0/10 Spider-Man didn’t say fuck

When Tobey stopped Tom from killing Goblin, I was reminded of this quote: “Uncle Ben meant the world to us, but he wouldn’t want us living one second with revenge in our hearts. It’s like a poison, that can take you over. Turn you into something ugly.” -Aunt May, Spider-Man 3

I think I disagree about the opening. I love how fast paced it is because even the music, the one take and the camera work makes it feel like the way Peter would have felt like in how frantic and stressfull it would have been. I LOVED the drums and the "rock pop fun song" in the opening. It was soo cool to me.

Actually. Sandman’s motive was to get home, that’s why he was trying to get the box. Even Electro said something along the lines of “Sorry marko we’re not going back” or “sorry flint I’m destroying this!”. He said something like that. I noticed it after my second watch

The reason they took the mask off of the Goblin was presumably so we could get to see Willem Dafoe’s epic facial acting. Heck, that was one of his original complaints with the first movie, so I think it’s a good change.

The thing about Doctor Stange's final spell is that it's NOT a time-changing spell but a memory-wipe spell. The timeline never changed and everything in the MCU still happened, but now in the present anyone alive does not remember anything about Peter or any of the interactions with him. So you need to think about less as if the timeline changed to accomidate nobody ever meeting Peter, but that they were mindwiped to not remember him specifically, like a SUPER specific form of amnesia to everyone in the world. The movies and their event don't change, just everyone's memories from this movie forward. (Great video btw, I too absolutely loved this movie)

Wish we got to see the full look for the spider suit at the end of the movie it seems like he had the spider logo in the front inspired by Tobey and the back by Andrew

48:28 It was mentioned in the Venom Let There Be Carnage after credit scene that all the symbiotes have a hive mind linked to the multiverse, so all of symbiotes contain the same memories, so that's why Venom went "that guy" and sexually assaulted the TV screen because he remembered that Tobey Spider-Man is a thing from the memories of the Topher Grace symbiote.

Troy: "I didn't like the rami memes" Me : "I miss the part where that's my problem"

Im okay with Toms Peter not having an Uncle Ben death at the beginning to choose to become a hero. I mean think about it, this young kid that has idolized these superheroes for so long in this universe gets his own powers, of course hes gonna try to be like them. Thats what the first movie was about. Him basically trying to be Iron Man, a superhero he idolized and learning he should just be his own hero. Then in FFH he kinda realizes the weight of being a hero and doesn't want to do it anymore but in this movie he learns that he doesn't have a choice. He has great power and with that comes great responsibility. He can't have his fun Spider-Man stuff like before and have his Peter Parker stuff. When Spider-Man wins or saves the day, Peter Parker loses.

I got a theory; maybe she doesn't like being called watson because her dad might not actually be her dad. Perhaps a stepfather she hasn't accepted into her family?

About the Aunt May and responsibility moment, when Peter says "I know" I think he's recollecting that Ben did teach him about responsibility but in the way which was said by Peter in Civil War. So that's maybe the reason he's confused how the other Peters know that since he never directly hear it from Ben, he heard it from May.

Andrew was the best part of the movie by far. Tobey was ofc great and Tom gave his best performance as Spidey yet but Andrew really stole the show.

In Venom Let There Be Carnage in the post-credit scene Venom said to Eddie about how other symbiotes share knowledge across universes. Now what I’m thinking is that since Venom is in Spider-Man 3 Venom from the Sony-Verse knows Tobey’s Spider-Man, he just probably doesn’t know exactly what he looks like he just knows that Spider-Man which is why he got sent to the MCU.

Imo this cemented tom as a completely different spiderman in a different universe that had to become comic book Spidey. Unlike Tobey and Andy, the avengers and all these heroes already existed while peter was a kid in the MCU. It isn't hard to believe that after getting his powers his first idea is to be like the superheroes on TV. He was doing good because it was a cool thing to do. Now after 3 ish years of spidermanning aunt may dies, gives him the speech, and he can become the Peter Parker we all know.

My favorite Tobey Moment was him stopping Peter 1 from killing Norman. His face speaks so many volumes as he is trying to help Peter.

Andrew’s entrance and everything was more emotional for 2 reasons: 1) his duology was very character centric, more so than the others so I felt more invested his in Spider-Man than the others and 2) you knew how much even simply involved meant to him. The other two were happy to be there, but Andrew’s love for the character goes above and beyond.

My head canon for Oscorp not existing is that Norman just went to where he knows Oscorp to be in his universe and because it’s not there he assumes it doesn’t exist. Like maybe he goes to where The Oscorp building is in his world but it’s a different building and in the Mcu Oscorp exists but it’s just located in different areas

I realize that May could have totally been in FFH as a chaperone and given her a chance to build more character. Wish that happened.

Andrew just has incredible chemistry with everyone

No Way Home does not say Uncle Ben didn't exist. May says the Responsibility line and Peter says "Yeah I know" why would they purposefully put that in if Ben didn't exist. You could argue then why would they purposefully not have Tom say Ben's name out-loud well there is that theory floating around that Avi Arad is behind them not being allowed to have MCU Spider-Man refer to Ben, which seems to be backed up very well since in the first thing MCU Spider-Man was in where Marvel had complete control they found an excuse to namedrop Ben instead of the usual MCU Spider-Man tradition to not namedrop him, this to me is a pretty big indicator that there is some behind the scenes meddling that has it so Ben can't be referenced directly in the live action films, which is probably why they are making the Spider-Man freshman year series so they can finally establish Uncle Ben's impact on Peter, they'll probably even write in a reason as to why Ben's grave wasn't at the end of NWH, maybe he got burned instead of buried. In the scene where Tobey mentions Ben it does in no way say Tom didn't have an Uncle Ben, Tom looked so relieved when both Andrew and Tobey mentioned Ben. Also when Tobey mentions Ben he doesn't say "My Uncle Ben he was like a father to me" because he knows Tom already has one where as when Andrew talks about Gwen he has to explain who she was, he says "I lost Gwen, she was my MJ". Also when Andrew and Tobey so casually talk about Uncle Ben as if everyone present already knows who he is Tom doesn't ask who "this Uncle Ben" is because he already knows who he is. They clearly all assume they're pretty similar especially based on how they point out the things that make them different like how Tom is so surprised that Tobey and Andrew don't have the Avengers, and how Tom and Andrew are so surprised that Tobey shoots organic webbing. As I said before there is definitely some behind the scenes meddling making it so Ben can't be outright said by MCU characters in the live action films and there is no further proof of that than in the graveyard scene. A year ago it was rumored and has almost been confirmed that Avi Arad forced the team of FFH to remove Uncle Ben's grave from the Mysterio acid trip scene because he wanted to squeeze as much out of the money they spent on RDJ. This seems veeery similar to that just without the RDJ stuff, however it could also that the reason they didn't put Ben in there is because it would be an unearned emotional pay off since they haven't established him in the MCU yet, and maybe also because they don't want to take people's attention away from May's death. Freshman Year is definently Feige's way of backtracking and finally estaplishing Ben for this version.

Peter doesn’t become Spider-Man without ben’s death, so I’m pretty sure Uncle Ben exists but just never said the line like how he never said it originally in the comics. Peter becomes Spider-Man out of guilt and a sense of responsibility. May with the quote just reminds him of that.

Ive heard so many critisms I understand, but the ending made it a 10/10 for me. I love the avengers and even think infinity war is great but this movie blows it out of the water

Loved the christmas wrapping paper suit at the end. Got that weird comicbook shine none of the movie costumes have.

Maybe I'll get hate for this but Uncle Ben doesn't fucking matter. Ben justs deliver the message that drives peter. Aunt may saying works just as much.

I loved the MJ idea near the end. Imagine MJ is gone for MCU Spider-Man 4&5 and then the post credit of 5 or start of 6 Peter’s new friend (Harry maybe) says he set up a blind date for Peter. “She’s cool, just moved back to NYC, and she’s at the door.” Peter opens the door and Zendaya gets to say “face it Tiger, you just hit the jackpot”. That would be cool imo because I’d like to see Zendaya back as MJ but not for a few movies.

i think we can all agree the last hour and 30mins of this film is 10/10. that ending as well has me so excited for spiderman 4

Oooooooooh. When Osborn said, "Someone else is living in my house" for some reason, i took that metaphorically to mean, 'The Goblin is in my head" the former makes way more sense also that was probably because i was high

this video is longer than the actual movie excluding the end credits damn 💀

I’m disappointed by the fact that the pizza theme wasn’t even included in this movie, even for a small in joke

When I watched the movie I had the same thought that they just stabbed Tobey for no reason other than shock, but when I watched it the second time I thought about it and it makes perfect sense. As far as Goblin is concerned the fight isn’t over so when Spiderman is standing there with his back to him and his hands occupied it’s the perfect opportunity for him to eliminate an enemy and he knows about his spidery sense but knows that Spider-man would take the stab rather than let Tom kill him

1:29:21 I believe your talking about the Last Stand Suit. I could be wrong tho.

Still angry that they never finished the 60's Spider-Man theme cover. The MCU version ends prematurely, it doesn't include the “To him, life is a great big bang-up Wherever there's a hang-up You'll find the Spider-man!” part, and that always annoyed me. Was expecting them to do it during NWH's final swing, but they didn't.

I really love the movie and also the final, like I knew in some part everyone would forget he was spider-man but not that everyone would forget Peter parker was, like he literally has no family, no friends and I also love the final like his new classic suit represent a Brand new future for the next trilogy. Also thanks for this video ready to see it with pauses😂

Maybe in the next trilogy we could have Black Cat Harry and new friends that he doesn't want to expose to his Spider-Man life And when Venom appears maybe he gets his memories using the Symbiote conexion and goes after MJ and Ned and he needs to stop him (Considering that is a different Venom and not Tom Hardy's)

"You know I'm something of a scientist myself." was great. Fight me. They did say Doc Ock's power of the sun too much. Especially cause he whispered it in Spider-Man 2.

TIME STAMP 0:38 Spidey didn’t say fuck 1:44 Opening Scene 2:48 MJ’s character 5:00 Back to talking about the opening scene 8:03 Thoughts on Daredevil’s scene and Framing conflict 12:40 MIT stuff 15:22 Diner stuff 16:47 Sanctum Sanctorum 18:02 Flash Stuff 19:50 Strange Spell 20:43 Bridge Scene 24:40 thoughts on Dok Ock and other villains 29:05 Thoughts on Black and Gold suit 29:53 thoughts on Electro and Sandman scene 34:49 thoughts on Green Goblin 39:00 the theme of helping the villains 42:27 Dr. Strange vs Peter Train fight scene 49:46 Apartment scene 52:03 Goblin twist 54:49 Dok Ock apartment scene 56:15 back to Goblin twist 57:30 Sandman loses his powers 58:08 Goblin fight 59:15 thoughts on J Jonah Jamison 1:02:37 Thoughts Aunt May’s Death 1:06:10 What happened to Uncle Ben? 1:18:00 Thoughts on Tobey’s and Andrew’s reveal in the movie 1:19:57 Thoughts on Ned 1:23:53 more thoughts on Tobey and Andrew 1:37:07 Statue of Liberty fight 1:43:00 The scene with Dok Ock and Tobey 1:43:55 Should they add Dok Ock and Norman into the MCU even when Tom’s Spidey saw a version of them in NWH? 1:46:29 The spell is very vague/thoughts on canon 1:47:52-1:48:54 Piss break 1:49:20 more talk about the Statue of Liberty fight 1:50:39 leaking the rewrite 1:51:15 thoughts on Final battle 1:57:22 Thoughts on the ending END OF TIMESTAMP

i think aside from tom finally coming into his own as peter parker (ESPECIALLY when he becomes vengeful and wants to k word green goblin), willam and andrew easily stand out as the best actors and my highlights of the movie. willam was easily my favorite part of the first spider-man and he outdoes himself in nwh, and andrew just proved how much he IS peter parker just as much as the other two are. (he’s also my favorite of the three so it was beautiful to see him with a better script where he can actually BE an emotionally complex peter)

What I would do is let Uncle Ben's death be the trigger for Peter to become Spider-Man, since his death was his fault because he used his powers irresponsibly. For 6 months he kept that promise to himself, but he suffered constantly because he had no support from anyone. It was the right thing to do, but it seemed more like a punishment. Then Tony Stark shows up. He shows him this amazing world full of possibilities, which make being Spider-Man a lot more "fun", so to speak. Unfortunately that intervention from the billionaire makes Peter slowly forget the philosophy his Uncle Ben taught him, as he prefers the superficial side of what it means to be a superhero, rather than the emotional aspect that makes him suffer every time he puts on the mask. That would justify his attitude focused on the superiority complex in Homecoming and the inferiority complex in Far from Home, neatly connecting to the second tragedy in Peter's life, the death of Aunt May. Thus No Way Home forces Parker to return to that philosophy, losing absolutely everyone close to him for neglecting it in the first place because of the Avengers' intervention in his life. It's a sort of extended origin that comfortably encapsulates what it's like to mature in the real world. A lesson can be forgotten because of the illusion of change.

they should’ve given the “oh don’t fix me” moment that Otto had to the lizard

My idea with Ben is based on Civil Wars talk, where Peter basically says that him choosing not to use his powers immediately led to something bad happening that he may have been able to stop if he took on that responsibility sooner, so like my idea for the Freshman Year show is Ben asks him to run to the store, Peter lies and says he can't because he's got homework when in reality he just wants to play with his powers and climb on walls and shit, Ben goes to the store, later while Peter is in his room he hears sirens go by, he goes to climb out the window but doesn't, he then later finds out that those sirens were because someone killed Ben. He isn't directly tied to the death and he isn't there to hold Ben and he didn't see the killer but as you would he naturally ties himself to death, what if he went to the store, what if he did climb out the window etc

2:19:00 You have to remember that Strange hasn't erased history, he's just erased everyone's memories of who Peter is.

23:46 I'm pretty sure Octavius mentions in Spider-Man 2 that he used nanotech to create his arms so this sort of makes sense.

1:44:22 I can really see some good potential in the future with introducing an MCU Doc Ock or Goblin. It could add some inner conflict of Peter knowing that they’re going to become villains but attempting to help them before it happens. I’m worried that they’ll avoid these characters in the future bc they’ve already been done in this movie, but I really would like to see them return. As much as I loved this movie, I wanted to see a different take on these characters.

"Dock Ock is played for comedy" I TIRE OF YOUR QUESTIONS BOY

Honestly I felt like Sandman and Lizard should’ve been cut as they weren’t great in this and we should’ve gotten more of Willem Dafoe’s Goblin since he was fucking amazing.

i feel like how the spell works is that all the events in the past still happened, like peter still had all the connections with tony and fought thanos, but it like wiped everyone’s minds and made them forget about peter, but everything still happened.

I think that when Uncle Ben died he said the words Peter said in Civil War, something like “When you stand by and don’t do anything, and something bad happens, it happens because of you.” He’s kept this mindset in Homecoming where Vulture tells him to look the other way that night and says he can’t. Just an idea of what it could be.

Peter does have an uncle Ben in the MCU because of the ffh suitcase and what if… remember the only thing different about that universe is that there are zombies

Whenever spider sense went off it was shot really cool idk I’m glad we got more than not acknowledging that his spider sense wasn’t working lol

Venom is a hive mind across universes. Tobey’s Venom knew that Peter was SM.

19:45 Flash getting kicked out of MIT, and then going to school with Peter, and not liking him again would be hilarious!!

A couple things I want to say, one I think Ned is smart, but he’s very clearly socially awkward, even so a little with his friends, so he’s not really thinking things through and he’s done this a lot throughout the movies, I think the better change with electro is due to how much more confident he felt with new power and in a new universe with no threats, and I think that sandman was only working with the group because he wanted the spell box, but to send himself home, others wanted to destroy it, but I think he was just trying to find it. Loved the video though

It would so interesting if Tom Holland Spider-Man was the reason why villains like Green Goblin, Doc Ock, Electro, Lizard and Sandman become villains in the MCU as an attempt to stop the villains from turning evil. Just my opinion though 🤷

Norman Osbourne could exist in the mcu. When he said there is someone else in my house, he could be talking about himself but he wouldnt know that because he looks different. Also, Peter might just not know what Oscorp is… or it’s a secret organization.

I like how it’s implied but they don’t show it that there is a period of time between the ending of the events at the Statue of Liberty and when he gets that apartment that Peter may have been homeless for some time.

You guys recapped the entire movie in around the time it takes to watch the entire movie. And I loved it. P.S your mustache is glorious, keep it

I think Uncle Ben died and it was Tom's fault, but Ben died before he could say with great power there must also come great responsibility, meaning Peter would have to find it out on his own, like in the 60s comics. One reason why May's grave stands alone may be because Ben was cremated. After all, burials are expensive, and the Parkers have been pretty low on money for a long time.

"segment from the podcast" longer than the podcast

Props to Tom Holland for delivering his lines while in green screened solitary confinement.

"When you can do the things that I can, but you don't, and then the bad things happen, they happen because of you" - Peter Parker

When Mithii said "imagine a La La Land movie, it's like people haven't heard of Spider-Man: Every Hour AAAAHH

Troy is that one friend that when you try to get your words out, they just keep talking louder so you can’t talk lmfaoo

Perhaps her dad is neglectful or abusive and that's why she doesn't like the Watson part of her name. 9/10 just for the Spider-Man pointing meme. Ok, ok. I guess some points are there for poor Peter Parker and the classic suit inspired by Tobey and Andrew with their symbols. Good stuff. Andrew killed it, William killed it, Marisa Tomei got killed by it... Sorry. Edit: It was me, who tweeted the Lizard and possible dark future with Andrew's Spider-Man.

rewrite that apartment scene where norman return to the goblin persona. not the spidey sense because how they showed that in the movie is top tier. but imagine that scene where peter is being smashed through the floors but with each villain taking turns fighting peter on each floor

What happened to Uncle Ben segment was the second longest, I hope future movies or when the freshmen year explains it, I hope he did teach Peter something, cause he clearly did learn something considering he did say something similar to with great power comes great responsibility in civil war

Green goblin does have some form of physical transformation they did it in the Raimi films where when he was goblin he would show the gap in his teeth when he was Norman there wouldn’t be a gap they would get dentures and fake teeth to remove the gap they did it in this film

When it a two and half hour long “segment”

I could make a meaningful comment about everything this film does right and how it’s a wonderful showing from an iteration of Spidey that’s disappointed me so much in the past. But instead I would like to praise just how much Willem Dafoe kicked Tom Holland’s ass during their first fight. Goblin fucked this guy up so hard, a real highlight of the film

25:20 "Doctor, if the artificial intelligence in the arms... ...is as advanced as you suggest... ...couldn't that make you vulnerable to them?" "It means I maintain control of these arms, instead of *Them Controlling Me* " ??? OK dude whatever you say.

It bother me Tobey saying "its complicated" and then not hearing why. If it work out just fine why say that? I think MJ got powers from sex with spider-man or they have a spider kid. What else could it be?

The one thing that they did right with Otto was they made sure to have him say that the voices stopped and it was "silent" once he got the chip.

1:08 Yes the motivation was there and then kind of retconned. In CA3:Civil War aka Avengers 2.5, Spider-Man says "with great power comes great...." but he doesn't use those words he says and I'm paraphrasing "if you can stop the bad guys, but do nothing, then its your fault." I had assumed Uncle Ben told him that.

I disagree that ffh isn’t a Spider-Man movie. Any other mcu hero and it wouldn’t have worked as well. There’s no other hero in the mcu who is young and has a secret identity. No other hero is in high school and going on school trips, or has a villain that could do anything similar to mysterio. Just because it’s not the classic Spider-Man archetype doesn’t mean it’s not a Spider-Man character. Dark knight isn’t a Batman movie because everyone in it could be swapped out for a regular human being.

This whole discussion threw me through a loop a few times. Spider-Man: No Way Home is a pretty great Spider-Man movie in no part thanks to the ending and it's potential for so many fantastic movies down the line. I agreed with pretty good amount of your guys' views and didn't agree with the plenty of others (Continuity WOOF) with some like the "Who cares about opinions" take not withstanding. It was full of great romp listening to you guys chat about the film and it's nice to you wrong (but happily so) about the future of MCU Spider-Man and look forward to some more good stuff from you.

My idea I had that would be a different take on the Ben stuff is having May and Ben going through some sorta divorce kinda indirectly snowballing ever since they got Peter into they’re lives after his parents died. And maybe Pete starts getting resentful of Ben cuz the divorce might fall through and there’s a lotta tension from all parties. All while Peter is dealing with the spider bite and playing around with his new powers. The end of the series could be Bens death, I think it’s a cool new way to do it

1:11:10 This idea of responsibility was already introduced in Civil War. When Tony asked him why he'es doing what he's doing he says something along the lines of i have great power so i have the responsibility to use it for good. The whole arc of Spiderman in the MCU is about growing up and actually understanding what that means. So i think Aunt May telling him that in this moment was perfect for MCU Spidermans arc.

These guys really made a review that's almost as long as the movie they're talking about. Now that's what I call, incredible.

25:30 In Spider-Man 2 Doc Oct literally says (and I'm paraphrasing, not the exact quote) he has the chip so he controls the arms and not the other way around.

I thing I didn’t like was the CGI on Tasm suit, it looked so skin tight and weird like tom’s suit

1:04:46 I'm gonna be honest, I don't even care that they used the line from the comic, I'm just happy that they used it in a way that makes sense. In the original movie, when Ben says "with great power comes great responsibility," Tobey doesn't have any power that he knows of, and certainly not any great power. It makes sense when Aunt May says it here, it makes sense in the deleted TASM2 scene when Peter's Dad says it, and it makes sense why the TASM Ben never actually specified great power, but just the ability to do good. But Uncle Ben in that car just knows Peter's changing, not that he has any newfound power, and so saying "great power" just doesn't make sense there.

I think the idea you brought up with normal Osborn being the darker half cohld have been really interesting, maybe forcing Peter to acknowledge the darker side of Tony stark whom he idealised with normal being a dark reflection of that type of billionaire character which would also further his arc into being more of his own independent hero rather than being “Iron man junior”

About the whole great power thing. I still think it could work. When the other Spider-Men talked about how be told them the line, you could see something click on mcu peters face. You could play that as him finally seeing that they have all been through the same loss

48:30 talking about Venom and him getting transported into the MCU despite not knowing Peter is Spider-Man, I would say that in Let There Be Carnage, Venom does state that he can see through the multiverse and that the Venoms are connected through a hive mind meaning there is at least one Venom out there who bonded to Peter and knows that Peter is Spider-Man.

Love the fanboy talk podcast, hope we get another episode soon

Okay thank you for that whole canon side-tangent. I really hate this expectation that things need to follow a strict strict timeline to be "good". Sometimes, artistic freedom is more important than consistency.

My theory on Venom is that: Venom mentioned in Venom 2(post credits)that he is infinite and there are a lot of venoms in different universes so maybe one venom saw tobey and he knows him from that.

in the lab scene, when tom and tobey looked at each other, i think there’s a connection there. i thought it was foreshadowing the tobey being uncle ben, but they didn’t even do anything with mcu uncle ben and i was kinda disappointed

My only complaint about this movie is that i wish Topher Grace come back as Venom, beacuse at least Venom being here in this movie would made more sense considering that Eddie in Spider-man 3 knows who Peter is.

Id like it if Tom Peter never knew Ben, and in the next films he finds out more about Ben. Then you get Peter seeing a video about Ben giving a speech and he says With great power also comes great responsibility. That be cool.

See I think in terms of Peter's continuity throughout the mcu, everything that happened did happen. However there's just no physical record or memory of Peter's involvement or of those moments at all. For example in the end of the film MJ still has the black Dalia necklace which suggests that Peter gave it to her and that those events of ffh still took place. However her recollection of obtaining the necklace itself is likely different or non existent. The ladder is especially plausible considering how much of our own lives we disregard and don't recall over time as well. In terms of what you guys mentioned I'm sure everyone remembers Spiderman and his place within the Avengers and those conflicts. Just not that it was Peter. Which is also supported by J. Jonah. Jamesons statement following the spell near the end of nwh. So for the show I'm guessing it'll be a representation of what would have actually happened leading up until civil war and in hindsight within universe; probably no one other than Peter recalls that.

Just imagine if the entire movie was on the bridge SPIDER-MAN No way of the bridge

1:37:44 They just did that to make a reference to the fact that he was "The Amazing Spider-Man"

(I don't remember if you guys mentioned this or not in the video, so, sorry if this is a pointless comment) They do allude to Uncle Ben's death in Civil War with the diet With Great Power line "When you have the powers that i do, and then the bad things happen, they happen because of you" opr whatever. So I don't know if they're gonna retcon that or not. Freshman Year is gonna be interesting for sure.

2:18:50 Regarding this, I don't think the spell erased anything from history, it just made people forget anything regarding Peter Parker. So everything that happened in the past movies still happened, but people only remember the Spider-Man half, not the Peter Parker half.

1:28:53 lol I rewatched this scene like 5 times

My thinking about venom knowing Spider-Man is the venom “hive mind” mentioned in the carnage end credit scene.

The next trilogy lets us get to know Michelle since Peter has to build up his relationship again with her It gives us a chance to get to know her , also we get to see Peter meet new people probably he becomes friends with a new character like Gwen or something like that

I'm pretty sure the spell just pulled people from the time that aligns with the present day MCU, which is why Tobey, Andrew, Lizard, and Sandman are all older, but Norman, Otto, and Electro died long before then so it pulls them from before their deaths

The doc ock arms, both are done with neuro link ALSO the arms were made by Oscorp who specialized in nanotech so it makes sense