do you write with your wrist planted down or hovering above the paper?

Same. It's a dying art. 😢

Writing out a whole page in one hit is counter productive. Boredom will set in after a couple of line, then sloppiness set in. It is better to do a line or two regularly.

@@margyb7469 I feel like a mixture is a decent approach. Learning is different for everybody but I see a lot benefits to just absolutely grinding something out in the beginning until you are good enough to enjoy practicing. Guitar for example- when I was learning, (taught myself while at uni), in the very beginning, I would pound our 4 hour sessions of literally just trying to make chord shapes or picking individual strings consistently. You’re right, there were times where I would get absolutely sloppy- but almost infallibly, the next day when I have a fresh head and do the same practice routine, it would be noticeably easier. You ever slam your head against a level in a video game, rage quit, and then come back a few hours later and nail it on your first try?

@@willrummell3670 Absolutely!

That's very true.

Really appreciate

It's soo satisfying to do

That's when you sit down and show them in person what you're capable of.

OmG that's so excruciatingly hilarious 😝😂

Wringing? Holy shit

when your english is so bad that there's no way they would've understood your wringing regardless

Not D You need to say E 😂😂😂😂

I tried to copy it completely. I found out that the small c is incorrect, so I tried to search elsewhere. It's very nice, but watch out if you want to be very good at >using< it to quickly write: the hand is held incorrect etc.

Fantastic

I understand but start again. I started drawing flowers 6 months.

Composing it through his writing, I believe.

My pleasure :)

@@TheNormalHandwriting can you help me about handwriting...?

@@TheNormalHandwriting Could you please tell me what kind of nib is necessary for this? A flex? A stub? A fine/medium/broad?

@@rigvedrane I think this is a normal M nib but moved around in certain way to create line variation

@@AyushRaj DAMN, that's hard work and determination

Yeah, I learned Spencerian in school too, and the hand position confused me in this vid. I can't say much, though. I can't hold my hand any differently than the person in the vid does. Probably why I have so many wrist problems now. XD

Agreed. I think the OP, with all the passion dedicated to this art form, might benefit from studying arm movement techniques from the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Back then secretaries had to have great penmanship because typewriters were still not super common. And they had to be able to write for a long, long time. So they left a wealth of knowledge about ways to write that are ergonomic, efficient, and beautiful!

@@zerjiozerjio i know the books say to rest on the flesh below the elbow and use the nails of the ring finger and pinky to rest on the paper which does not feel comfortable to me . so i watched michael sull who ain't too bad , and he rests on the pinky and the pad below . there are many ways to skin a cat . i see people all over youtube with the ugliest grips write beautifully . but i agree . if i was young , i would really go by the book and do it exactly by the book.

In the pre typewriter era, teachers were very picky about form because there was a chance students might end up working in an office, writing and copying documents all day. Spencer designed his system for speed and endurance.

😉

You're welcome :)

Thanks :)

Thanks :). I've been practicing so far and really enjoy it 😄

it's not handwriting, its calligraphy

I am left-handed and I do calligraphy, I'm not a pro (yet) but I do it, keep trying :)

Fellow south paw

Yay we're all a club!

Being a Lefty doesn't ruin this I'm one too

Oh man I feel guilty :( I sold out guys, I learned to write wrong-handed.

Hi Victor :). Yes part 2 will be coming in October

My pleasure 😉

Thanks a lot for your precious and constructive words :). I honestly did not pay enough attention to the angle which is an obvious flaw. Thanks for pointing that out 🙂 And hope you enjoy practicing as well 😉

Thanks for your input ... I too, am lost in all the technicalities. I am a novice calligrapher, who learned Copperplate, and now I want to learn Spencerian too, but I don't know where to start. The earlier books on Spencerian are fortunately beyond their copyright and are now in the public domain, so I guess reading those books will be a good start. And thank you The Normal for starting this series. Instructional videos on Spencerian, aren't that readily available compared to the other scripts.

The Normal A technical flaw only if one is considering it in cotnext of Spencerian Script specifixations. I would give anything to have your writing. 🙂

Asaph73 Those five books are a good start. There are heaps of other resources for Spenceiran: 1) IAMPETH website 2) Google ‘Random guideline generator’ and there is a tool you can use to print guidliensnand x height and ascenders descenders - the whole lot- for a variety of Scripts including but not limited to Spencerian and British Roundhand. 3) There is another webpage that I downloaded practice sheets for Spencerian and that is A MUST for all aspiring to learn Spenceiran Script. I will check if i can find the link but the problem is : a) youtube doesnt allow posting links (and i know a workaround that). B) I have these practice sheets on my laptop but I dont remember where I downloaded those files from. If I find that link I will post it here. 3) LAST BUT NOT THE LEAST, oractice the angles on lined paper and checkyourself with a protractor if you are gettung the angles correctly. Evebn better would be to draw your own lines on a blank paper and THEN practice angles and letters. 4) and buggest hurdle is what is x height and width of letters in Spenceiran? Every body mentions height but getting the width is more tricky becausr you cant *draw* the letter correctly unelss you know all the dimensions. And its all in *one eighth of an inch; one ninth of an inch*. What all that means is you have to learn *theory* and learn it PRECISELY if you really wanna learn Spencerian. After a lot of search I have got the book that deacribes all that. I will post the name and page number for you. I spent a lot of time doing conversions from inches to cm and vice versa using rulers to take the measurements. So, I can state , quite ironically, that I am *-inching-* closer.

@@TheTravellingObserver Thank you for the comprehensive reply. I did find two websites that give free pdf downloads for Spencerian worksheets.

Pilot Metropolitan, $16-30 and grab some refillable cartridges so you can save money by buying your own ink!

I recommend the pilot Kaküno with either some cartridges, or a pilot Con-70 converter with a cheap bottle of fountain pen ink!

Thanks Claire. I haven't thought about it, but this could be a good idea :).

Please! I too would love some printable sheets. 🥺

@@TheNormalHandwriting I just found your videos and was going to ask this exact question. I would love exemplar sheets, especially on grid paper like in your videos!

spencerian is exactly 52 degrees

@@macabredisguise4852 Thank You.. .

@@macabredisguise4852 Yes I was about to write that 😃