SPINNING REELS CAST SHORTER... BUTT TRIGGERING EVIDENCE!!!

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Ай бұрын

Because some internet message board experts said so, I always assumed that spinning reels casted farther than baitcasters... were they right?
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@THEREELTEST Ай бұрын

Go watch Salt Strongs video here kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nLJxldSXvcnKXX0.html My BFS vs Spinning cast battle is here kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qsCFgLOm3bbcYJ8.html

@stankbonkman Ай бұрын

I don’t think you understand how broad the statement you made is and that you can’t simply prove or disprove either case with a single video. Also check your ego mr i have a youtube channel. You have a small incredibly insignificant youtube channel where you give your OPINION on fishing reels. You may share facts but simply cuz you said it and tested it doesn’t make it true. Proper science is based on peer review and ample evidence. Ffs educate yourself

@luckylor01264 Ай бұрын

Hey Reel Test, I know this is completely unrelated to this video, but have you ever tried out any of the megabass levante rods? I know the shimano zodias are also around the $200 price range and have seen your video on them but wanted to know your thoughts on megabass.

@THEREELTEST Ай бұрын

@@stankbonkman you mad bro? My OPINIONS are backed up with VIDEO EVIDENCE little boy.

@THEREELTEST Ай бұрын

@@luckylor01264 I have a 1st generation Hyuga from Megabass and its a good rod for what Ive paid for it. Thats the only rod I have from them and to be honest, for all the hype around Megabass, I dont find their rods to be appealing considering some of their competition. I was going to try a Levante back when they were only $200 but they raised the price.

@stankbonkman 22 күн бұрын

@@THEREELTEST1 i’m bigger than you. 2 you made a bias video. Try using actual science that is peer reviewed. I use both baitcasters and spinning but for you (a bozo) to assume that just because you found things supporting your opinion you share and claim them to be factual. Look up the term confirmation bias before you throw some more insults like a grade schooler

@danielmeireles1 Ай бұрын

Sometimes, with small lures, a spinning reel is cheaper than a bfs baitcast, and works better

@THEREELTEST Ай бұрын

I could have spent the money on a more expensive spinning reel but that wouldnt have changed the outcome. Any shimano spinner up to 200 is going to have the same technology.

@1randomk Ай бұрын

lol...go cast in the wind in coastal seas with your BFS reels. Spinning reels cheaper, way more reliable and easier in bad conditions.

@THEREELTEST Ай бұрын

I was down in tampa bay a couple of months ago with my baitcasters and did just fine catching speckled trout and a lady fish 😎😎😎😎

@yankeelipperfishing 29 күн бұрын

Big Fan. love the channel, Butt can't we all just get along.🤣🤣🤣. Soooo funny.

@alex4given808 26 күн бұрын

I like the channel too , but a spinning reel can cast anything farther, cheaper.

@yankeelipperfishing 23 күн бұрын

@@alex4given808 not always bro. Reel Test is the authority on all things fishing didn't you know that? But wait that's not True. 🤣🤣🤣

@alex4given808 23 күн бұрын

@@yankeelipperfishing 🤣🤣

@richardconnors8694 23 күн бұрын

As far as spinning reels are concerned, one of the main reasons the don't cast further than baiter casters is due to how the line comes off the spool and flows through guides. Yes, longer spools, longer rods and casting technique all lend to longer casts but when you're comparing similar length rods with similar specs, guide placement, type of guide and the number of guides along the blank have a larger impact on distance than with casting rods. This is due to the fact that there's more friction and "line slap" against the blank when the line first comes off of a spinning reels. Some may disagree but there are plenty of video's out there demonstrating this.

@alex4given808 26 күн бұрын

I only use a bait caster for frogging, then spinning for everything else.

@xibfwmz Ай бұрын

I'm sure if you used a higher end spinning reel it will throw further, but still probably not as far as the bfs

@THEREELTEST Ай бұрын

perhaps if I used a Stella or Vanquish with their new line lay tech, but I wasnt going to spend $400-$600 on one of those just to run my test

@wanzhaf932 Ай бұрын

look into long cast spool, wide spool, and anything that end with "S" from shimano and daiwa...1000s...2000s...yes s mean shallow...but they often outcast a baitcaster....in ultralight game....

@wanzhaf932 Ай бұрын

presso lt...cardia fc...luvias lt...exist fc...vanquish...stradic 1000s....stella fk...vanford...and so many more...

@THEREELTEST Ай бұрын

ok, show me the video evidence

@saraieatsstirfry5537 Ай бұрын

Longer rod, longer cast of course. If you buy a baitcaster with minimal settings, a spinning reel might take the win. All my high end shimanos/daiwa baitcasters do cast farther than my stellas/stradics/vanfords. Love baitcasters more tho because there’s more technique in different situations and you can get lures in/out faster. The only thing I love about spinning reels is smoother drag and versatility. With baitcast reels, 1 setup can’t really do anything. Wind isn’t a problem for me as I’m an elite caster 😂. I live in Nevada and I use baitcasters 80% of the time from BFS all the way to big swimbait fishing. Ranging from trout>panfish>bass>striped bass.

@THEREELTEST Ай бұрын

well the point of the video was to expose the "spinning casts farther than baitcasting" fallacy.

@michaelellis854 Ай бұрын

Wondering why you used a cheap ass spinning reel against a top of the line baitcasters?

@THEREELTEST Ай бұрын

I also used a cheap ass bfs reel.

@michaelellis854 Ай бұрын

@@THEREELTEST that looked like a Shimano to me. Maybe my eyes are bad.

@THEREELTEST Ай бұрын

@@michaelellis854 so you didnt watch the video and made an ignorant comment

@sleeping14forest 22 сағат бұрын

from my experience is that with spinning reel is that pitching with light lure is easier than baitcaster because when fishing with bfs i dont need much distance but more of the pitching style thats why i dont do bfs baitcaster anymore even though i like bfs baitcaster alot

@davidrauschenbach6871 Ай бұрын

Think it just comes down to preference. Have and use both. When I’m river or bank fishing with a lot of overhangs I prefer spinning. Those tricky branches and thorn bushes!

@THEREELTEST Ай бұрын

I made the video because for the longest I read guys on internet forums saying that spinning reels outcast baitcasters, particularly with light baits

@finelinefishing Ай бұрын

Might I ask why we are getting into this debate again? This is just stupid. Spinning reels, when it comes to lighter and even heavier baits, will ALWAYS outcast bait casting reels sheerly because of how they function. No way on earth can a bait caster, BFS or not, cast a trout magnet further than a well rounded ultra spinning rod with the same line. I don't care how super tuned your bfs reel is. It's just not gonna happen. I will personally fish against this guy myself to prove this. What I see on this channel is "BFS is better than spinning in every way possible". That's just not it. Like literally half of the people on here are practically demonizing spinning reels in favor of going for something so niche. I love BFS don't get me wrong, and I think it's a wonderful addition to the fishing community. But to say that they are "better than" or "they cast further than" spinning reels is just nonsense. In the end, if we are talking casting midges or 1/100thoz jigs, spinning will win in distance AND accuracy every time. If we are talking standard trout minnows? Okay yeah let's talk. But even so, the bfs still loses in terms of distance all because of how casting physics work. Proof? In order for a bfs reel to cast a tiny bait further than a well spooled spinning reel, the lure would have to use less force to GET THE SPOOL SPINNING than it would to simply pull a loop of line off of the arbor of a spinning reel. That's just not happening. I can lightly breathe and move a coil of line off of a spinning reel. Can't do that with a bfs reel. So yeah, please stop making this argument. It's dumb and there is no reason for it.

@mnjcosby Ай бұрын

I'm not so sure about that, I don't give a shit either way but the resistance you feel when line is striping off a spinning reel vs a spool is just as high if not higher, with super low inertia spools we now have it comes down to how you have the tension knob set, and with it set right there is zero perceivable resistance on free spool vs a spinning rod that most definitely has resistance when pulling limp braid straight off. Also for a spinning reel to function at its peek you have to use braid and that's gonna cost you bites, I don't care how many fish you've caught with braid you would've caught more with invisible fluorocarbon but I digress, they both have their uses but to outright claim a spinning reel cast farther based on your understanding of the resistance felt through line when pulling off the spool is deeply flawed.

@finelinefishing Ай бұрын

@@mnjcosby To say that you lose more bites with braid is flawed in itself. I've done back to back competitions on the same body of water with both and braid to fluorocarbon and straight fluoro and braid just wins every time. And even with the lowest inertia spools, you still get more resistance than you do with a spinning reel, which equates to less distance.

@mnjcosby Ай бұрын

@@finelinefishing that's senseless to say your single "competition" equates to any usable data, firstly you said back to back, do you know how many environmental variables can change within an hour that can effect bites, fish can perceive much more than people think, you ever heard of night fishing with nothing but large truck worm, if an fish can find that bait in pitch black from yards away it's also well aware of that strange colored string in the water 10 ft away from your bait, there are far too many variables to account for to get a true answer without a completely control environment, I'm just not leaving that up to chance simply because braid is more convenient or economical when fish are clearly sensitive to threats in the water

@finelinefishing Ай бұрын

@@mnjcosby Alright so you assuming that fish are so sensitive to threats in the water that that braid lowers your count at the end of the day is crazy. Bro I freaking fish some of the clearest and most pressured lakes in the nation and do so with braid to fluorocarbon and I will outfish my buddy running the exact same bait yet he is using fluorocarbon only. Yes the changes in the environment throughout the day can make the competition one sided SOMETIMES. But I usually fish only during a certain portion of the day when the conditions stay consistent throughout to make my data as fair as possible. You also loose massive distance with straight fluorocarbon, so you defeat your own argument by using that as an example lmao.

@mnjcosby Ай бұрын

@@finelinefishing first, you only need braid for distance if your casting skill is lacking. Second, your friend may just not be as good a fisherman as you, which is highly likely seeing as the only variable is him and the line, I'd assume him.

@yep.fishing Ай бұрын

My main gripe was that you used the 500 sienna. The question was really is would a 2500 sienna best the 500 sienna and if so, that negates the results you got.

@THEREELTEST Ай бұрын

did you even watch the other videos?

@yep.fishing 28 күн бұрын

@@THEREELTEST the salt strong or your one?

@fate404 Ай бұрын

this is off topic but if you ever get your hands on a ZPI Alcane casting reel please can you do a review.

@THEREELTEST Ай бұрын

I did not, they used the same frame as the original Fishband Clamber but Im sure with better tolerances. Also I believe ZPI have gone back to just making reel parts now.

@denniswillems6083 Ай бұрын

Love baitcasters , the distance is comparable but for ease of use for a beginner i would say spinning reel but eventually its the same 😅

@THEREELTEST Ай бұрын

yes there are definitely levels to being able to get the most out of a baitcaster

@fachrizallea 10 күн бұрын

sienna vs ceymar c10 please choose one for me sir ! 🙂🙏🏻

@THEREELTEST 9 күн бұрын

shimano over everything of course lol

@CrazyCranker 28 күн бұрын

I think there's one missing factor that's not mentioned that is extremely important: "Casting Technique" I know an old shipmate here in Japanland that only uses spinning gear. I'm amazed how far he can cast. He can beat my casting with a baitcaster ever time! The weird part is, he uses the cheapest spinning tackle from the Japanese store. Now as much as love bait casters, I know my casting technique is probably fair at best so, there's that. I feel it's all in your "Casting Technique" You either have it, or you don't. :)

@Dojaycat Ай бұрын

I think the part that makes people think spinning reels can cast farther is optimal bait, cast settings. If you don’t have perfectly optimal settings, then yeah obviously a spinning reel is going to cast further

@THEREELTEST Ай бұрын

I agree, most people that use baitcasters dont know how to maximize their reels casting performance. They set their reels up not to backlash instead of maximum casting.

@imperialwhovian3461 Ай бұрын

The biggest thimg is baitcasters are harder to use and more prone to line issues, i know theres the mythical wind knot fpr apinning reels but ive fished spinning reels my entire life and have never had that happen and dont know anyone that has had that happen so i really dont know how its possible. As far as casting distance that also depends on how you are fishing, i kayak fish so i can get in close and quiet so distance doesnt really matter to me much as id rather not have to tune my reel to each lure i use and have the chance of birds nests

@1jimif Ай бұрын

I like baitcasters, but there's a reason most of the Bassmaster Elite guys use spinning reels for lighter line FFS techniques (strolling etc.). I know that the spinning reel has a superior drag, especially high end reels like Shimano Stella, and Diawa Exist. I love BFS and think Baitcasters are more accurate. That said I want a Diawa Exist someday 😂! I also don't have to tell you the rod has a lot to do with both spinning and baitcasting. When using a spinning reel it is also important to have the spool full or you will loose a lot of casting distance. Thanks for all the reel test videos, I love your channel....FishOn....jimi

@THEREELTEST Ай бұрын

I think reason they use spinning for lighter lures is because they were taught to use them. The entire American bass fishing culture is to do what everyone else is doing.

@1jimif Ай бұрын

@@THEREELTEST I think it is more to do with a BFS reel doesn't hold enough line to fish in 30'+ deep water sometimes in rough weather, and then fight a fish on 4-6lb line with an inferior drag. They can't afford to miss a fish that could cost them a tournament. Not everyone is taught what to do or does things because everyone else is doing them. God Bless and...FishOn 🙌 🙏 ❤️

@imperialwhovian3461 Ай бұрын

@@THEREELTESTno backlash though with spinning reels, and yes I've heard of wind knots and such but I've never had that happen and don't know of anyone who's had that happen but I know plenty of people who've backlashed their baitcasters so really even if it's better is it really worth the risk of a backlash?

@zihotki Ай бұрын

Your casting technique will be the limitation. The way you load the rod and do the cast is very differrent between casting and spinning reel. Plus they need a bit different rod construction for optimal performance. When you start using them simultaneously and try in different conditions then you'll find that in some cases spinning will be better, in others casting is more suitable. Or sometimes there is no difference.

@vernervanschalkwyk2280 Ай бұрын

I also fish baitcasters 95% of the time but i mist concede that spinning reels has their place and relevance.

@hunterbull7804 Ай бұрын

I don’t think casting distance matters all that much because you can’t even get a good hook set in on a super far cast. I definitely prefer casting reels because of the ergonomics but sometimes a spinning reel is nice to have when you want the drag

@RH-nc8uu Ай бұрын

Stiffer rod and braid make for good hook set at as far a distance as you can be presuming line kept taught and not given slack

@THEREELTEST Ай бұрын

its not even about hooksetting, its about putting a bait in front of as many fish as you can. Most fish will follow lures for awhile before striking.

@leepao6302 Ай бұрын

Yes, baitcast reel does cast further, but can you explain why most fisherman they used spinning reel for surf fishing and not baitcasting reel than? just saying 🤣😂

@finelinefishing Ай бұрын

@@leepao6302 It's funny because I literally just made that comparison lol

@leepao6302 Ай бұрын

@@finelinefishing and....?

@THEREELTEST Ай бұрын

windy conditions more than likely. One bad backlash will end your fishing day on a baitcaster

@rustyshacklfur2637 4 күн бұрын

It's because bait casters especially low profile reels are very susceptible to sand and saltwater. A plugging reel will get dunked, dropped and handled with sand covers hands. No matter what you do you can't seal a low pro, but you can seal a spinner. Now conventionals hold up better than low pros and see more use in the surf, there are exceptions, but the majority of them are slinging heavy lead and clams or a bunker head. The whole which one casts further, bc vs spin is entirely dependent on the skill of the user, especially in the case of the low pro. When you use a budget reel with marginal line lay and braid that's too heavy, it's not going to send baits far with ideal line, rod and lure much less heavy braid. It would be like using a long cast spinner vs a bfs reel loaded with 15lb mono. For practical purposes distance isn't that important so long as the outfit can cover water. I can count on 1 hand in the past 5 years of fw and surf fishing the times that another 20ft of casting distance MIGHT have changed the outcome of a tough day. For me a spinning reel has the advantage of a smoother drag and the ability to let a bait fall without resistance.

@mdraf76 Ай бұрын

I love my spinning,i like my baitcaster

@user-qrjx6639lmz Ай бұрын

I wonder why the world pendulum cast tournament still using a conventional reel based on a baitcaster yet still makes the winning longest cast. If a debate is just about lures or its the dead weight that their using, it just seems to be unfair to bring them up again in this decade for judging which is the longest @ farthest, skills should be in to it as well. I've been hearing this argument for such a long time ago especially between baitcasters or spinning reels enthusiast but not in the fly fishing world, seems to be until today. As for tipical anglers, either baitcasters or spinning reels, its just a method in helping us to get our lures to get into target. But i cant deny that the conventional @ baitcaster, still got more advantages in distance IF the persons ARE EXPERTS and SKILLED. For me i still use every kind of reels that have been created by and enjoy them while i can. No matter what.who cares supposely.

@THEREELTEST Ай бұрын

Yes the average baitcaster user will probably cast farther with a spinning reel because they cant get the most from their baitcasters.

@darkiee69 Ай бұрын

The tranx has a 13lb drag, the cronarch has an 11lb drag vs the daiwa bg2500mq's 22lb drag. And the Chronarch is $90 more.

@THEREELTEST Ай бұрын

wow you know how to use google

@darkiee69 Ай бұрын

@@THEREELTEST Well, you didn't talk about it, so I had to find out for myself.

@krispayne729 Ай бұрын

Both batecasters in spinning real have their place. I have both. I have a shamano Nexus. Combo that's operand up entry level wheels. And I got a chimal SLX big caster. Combo, that's low wind of the higher end. They have their places. Open real fishing reels are easier to use. Big casters are better for casting and trolling with. You don't care some right. The lion can bounce up like I said. They both have their good and bad points

@THEREELTEST Ай бұрын

I wasnt comparing good and bad points, I was exposing the casting distance myth of spinning reels

@elliotbryant9733 Ай бұрын

I have the 150 coastal and it can cast a mile!

@THEREELTEST Ай бұрын

A Chronarch G might cast 2 miles lol

@rmorris75252 27 күн бұрын

Having used the chronarch g tranx 150 coastal 150 and 80, in real world applications they all perform about the same when fishing on the coast where strong winds are the normal. But I gotta say until Shimano comes out with a 70 size tranx ( and even then, idk) the coastal 80 has been my favorite out of the 4 for distance and ease of use in windy conditions. Far as holding up in the salt just don’t be lazy. take care of your stuff, and it will take care of you.

@SpikeJonesTheCr0oked 26 күн бұрын

Spincels in the comments are big mad 😂😂

@Василий-РБ Ай бұрын

Где где реальные тесты(

@THEREELTEST Ай бұрын

all over my youtube channel lol

@AlluzHH Ай бұрын

The sienna is literally the worst possible spinning reel >D

@THEREELTEST Ай бұрын

send me a new Stella 2500 and Ill re do the cast battle. My email is reeltested@gmail.com

@Gangly_arms Ай бұрын

your evidence: "trust bro"😂 yeah nah, that's is hardly scientific at all. how do we know all your casting powers are consistent in all reels? judging by how expensive your reels are and what you have on hand before buying a spinning reel for the test, you're obviously using bait casters as your primary reel. How do we know you're not biased or just not as good with spinning reels? Unless you can produce a test with consistent casting power and ideal wind conditions, you're "test" is not convincing any scientists anytime soon.

@THEREELTEST Ай бұрын

2 other videos proves you wrong lol. You fanboys hate video evidence dont you?🤣

@rmorris75252 27 күн бұрын

I partially agree with him I mean if you primarily use a baitcaster you’re gonna be better with it naturally. There’s most definitely different casting techniques for spinning vs bait casting. I lean more towards baitcasters better control more accuracy longer distance and I grew up using nothing but spinning reels. That being said I got some fiends that’s are just as accurate and cast just as far with a spinning rod. It’s all personal preference. The whole idea of which one cast further is anecdotal because of one single element, humans. We’re all human and we can get 100 people to cast the same outfits with the same lures line rod etc. and I’d be willing to bet your gonna get a lot of mixed results.

@amzlino Ай бұрын

Arrogance

@THEREELTEST Ай бұрын

you have too much ignorant pride

@amzlino Ай бұрын

@@THEREELTEST The way of a fool is right in his own eyes, but a wise man listens to advice. 12:15

@THEREELTEST Ай бұрын

@@amzlino Im glad you googled that scripture verse so you can start applying it to your life

@amzlino 29 күн бұрын

@@THEREELTEST The way of a fool is right in his own eyes, but a wise man listens to advice

@zajdabneeg Ай бұрын

In my experience spinning vs. casting on heavy lures it’s 50/50. Depending on setup but for ultralight it varies a lot more. Sometimes bfs win sometimes spinning wins.

@THEREELTEST Ай бұрын

I think im going to get some new rods and do a side by side casting comparison on the water later this year