen. That did not mean they did not continue to trade with Germany. In fact the Rapallo agreement of 1922 expanded that trade considerably and each became the others biggest trading partner and that remains so to this day. Stalin had a few territorial ambitions but they centred around regaining the territories lost at the end of WWI, notably eastern Poland. That ambition was realised with the Molotov Ribbentrop agreement in 1939. Any notion that Stalin was somehow plotting to start WWII early by becoming involved in Spain is simply not true. Unfortunately, the West has deluded itself again with large swathes of people choosing to believe Suvarov’s unsubstantiated claims of a Soviet mega tank army to take over all of Europe. It has no currency among any historians, whatever their personal bent. It certain fails to explain why Hitler was able to annex places like Austria, Czechoslovakia and Poland unopposed and, in the case of Poland, with some connivance from Stalin. As far as the Spanish Civil War is concerned, Soviet aid to the republic was, in part, conditional. Stalin wanted to make sure the left wing parties in Spain were the same brand as he was in order that support be continued. This was shown in the oppression of libertarian socialist groups like the POUM, which Orwell was fighting for and left wing libertarian communist groups.
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 3 жыл бұрын
@@rusoviettovarich9221 Where did the Soviet Union advance post-1918? They had a brief stoush with Poland, which they lost, in 1920 and that was it. The Soviet Union was virulently opposed to Hitler because 1) he was anti-Bolshevik and 2) he was anti-communist. You don’t have to look very hard to see this.
@Bob1942ful
@Bob1942ful 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Loved the Fighter Escort. Interesting how the USAF still does not consider ground attack that important. For years now they have tried to eliminate the A10 Warthog and would not allow anyone else to pickup this job. Makes you wonder if the UAVs will pick up the ground attack role.
@MrMaffy96
@MrMaffy96 7 жыл бұрын
Yes another video please! Italy also made mistakes, kept producing CV33 (tankettes for infantry support and recon only armed with MGs) after they were badly defeated by T-26 (light tanks with AT guns), and they even kept developing new biplanes (The CR 42 for example).
@MrMaffy96
@MrMaffy96 7 жыл бұрын
They also didn't develop and produce a "real" AT gun, only multi purpose ones (the 47mm, that was still capable of dealing with most tanks till 1941-first half of 1942, but there were better AT guns around at that time)
@DuckSwagington
@DuckSwagington 7 жыл бұрын
Well the lessons that could be learnt from the Spanish Civil War are lessons on Aggressive Aireal Campaigns with bombings. There was little development of uses of fighters in the interwar period as fighter tactics are comparatively less complex then Bombing tactics. Bomber Escorts where only developed during the Battle of Britain and where not perfected until 1943/44 when the P51D came into service where you had a moderately maneuverable Fighter that could climb to the same alt as the bombers they're escorting and have the fuel to stay with the bombers all the time.
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 5 жыл бұрын
DuckSwagington There were other ways of doing it that did not depend on having escorts around. It depended on how for you were going. Diversion raids were frequently carried out and timed to ensure that the German fighters would be on the ground refuelling and rearming when the main force passed over. It wasn’t necessary to have Mustangs for that. These sorts of things always presented logistical problems because timing was critical and bombers and fighters fly at different speeds. Other factors were there to frustrate planners. It didn’t work at Schweinfurt because of the weather.
@KahalealiiTedIshikawa
@KahalealiiTedIshikawa 7 жыл бұрын
I've never heard of the Spanish Civil War. Mahalo for this. Aloha.
@666bambucia
@666bambucia 7 жыл бұрын
Did you do a Polish-Soviet 1920 War video? If no, you should do one
@altair1983
@altair1983 7 жыл бұрын
one of your better videos if i may say (not that others are bad), this one is very much to my taste - lessons (not) learned. oh, and great subtle humor!
@Hannah_Em
@Hannah_Em 7 жыл бұрын
"Luftwaffled" is now my favourite verb
@JustianoHolguin
@JustianoHolguin 7 жыл бұрын
Hey man, talk about of Battle of 5 de Mayo de 1862 (5 of may, 1862). Greetings.
@warrenlodge6754
@warrenlodge6754 2 жыл бұрын
“Grab your cup of tea, baguette or AR-15”, brilliant 😊😂😂
@ralach
@ralach 7 жыл бұрын
"Luftwaffled" ; my favorite new word of the day.. :)
@MrL702
@MrL702 7 жыл бұрын
Can you do an indepth video on the Red Army's field tactics and doctrine during the counter offensive? I think it would be interesting to know how they actually deployed and used their ground assets and such.
@melchiorvonsternberg844
@melchiorvonsternberg844 7 жыл бұрын
That`s easy: Bring your own troops with gun barrell at theirs heads backside, to storm the enemy lines and loose 75% of your men. Then wait for new men and so on... So you loose 17.000.000 soldiers in less then 4 years. But you see: It works...
@MrL702
@MrL702 7 жыл бұрын
No, you're following the Hollywood myth of human waves. Also, that's a really wild estimate of casualties you got going there.
@lomax343
@lomax343 7 жыл бұрын
2:40 If that's what's meant by an escort fighter, I'm joining the RAF tomorrow.
@SantomPh
@SantomPh 7 жыл бұрын
lomax343 it's a man in a wig.
@shawngilliland243
@shawngilliland243 5 жыл бұрын
Don't you love the humorous touches he includes in his videos?
@kevinbyrne4538
@kevinbyrne4538 7 жыл бұрын
Hmmm ... All of the quotes come from one source -- Corum's article. Always best to check an author's conclusions against at least one other source. Nevertheless, this channel is FAR better than any other on the subject. Thank you for your labors.
@Stierlitz
@Stierlitz 7 жыл бұрын
That cheeky escort fighter image :D
@MrRenegadeshinobi
@MrRenegadeshinobi 7 жыл бұрын
I would like to see you do a collaboration with the channel the Great War, which is covering World War 1 week by week.
@chrisi237
@chrisi237 7 жыл бұрын
Will you also make a few videos about modern warfare like 1990-today?
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized
@MilitaryHistoryVisualized 7 жыл бұрын
yes, I think my room breaching video, which was based on a 2011 US Army Field Manual was a pretty clear indicator for that. Yet, videos and proper background information take time.
@chrisi237
@chrisi237 7 жыл бұрын
Military History Visualized Yes i saw that video but i am talking about conflicts. But thanks for responding!
@dongiovanni13
@dongiovanni13 7 жыл бұрын
Was there any note by the US Naval air Corp on the lessons of the Spanish Civil War? I know that battleships were the doctrinal main force of the pre ww2 navy, but after the disabling of most of the us Pacific fleets battleships and the effectiveness of carrier aviation, the naval air corp became the primary strike arm of the navy.
@GrandMasterAbe
@GrandMasterAbe 7 жыл бұрын
7:38 ...safe space...kek
@dimakapeev3156
@dimakapeev3156 7 жыл бұрын
Could you make a video as a comparison between the different doctrines used by the Allies, Germany, Japan and the USSR during WW2
@ziyulin2721
@ziyulin2721 5 жыл бұрын
So basicly the UK and the US, who went down Operational Integrity and Strategic Destruction trees, have no interest in the tech discounts of Battlefield Support while France didnt even get rid of Victors of the Great War debuff
@arsenal-slr9552
@arsenal-slr9552 7 жыл бұрын
Great video man! As for this Ami, forget AR15s, Kalashnikovs for life!
@martinwelsh958
@martinwelsh958 7 жыл бұрын
Whenever I talk to my friends about British Army Command, I can never let go of the fact that they refused to allow trroops to use AA guns as AT guns (such as the 88mm was used, and as the 2cm AA guns were used as anti-infantry) because "that's not the task that the gun was assigned". Gotta love British High Command.
@albertgrant6670
@albertgrant6670 7 жыл бұрын
Martin Welsh like the british and french henerals of WW one. the Donkees
@martinwelsh958
@martinwelsh958 7 жыл бұрын
Albert Grant it wasn't just the British and French generals of ww1, but also the German and Austrian general who were inept (at the start of the war). And don't forget; the Brits were the ones who brought in tanks, so they weren't the colossal nutbags that they were in WW2.
@wbertie2604
@wbertie2604 6 жыл бұрын
Martin Welsh the AA guns the British had weren't as usable in the horizontal plane, and had just HE, so to a large extent they would have been wasting ammunition when the issued anti tank guns had much better capabilities, along with the 25lb field gun, which was issued with effective anti tank shells. You could ask why Germany didn't employ field artillery in an anti tank role as much as the UK.
@schizoidboy
@schizoidboy 7 жыл бұрын
I remember the British series "A Piece of Cake" where one of the pilots was an expatriate American who flew in the Spanish Civil War. For the most part the higher ups dislike his knowledge based on his experience but later it does seem to show through in his fighting. Granted in TV shows one does have to be careful regarding historical accuracy - the old saying never let the facts get in the way of a good story (something that irritates historians to no end), but after seeing this it does make sense that there would be opposition from the old school officers to a foreigner with experience different than their doctrines.
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