Peter wasn't just sitting there looking at the wall at the end. He was listening to the police scanner.

waiting for the moment when nick says that amazing spiderman 2 is better than the original 2 movies

One of the character traits of Peter Parker is he can’t seem to catch a break, which is one of the reasons Spider-Man 2 hits perfectly on the whole struggle between the hero and the man, and when his complications in his own personal life start to complicate his responsibilities his Spider-Man the possibility of quitting actually becomes very realistic and understandable, I think the guys kinda forgot that Peter Parker is just a normal guy at the end of the day, he never asked to be Spider-Man or the responsibilities he now has to carry constantly every day, and Sam Raimi did a fantastic job of understanding the character and how being a “superhero” changes everything in your life and decisions you have to make

Peter Parker always taking L's is a big part of his character.

That's why this is the best spiderman movie because they get that spiderman is ruining Peter's life and Peter is ruining Spider-Mans life and him coming to terms with that he has to make compromises to be the best man he can be as both that's what the character of spiderman is and they captured that perfectly

Calling the first 40 minutes of this movie meandering makes me question if you guys understand movies at all.

I just don't think you guys like Sam Raimi films cause that's what this movie is through and through.

Thinking Homecoming is a better movie cos the Peter Parker/Spider-Man portrayal is your Spider-Man is justified but to say that Spider-Man is not even a GOOD movie (Kevin & Greg excluded) shows that you need to take off your Homecoming tinted glasses off. Are the scenes/dialogue corny at times and certain scenarios do not make sense? Yes but then every movie is guilty of that. A large part of the movie focuses on Peter and his struggle to keep balance of his personal life with the weight of responsibility he feels he has to maintain. But that's the reason why this is one of the best superhero movie. We get to empathise why he feels like he has to be just Peter Parker and give up on being Spider-Man as he is losing the most important people and aspects of his life to shouldering his moral compass. Add that to having a meaningful villain who not only is iconic due to his physical and intellectual threat to the hero and city but being portrayed as one of Peter's heroes whose life's work ultimately leads to the destruction of his well-intentioned vision and both his wife and his own death. The guys clearly don't want a self-contained Spider-Man movie that shows a Peter that has to deal with the realistic consequences of being a superhero which directly impacts the people in his life or face losing part of him that was gifted to him for the greater good and just want a fun, non impactful movie with jokes and connection to a larger universe. EDIT: Having watched the whole review, they really shit on nearly everything from Nick wanting a WORSE villain out of Doc Ock to Andy hating on every action scene to Tim thinking iconic scenes weren't done right. Greg and sometimes Kevin clearly liked the movie but felt the negativity and refrained at times. First time I've struggled to complete a piece of content from the guys due to weird hate. PS just watched the movie a few weeks ago and did a 360 from loving it to getting bored by it to loving it again especially after re-watching the recent MCU movies

Nitpicking films to the degree that Tim and Nick do is not in any way valuable critique.

This is really gonna piss me off, isn't it?

I used to watch this movie every day after school when the DVD came out. Re-watching it for the review just reminded me how much I loved it and why it resonated with me so much at the time. Definitely my favorite movie of all time for that reason.

WOW. They are bashing the hospital scene?!? I just re-watched it to make sure I wasn't crazy and it legit gave me goosebumps. Cheesy is the complete opposite of how I would describe this scene. Different strokes for different folks I guess!

I respect your opinions, but "Spiderman 2" is one of the greatest super hero movies ever made.

"Doc Ock is a bad villain because MCU has good villains" might be the weirdest thing I've heard today.

Man, you guys have no taste in movies. I thought the latest marvel movies were gonna spoil me and make me not enjoy this movie like I used to but I was wrong. This movie is still great. Almost better than Homecoming.

I've been rewatching these movies in anticipation for the new Spider-Man game, and I've started developing a theory that this version of Peter Parker might actually be mildly autistic, and it's giving me a new perspective on his character. My current girlfriend has a mild form of autism, and a big part of our bonding has come from me learning to understand her, how she can express herself, how she can't, and seeing the person she is inside beneath her sometimes messy, difficult to navigate social exterior. And relating that to Peter in this movie really helps me understand him a lot better than I ever did before. He comes off as weird, awkward, difficult to read, and sort of sad on the outside, but the movie gives you a window into who he is on the inside. He's a brilliant person, and very kind-hearted. His powers and persona give him a way to express himself in a way he never could in regular life. I think this theory also helps explain why he's so utterly inept at reading MJs distressed emotional state in Spider-Man 3. He can't pick up on it because he's never been good at reading subtle social cues. The only place he feels like he really has any control or understanding of his life is as Spider-Man, so that's where his head is at. He's goofy and cringey and often hard to watch, but that's really the point. He's a much more complex character than he seems on the surface. Nobody sees it on the surface. That's the crux of who Peter Parker is. And it's what makes him one of the most engaging protagonists in a superhero film to me. There are enough superheroes that are cool. He's a superhero that's a dork, and the writers really understood that.

You guys should review all the Harry Potter movies, would be a great series

It’s really gonna piss me off when they put the amazing Spider-Man movies above this. They are the so horribly edited, poorly written/directed and they don’t make any sense. At least the Rami trilogy is coherent despite its faults.

this movie rules

"I kissed her, but she doesn't know I kissed her. I mean she knows I kissed her. She doesn't know *I* kissed her" is still so funny

The more this series continues, the more its becoming clear they should have done a different kinds of movie series (Harry Potter or something else) and shouldn't have jumped to the old superhero movies immediately because its become clear those MCU rose-tinted glasses are too fresh. It becomes painful seeing how this just becomes shit talking most of the time. EDIT: I have to at least give Kevin and Greg some credit for attempting to finally see the movies through the lense of when it came out. Yes the movies have some flaws but the criticism being rooted from MCU-like perspective and too much emphasis on "modernity" undercuts any film criticism, which to me hurts credibility from people like Nick and Tim who I always considered the true film guys at Kinda Funny.

1:09:43 that is the character and theme of most superheroes Nick. I.E Batman.

I haven't watched this review but wanted to drop some Spider-man 2 thoughts. I watched every Spider-man movie leading up to the new game and have to say, what a fantastic movie this is. So much of the character work in this movie goes so unappreciated. The cheesey moments that yes are 100% that goofy on purpose are legitimately funny. The speech that Aunt May gives Peter when he's given up being Spider-man had a legitimate impact on my life when I was younger and resonated just as much, if not more now that I'm in my mid 20s. Also the action is IMO the best out of every Spiderman movie. TASM has some great little moments where he's far more flexible/agile etc. But this one has real tension and weight to it, anytime he's fighting Doc Oc (who's amazing in this) you really feel those hits and the sub way battle needs no introduction. Homecoming is probably my second favorite because Tom really is THAT much better than Tobey, but seriously this is a legitimate great movie. Thanks for anyone who bothers reading this wall of text, also I'd recommend Marcus' video about the Spider-man movies on Cosmonaut Variety Hour, or Captain Midnights channel in general. Cheers

I explained on the last video why this In-Review show was starting to become boring as you guys just bash anything that isn’t Disney/Marvel made and you guys continue to prove my point. It’s been a fun ride, but I’m done. Youll probably get me (and the dozens of thousands of views you have lost over the past few months) to watch again once you guys change up the formula to keep it fresh and keep your minds open to the way movies were made pre-Disney/Marvel. This show was the one that got me to subscribed to KF. Now I don’t need to be subscribed anymore. Peace.

The hospital scene in this is better than ANY scene in homecoming. Also a lot of the nitpicking in this could be applied to homecoming but ur just so biased

I don’t get why they are hating on these Spiderman movies. Maybe it’s because its nostalgia but I regularly watch both Spiderman 1 and 2 ( being they are some of my favorite movies of all time) and there really isn’t any reason to be bashing it as hard as they do. Sure it corny and all that but that Sam rami. Just like Evil dead they are so corny and cheesy but still doesn’t change the fact that they are great movies.

Man, I get so uncomfortable when you guys talk about actors dumb faces (eg. Tobey Maguire, James Marsden) lol. I know you're joking, but sometimes it feels close to the edge of bullying. P.s. Wouldn't that be the sign of good (or at least brave) acting, expressing emotions without worrying about looking cool or attractive? Idk, just my thoughts.

Here before they shit on a great movie. But regardless, still my favorite podcast and everyone has their own opinion.

Wow, The comment section has spoken and it seems some of these guys really missed the boat for SP2. Glad to see Greg and Kevin see the beauty in it!

You guys completely missed the point of that ending. It was supposed to be idealistic. Did you not hear the music and see the overbearing use of diffuse lighting? It's a fantasy, it's portrayed as a fantasy. Remember when Peter gives up being Spider-Man and we get the Raindrops Keep Falling on My Head montage, ending in a damn freeze frame? A fantasy. Spider-Man vs. MJ wasn't the conflict, it was about Peter coming to terms with what he wants and why he does what he does. The ACTUAL change for him comes when he opens up to Aunt May about what happened to Uncle Ben. In contrast, a very sober scene.

IMO I think that a good "No" is in rise of the planet of the apes. When Cesar yells no for the first time. The yell has great meaning and sets a scary tone.

It’s hilarious to me that in the Insomniac Spidey review, they praised the Doc Ock transition, yet criticize it here even though it’s practically the exact same...

You guys should change the name of this series to "Kinda Funny Shits on Every Movie".

Jake Gyllenhaal would've been a better Spider-Man? Is there a gas leak in the studio or something? That's like saying Randy Savage would nail Captain America. He's the polar opposite of Peter Parker.

I love you guys and fully respect your opinions but this was a tough one to watch. The negativity is just so intense. I feel like you might as well be reviewing Green Lantern. I fully admit this movie has flaws but it's also super fun and gets things right about Spider-Man that Homecoming fails to capture. I think Homecoming did a lot right (acting, comedy, villain) but ultimately I feel like Peter seemed too childish. Stay with me, I know he's a kid, but I always felt like Ben's death aged him beyond his years. I didn't feel like he had the weight of the world on his shoulders. I didn't feel the Parker luck or the true burden of his split identity. His major issue was no one would treat him like a grown up... which they shouldn't because he isn't one... Also, I get that Doc Ock's motivation isn't as nuanced as some MCU villains but "good guy that tragically loses his mind and becomes horrifically violent" is the formula that created nearly every Batman villain (especially in BTAS).. I think it worked very well here.

Never stop doing these! I love the taking a step and calling out the funny things in this movie that didn't really make sense. Still a fun movie.

The cgi when spiderman and Doc Oc are fighting while falling is better then the cgi in black panther when they're falling and punching each other

Is it Sept 7th yet????

Peter Parker fucking himself over in order to keep being Spider-Man is the essence of the character because he's so haunted by Uncle Bens death he can't let himself ever get lax again

Dog, Spider-Man 2 is awesome... Wait until you get to the Amazing Spider-man series... Those are absolute trash

Thanks for this video. I needed it in my life ;)

Oh and he was going crazy because of his hatred for Spiderman. He essentially let it get to his head. When he found out peter was spiderman it sent him over the edge.

I'm all for criticism of any art form, but some of the things you guys say in this "review" are extremely mean spirited. Personal attacks on actors? You guys need to be better on the internet, just like you're always telling us to be.

I hate this review guys. First of all you skipped a ton of the movie in the recap from peter giving up Spider-Man to him immediately doing it again. What about the burning building? The doctor check ups. The chocolate cake. The conversations with Aunt May when peter tells aunt may he was the reason for uncle Ben and the “there’s a hero in all of us” speech???? Not to mention you missed the themes. Whoever the man on the far right is yes peter would *like* to live a normal life with no Spider-Man and just have a carefree time but the fact is *he is Spider-Man* and with great power comes great responsibility. You guys should know from your favorite Spider-Man “when you can do the things that I can and then you don’t, and then the bad things happen... they happen because of you” literally while you guys were dissing that montage you missed the part where yea happy go lucky peter was watching people get mugged and other crimes knowing he has the power to stop it. So yes the theme is “Sometimes to do what’s *right* we have to be steady and give up the things we want the most. Even our dreams.” In conclusion this movie is way better than Spider-Man homecoming and also I’m only 1 hour and 17 minutes into this so if you do correct yourselves on missing a ton of recap or mention the theme then I apologize in advance but rn I’m boiled

Went back into this trilogy thinking that Homecoming wouldn't be contested, but fuck me: Spider-Man 2 is better. It's weird because it's just an inferior La La Land so I kind of still clutch onto Homecoming more because it's a bit more distinct to me, but 2 is still a better movie. Out of the three, this one is the pinnacle of the Golden Age Hollywood/Monster movie tone the trilogy has. So much heart to it. Kind of makes Homecoming feel vanilla and uninspired in comparison. I doubt I'll ever really revisit the Spiderman movies again, but if I do, 2 and Homecoming would be the go-tos

I appreciate Greg and Kevin for standing up for this movie, instead of just being spoiled nitpicking MCU brats. Spider-Man 2 holds a very special place in my heart and in the hearts of many. I didn’t expect much from Nick since it is widely known that he has terrible taste in movies, but I was quite disappointed by Andy in this review. :(

Just wanted to let Greg know that I burst out laughing when he mentioned the crab juice reference where Homer eats the Khlav Kalash

so did i watch a different version cause i had 2 scenes that i don't remember the elevator with the marketing guy plugging himself to spiderman and JJJ in spidermans suit?

One of favorite super hero movies of all time

Please please go watch comic book girl 19s review fo this movie its fantastic

As someone who grew up reading Amazing Spider-Man from late 90s to mid 2000s, the portrayal of Peter as a 20 something who struggles to balance his adult life was closer to the comics I enjoyed growing up rather than the Homecoming/Ultimate take with the high school angle. I’m glad at least Greg and Kevin saw the good and the bad.

Funny that Tim mentions that Spider-Man 2 was released on his birthday, because Spider-Man 2 In Review was released on my birthday.

Spider-Man 2 is one of the greatest superhero movies ever made, better than Homecoming.

This was such a great episode of Sliders in Review

Late to comment, but this review disappointed me. I understand not liking this movie, calling it cheesy and dated, but I feel like you guys completely missed the thematic elements of the movie. Peter being terrible at being a human being, his personal life falling apart, and not being able to be there for his family/friends is the epitome of Spider-Man. The fact that Nick found this as a criticism comes across as not understanding the core of both the film and it’s protagonist, making me question all of his criticism. Tobey Maguire, while not capturing every aspect accurately for Peter Parker, nails the awkward, non charming aspect of early Lee-Ditko Peter, and Sam Raimi realizes this and capitalized on it. I’m still subscribed to you guys and love your other content, but man, it feels like you’ve dropped the ball for this review and for Spider-Man (2002).

This is one of the best in reviews yet

Been waiting for this all day

I don’t think there’s a film on this planet (that’s not an 80s movie or a dumb comedy) that nick actually likes

“In review” is one of my all time favorite KZfaq series, but man this episode is brutal. All the things you guys are ripping about the film are hallmarks of Sam Raimi.. the cheesiness is the point. Not for everyone of course. But I personally think it’s still in the top 3 greatest superhero movies ever made

One of the best films ever made! My top 5 of all time! Edit: God, I wish they liked rewatching this! I just pretty disagree with most of what they say at the beginning of this video but that is their opinion which is great. I just feel like there is more to this film than they think. I would suggest watching CinemaWins video on Spider-man 2 to see what I mean. Edit 2: I hated this review really. Felt so miserable after it. They say no one who thinks this film is amazing hasn't seen it in years. I saw this film during Christmas last year and I prefer this to Dark Knight. Dark Knight is phenomenal but honestly, I think this is one of the best films I have seen. This felt like a mess of a review with many instances of them forgetting what happens or where things happen. People may think I'm overreacting but thats just my opinion. Not going to call them crazy for not liking the film but I do feel they were very harsh.

One of the few films i would put up there with The Dark Knight

This movie didn’t hold up as well as I remember, but the general negativity from the crew and the fans backlash to that negativity is making me think this series should be put on hold or swap genres. Do Harry Potter or Star Wars or Terminator or something. It just seems like Greg and Kevin are trying to have fun. Nick is kind of being a hater towards everything. Tim is blinded by comparison instead of judging anything on his own. And Andy idk.

Love the review it’s pure gold. However kinda surprised that with all the “you killed my dad” talk that no one made a princess bride reference. I always picture Harry saying to Spider-Man “my name is Inego Montoya, you killed my father. Prepare to die”

These guys were just waiting to hate on these movies. Extremely disappointed because this was a fun kinda funny series

"I feel like the train system works well.. and he's also Spider-Man" LOLLL thwip

Unhinged Greg is the best Greg.

Greg was it Hollywood Stadium theater or Forum 8

Woah woah woah Greg! You chatting about Sliders but you don't mention the squeaky gate!! What the hell, that's the heartbreaking one!

Please more role plays. "From what I understand, Spiderman doesn't use knives" had me weak.

I always thought it was strange that doc oc could withstand a punch from Spider-Man. The only thing different about Octavius is that he has robot arms, Spider-Man would have straight up knocked him out with one punch. Idk if there is any sort of explanation to this that i missed.

Man you guys have bad taste. At this point you will prefer the Amazing Spiderman movies - and that is honestly like saying the Star Wars prequals are better than the Original Trilogy.

Real glad I watched the video version for the first 40 seconds

I spaced out for a while and when I came back, I realized we were in Sliders In Review

Kinda Funny Reviews is one of the best things to come out of Kinda Funny

Not only the best Spiderman movie, but probably the best superhero movie ever made. The MCU is fun. But Sam Raimi has more heart and style.

the thing is spiderman 3 is not "that" bad, and is by no means "suicide squad" or "xmen origins: wolverine" but from memory more like thor: the dark world etc

Homecoming is Iron Man Jr (which is perfectly fine)

Two of my favorite things in this world... Spider-man and Kinda Funny, this series is fucking incredible.

better than homecoming *flies away*

This is better than homecoming in my opinion

WOW, I love this film and you guys destroyed it. Haha. As far as the best "NOOOOOO", it is clearly Louis Creed in Pet Sematary. The power of that scene, the raw emotion and the visuals, oh man, I get goosebumps every time. ;)

Spiderman 2 is the best movie that features a superhero. Even better than The Dark Knight.

Insomniac's Spiderman is currently pre loading on my ps4. Ya boys ready!

I look forward to this shit every fucking Thursday. Thank you for the fun gents.

What a bunch of palookas. Spiderman 2 holds up and still remains one of the best superhero movies ever

Love for a good five minutes they talked about multiple different series

it makes me sad that they are going to place the 2 trash andrew garfield ones as better than the rami movies

Why is it Dock ock's approaching (at both the coffee shop and Harry's house) audibly shakes buildings but after he gets his tridium he sneaks away without a sound like Batman? Also considering how much time there is between each shake he causes, how goddamn slow is he walking? Very strange

''HE STOLE THAT GUYS PIZZA!'' Oscar

i am so interested to see what happens when they get to the amazing spiderman and what they think of that. i don't hate it because garfield is a better spiderman but good it's pretty dumb. now this was the first time i've re-watched this in a while and it does not hold up as well as i remember when compared to the modern superhero films but i would easily put it high up in MCU and likely 2nd in the XCU (behind logan). i also still think doc oct is one of the best superhero villains and has a great story. also bloody hell i understand it's an older movie but is it really that hard to get into it at that time one of my fave movies of all time is "the good, the bad and the ugly" and there are planty of technical things that don't hold up.

I’m dying at the intro

Aw man half an hour late! Luckily tea time is early tonight. Time to eat and chill for the next few hours...

I CANNOT WAIT until they get to part 3

The only thing that comes to mind of a good scene where someone is screaming "NO!" is the end of Watchmen when Nightowl screams after Rorschach explodes.

How did you guys forget the scene where he tells his doctor that he's Spiderman?

It's WAY the fuck better than literally every movie with "X-Men" in the title.

i love you guys, but you literally nitpicked how deep a river is. like goddamn come on.

The best Spider-Man movie ever!!!!!!! One of the greatest comic book movies of all time

I watched your review. Watched the movie. Watched your review,your still wrong. Spiderman 2,still one of the greatest comic movies,still second best villain after ledger's joker.

I love how in a Spider-Man 2 review, they go completely off topic and talk about Sliders for like 15 minutes