My thumb is killing me lol

Apparently this was a design limitation of older semi-auto shotguns in order to include a bolt hold open. I've read some manuals for old Beretta and Mossberg shotguns that had this same thing. The High Standard HS-10 also does that as well. Newer semi-auto shotguns have design changes to allow a bolt hold open to work while also leaving the elevator open for loading. Redesigning an entire trigger group to allow that for the SPAS-12 will probably be difficult, though.

Could engineer some small piece that you slide over the button and it holds the bolt release for you. Just a thought.

R6 got it right with Valkyrie

@@VoidLupuS yeap

When you watch closely, Gordon Freeman just cramms the shells into the heat shield.

@@danielp.1594 that can't be good

The shotgun from Jurassic park*

@@danielp.1594 lmao

I know it's been a while since you asked, but this might help someone else. If you want one of the three and can't get a SPAS, I'd go for a LAW as a second choice. I own all three but the SAS was insanely hard to find. I ended up cobbling one together with a Gunbroker receiver and various parts from Numrich. If you find one at a good price, definitely go for it. They are very well made. All the parts are beefier than an 870 or 590 but of course it does cost more.

+martin somebody The magazine cutoff is a little touchy (on mine anyway) so if I'm using it at all I will keep my finger on it to keep the magazine locked out. Sometimes even the action of removing my finger from it will be enough to pull it out and throw a shell into the receiver which then sends the bolt flying forward and chambers the round. There is a slight "catch" that you can feel when you push it in, but it's not as positive as you might hope. If you disengage the cutoff while there are still rounds in the magazine tube it will do as I mentioned above, the round will pop out from the magazine tube into the receiver, which will trip your carrier latch, which then causes the lifter to activate and your bolt to close, actively loading the gun. Pretty much the same thing that happens when I "karate chop" it in this video. Hope this helps!

+spas12project Thanks a lot for the replay! Stay safe bro!

Sorry bro, I don't understand how it is possible to close the shutter with the cartridge cut button ... mine does not

Unfortunately I do not, I have been in contact with an owner of a SPAS 12 though, and he had some custom fabricated by a gunsmith. You can check out a few pictures of them in the gallery section on spas-12.com!

choketube.com has SPAS 12 chokes, another user just pointed that out to me. You have to call them, can't order them from their website, but they do have them!

atmarcella it’s to switch between pump and semi automatic

I'd say the average price for a SPAS is around $1500, that varies greatly depending on condition and accessories, but I'd say if you had $1500 saved up you should be able to find a decent one with a crossbolt safety. Gunbroker prices will always be higher, but I found mine for $1300 locally for example. Good luck!

The person is asking 1100 for a fix stock cross bolt is it worth it being i haven't found a folding stock kit anywhere. By the way thanks for your time.

It has and extention but I believe its not original.

bunkerfest The best advice I can give you is that if you want a SPAS with a folding stock, buy it with a folding stock. Chances are you'll never find one afterwards, and if you do it's going to be insanely expensive. You can save yourself a lot of time, money, and headaches by buying the exact gun you want. You should be able to find folding stock models for not too much more than the $1100 you're looking at, though they may have a lever safety which is up to you for how important it is.

Thanks buddy I'll keep looking then.

The SAS 12 can use the folding stock right off the bat, but if you get the version meant for the SPAS it won't latch in the folded position unless you go the whole hog and use the SPAS front half as well. If you do use the front end of a SPAS you'll also need the bit of magazine that attaches to its receiver because the one from the SAS is too short. The bolt/bolt carrier from the SAS is compatible with the SPAS parts. If you do use the SPAS bolt you have to leave the charging handle out because the SAS receiver has no slot in it. So it's doable with a SAS 12, but pricey and you still might be violating California laws on folding stocks and such. An 870 would be impossible without very extensive custom mods.

You won't be disappointed. If you thought a regular shotgun racking sound was intimidating wait until you hear the SPAS12's extra "cla clunk" it adds to pumping.

If you can find a spas parts kit (complete) you can convert a spas 12. From the receiver back their pretty much the same gun. You swap the gas piston and barrel, done.

Do you mean covert from a SPAS-12 to a LAW-12? Why are LAW-12 so much cheaper than the SPAS-12? Weren't they both banned from import? Is it just because the SPAS-12 is just more sought after?

Sorry, convert a law 12 to a spas 12. Swap the bolt, gas system, and barrel. It helps if you already have a SPAS 12 to use as a reference.

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hardataq Thank you.

Kevin Wiltshire $2,000 or more is what I always seen them for for the folding stock version. The fixed stocks ones are cheaper from $1,600-$1,800. You’ll have to look and search online or go to your local gun show and see what a person offers for it. But remember that they are old shotguns so you might want to check the condition before buying it.

@@eabdic1thank you for the info

That's pretty true. Since it's an autoloading shotgun it has to have a recoil spring, so when you pump it you're working against that recoil spring that any other pump shotgun wouldn't have. Since the pump is more of a "bonus feature" than it's main purpose, most people don't use it unless they're wanting to shoot cheap ammo.

I believe just by cycling the bolt from its lever instead of the pump handle