Speeds & Feeds for Steel on the Lathe! WW171

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NYC CNC

NYC CNC

6 жыл бұрын

We're back at DeBolt Machine to compare turning 1018, 1045, 12L15 and 4140 steel on a 16" Lathe to learn about speeds & feed, lathe tooling, inserts, and surface finishes!
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Links for this video:
Debolt Machine: bit.ly/2iFGiKr
Alro: bit.ly/nycAlro
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Reach us / CNC Info:
Speeds & Feeds: provencut.com
Download Fusion 360: www.dpbolvw.net/click-9255839...
Online Fusion 360 Training: bit.ly/LearnFusion360
Hands-On CNC Classes: www.nyccnc.com/events
SMW Products: saundersmachineworks.com/
CNC Resources: www.nyccnc.com 5 Reasons to Use a Fixture Plate on Your CNC Machine: bit.ly/3sNA4uH

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@Steve_Just_Steve
@Steve_Just_Steve 6 жыл бұрын
This maybe my favorite video you've ever done. Paul is such a nice guy for helping you share this with us. Would have been nice to get a better look at the inserts themselves like maybe some closeup shots so we could see what the chipbreakers looked like but great post John, really enjoyed it and can't wait for part 2.
@nyccnc
@nyccnc 6 жыл бұрын
Steve - thanks, and agree - we'll make a better point to do that when we film next time.
@Pow3llMorgan
@Pow3llMorgan 6 жыл бұрын
Paul is an excellent teacher and John, you acted the virtuous student very well, namely with the intermittent chip sweeps :P But seriously, Paul is like machining god.
@antonmursid3505
@antonmursid3505 2 жыл бұрын
Antonmursid🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩✌👌
@wheelman007
@wheelman007 4 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say thanks. I must have watched this video 20+ times for a reference.
@michaele1201
@michaele1201 6 жыл бұрын
Hey John, Awesome !! there is a lot of wisdom introduced to the viewers in this video. Paul 's experience and your "curiosity" and ability to ask intelligent questions is a great combination. Well done!!
@nyccnc
@nyccnc 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@jorgefernandez184
@jorgefernandez184 6 жыл бұрын
As a machining student, thank you! These long videos with thoroughly explained details are incredibly helpful and educative. I definitely commit the typical beginner mistake of taking too light of a cut, haha. It was shocking for me to see cuts that are like 4 times deeper than what I usually limit myself to. Anyways, thanks once again John and Paul, excellent content. Cheers from Spain!
@larrysperling8801
@larrysperling8801 6 жыл бұрын
one of the best tutorials i have seen on carbide tooling. now we need a similar one geared toward the lighter home shop lathes. great job looking forward to the next installment
@michaelawuku1241
@michaelawuku1241 3 жыл бұрын
I really like how the old boy response to the questions. He don't rush to answer a question. I hope he works the same way
@floridasaltlife
@floridasaltlife 2 жыл бұрын
Paul is the very best of dudes !! I love this guys disposition, The way he shares and teaches at the same time is incredible. My lathe is smaller at a 12x36 2hp and sized right for my needs in scale model engine building but the concepts are scalable and the same. I really learned here. Million thanks to you.
@itsmebernie
@itsmebernie 4 жыл бұрын
This series of your videos is some of my favorite content of yours! I play them over and over to try to make it all part if my thinking. Thank you!!!
@bigbadbugga
@bigbadbugga 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys, I've learnt more about insert tooling in the first 14 minutes of this video than I learnt from 4 years of watching youtube machining videos.
@fredrosse
@fredrosse 4 жыл бұрын
Me too, and been machining stuff since 1960
@r.j.sworkshop7883
@r.j.sworkshop7883 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you John and Paul. I just got done watching this for the first time. Next time will be with a notepad. Your timing is excellent for me, I am expecting my new to me 16x40 in a few weeks and I have had my nose in every catalog that I could find reading up on insert tooling. Also, I noticed a round insert tool holder in the box of parts included with the machine, and I thought that it would be a novel little tool to have, now I am certainly going to take a much closer look at it. Great work and as said by others, I couldn't believe that 90 minutes went by so fast!! R.J.
@meocats
@meocats 6 жыл бұрын
give Paul another episode on drills in the lathe, all types of drills. he's the man!
@JShel14
@JShel14 6 жыл бұрын
So much knowledge dropped in this video. Thank you so much for sharing!
@jakegiubbini
@jakegiubbini 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys. I saved this video and refer back to it frequently at work. I shared this with my old machine school instructor and he now shares it with his classes.
@user-tw9io9nz2m
@user-tw9io9nz2m 6 жыл бұрын
I love it when you visit DeBolt
@ypaulbrown
@ypaulbrown 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative... didn't think I would make it all the way through, but after a few minutes I knew it would be great. I ran the same model lathe for over a year...made many unique parts. Well done Paul and John.....cheers, PB
@DavidHerscher
@DavidHerscher 2 жыл бұрын
This video is freaking legendary. I just learned so much. I'll be watching this at least 50 or 60 more times to soak in all the info.
@FredMiller
@FredMiller 6 жыл бұрын
Great stuff! I am going to have to watch this a THIRD time to really absorb it. Thanks Paul and John for taking the time to educate us. I am really looking forward to the next segments. All the best.... Fred Ontario, NY
@antshark
@antshark 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! Paul is so knowledgeable! Thank you John for creating this content.
@glenkelley6048
@glenkelley6048 4 жыл бұрын
THANKS SO MUCH GUYS, for knowing what you are doing. Machine tools make our world go around, and YOUR KNOWLEDGE and SKILLS make that possible. 'God Bless You BOTH!
@elcuhhh8761
@elcuhhh8761 6 жыл бұрын
These types of machining videos are my favorite
@billdoodson4232
@billdoodson4232 8 ай бұрын
I'm not a machinest, but have used machine tools and been responsible for purchase of tooling for them as part of my job as the Chief Engineer for a number of maintenance depts, mainly in the food and drink industries. I did quite a bit of research about 30 years ago on what might be the best all round tools and decided on the button and triangle inserts as being the ones that would cover most uses and be cost effective in an envirionment were we could be cutting 304, 316L and hot rolled mild steel within the same day. I still use these same inserts in my home workshop today and have to say that Sandvik have never let me down. Its nice to watch a video with a couple of real machinests, confirm that the choices I made as a total non expert all those years ago, were pretty well the correct ones.
@Tf9500
@Tf9500 6 жыл бұрын
That hour and a half went quick, great video with lots of hands on knowledge. Adding to my favorites, Thanks for all you do👍
@bostondan77
@bostondan77 6 жыл бұрын
Editing in your videos is top notch. Thank you.
@drienkm
@drienkm 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for doing this. I'm learning how much I didn't know about turning!
@sanforce
@sanforce 6 жыл бұрын
Planning on turning steel for the first time today ... great timing on the video!! Thanks.
@racekrasser7869
@racekrasser7869 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to work with and learn from this guy. We need more people like him in this world.
@MrRctintin
@MrRctintin 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, thankyou. I’d love to spend a few months working with that fella, he sure knows his stuff!!
@jimsvideos7201
@jimsvideos7201 6 жыл бұрын
Good on everyone who had a hand in making this! If you need SD cards I bought a heap for a vacation that didn't happen, you're welcome to a couple of them.
@vliberal
@vliberal 6 жыл бұрын
Awsome, i hope you find time to continue the comparison video, i am super excited to see the stainless.
@jimmilne19
@jimmilne19 6 жыл бұрын
Really, really helpful video. Super useful. Thankful here for the fine instruction. And, Paul, totally impressed with your knowledge and clear explanations. Thank you!
@mrechbreger
@mrechbreger 4 жыл бұрын
I like such videos, it shows people who really like what they do and try to get into the details. On the other side I know people who only do what you tell them, and when they're getting older ... they're getting lost because they have no one guiding them anymore.
@BradleyWilloughby
@BradleyWilloughby 6 жыл бұрын
There’s something so satisfying about watching a manual machine make chips compared to a CNC.
@ZPositive
@ZPositive 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, so much learned in just one video. Absolutely top notch content. The very reason KZfaq was created right here.
@nyccnc
@nyccnc 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@kennygee6627
@kennygee6627 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, PACKED with great info. Learned a lot on this one. Thank you!
@michaelhatch6283
@michaelhatch6283 5 жыл бұрын
I am coming to this video late but so much knowledge shared. Thank you both so much for this content. Awesome video.
@billherreid9661
@billherreid9661 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I need to watch this about 5 more times.
@samuelseager6785
@samuelseager6785 3 жыл бұрын
You would think that 1 1/2 hours would be too boring to get through, but I'm with you. This is a must re-watch.
@cffellows
@cffellows 6 жыл бұрын
Started out thinking OMG, and hour and half, this has got to be boring. Turns out, I watched the whole thing, and completely lost track of time. Great Video! I've long been familiar with Mr. DeBolt from his model engines./
@nyccnc
@nyccnc 6 жыл бұрын
AWESOME!
@bschurg3588
@bschurg3588 3 жыл бұрын
Oq
@ronaldwhite5887
@ronaldwhite5887 3 жыл бұрын
Well done, thanks I learned from your video that some cases you may not to break the chip completely if it is flowing out of the way into the chip pan. I used to grind a small radius on the top side just behind the cutting edge to allow the chip to break off into small pieces to avoid the “ birds nest”.
@Musicalbullet
@Musicalbullet 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! A wealth of knowledge!
@someoneelse7629
@someoneelse7629 2 жыл бұрын
Really nice to see that you both liked Sanvik inserts, when I did my last machine class, it was all Sandvik inserts, the perk of living in Sweden before international shopping and sorting for cheapest was the norm. But I talked to guy working in production recently, they still use all Sandvik, it is still cheaper in the long run since they last much longer then any thing else they have tested
@louiskeen8475
@louiskeen8475 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you gentlemen for this explanatory video!
@nyccnc
@nyccnc 6 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@aeromech8563
@aeromech8563 4 жыл бұрын
Guys I have watched hour after hour of you cutting steel n feeding n chipping Fkn awesome man I'm setting a private shop up when I'm back home in Australia I have learned so much tech shit from you thank you so much for your great videos and interesting tips just letting you know how great it is to watch engineers at work. Cheers Phil. Ps I'm an aerospace engineer and can't get enough of this content 🛠😎🇦🇺
@bradjunes1610
@bradjunes1610 3 жыл бұрын
I grew up (55 years in machining) with "Stelite" tools. "Heat the part up till it's red and start cutting" the old timers taught me back in 60's. Weld it hot and start cutting. Finished with all types of tools after straighten of boat shafts etc. Wish I had cameras back in the day before carbide you would see lathes of the 1940s doing awesome work and even to this day.
@Dr_Xyzt
@Dr_Xyzt 3 жыл бұрын
This is a cool video. The clink of metal chips is satisfying in a way that's similar to bullet casings, but not as much work.
@damionparson247
@damionparson247 2 жыл бұрын
Super video! Answered a lot of my questions that I had about inserts.
@hilltopmachineworks2131
@hilltopmachineworks2131 6 жыл бұрын
Wealth of knowledge here. Thanks Paul and John.
@LittleRestraint
@LittleRestraint 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, I learnt so much from this video, thanks guys!
@johnnym1320
@johnnym1320 6 жыл бұрын
awesome video! Paul is a wealth of knowledge!
@larryschweitzer4904
@larryschweitzer4904 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, interesting results. Beefy for a 16" lathe!
@tmcweld
@tmcweld 6 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this video since the teaser!
@nyccnc
@nyccnc 6 жыл бұрын
:)
@FrustratedBaboon
@FrustratedBaboon 6 жыл бұрын
Paul has so much knowledge about lates. Very Impressive.
@Hunter_S-fr4ns
@Hunter_S-fr4ns 4 жыл бұрын
This is ACE!!!… just got yourself a new subscriber 🇬🇧
@outsidescrewball
@outsidescrewball 6 жыл бұрын
Long video and thought NO WAY will I watch....DAMN...couldn't shut it off...... THANKS.....so much information...awesome
@ranchis9044
@ranchis9044 5 жыл бұрын
love when you said .. now thats a great Abom chip
@thomaslamora1679
@thomaslamora1679 6 жыл бұрын
This video wasn't what i expected... but it is amazing the "walk around" knowledge that some people have.
@rickcperry
@rickcperry 6 жыл бұрын
Watched every minute!!! He don't need no stinkin cutting oil.... BAD A$$, One of the best vids out here on the Tube!
@wernerberry7800
@wernerberry7800 6 жыл бұрын
Super great video John! Love to the old Guys!
@DIRTYTHUNDERCUSTOMS
@DIRTYTHUNDERCUSTOMS 6 жыл бұрын
I really dig these kinds of videos. U rock
@nyccnc
@nyccnc 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@jackjordan7691
@jackjordan7691 7 ай бұрын
This is so informative, thank you. Fun to watch.
@niceandcloudy
@niceandcloudy 5 жыл бұрын
great video as always, the ones at DeBolt Machine are especially good.
@melchvanleeuwen2166
@melchvanleeuwen2166 Жыл бұрын
wow what an amazing video! thanks guys i took alot from this.
@904justify
@904justify Жыл бұрын
These guys have done awsome job explaining this stuff
@themotofix5705
@themotofix5705 3 жыл бұрын
I hope to be a fraction as knowledgeable as this master machinist, one day.
@anthonyambler9688
@anthonyambler9688 6 жыл бұрын
Really interesting the one that really surprised me was the radius tool I wouldn’t have thought to use that like that
@glennedward2201
@glennedward2201 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting all the steels I work with. At times it cuts like butter and other times I think I have different material than what’s labeled. One of the issues I’ve ran into is the use of hot knives to cut these larger end drops off can often harden the material making it hard on one end, both, or inconsistent overall which can make machining on a lathe a pain. I have found on the vertical mill I can cut it in any mix of the above without much issue. It’s good to hear what others are doing it only expands the workability.
@denniss6317
@denniss6317 5 жыл бұрын
really good Video, i´m learning as a cutting mechanic here in Germany, dont know if its called like this in english. And this helped me a lot to understand it again better than before :D Thanks for that.
@xmaswitguns
@xmaswitguns 6 жыл бұрын
These men are a wealth of knowledge!
@SV_Sangha
@SV_Sangha 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, what a wonderful video!!
@anthonyquarrell9068
@anthonyquarrell9068 5 жыл бұрын
What a guy! He'd make a good master for a lucky apprentice.
@billdlv
@billdlv 6 жыл бұрын
Great info, just like the aluminum video a while back. I was able to follow along but it would be helpful to have on screen the parameters for each cut like rpm / feed rate / DOC or at least show when one is changed. I'm going to have to get a round insert toolholder.
@nyccnc
@nyccnc 6 жыл бұрын
TBH, I tried to do that and just couldn't keep up. Not a great excuse, but it's something I have never been able to do well when visiting someone else's copy to film/learn
@LittleAussieRockets
@LittleAussieRockets 6 жыл бұрын
just what i was looking for. thanks!
@PurityVendetta
@PurityVendetta 3 жыл бұрын
That Mr DeBolt, one smart guy. Fascinating video, although I work everyday on one off type jobs I learned a lot. Lots of subjects to think about. I'm going to have to watch this a few times to take it all in. One thing that drives me nuts is that the WW2 EN system of steel types is still in use here in the UK. I have to cross reference all the time.
@eliascastillo1641
@eliascastillo1641 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Problem I’ve had taking Huge cuts like that is the material might actually start pushing back into the chuck if you can’t butt it up against the jaws.
@tsstsstsstsstsstss
@tsstsstsstsstsstss 6 жыл бұрын
I didn't know Colin Mochrie did machining! Awesome video, John. Thanks!
@greglaroche1753
@greglaroche1753 Жыл бұрын
What a great video. Thanks!
@doug3458
@doug3458 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, highly informative. At 1.14.20, the cranked tool with the round insert is a right hand tool, not left hand as stated. The hand of a tool is determined by looking at it from the cutting(insert) end. Lets say you required a raised feature in the middle of the part using cranked tooling, you would cut the right hand edge of the feature from the end nearest the tail stock with a right hand tool and the left hand side of the feature from the end nearest the chuck using a left hand tool.
@CapeCodCNC
@CapeCodCNC 6 жыл бұрын
That was an incredible video! Make more like this!
@nyccnc
@nyccnc 6 жыл бұрын
Copy!
@johndebrular979
@johndebrular979 3 жыл бұрын
To really appreciate the ability of this shop and Paul you should have known his dad. A class act. Located near Zanesville, Ohio.
@johnlintorn6768
@johnlintorn6768 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastically informative video! What can I do to chip break if I have a small boxford home lathe with only a 1hp motor? I can't take deep cuts with high feeds to break the chips. And as you said I don't want rubbing on my ccmt carbide tips. Any suggestions?
@BeaterJeep
@BeaterJeep 3 жыл бұрын
I started watching “1018” and a portal to hades opened in my kitchen…… lol seriously, great video!! Thank you.
@Mugen20too
@Mugen20too 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative, thank you.
@maizecarter9713
@maizecarter9713 Жыл бұрын
This is awsome info 👌🏼 thnks guys
@StefsEngineering
@StefsEngineering 6 жыл бұрын
@ 55:50 I was just thinking that! And @ 58:00 it's Adam's favorite insert (as I can recall from this video's) the CNMG
@jaypierson5955
@jaypierson5955 6 жыл бұрын
1 word about the educational content in this video: Goldmine!
@nyccnc
@nyccnc 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jay!
@MegaLostOne
@MegaLostOne 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I am mainly cutting 1144 and 4140 with some 6160 added in with M2 HSS, no gear box so feed/speed isn't a quick change. While I am new to the lathe and using a 6" lathe (Atlas/Clausing) with a track record for gib issue's and mine has some heavy wear on them. I have been using HSS because my lathe just doesn't seem to be a fan of carbide tooling. I replaced the lantern style tool holder with a steel QCTP also to try to make it more rigid and I am replacing my cross slide nut next week to remove some of the backlash that I believe may be leading to my issue's as well since the positive rake will want to make it pull into the cut, lathe is bolted down to a heavy wood bench and there is very little flex. After watching this video, and if I am understanding this correctly, I can see some of the issue's I have been causing myself when shaping my HSS which has been grabbing or digging into the cut. I think, again if I am understanding this, I need to put a negative lead angle and a positive rake with a decent radius on my tooling to help where I have weak gibs for roughing and then I will change up to a set for finish passes with a smaller radius/positive rake and play with a neutral to positive lead angle or at least not such a negative lead angle. One other thing that has really helped is I believe where I have been leaving such a small radius on my tooling that it is affecting the finish as well as making it easier for the tooling to want to grab/dig into my work piece. But who knows at this point I could have it all backwards, again I am new to this and wanting a heavier lathe but it's just not in the cards for me at the moment so I am trying to do anything I can to help the lathe and ease the process.
@jesseskellington9427
@jesseskellington9427 Ай бұрын
Thanks for making this video :-)
@alexsterling5186
@alexsterling5186 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!
@alextatkin1026
@alextatkin1026 4 жыл бұрын
This channel should have more subs.
@xtiz
@xtiz 7 ай бұрын
This guy is awesome, like a father. Love it 😊
@troutfitter547
@troutfitter547 3 ай бұрын
I wish this guy was my next door neighbor.
@shadowdog500
@shadowdog500 6 жыл бұрын
Great info!! I'd love to see someone do a video like this for those of us with older lathes with less that 1HP, like my old MSC 11x36 belt drive lathe. Thanks, Chris
@nyccnc
@nyccnc 6 жыл бұрын
We're going to take what we've learned and apply it to our Tormach lathe!
@shadowdog500
@shadowdog500 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I can't wait to see the video. Chris
@dorsetengineering
@dorsetengineering 6 жыл бұрын
Hss tooling on vintage stuff in my experience...
@Bman130958
@Bman130958 5 жыл бұрын
Hey John...where is the link to the Sandvik Technical Guide?
@qweqwe700
@qweqwe700 4 жыл бұрын
A lot of great information here
@bcdesignco8013
@bcdesignco8013 6 жыл бұрын
Paul is such a badass guy! Great content!
@nyccnc
@nyccnc 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@robertkutz
@robertkutz 6 жыл бұрын
Very informative video.
@nyccnc
@nyccnc 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@TheWidgetWorks
@TheWidgetWorks 6 жыл бұрын
So far so good, I should send you some C275 or some inconel 625 so you can show what a massive difference there is in materials.
@nyccnc
@nyccnc 6 жыл бұрын
I'm great at machining Inconel. In CAM.
@Andrewlang90
@Andrewlang90 2 жыл бұрын
@@nyccnc Late to the party, but Incnonnel surface finishes beautifully, but like EN30B, it’s incredibly abusive on inserts and tooling in general
@mryoutuser
@mryoutuser 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing video indeed, so much great info in one video. I think It would be much better if you mention the full name of the insert, the effective diameter of workpiece and maybe the current consumption of the machine so we have a real indication of and a reference kind video for (tools and materials).
@sandeepnepal2064
@sandeepnepal2064 3 жыл бұрын
This channel is underrated AF
@davidklainer9218
@davidklainer9218 4 жыл бұрын
I only work with super alloys and Duplex as well as super Duplex and some of those alloys it is impossible to get Brack chips. Grate video
@jeremydoblinger3609
@jeremydoblinger3609 3 жыл бұрын
This is gold!! Really is
@ajfreeze215
@ajfreeze215 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! Now where's the video with the stainless and cast iron??
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