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I’m sorry, but Kraven saying “harder” while being choked out by tentacles is the funniest shit to me

4:32- sorry but Miles calling out Peter’s symbiote BS with “You don’t even answer my calls anymore” might be one of the game’s funniest lines.

The, "YOU think I'M the problem!" in Venoms voice is peak.

I can definitely tell that most of Peter's words aren't just Venom, it's him, especially the all I wanted was to save everyone line and the now you think I'M the problem also you can hear in Peter's voice that he's breaking down mentally and fighting back the urge to cry, these are Peter's insecurities and the symbiote was fueling theirr fire like a toxic relationship to keep them together Peter has always tried to help everyone out to the point he puts himself last and Miles is trying to show him that people do care about him and that the symbiote isn't the way to deal with these problems At least that's what I got out of it

"You think I'm the problem" was one of most coldest lines ever delivered in this entire franchise. The soundtrack to accompany it has made this one of the most memorable parts of the game.

Damn Yuri is a goat voice actor. Bro genuinely sounds like he is in pain

"I'm the hero" " I dont get SAVED" One of the coldest lines I've ever heard

I just finished the game and I’ve just got to applaud Yuri Lowenthal’s VA. The range this guy expresses was the icing on the cake

When Miles said,”What about MJ ? You could have killed her!”, Pete got quiet real quickly.

I love the idea of Spider-Man saving Spider-Man from the black suit. Like Miles represents all the best parts of Spider-Man and literally fights all the worst parts of Peter to show him the light.

The “you think I’m the problem” gave me chills

It was honestly hard seeing Peter like this, the anger, bitterness, jealousy, all of it was coming out and this is litterally one of my heroes growing up. Dude is hurting so much and we gotta fight him while he's hurting, this game really goes hard when it comes to the chatacters

Absolute crime Yuri didn't win best performance at the Game Awards for this. He did spectacular.

"Now the city thinks I'm the problem! *YOU think I'm the problem.* But I'm not anymore! *I'm the solution"* this hits hard because it's an insecurity Peter already had, and now Venom is amplifying because Venom is determined to keep Peter. The fact Peter says "Anymore" means he'd already spent a long time wandering if maybe he *is* the problem, and Venom exploits that fear but then comforts him saying he can make him better

I damn near shed a tear to this fight bro. The emotions, gameplay, music, and struggle. this was just beautiful bro. really hits home with the message to never give up on the things you love. Nor give up on yourself.

The emotion behind this fight gave me chills 🤲🏾

Miles: This time, you gotta save yourself! Now you know Peter had to have gotten PTSD after those words. 😢

I absolutely love the way the music swells up and spiderman's theme starts shining through when he is ripping the symbiote off

The reasons Miles won: 1. Peter not in his right state of mind 2: Miles took advantage of Venoms weakness to sound. 3. Miles electricity kept Venom/Pete at a distance 4. Miles has the same speed and reaction time as Peter 5. Peter used rage and emotions to fight which is unlike him in many of his fights

1:10 Always in the way 3:10 You think I'm the problem

2:39 that head tilt is so creepy and I love it, it had me surprised

6:50 Miles telling Peter he has to save himself and Peter saying he can’t really hit me. Because Peter knows the symbiotie is corrupting him but he truly thinks he can’t be saved anymore until he starts listening to Miles

Kraven be like: Harder pls 🥵

It's unfortunate how everyone is arguing over the dumbest thing in this fight. It's NOT about who is the better or stronger spiderman here. These two both go on a journey and come together to be greater. (Just like the slogan) Stop trying to compare them, that's not what the story's about.

Venom low-key just an instigator that brings out the toxicity a person tries to keep in control

Miles is a really a true friend. He’s stuck by Peter, even when he was at his lowest, he never left Peter’s side. Just goes to show how empathetic and caring Miles is.

Even a hero needs salvation

The music at 8:06 🔥 So bummed it wasn’t included in the official soundtrack. Hopefully John Paesano releases an extended soundtrack soon.

I felt a lot of emotions of the line of " I was just trying to save everyone, MJ, May, the city thinks I'm the problem, You think I'm the problem?! I'm the solution!" Because I deal with this too when it comes to trying to be there and save everyone. Feeling like you aren't there when they need you and you won't dare to comfort them is one of the worst things ever. He feels so alone and abandoned He feels so alone and abandoned That he uses the symbiote to just protect people and feel good about himself and feel like the hero but the symbiote is consuming him and making him more depressed and angry and sad. I can tell that he was trying to hold back his tears and just was mentally and emotionally breaking down of anger, sadness, regret, guilt and shame, and with the symbiote it doesn't help at all. And I love how miles is here to help him. He isn't trying to steal the spotlight and try to become a better hero than he is And at the end I wouldn't say that miles won This wasn't a fight to see who can defeat the other this was a fight between a Peter who needs to get the symbiote off him and he even stopped ringing the bell knowing that Peter is more stronger than he thanks and he was able to remove off the symbiote, Showing that he's not alone and He doesn't need symbiote to make him feel like hes strong and hes a hero and feel confident and maybe even self-centered at moments. It's about being here and doing the right thing and being good. Spider-Man it's just a superhero title. But the person behind the mask is really the person with the emotions and the person has feelings too. And for Peter that's no exception. And miles says it best he thought that the suit and the powers would save everyone but it doesn't work like that at all. Myles wants Peter to know that a hero isn't invincible when it comes to emotions that they're here to talk and to just be there. To not feel like you're just a big screw up. To actually feel human instead of a superhero. And I really do like the symbiote to represent a drug That Peter is using to make him feel good to make him feel good to make him feel good to make him feel stronger but when that drug Changes his mind and emotions and changes the way he acts and thinks and feels he becomes more Violent and more attached to the suit since he like he said he can be everyone's favorites and best Spider-Man so you can protect everyone at the cost of himself and his relationship with others. And I want you to know if you're reading this that if you're going through something like Peter there is a light at the end of the tunnel. You got this you can break through This addiction of things like drugs or alcohol and know that you're way more nicer and more kinder than you think. This is a great game if not one of the best games of this year and I believe in all of you. I want you to know that you're not alone and that YOU'RE A WORK OF ART 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩!!!!!!!

2:58 Dialogue gave me Goosebumps

I love the fact that it wasn’t just venom talking it was peters insecurities coming out and venom was taking his insecurities and using it as a motivator for a corrupted Peter to work with venom you can hear it in some of his lines “all I wanted was to save everyone MJ may. Now the city thinks that I’M the problem, (venom takes his real thoughts)- you think I’m(venom) the problem” or “miles- all I want is to save you Peter- IM The hero here I don’t get SAVED””I get let this go I’m finally everything everyone needs me to be” also I like how instead of using venom like possession it’s more like a addiction like”miles- I know your hurting Pete but you gotta fight peter- I know I know but but-(venom overwhelms his will)No NOOOOOOOO” or “miles-you gotta be stronger then it. You gotta save yourself this time peter-(struggling)I.. CANT miles- you will” just shows that just like addiction you can’t always fight on your own as Peter only managed to break out of venom was with miles support Also has for when petter lost control completely I feel like it was once the tentacles came out that it was just venom and without miles he would have killed kraven and he wouldn’t ever be able to get the mental strength as he would have just killed someone and it would tear him apart

"Hurr durr why did miles beat peter" bro pete is NOT in control

“This time, you have to save yourself.” “I…. Can’t…” Peter is always saving people and helping others, but he can’t save himself. That’s probably the saddest part with this scene, Peter’s depressed, he feels worthless as Spider-Man, that’s why he bonds with venom so well

Sad people don’t understand why miles win, it’s because he need to, if he lose the whole city and peter friends will all screw up, after he lost his father and thin, he cannot let anyone gone again , that’s why he win

This fight brings out ALL the emotions

I just beat this mission this afternoon, this fight and the one before it was no joke! In spectacular difficulty, i got my ass kicked. Yuri Lowenthal should win best performance at the Game Awards, he went absolutely all out voice-acting Symbiote Peter. Just gives me chills.

Peter vs Miles Anakin vs Obi Wan Leon vs Krauser *The best student vs mentor fights starter pack*

Me personally, I think Spider-Man 2 was robbed at the Game Awards. Yuri deserved a Best Performance award, and this video proves it.

1:11 You're In The Way Miles! 1:13 Venom: Always In The Way!

"Always in the way" Hit in so many ways! Wow! Lol

I know the symbiote is bad but I kind of wish we got a game where Peter learned to actually control it instead of it making him go crazy every time. He has some crazy power when he has it.

did anyone else tear up during this fight?

For a second, Lowenthal sounded like Bakugo. That’s my impression I got from the fight.

"The one who would win... Is the one the writer wants to win!! Now stop asking these boneheaded questions" paraphrasing from Stan Lee. So stop being butthurt either way 😂

idk why people are confused by miles "beating" peter, peter was exhausted and practically mindless thanks to the symbiote while miles kept hitting the symbiote with its main weakness (sound) and a lesser weakness (electricity) throughout the entire fight that's like saying someone shouldn't beat superman after stabbing him with a kryptonite dagger and then blasting him with magic (edit) my edit didnt save for some reason but by "beating" I mean getting through to him and helping him rip the suit off. Bro didn't actually knock Pete down for the count in the slightest, and Peter was running around just fine the moment the suit was off of him

Take notes, Marvel Studios. This is what needs to happen in the Tom Holland Spider-Man films when he bonds with the Venom symbiote. What I would love to see is after all the devastating destruction Symbiote Suit Spider-Man unleashes on Damage Control and the Daily Bugle, he would save Agent Cleary and Jameson for last as he beats both of them to a bloody pulp, only until the last second realizes what he’s doing is wrong and he leaves them both bruised, broken, and bleeding as he decides to remove the symbiote suit.

I wish they would‘ve kept the Insomniac Spider-Man Suit with the Venom Bottle on his back. I really enjoyed that „design“ because the colorblocking between the red-blue from Pete’s suit and the black green from that oscorp bottle with venom in it just looks so good.

Straight up… I was not expecting the Kraven boss to immediately switch to a fight against Pete.

This is the fight we’ve all been waiting for

People are missing the entire point of this fight. Its not Miles vs. Peter, its Miles and Peter vs. Venom, a severely nerfed Venom because Peter is fighting the suit, even if he doesnt show it constantly. In the first intermission of the fight you can see Peter is trying to resist but can't fully. Miles only beats this version of Peter because he's not fully bonded with Venom and the bell. Without the bell, that suit doesnt come off and Miles may be screwed because the longer Peter has the suit the more bonded they become. And to further the point, Miles is meant to end up stronger tham Peter. Thats the entire point of a Student-Mentor relationship, the Student should surpass the mentor. If not, the mentor has failed. Anti-Venom Peter is his peak, he has all the benefits of a perfect bond with Venom with none of the drawbacks, even sound. That Peter is leagues beyond Miles BUT Miles will surpass that because thats the entire point of their relationship. Also, yes Miles beat the perfect Venom but that was Venom bonded to a regular human, not a Spider-Man. Venom with a Spider-Man base would be far far stronger than the Harry-Venom was. But if you need ANY MORE proof that Miles isn't stronger than Peter right now, the suit never tried to leave Peter for Miles like it did for Harry to Peter. Yes, it returned to Harry but only after Peter rejected it and it got information to mimic from him. But it never tried to jump to Miles because it didnt see him as a superior host, like it did for Peter.

I enjoyed this game tremendously. Just had fun with this fight and understanding it from a story point. But sadly, as I should expect by now, every fanbase is full of cringy, edgy morons who have to ruin everything by being negative, hateful monsters with extreme biases. Like everything sets motherfuckers off. Only a truly feeble brained individual thinks that this fight was to demonstrate who is stronger. It was about trying to pull Peter out of his darkness. The whole game is a parallel journey out of the darkness for the spidermen, really for everybody playing a larger role. To show Peter that even he needs saving sometimes, even as Spiderman. Something he didn't believe would matter because he was supposed to save people, not the other way around. Miles had the same revelation, believing that he was to protect his people, not the other way around, but was shown even his friends and family can save him without being a Spiderman. But no, lets dumb it down to caveman thought. 'Miles is beter than Peter, he was tired and still beat him' or 'No, Peter was nerfed and Miles won because of plot'. Miles returned the support. That Peter has given him since Jefferson died and pulled him quite literally out of the darkness. If you have an attention span greater than that of a squirrel and read this far, thank you, and if this applies to you... get your shit together and stop being a negative loudmouth and learn to discuss with an open mind. Have your opinions, but dont be a closed-minded fool. A discussion amongst other fans could give you some knowledge. Fact is, Miles or Peter being the better Spiderman or stronger Spiderman will be dependent on whos writing the story, simple as that. This infighting against each other is pointlessly ignorant.

"I made you!" Technically, Norman Osborn made him wheh he housed those spiders in his lab.

I know everyone talks about the suit, but can we talk about Miles in this scenario? In the space of 24 hours, he: Beat the crap out of dozens of hunters before being knocked out by a dirty trick Went toe to toe with Mr Negative, both physically and mentally, and won Fought against Kraven and lived to tell the tale AND Went blow for blow with an almost Venomized Peter, bringing him back from the brink. And yet the guy was ready for more. He never gave up, even at the absolute worst. Screw anyone that thinks Miles isn’t worthy of the Spider-Man name. His dad would be proud.

No wonder villains can’t beat Spider-Man The dude keeps jumping around everywhere 😮‍💨😮‍💨

That sounds when the Symbiote basically does its domain expansion ID so good. Just that high shrilling noise

As awesome as this fight was, there should’ve been a moment where Peter got the upper hand and was about to kill Miles, but Peter starts fighting back against the suit long enough for Miles to break free

Miles is literally the MVP of Spider-Man 2

This makes me wonder how terrifying spiderman be if he was an bad guy

Dope ass fight fr Definitely enjoyed my playtime just now with this part

I love the dbz and mha references they used in this fight sequence🔥👌🏽

This fight was awesome but Spider-Man vs Spider-Man 2099 will still be the greatest Spider-Man vs Spider-Man fight ever

4:39 miles been watching too much anime.. more specifically, too much my hero academia

2:51 is basically a Yakuza Dynamic Intro and I love it

Miles Morales destroys Peter Parker with facts and logic

I love how Venom's voice comes in and out

This hurts me mentally, emotionally and spiritually way more than it should.

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This was awesome

Peter was screaming like he was dying

Man this fight hit me like a truck both yuri and nadji turn in fantastic performances yuri deserves beat voice in gaming for this scene

Alex: NOW THE CITY THINKS THAT I'M THE PROBLEM!!!!!!! symbiote: do you think I'm the problem? Alex: but I'm not anymore! Symbiote: I'm the generation!

Soundtrack goes fucking hard

Honestly that venom voice goes in !!

All of the boss battles were a pain in the ass for me

from the moment we all saw Venom in the first trailer, we knew this fight was going to happen.

0:12 you see this what happens when I play undertale too much I think every sentence similar to undertale is a reference

I dont think Miles is outright stronger than Peter more than Peter is so worn out from being spiderman and the symbiote wearing down his mental strength, Miles is just young and fresh

Legit my fav fight of this game venoms boss fight came second but this right here is a powerful fight the soundtrack and the dialogue the way they showed how addicted he is to the symbiote is awesome and i love how the symbiote showed peters other side the one without the mask letting out his fears, frustrations, and anger out as miles said he really thought the suit would solve it all

A missed opportunity could've been, Peter's name could've had a question mark in it or change between "Peter" and "???". As if Miles is struggling to know who he is fighting or who is listening. And a cool game mechanic could've been, the symbiote regenerates Peter every few seconds.

This game really peaked here 🔥

4:19 i feel like this was a kefla vs ultra instinct goku reference

Yall this is practically not peter vs miles, but Miles vs The Symbiote

I feel like venom in the game is trying to do right but is going about it in the wrong way. He says “you think I’m the problem” which makes me think that he’s blaming them for thinking he’s evil when he’s trying to do right by fighting more aggressively and even wanting to kill bad guys (like wraith). In the finale he also says something along the lines of “you threw us away” which could mean he’s mad Peter got rid of him. He also says we are your friends and he’s “healing the world” could genuinely be him trying to make everyone powerful and happy by becoming symbiotes. These are my thoughts tho

Fans: we got to different Spiderman how about a co-op mode? Developers: that's dumb ur dumb.

I really hope we can get an alternate ending eventually and beat miles and see a fully corrupted peter for a new ending level

2:45 🥶 💯

I just realized Peter was using the same technique called the anti-venom bomb against Miles in 3:42 , but colored black (because he’s obviously using the original symbiote). I really like the purple aura on it tbh, since it gives me Web of Shadows and Ultimate Spider-Man vibes, and for me it’s a representation of Peter slowly spiraling into the alien’s control further and further, strengthening his pain and desire for using the gooey parasite more frequently, while also making him look/feel more crazier and wanting to hurt people with how he uses it. I really wish that the purple light on it was present while using it with the black versions of the suit, to give it back its stronger and more savage feel.

How. Did you get good quality on vid?

I would kill to have an alternate timeline where you play as Symbiote Peter, and you whoop Miles' arse and say the Prowler intervenes, or Peter Loses control and goes full Venom mode, Please put that in DLC.

i uppercutted peter and my screen went black so here i am watching what i missed 😭

How cool would it be if after each phase it switched prospectives and had eight phases for the entire fight. I mean it would be really annoying to get through them all but it would be much cooler.

Fighting my childhood hero was painful for me

People are in their feelings because Miles won. Jesus people. It’s all fiction.

I need to know the song's name during the fight it's so good

3:05 “All I ever wanted to was to save everyone.” that line hits hard every time

Fight was epic and thought the direction they went was cool. I do wish thoe that peter had the suit for a much longer period of time because then he has time to eventually realize he needs to get rid of the suit.

This fight is making me feel sad because Peter is miles best friend and Miles is hurting Peter? That's messed up it's starting to break my heart.

Is it just me or does it feel like there's a scene missing between the fight and Peter ripping his suit off? Like a scene where Peter realizes "oh shit, this is not who i am" and THEN starts to rip off the symbiote?

WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS?! I MADE YOU! YOU OWE ME!!!