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Speakers: Ceramic, Alnico, and Electrodynamic....a Basic Discussion

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Uncle Doug

Uncle Doug

10 жыл бұрын

This video is a basic discussion of the construction and function of three types of audio speakers: Ceramic, Alnico, and Electrodynamic. Topics include voice coils, wattage, impedance vs resistance, electromagnet vs permanent magnet, voice coil testing, effects of signal polarity on cone motion, field coils, and humbucking coils. To demonstrate construction principles, a speaker is dissected and the component parts are examined and explained. This presentation is best suited to individuals seeking a basic understanding of audio speakers.
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@quarryfield
@quarryfield 7 жыл бұрын
I just learned more about speakers in 25 minutes that I have in all my 62 years of doing other stuff. Thanks, Uncle Doug and Rusty :-)
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 7 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, QF. We're glad the videos are informative :)
@jaysorensenIBEW
@jaysorensenIBEW Жыл бұрын
Absolutely, same here. Just took the right guy to come along.
@GRobLewis
@GRobLewis 4 жыл бұрын
A few things I learned working at Cerwin-Vega (many years ago): 1. We always called them "spiders" even though they don't look like arachnids. Interesting to learn the source of the term! Their main purpose isn't to keep dust out, but to keep the voice coil centered in the magnetic gap. 2. Besides burning out the voice coil, another cause of failure due to excessive power is overexcursion, which can cause the voice coil form to "bottom" in the magnetic structure, often ruining it (you'll typically hear a loud "crack" if this happens). Open-back cabinets do nothing to prevent this, though you're right that the stiff suspensions of guitar speakers make it less likely. Still, playing a bass with a powerful amplifier through guitar speakers in an open-back cabinet is inviting trouble! 3. Overheating the voice coil may not melt the wire, but it can soften or burn the glue holding the coil together, allowing the coil to "throw a winding" into the gap. Time for a new voice coil. 4. Magnet size by itself is overrated. My boss used to ridicule the ceramic magnets found in cheap speakers as "dried mud". They could advertise heavy magnets when what actually matters is magnetic field strength.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent comments, Rob. I had a personal experience with #3 fairly recently. Thanks !!
@KittraKittra
@KittraKittra Жыл бұрын
Fascinating.
@damonztube1
@damonztube1 5 жыл бұрын
Your Presentation of "Speakers: Ceramic, Alnico, Electrodynamic....a Basic Discussion" is excellent I've been on a quest to discover the reason behind the magic of Alnico magnets I climbed to top of the mountain to receive wisdom and Uncle Doug bestowed Thank you
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
It was a pleasure, Damon. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
@renemichelnunes
@renemichelnunes 10 жыл бұрын
I can not resist the charm of the old bad boys and his tones... this is precious info thanks Doug and Rusty with your wishbone :)
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 10 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Rene. We're glad you enjoyed the video :) ^. .^
@TheCarablanco
@TheCarablanco 10 жыл бұрын
Y'know, I thought I knew just a little bit about speakers after modifying or replacing elements in almost every speaker system I've owned over the past 40 years. Doug, you beat me with a stick, and gladly so. I had no idea how in-depth one could get in this oh-so-not-sometimes-esoteric medium. Hats off to you, sir! ~ S ~
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 10 жыл бұрын
Wow....thanks so much, TC. Rusty and I really appreciate your kind appraisal, and wish you all the best (or "beast" in Rusty's case :)
@TheCarablanco
@TheCarablanco 10 жыл бұрын
Uncle Doug You recall our exchange concerning those old ceramics out of your previous project. You are absolutely right, they don't hold their age at all. Somehow I was hoping that . . . never mind. It is what it is.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 10 жыл бұрын
Greetings, "Paleface" (if my rudimentary Spanish is correct). Yes, I recall your inquiry about the Newcomb speakers. I believe they are a good example of speakers designed purely for midrange, with small voice coils & magnets, and cones with rather soft suspension. Which is fitting, since the Newcomb E-20 was a public address amp. On their best day, they were probably incapable of accurately portraying frequencies below 200 or 300Hz. This is not a result of their age, but rather their design. On the other hand, the Jensen C12Q in the video is quite the opposite. Once the voice coil has been replaced and despite its age, it will function as well (or better) than many new speakers, due to its significantly larger VC & ceramic magnet, and much stouter cone suspension.
@bullthrush
@bullthrush 10 жыл бұрын
Understanding is a wonderful thing, and your videos bring it to a new level. Rusty must have underestimated how much more there is to learn about speakers.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks, BT. Like most 16-year-old's, Rusty thinks he knows it all.....and that the world revolves around HIM. Hopefully, SOME day he'll grow up, move out, and get a job. THEN he'll discover how little he REALLY knows.....Oops, sorry, I had a flashback to a family discussion back in 1963 :))
@noreaction1
@noreaction1 7 жыл бұрын
Your videos inspire me to learn electrical engineering on the free MIT courseware online. You're a very good teacher
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, NR. By all means, pursue your goals.
@daveogarf
@daveogarf 5 жыл бұрын
LOL! Back in the '60s, I built my own speaker cabinet with a Lafayette 15' woofer and a mid-horn and horn tweeter. The woofer looked just like the speaker featured at the very beginning of this vlog! What a nice memory trigger - Thanks!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Dave :)
@Skellingtor
@Skellingtor 3 жыл бұрын
This helped me save a pair of vintage pioneer speakers destined for the dump. One dead tweeter and one dead 12inch sub in the other. Found replacement coils and followed Uncle Doug's video and got them back up and running.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 3 жыл бұрын
That's great to hear, S.
@2angelitolv
@2angelitolv 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you Doug for taking the time to make these videos. They are very enlightening for us, the amateurs.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 8 жыл бұрын
+Angel Escobar You're welcome, Angel. I'm glad the videos are helpful :)
@timothyandrews2157
@timothyandrews2157 3 ай бұрын
I don't know how I missed this one Uncle Doug, but now 9 years later I've enjoyed this vid. as much as if I'd seen it then.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 3 ай бұрын
Glad to hear it, Tim. Thanks for watching :)
@billvrijens306
@billvrijens306 7 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful presentation. A pleasure to watch and listen to.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, Bill. Rusty and I really appreciate your nice comments.
@theHAL9000
@theHAL9000 4 жыл бұрын
Not even sure how I came to watching this video but so interesting and well presented. Have much better general understanding of speakers and that makes for 20 mins. very well spent. Thanks!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, Hal.
@andrewpearce5477
@andrewpearce5477 8 жыл бұрын
My son and I love your channel. Great information.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 8 жыл бұрын
+Andrew Pearce Thanks, Andrew. Rusty and I send you and your son our best regards.
@Barracuda48082
@Barracuda48082 5 жыл бұрын
I started my hobby with several name brand tube televisions and radios from the forties, fifties, early sixties. Hunts, Arvin, Whitney and some of the call letters of the station were embossed on the old ivory buttons. Most of these vintage units contained electro magnet or dynamic field coils and the sound was amazing. During that era..I came across a type of tweeter on a tube hifidelity radio turntable unit that I had never seen...a thin curved or arc of metal mounted to a flex plate with what looked like either carbon fiber or bakelite fingers behind the arc that had one wire connected to the arc and one the the carbon fingered bracket. A huge transformer was mounted on the 12" speaker and fed both the woofer and this unique tweeter through what I read as a non polarized capacitor and a ceramic wire wound resistor with a n adjustable slide ring wiper, which may have been the beginning designs of r c filtering?? My guess circa 1958, 1960 ..no loctal or octal tubes for dating..all 7 and 9 pin if I recall correct. 6beg, 6bag, 6v6g, 12ax7 philco and sylvania tubes. Now nearing retirement the itch is back to restore some of these older recievers and maybe ham radio versions.. who knows. I posses a set of vintage hard bound tv radio repair cyclopedias and manuals from the early fifties an pristeen shape that is up for grabs..
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
That tweeter sounds like quite a piece of engineering, Gary.....almost like a mini-plate-reverb for high frequencies :) Thanks for your interesting comments. Perhaps a viewer will be interested in your offer of manuals and books. Best of luck.
@L.Scott_Music
@L.Scott_Music 7 жыл бұрын
Got a full life with so much to do... and it just got fuller after discovering this channel. Uh oh.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 7 жыл бұрын
Join the club, LS. Rusty and I are busy from dawn to dusk, and never seem to be finished.
@JoseCavendish
@JoseCavendish 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Uncle Doug. Your videos have been so useful to me. I restored my dad old technics speakers. Thanks for your time and teachings.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Jose. We're glad the video was helpful.
@BicycleJoeTomasello
@BicycleJoeTomasello 3 жыл бұрын
A classic Uncle Doug, miss Rusty. I love your new format. Time marches on! A humbucker coil, you learn something every day.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Joe. Glad you enjoyed it :)
@VegasCyclingFreak
@VegasCyclingFreak 7 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video, I didn't know much about those old field coil speakers until I watched this.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 7 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it, VC :)
@barnabyjones8333
@barnabyjones8333 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this and all your videos. They/you rock! My first amp as a kid was a cheap tube amp (maybe Danelectro) with an 8" speaker with a transformer attached to it. I decided to stuff a 12" 8 ohm speaker in the cabinet with no knowledge of matching the circuit. No idea what that little transformer was for. Turned it on and rocked out for about ten minutes until the amp smoked itself to silence. Great fleeting sound! Ha ha
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 4 жыл бұрын
A lesson learned about matching speaker to OPT impedance :)
@Woodys_Hobbies
@Woodys_Hobbies 2 жыл бұрын
You're a great teacher Uncle Doug!!!! Thank you!!!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the nice comment, Woody.
@DaMaxchi
@DaMaxchi 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for creating/posting this video. In the past, I tried to read about speaker design but had a tough time visualizing and interpreting the typical speaker cutaway drawings that you see in books. Your video is so much more effective in explaining the various speaker components. Well done!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 8 жыл бұрын
+DaMaxchi You're welcome, DM. Rusty and I are really glad the videos are helpful.
@billmoran3812
@billmoran3812 8 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid, my dad wanted to wire remote speakers to out old RCA radio/phono. I remember it had a transformer and a wound magnet coil on the speaker, so I didn't mess with it. I finally learned how those old speakers worked! Thanks for a great video.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 8 жыл бұрын
+Bill Moran You're welcome, Bill. We're glad the video was helpful :)
@compulsor5853
@compulsor5853 9 жыл бұрын
As always, thank you for taking the time and effort to produce these videos for all of us eager learners, you're a great resource for all of us want to be luthiers and amp Smyrhe's! Wonderful job.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 9 жыл бұрын
Compulsor You're welcome. Thanks for all the kind words. Rusty and I are glad you enjoy our videos.
@rayvoorhies7180
@rayvoorhies7180 5 жыл бұрын
I just stumbled across this video. I learned a lot. We need a part two on horns and tweeters. Usually the tweeter burns out first in a bookshelf speaker. The better bass guitar cabs have horns. Some trivia. I grew up in Hope AR (25 miles from Texarkana) a mile from the original Klipsch company. This was early 70's not too long after he started. I had no idea what revolutionary speakers Paul Klipsch designed. What a wasted opportunity to beg for a job, any job just to be around this man and his work. At that time, Klipsch was in a run down, area of old, empty warehouses and a chicken processing plant. I used to play in and explore those abandoned warehouses. I don't know if Klipsch has moved since then. I'd assume they probably have.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
I agree, Ray, about the lost opportunity to learn from the master. I specialize purely in vintage guitar amps and circuits, so I'm probably not the best source of videos on HiFi accoutrements, but I will keep your suggestion in mind for the future. Thanks !!!
@Terribleguitarist89
@Terribleguitarist89 2 жыл бұрын
I love these videos, and the fact that you sound like my Uncle Roger who got me into Amateur Radio and guitar amp teching only makes them that much better.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, TG. Glad to hear it :)
@EDKguy
@EDKguy 8 жыл бұрын
The talk of turkey magnet sandwich and can of tuna is making me hungry! Great video! I appreciate you sharing your knowledge and I like your sense of humor too.
@leomonster1973
@leomonster1973 Жыл бұрын
Today I learned what a field coil is.... Thank you Uncle Doug
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug Жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Rick.
@seankerrigan1627
@seankerrigan1627 6 жыл бұрын
Oh man I love this stuff... basically I'm having to endure my own ignorance, realise the weight of it as both an impeller and a detractor. I haven't done this stuff for ages and, with that chasm of time between, on one hand it's almost as if I've given myself a time for the ideas to actually be understood but at the same time realise a sense of stubbornness I'd used to bolster myself, back in those dim and dark days, just to go forward. Gosh... let's hope this time around I take more time to appreciate the ignorance I undoubtedly have now and use it to find that sense of intuition where I might know it's actually making other futures even more difficult... maybe that's what wisedom and humility actually are? Cheers utmostly Mr Uncle Doug! As an aside I did some pickup making way back then, any old wire and any old magnet, but I did kinda notice a difference within the makeups of different magnets creating fields. Alnico, as it were, seemed somewhat more attune to the human ear and felt unable to be precise as frequency went both higher and lower whereas something like neodinium, those little pellets of it were starting to become available, felt more precise in the sense that in something like a bass pickup it was very much able to give clear lows whilst also bringing a very clear 'fingerwork' sense, but in the mids it felt sterile ... interesting.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your ruminations, Sean. Best of luck with your renewed interest in speakers and tube amplification.
@cornhuskbag
@cornhuskbag 10 жыл бұрын
Hi Uncle Doug and Rusty, Wow, another great video, Rusty obviously already knows to much about speakers. It is a good thing the cones are made of paper rather then rawhide, vellum, and or held together with hide glue! Any how, thanks a lot for this video. All generations today are fortunate to have a person like you who takes the time to educate! I wish there was another way other than using words to thank you? Kind Regards, Steve
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, Steve. It's always great to hear from you. Yes, it is indeed quite fortunate that speakers and Tolex aren't made of tasty, chewable material.....Rusty would probably have eaten my collection by now.
@denniswalsh8476
@denniswalsh8476 8 жыл бұрын
Great video..... this is fun stuff. Possible orgin of using the term "spider" for the speaker's rear suspension. In the world of round mechanical stuff.... the occasional part the manufacturer may call a "spider" is usually a device that's a round part, usually with legs from the larger diameter OD rim to the smaller duameter ID hub, (like a wagon wheel). A solid, disk-like part, without the legs, is usually called a diaphragm. The most common function of either is keeping inner parts and outer parts aligned concentrically. A speaker spider's primary function is to keep the coil former centered in the magnet's annulus and concentrically aligned with the rear speaker frame (and allows normal cone travel). The speaker's sorround or front suspension maintains the concentric alignment of the front of the speaker cone ( and travel). The very old open speaker spiders MAY have allowed the voice coils to run a little cooler.... but the coil former was exposed, dust and dirt could eventually be an issue. New disk style fiber "spiders" close that path to dust and dirt.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 8 жыл бұрын
+dennis walsh Thanks, Dennis, and thank you for the very informative input.
@BrandonBuckaudioanarchy
@BrandonBuckaudioanarchy 6 жыл бұрын
A couple of niggling clarifications. The material used for suspension at the outside of the frame is called the surround, whether it's foam or paper or cloth. And the cloth wires used to attach the coil wires to the terminals are called tinsel leads. And I've enjoyed your videos thus far. Keep up the good work!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Brandon. We will :)
@boboala1
@boboala1 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting & informative! One thing I've always wondered about AC waveforms ending up pushing/pulling a cardboard cone is the conveyance of 'Timbre'. I understand harmonics & sound synthesis, but still, on an old vinyl LP, how does an oboe or piccolo tone come thru with strings & horns, with just a needle scraping sides/going up/down? Analogous, yes. But still, 1 needle or 1 read head or 1 bitstream ultimately goes to paper cones pushing air against my eardrums. Oboe timbre still there. Miraculous! God does love us!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. It is indeed miraculous, Bob.
@jayster.k.wiseguy
@jayster.k.wiseguy 3 жыл бұрын
that was a very loving approach to what we always have wondered~ pressure needed, or we have failures, sorta like backpressure for the engine~
@Elix1rify
@Elix1rify 10 жыл бұрын
Yes! Fantastic! I've actually just gone deep into the speaker-world.. This will be a joy to watch!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 10 жыл бұрын
Have a safe trip, Elix.....I hope it's an enjoyable one :))
@Elix1rify
@Elix1rify 10 жыл бұрын
Uncle Doug This was great. Nice Jensen save! Thank you for putting this video together! :)
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 10 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Elix......glad you enjoyed it :)
@jlucasound
@jlucasound 10 жыл бұрын
Already have one! (Beer). That was me! Thanks Uncle Doug.
@huberttremaine8343
@huberttremaine8343 10 жыл бұрын
Wow! Great Video! I just hope you don't run out of subjects to cover. Another 100 won't be too much to ask for, would it? When I was in Tronics school I worked a summer at a Goodwill reclaim action center in the electronics dept. I was always working on tube radios and TVs. One day a pair of beautiful Altec home stereo speakers came in and I tested them and found nothing wrong. So I boxed them up and send them to the store(in the same building) that my first wife worked at and at lunch told her to buy them for us. When I got off work I went to the store to get the speakers, my first wife told me this story. A man came in to the store and saw the speakers and asked if he could hook them up to see if they worked. He was asked if he knew how to test them the correct way and he replied he did, so he was left alone to try them out. A short time later my wife heard a loud pop and some of the lights in the shop went out so she ran to see what it was and after the smoke went away she found the man had cut off one end of an extension cord and had put the bare wires on the speaker terminals and plugged the other end in to a near by wall outlet. We'll my wife asked if he was gonna pay for the speaker and he replied, No! This speaker don't work! Thanks for these incredible videos. And tell Rusty to slow down on his chewing. Don't want him to lose his teeth!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 10 жыл бұрын
That was a great story, Hubert. I wonder if that guy is available to test some of my vintage speakers ?? What a lunatic.....everyone knows you have to use 220VAC to properly test speakers ;) It's always good to hear from you. Thanks for watching and posting a great comment.....I'll give Rusty your regards and warn him about proper dental care :)
@andyk295
@andyk295 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much-so very informative. I had an old 40's 35mm moviola editing machine that had an electrodynamic speaker and I nearly electrocuted myself checking it out. It had an exciter lamp tube that measured about 410 volts at one of the connections. I learned to leave it alone since it worked well enough. Very loud !! I didn't have a schematic or diagram of the components. Uncle Doug your videos are the best !!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, Andy. Be careful !!
@djvycious
@djvycious 9 жыл бұрын
This video, like your others, is so informative and in a short period of time has taught me so much about how guitar amplifiers work. You rock Uncle Doug!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 9 жыл бұрын
Cameron Walker Thanks, Cameron. Rusty and I are glad you're enjoying our videos. Best of luck with your continued study of tube amps :)
@TucsonBillD
@TucsonBillD 8 жыл бұрын
As usual, another well done explanation, Doug. And that Lafayette speaker really takes me back (about 50 or so years...). Keep up the good work!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 8 жыл бұрын
+Bill Daniels Thanks, Bill.....glad you enjoyed it :)
@howardskinner4916
@howardskinner4916 2 жыл бұрын
A bit of dirt or rust in the voice coil can completely stop a speaker from working. A New Year's eve gig in a small town in Wyoming was almost affected by such a thing. The horn of a PA speaker stopped working. No replacement was available. I carefully removed the driver from the horn and sprayed electronic cleaner into it because it was all I had. I re-assembled the horn and much to my surprise it worked! It worked for the rest of that tour, too. Be prepared!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 2 жыл бұрын
Good point and an excellent on-site repair, Howard. Thanks !!!
@GaitaPonto
@GaitaPonto 8 жыл бұрын
Great video. I wish I watched it a couple of years earlier, when I was trying to identify the speaker that came in my Victor projector speaker cabinet.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 8 жыл бұрын
+Gaita Ponto Thanks, GP.....glad you enjoyed it :)
@budandbean1
@budandbean1 10 жыл бұрын
Another super video Uncle Doug. Up to now I thought I knew about speakers. Turns out I had a general idea and that came from my class books oh, thirty years ago. This is great info to have! Thanks Uncle Doug,
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 10 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Buddy. Rusty and I are glad to hear that the video was helpful and informative. Thanks for watching !!!
@budandbean1
@budandbean1 10 жыл бұрын
Hey Uncle Doug, as I was looking at some of the schematics and was wondering if you had done a video on Chokes and how they work. I'd love to see one like your Power Transformer video. Thanks, -buddy
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 10 жыл бұрын
Buddy, filter chokes are simply coils of wire that act as inductors by creating a magnetic field which blocks the passage of alternating current while allowing direct current to pass easily. They are used in the power supply to smooth out AC ripple in the rectified high voltage DC that is going to the tube plates.
@kosborne1963
@kosborne1963 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you SO much for posting these vids. It's like a college course conducted by a particularly interesting professor.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 10 жыл бұрын
You're quite welcome, Ken. I'm glad you're enjoying the videos, and really appreciate the kind words :)
@barryseaman7863
@barryseaman7863 9 жыл бұрын
Very informative.I worked for Radio Shack nearly 40 years ago and never got very much of the theory side of speakers. interesting to see an RS speaker in the video.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 9 жыл бұрын
Barry Seaman Thanks, Barry. Glad you liked it :)
@tubical71
@tubical71 10 жыл бұрын
As for 13:50 and up, this is *very* true for especially Vintage speakers. Some of them just have 4 screw-holes even when they are 12 inch diameter speakers.... So be save and tight it up very gentle and always tight it up cross sides. Thanks for this little but major detail description:)
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 10 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, TC. I found this out "the hard way" a long time ago. Even a minor bend in the speaker basket can result in non-alignment of the voice coil.
@kindanyume
@kindanyume Жыл бұрын
NIce vid for beginners.. they can learn a ton for older equipment in short order from this video format. won't make them experts etc but thats hardly the idea.. it will easily help educate newbs however which is a big bonus imo
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug Жыл бұрын
Thanks, K2 :)
@hoofbags
@hoofbags 8 жыл бұрын
Hi Uncle Doug. This is an extremely interesting movie. I learned so much by watching it. I never really took much notice of speakers before, just check that the impedance is correct and usually looking for as big a magnet as possible. You mention that alnico magnet speakers are more expensive to produce, and I now know why. I build battery valve amplifiers of small wattage and I fitted a ceramic speaker into the cabinet. I wasn't very impressed with the volume of my latest build. I found an alnico speaker of similar dimensions, ohmage, and connected it externally to the amp: a considerable increase in volume resulted. Alnico are clearly more sensitive than ceramic in most instances, it would seem. I can't fit the alnico into the cabinet, unfortunately because, although the frame hole spaces are identical, the magnet protrudes out towards the back, making it impossible to close the cabinet. Thank you so very much for the very useful information. I will subscribe. (o:
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 8 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, HB. We're glad the video was helpful. Thanks for watching and subscribing :)
@CassetteMaster
@CassetteMaster 7 жыл бұрын
Very nice presentation! Another interesting speaker type is the balanced-armature.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, CM. I am not acquainted with the speaker you mentioned.
@brainseagle
@brainseagle 10 жыл бұрын
well appreciate the presentation and learning of the filter choke use of the field coil and the humbucker. The independent power supply in field coil radio cabinets are a bit daunting. Inspiring stuff, look forward to more.. Appreciate the knowledge being shared. Thanks.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 10 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Anthony. I'm glad you enjoyed the video :)
@MrMac5150
@MrMac5150 9 жыл бұрын
The best videos I have ever seen. thumbs up.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, Mr. Mac. Rusty and I are glad you enjoy our videos :)
@MrMac5150
@MrMac5150 9 жыл бұрын
Fantastic
@jeremyhuet8408
@jeremyhuet8408 7 жыл бұрын
I always thought the name "Spider" was coming from "Spider web", because it act like a spider web with the spider (the voice coil) in the center, waving but acting like a suspention. And like always, thanks for all the videos, I'm curently re-watching all the videos! ;)
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 7 жыл бұрын
I tend to agree with your explanation for the application of the word "spider", Jeremy. In early speakers, the spider had multiple curved arms to hold the voice coil, and did indeed look like an arachnid swirling while being flushed down the toilet.
@subjectiveone1937
@subjectiveone1937 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Uncle Doug! You taught this layman some interesting speaker knowledge that I hadn't known before. I came across a pair of JBL 4312 Control Monitor speakers and my mind started wondering about how these things worked.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Hopefully, now you know how they work, SO :)
@yaboymintz
@yaboymintz 10 жыл бұрын
Despite the fact I am too clumsy to work on my own amps (I wouldn't dream of doing anything my 64 Concert myself,) I enjoy watching your videos and learning the technical aspects about the gear I love!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 10 жыл бұрын
Greetings, MDM. I'm a great fan of Fender Concert amps, particularly the earlier models.....you're a lucky guy to have one. Take care of it and by all means don't feel compelled to work on it if you're not comfortable doing so. Thanks for watching !!! :) ^. .^
@davea.8499
@davea.8499 9 жыл бұрын
ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO WATCH YOUR CLASS/LECTURES.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, HA. Rusty and I appreciate your interest and input :)
@davea.8499
@davea.8499 9 жыл бұрын
I have an old Jenson alnico speaker that I am going to try that voice coil surgery that you mentioned..great idea wish me luck.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 9 жыл бұрын
Good luck, HA :)
@davea.8499
@davea.8499 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ill need it.
@jungblutjm
@jungblutjm 8 жыл бұрын
Excellent Excellent Excellent!!! Rarely seen such a great educational value.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, J-M. Rusty and I really appreciate your nice comments :)
@knoxpruett1889
@knoxpruett1889 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent indeed!
@davo171
@davo171 10 жыл бұрын
Another outstanding informative and entertaining video. I think much of "electronics for guitarists" is watered down and often incorrect-its a pleasure to watch your videos, good info is worth its weight in gold. I've become a vintage speaker junkie, and although they look cool and are historically accurate-its really all about the sound they get. I wonder if modern manufacturing would even be capable of making such speakers these days. I think back to all those vintage recordings I love, and on occasion when I get that sound with old speakers/amp's-you kinda know you are hearing the real thing as it was made to be heard. Keep up the good work, Im moving on to your speaker repair video next.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, Davo. It's great to hear that the videos are helpful and informative. I agree that the old, original speakers do capture the vintage sound we love to hear.
@professortwang
@professortwang 10 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video you are a master teacher! You talk about the decision to move from alnico to ceramic as being a financial one. I also read that alnico contained strategic metal that was in short supply during WWII which contributed to the need for another magnet type.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, Troy. You make an excellent point about the limited availability of the Nickel, Cobalt, and Aluminum during the war, and the fact that after the war, the Ni and Co were primarily available from countries with controversial labor practices (see Adam Rainstopper's comment below). Both of these factors provided additional impetus for the shift to ceramic magnets....and the continued expense of obtaining these materials probably contributes to the high cost of Alnico magnets and speakers today.
@fartknocker132
@fartknocker132 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for these videos Uncle Doug. I love my JBL D120s and EVs etc. in my guitar amps......but always wanted to know how the heck they work...now I know!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, FK :)
@BertusJ
@BertusJ 10 жыл бұрын
always insightful videos, thanks Doug and Rusty
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 10 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Bert, and thank you for the kind words :)
@jaym4958
@jaym4958 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing a lot of the little unknowns, just thank you.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 4 жыл бұрын
My pleasure, Jay :)
@JoelzombieThomas
@JoelzombieThomas 8 жыл бұрын
I wanted to let you know I love the emphatic chopstick and finger tapping when you point at things while you're talking about it. It shows a healthy level of obsession. Keep it up! Oh, and thanks for finally explaining the way a field coil works. Next I'll be curious to learn the specific need and purpose for filter chokes in certain amp circuits since you pointed out the field coil speakers double as filter chokes. Also I must check into why the hum bucking coils don't cancel each others' electromagnetism if they cancel one another's hum...
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Joel......I guess I was a percussionist in a previous life :) Coils offer impedance to AC, but allow DC to pass freely.....thus they are of great value when trying to produce clean DC and resist and/or eliminate the unwanted AC ripple (hum). Hum bucking coils work just like output transformer windings in push-pull amps to eliminate or reduce hum. Since the hum is present at the same frequency in each of the out-of-phase windings, it tends to cancel itself out. Electromagnetism is not affected by this......both fields coexist.
@billd3692
@billd3692 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent videos, I really appreciate hearing the history of how the magnetics evolved. Interesting info on the hum-bucker coil.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Bill......glad you enjoyed the video.
@tonykennedy9798
@tonykennedy9798 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you Doug that makes perfect sense now. My plan is to build it as a 2x12. I will therefore buy 2, 16 ohm speakers and dispense with the extra speaker jack. I had not noticed the disconnect on the second jack when an extra speaker is input. I guess there is a lot of conflicting advice on the net. I do however, trust the numbers and your explanation. Many thanks and kindest regards from the UK.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 8 жыл бұрын
+Tony Kennedy You're welcome, Tony. If you intend to build it as a 2 x12, then two 16 ohm speakers in parallel would be perfect. It's always best to have a proper impedance match between output tubes, output transformer, and speaker(s).....no matter what some people may advise on the net. If they want to take chances, then so be it, but it's irresponsible when they encourage others to do so too.
@johngeddes7894
@johngeddes7894 5 жыл бұрын
A very thorough overview!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, John :)
@volvo09
@volvo09 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome info with the early spider design!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it, V09.
@ScottTheNews
@ScottTheNews 8 жыл бұрын
Excelant description of speaker types! Thank you!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 8 жыл бұрын
+ScottTheNews You're welcome, Scott.....glad you liked it :)
@nickvanmaarth680
@nickvanmaarth680 9 жыл бұрын
Fascinating stuff! I was looking for info about the speakers in my Music Man 210 HD 130. Thanx very much for a great class. :-)
@matux111
@matux111 3 жыл бұрын
so f* good description about how a speaker works... nice to got here and learned more about them in such a very precised way, thank U 4 posted it!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Aldo. Glad you enjoyed it :)
@alvagoldbook2
@alvagoldbook2 10 жыл бұрын
Another great and very informative video, Uncle D! I've never heard of electrodynamic speakers before! A very cool history lesson!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 10 жыл бұрын
Greetings, Alva. It's always good to hear from you. Now, when you look at the speakers in many old radios, jukeboxes, and amps you will know why they have four wires instead of two :))
@alessandroattianese1830
@alessandroattianese1830 4 жыл бұрын
Instructive, interesting and nice video. Thank you very much! Grazie ❤
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it, AA. Be sure to subscribe to receive new video alerts.
@ronniewall1481
@ronniewall1481 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice job sir
@williambock1821
@williambock1821 3 жыл бұрын
Well, Uncle Doug, I found out what was causing the buzzing on low A and E notes. Bad news..I bought a brand new Weber 12 alnico and proceeded to warp the heck out of it! I really didn’t think I tightened it too much. Good news... I rotated it 90 degrees and tightened it not as much and it works great ! I really didn’t warp it much. I exaggerated for effect. But I can make use of the raw volume of my Ao 44 and the pine cab I built for the Weber ,now! They all sound great together.Almost TOO good. Feel like I shoulda paid about $500 more than I did for the rig! Stay safe out there!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for confirming the need to avoid over-tightening speaker-retention screws/nuts, William. It's a common problem and must be avoided.....as you discovered. I'm glad it all ended well.
@williambock1821
@williambock1821 3 жыл бұрын
@@UncleDoug I read that Weber has extremely tight tolerances in their speakers. It’s what makes them sound good but it’s also what makes them prone to easily warping from being overtightened. Doesn’t take much at all. Luckily I just slightly over tightened. Could’ve been much worse. Rotating the speaker evened it back out.
@chrisfite6217
@chrisfite6217 9 жыл бұрын
Awesome. I learned a ton! Thank you for sharing.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 9 жыл бұрын
Chris Fite You're welcome, Chris. Glad you liked it :)
@GREGLUHOWY
@GREGLUHOWY 10 жыл бұрын
Once again, Very Informative & straight forward explanation.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, Greg. Glad you liked it :)
@Melonheadinbed
@Melonheadinbed 10 жыл бұрын
Doug. I just wanna say how great these videos are. I can't kiss enough butt. you know they are informative but they also are a grand departure from the usual self subservient fodder put forth by my fellow Generation Y'ers. on a personal note, I suffered an incredible personal tragedy this year and have enjoyed the comfort your videos ( and voice ) have brought me in tough times. I usually watch them late at night on my iPhone and have viewed almost every one. it feels good to get the mind on other things. I write this as my infant daughter lays next to me. she just fell asleep watching this video. apparently she comes from the Rusty school of compliments. anyways. thanks, and keep them coming.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, MH. At my age, I'll take whatever kisses (and compliments) I can get :))) On a more serious note, I'm sorry to hear of your recent tribulation, and am glad that my videos have been helpful and comforting. Rusty and I wish you and your infant daughter the very best.......
@fooser77
@fooser77 9 жыл бұрын
Grab a beer, sit down and enjoy! I knew I was going to like this video, even before it started ..
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 9 жыл бұрын
fooser77 I hope you enjoyed it.....and the beer :)
@fooser77
@fooser77 9 жыл бұрын
Certainly did. I have a VS100 Combo (Marshall). It has a 12 " Celestion Gold 100w (90s) in an open box. I plan to pair with at least another 12" 100w in a closed/semi open box. I'm told that this combo can power a full stack of 4X12s. I'm just a studio player in a residential. Don't want to scare too many dogs, especially my own. Oh, still enjoying the beer. Doug, are you a retired EE by chance?
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 9 жыл бұрын
Rusty is definitely relieved that no dogs will be scared :) No, I'm just a self-taught enthusiast who developed a strong interest in vintage amps a few years ago and set out to learn all I could about them. The result was a nice collection of amps and a part time job, repairing them for musicians and collectors.
@dwightward4956
@dwightward4956 Жыл бұрын
Well done, and very informative. Thank you.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug Жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Dwight.
@OfficialSERFATRON
@OfficialSERFATRON 5 жыл бұрын
This feels like a master class, thank you for sharing your genius.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, OS. Thanks !!!
@Qassu78
@Qassu78 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video Uncle Doug! Concider me stupid but I really did learn something new. I had no idea that electrodynamics were used before permanent magnets. For me electrodynamics have always meant those huge flat high-voltage grinding electrostatic panels.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 9 жыл бұрын
Hammu78 You're welcome, Hammu. I would never consider anyone stupid who actively seeks knowledge. Rusty and I are glad you found the video informative. Thanks for watching :)
@Leftlanedave
@Leftlanedave 10 жыл бұрын
Love all your videos uncle Doug your a great teacher sir!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Dave. I'm glad you're enjoying the videos :)
@bigdicky11
@bigdicky11 10 жыл бұрын
Great vid as usual Uncle Doug.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, Richard. We're glad you liked it :) ^. .^
@felixred3261
@felixred3261 9 жыл бұрын
Great content Mr. Dough. Appreciate it man.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 9 жыл бұрын
Felix Red Thanks, Felix. Glad you liked it :)
@felixred3261
@felixred3261 9 жыл бұрын
Uncle Doug You're welcome.
@williamstevens7090
@williamstevens7090 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, why didn't I know all of these things? Thanks, Doug.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 2 жыл бұрын
Well, you do now, William ;)
@erichelsinkimusic
@erichelsinkimusic 3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff, just what I was looking for. Thanls for upload!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Eric :)
@FransvandenBergeMuziekschuur
@FransvandenBergeMuziekschuur 8 жыл бұрын
This is a great explanation.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 8 жыл бұрын
+Frans van den Berge Thanks, Frans. Glad you liked it :)
@diversifieddame9682
@diversifieddame9682 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you, that was really neat... I learned so much about speakers and their history just now from you :)
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 6 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, DD :)
@RPSJR100
@RPSJR100 9 жыл бұрын
I have the same Lafayette speakers like the one u opened with got them in a set w a Lafayette pa tube amp that sat in the bottom of the speaker boxes that clamp shut when put together to make one big speaker box fyi thanx for all the info for me to learn i appreciate your good work
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 9 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, SR. It seems like a good speaker.....very well made. I wish it had come with an amp, like yours. Best of luck :)
@Graywoolf25
@Graywoolf25 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I really appreciate you spending time on making this video.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 5 жыл бұрын
It is our pleasure to do so, Pablo :)
@kolinevans9127
@kolinevans9127 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome and very inspirational thanks for sharing this.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it, Kolin :)
@guyanderton
@guyanderton 4 жыл бұрын
These videos are fascinating, really informative. Thank you so much for doing them.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Guy. We're glad you enjoy them.
@billdyke9745
@billdyke9745 4 жыл бұрын
I was going to add an after dinner speaker to my quiet, at home evening amp. Guess I'll rethink that... Gracias, señor.
@lust4bass
@lust4bass 8 жыл бұрын
WE thank you for the incredible amount of time & preparation you must need to compile such high quality, interesting videos. And I feel almost ashamed to post a comment since I see that, on top of that, you also take the time to respond to a lot of them ! I have only one question : I am going to replace a 15 speaker in a Fender Excelsior amp (the original speaker is very not very good and underpowered). Problem : this original speaker has no polarity mark. Is polarity relevant in a 1-speaker amp? (I've been told it doesnt, that I could put any wire on any terminal of a single speaker) , but if it does, how do I know which wire from the amp section is the hot one (they are both black) to connect to the new 15 Eminence (which does have a polarity marking) ? BTW, I started watching your canal by viewing your fine vid on pine cabinet construction, since the Excelsior baffle design actually bars maybe 1/5 of the speaker hole area. I might have to build another cabinet since I'm expecting some trouble with the new speaker which is not only better, but also much more powerful (100W against 15 w for the original speaker !). I suspect the greater air flow will need full free space to avoid any parasite vibration (I know from a previous similar experience). Cheers
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 8 жыл бұрын
+lust4bass You're welcome, L4. Hearing such nice comments from viewers makes it all worthwhile. Polarity does not matter with a single speaker. You can wire it either way with no noticeable effect. Instead of building a new cabinet, can you simply enlarge the hole in the front baffle? Thanks again for your nice comments and good luck with your modifications.
@lust4bass
@lust4bass 8 жыл бұрын
+Uncle Doug Thank you for your quick answer, Uncle Doug. Maybe you are not familiar with the Excelsior cabinet structure. The diameter is OK, it is the "Art Deco" bars in front of the whole that might cause a problem. I've read comments that upgrading the speaker could be followed by undesirable sounds/vibrations. We'll see anyway when I make the replacement, which I can make now that I have the useful info you've just given to me. Greetings.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 8 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, L4. Good luck.
@tarstarkusz
@tarstarkusz 5 жыл бұрын
+Uncle... Isn't the power going to the speaker doing the work of moving the cone? How much of that power is being lost to heat?
@Geopholus
@Geopholus 5 жыл бұрын
Actually speakers are not very efficient, only about 2 -5 %. EV's and JBLs can be close to 10%. In a way the sound itself can be considered increasing the heat of the air, because it is increasing the average velocity of the air... but the main loss is due to the long wavelengths of sound The wave length of 100 Hz for instance is around 11 feet . So the 1/4 wave distance is around 2ft and 7 inches., The speaker cone moves a lot and doesn't couple to the air,. also the amount of work that the magnetic fields can do, versus how much the electron flow just heats the wire.
@koprcord5338
@koprcord5338 3 жыл бұрын
Getting ready to try and find voice coils and cloth surrounds to try and fix the alnico woofers in my dads kenwood speakers from when he left the service. Hope to keep that original sound.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 3 жыл бұрын
Try the Speaker Exchange, KC. Good luck.
@koprcord5338
@koprcord5338 3 жыл бұрын
@@UncleDoug yes was just looking, matching the voice coil is going to be an issue. Only 45 watt speaker. Thanks for the instructional video and response.
@altonrex6495
@altonrex6495 8 жыл бұрын
This is the first of your videos I've seen... boy do I have some tube time in front of me now! Thanks so much for bringing the old school gear and theory into focus for us. p.s. now I know why I love my old 12' alnico Utah so much! lol
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 8 жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard, Alton. Only 139 videos to go :) You're welcome for the videos.....we're really glad you found our channel and hope you enjoy them all.
@tomwilliamson5287
@tomwilliamson5287 Жыл бұрын
Very informative well explained, thank you.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug Жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Tom.
@onemancarnage
@onemancarnage 10 жыл бұрын
As always great video, lots I didn't know about speakers. Very interesting. Thanks again.
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 10 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, Bryan. Glad you like it !! :)
@bigjohn75
@bigjohn75 10 жыл бұрын
another great vid uncle doug
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks, John.....glad you enjoyed it :)
@4425evergreen
@4425evergreen 3 жыл бұрын
What causes distortion to occur in the speaker. I like the celestial greenback for its distortion. Vs. the vaunted jobless e series which is crystal clear. Thank you for passing on your knowledge. Hi to the Jack!
@UncleDoug
@UncleDoug 3 жыл бұрын
I never thought that good speakers actually create distortion, Monte. Some break up sooner than others, but their job is to accurately portray the signals being sent to them.
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